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GNU/Linux-based OSes thread Anonymous 03/12/2020 (Thu) 18:37:41 No.1994

If you would like to try out GNU/Linux because of https://itvision.altervista.org/why-windows-10-sucks.html , you can do one of the following: 0) Install a GNU/Linux distribution of your choice in a Virtual Machine (preferably using KVM or Oracle VirtualBox for newfriends). 1) Use a live image and to boot directly into the GNU/Linux distribution without installing anything (keep in mind that the performance of live distros might be very different than from distro that was booted from your HDD, as most distros are loaded in RAM and don't include the proprietary drivers for NVIDIA GPUs or up-to-date Mesa libraries in their isos). 2) Dual boot the GNU/Linux distribution of your choice along with Windows (make sure to install Windows first, as it can "replace" GRUB or other UNIX bootloaders, and troubleshooting of Windows replacing your bootloader of choice might be painful for people that just started learning about the Linux kernel) 3) Go balls deep and replace everything with GNU/Linux (you really shouldn't do this, if you don't know what you're putting yourself into, see: https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html ). Resources: Use your web browser and search engine of choice. Good comparison between them is hosted here: https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/browsers.html https://digdeeper.neocities.org/ghost/search.html If not sure which browser to choose, just use the Tor Browser Bundle: https://www.torproject.org/ or paste these commands to your terminal emulator of choice (please make sure to first learn what they're exactly doing): $ sudo apt install torbrowser-launcher (Debian, Ubuntu, Linux Mint or just simply apt-based distros) $ sudo pacman -S base-devel git go && git clone https://aur.archlinux.org/yay.git && cd yay && makepkg -si $ cd .. && rm -rf yay && yay -S tor-browser (pacman-based distros) $ xbps-install -S torbrowser-launcher (Void Linux) If you "bricked" yourself and can't launch Xorg/Wayland, then try installing an terminal-only browser like Lynx and using it troubleshoot your mistake. Type these commands to your terminal emulator to learn more about various commands: $ man command $ info command $ command -h/--help $ help builtin/keyword Don't know what to look for? $ apropos something Check the wikis (most troubleshoots work for all distros): https://wiki.archlinux.org https://wiki.gentoo.org 8chan /tech/'s wiki on GNU/Linux: https://wiki.cloveros.ga/Main_Page 4chan /g/'s wiki on GNU/Linux: https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Category:GNU/Linux Watch videos on JewTube: https://github.com/omarroth/invidious/wiki/Invidious-Instances >What distro should I choose? 1. Ubuntu, or it's flavors like Xubuntu, Kubuntu or even forks like Linux Mint (only LTS or LMDE) and KDE Neon (only LTS) - Focal Fossa 20.04 is the beta of the next LTS (long term support) release of Ubuntu and is scheduled for official release on April 23 2020 - Eoan Ermine 19.10 is the semi-rolling release of Ubuntu (still containing mostly stable and out-of-date packages) - Bionic Beaver 18.04 is the current LTS release of Ubuntu and thus is the most supported by corporations like Canonical (corporation behind Ubuntu) and it's partners, Valve, GOG.com and hardware manufactures in general. It just works™ 2. Debian GNU/Linux - Stable (“buster”) It's the stable/LTS and the "true" release of Debian. Contains a lot of outdated, but stable packages and is the easiest to install release of Debian. - Testing (“bullseye”) Is the testing release of Debian, which still contains a few outdated packages to be more stable. It's packages later go to the stable channel. - Unstable (“sid”) Is the rolling release of Debian and with the help of Debian Experimental, can be nearly as rolling as Arch or even Gentoo. It's packages after enough testing (usually a week) later go to the testing channel. >How do I install Debian's experimental packages? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental If you want something that has insane support and one of the largest communities out there, or just simply something that gives users more choices than Ubuntu, then this is the distro for you. 3. Arch Linux Is a rolling distro with a semi-minimalistic approach to GNU/Linux, meaning you install it only from the console itself with pre-compiled binary packages (packages that are ready to install). Can be easily broken, if the end-user doesn't know how to avoid troubleshooting it. It's primary audience are users that want bigger control of their system. and people who want to stay on the most-up-to-date versions of their favorite programs. Good for learning how GNU/Linux works. 4. Manjaro Linux/EndeavourOS Are forks of Arch Linux with the Calameres installer. Manjaro has it's own repositories, with package release channel similar to Debian's, while EndeavourOS tries to stay as close to Arch as it is possible. Decent, if you're one of those people which never read manuals. 5. Gentoo GNU/Linux Is a distro that is very similar to Arch, but is much more stable and up-to-date thanks to you getting in control of configuring and compiling everything from the source code. Is also much harder/longer to setup than Arch's installation process, but compiling everything from it's source can result in overall better performance of programs that you use daily. Nothing can beat it when it comes to avoiding systemd. Perfect for learning how your UNIX systems actually work. 6. Linux From Scratch (LFS), Guix or NixOS if somehow Gentoo didn't made you comfy with it, then with these distros you possibly can't get comfier except if you make the switch to BSD-based systems. Even more info here: https://wiki.cloveros.ga/Babbies_first_Linux https://distrowatch.com/ https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux If you don't care about having a modern desktop and want to avoid systemd, make sure to give the distros listed by this website a try: https://nosystemd.org/ If you prefer 100% libre, free as in speech distros: https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.en.html >What are some cool programs? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications https://directory.fsf.org/wiki/Main_Page https://suckless.org/rocks/ https://github.com/fossasia/mew >What are some cool terminal commands? https://www.commandlinefu.com/commands/browse (doesn't work without JavaScript enabled) https://cheat.sh/ >Where can I learn the command line? https://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide https://www.grymoire.com/Unix https://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit >Where can I learn more about Free Software? https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html >How can I run Windows software? Install the drivers for your GPU: https://github.com/lutris/lutris/wiki/Installing-drivers Then install Wine (Wine Is Not an Emulator) and preferably the 'Staging' branch of it: https://wiki.winehq.org/Download Lastly read this: https://www.winehq.org/documentation Also, make sure to learn about winetricks, DXVK and Windows .dll files in general.

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Anonymous 03/12/2020 (Thu) 19:24:58 No.1995

I fucked my shit up dual boot windows with mint, couldnt go back to windows even though all the files were still there. Then after a day of using mint with only around 50 GB or so of storage I dont know why but mint got stuck at the password screen after I installed all the updates and run timeshift and it wouldn't let me in. I got pissed off and format everything to use mint. Feel pretty bad because I saved a lot of image and webm there.

Anonymous 03/12/2020 (Thu) 19:56:29 No.1996

>I fucked my shit up dual boot windows with mint, couldnt go back to windows even though all the files were still there. You could have booted into the live Mint iso to move the files from Windows partition to your /home partition. >Then after a day of using mint with only around 50 GB or so of storage I dont know why but mint got stuck at the password screen after I installed all the updates and run timeshift and it wouldn't let me in. You must have did something in order to get distro that is as stable as Mint to not be able to login in LightDM. I've personally never used Timeshift, because when something breaks I just format it to don't waste any time, so I can't help you with it. How did you partitioned the disk? Off the top of my head I can only assume that /boot partition somehow got overloaded too quickly, as 50 GB for / is practically 20 GB too much. >Feel pretty bad because I saved a lot of image and webm there. Next time use backups. They're very important in this day and age.

Anonymous 03/12/2020 (Thu) 20:05:32 No.1997

>>1995 Forgot to say, you should be using separate /boot partitions if you're using UEFI. In Mint you just need to click "Manual Partitioning" and create an FAT32 partition with 512 MB and use it as EFI System Partition, before creating a /root partition (30 GB is in my opinion the perfect size for it). You could also just check from the "Device for boot loader installation" section to /dev/sda2 (assuming you're using a HDD).

Anonymous 03/12/2020 (Thu) 20:21:34 No.1998

>>1994 >If you prefer 100% libre, free as in beer distros: Actually, the gnuj list is much more about free as in speech, not beer.

Anonymous 03/12/2020 (Thu) 21:04:33 No.2000

What is the recommended VM software for Linux hosts?

Anonymous 03/12/2020 (Thu) 21:41:09 No.2001

>>2000 QEMU/KVM alongside virt-manager or just QEMU/KVM, if you don't need GUI (Graphical User Interface). The KVM (Kernel-Based Virtual Machine) is much better than VirtualBox or VMware because it sits right on the kernel.

Anonymous 03/12/2020 (Thu) 22:47:15 No.2003

>>1995 You still can install Windows after installing GNU/Linux. https://www.linuxdeveloper.space/install-windows-after-linux/ >>1998 Fine. I'll rename the pasta to "free as in speech" and correct my poor grammar/punctuation, if this thread will ever reach bump limit that is it won't. ATTENTION: If you care about this board, then please, redirect faggots to this thread which derail threads with GNU/Linux questions on non-/tech/ related boards.

Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 07:54:34 No.2004

Do you need to select a specific keyboard for installing devuan on a laptop? It just gets stuck at the login screen after giving me a bunch of errors and I can't even ctrl alt del.

Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 08:15:36 No.2005

I'm using pulseaudio right now for some games and firefox. Is it worth my time to get rid of it? What are my options? Teach me how to into JACK.

Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 09:36:35 No.2006

>>2004 >Do you need to select a specific keyboard for installing devuan on a laptop? By "specific keyboard" do you mean it's model or layout or both? Answer to this question is probably not, but I'm not sure what would cause the issue for Devuan to not install properly with different types of keyboards. >It just gets stuck at the login screen after giving me a bunch of errors and I can't even ctrl alt del. Sounds like you got the same issue as >>1995 Is your Devuan install looping? I can recommend you trying this: 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+F1-12 to switch to the command line interface mode. 2) Try logging in as the user account which you've created during the install process. 3) Type this: $ sudo apt purge slim $ sudo apt update $ sudo apt install slim If this doesn't work, then I can only assume that you installed Devuan improperly. Try reading the official install manual or watch a video with it's installation process on YouTube. Keep in mind that you need an separate EFI partition if you booted the iso in UEFI mode, or if you're using a drive with a GPT partition table like >>1997 pointed out, and that you need to install GRUB to it. https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/start-here I also recommend choosing OpenRC instead of SysV as an init, as it has much better compatibility and I find it easier to use. >>2005 >I'm using pulseaudio right now for some games and firefox. If your games use it, then you want to keep it. You might as well check if your games will utilize just ALSA alone. To do that you have to either stop the current PA daemon or remove PulseAudio packages. After checking if your games indeed need PA for sound support you can just install it back. >Is it worth my time to get rid of it? Probably not, but PA has terrible defaults for people that care about audio quality (like audiophiles) and it's whole existence is in fact with the mind of bringing Windows/macOS-like sound servers to UNIX. It's also bloat for the most part, as people which don't use closed-sourced programs in GNU/Linux most likely won't ever need it. I find ALSA to be superior for the main reason that it by default automatically switches sample rates according to the files you play. PA uses the bit format and the sample rate that is set up in it's configuration files at all times, meaning it uses more of your CPU, and it can't be changed if the application you're using doesn't support switching to different sample rates, bit formats etc. There's only one advantage that I can think of that PA has over ALSA, and it is the fact that how easy it is to use it (except for configuring it's config files). Also keep in mind that PA needs to utilizes ALSA in order to work. >What are my options? Running programs through apulse: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#PulseAudio_compatibility You can compile it from the source yourself if you aren't on Arch: https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse You could also just configure PA to the way you'd like it to be: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#daemon.conf Here's how I configured it for the example: https://bin.snopyta.org/?2c3f9862e5cf22e5#9JeBSodgvsiVC3TrY5yvU8qatzC4rqcit3apD4GnBvHj >Teach me how to into JACK. You probably don't need to utilize JACK, if you aren't an audiophile or if you don't need low latency audio for stuff like digital audio workstation. But if you do, consider switching to the real time kernel or the Liquorix kernel. Here's some good documentation on them: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/JACK_Audio_Connection_Kit https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/JACK https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Realtime_kernel_patchset https://liquorix.net/

Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 11:17:18 No.2007

>>2005 >my audio works Don't mess with it. Audio is a shitshow if you want to read tutorials from 2009, aka last time anyone used gnu/linux for music, then go ahead and enjoy. In fact enjoy reading source code and 5 year old bug reports because there's no documentation anywhere.

Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 20:33:41 No.2009

>>2005 Like what >>2007 said. Audio on linux is a shitshow. I'm still using pure alsa but attempting to get anything like audio recording or per-application volume isn't possible without fucking around alot, and normally none of the shit works anyway cause all the tutorials are from a decade ago. It took me a long time to even figure out how to fucking switch the soundcards without fucking it over. Pro tip: if any tutorial tells you to edit .asoundrc consider it a lost cause. I haven't been able to get jack audio to work for a long time, cause for some reason my .asoundrc i used to use for alsa loopbacks just up and stopped working one day. If your audio already works, pulse is fine. i hate it but it's a necessary evil You may have better chances getting something like OSSv4 or sndio to work instead, problem with those is they don't have nearly as much drivers as alsa. best way to give a linux user PTSD is to talk about the soundsystem, i want to fucking die

Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 20:40:39 No.2010

>>2005 >>2009 For reference, what i mean by sndio https://wiki.voidlinux.org/Sndio I think it would be worth utilizing atleast to test it compared to pulse or jack.

Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 20:46:39 No.2011

>>2009 >best way to give a linux user PTSD is to talk about the soundsystem, i want to fucking die I couldn't agree more. It's even worse if you use a external DAC with an NVIDIA GPU. For some fucking ungodly reason the proprietary UNIX NVIDIA drivers add a sound card called "HDA NVidia" before my DAC, and I have to always switch it back to the DAC. Best part is that my monitor doesn't even have builtin speakers. This is literal clown world. I can't wait to switch to AMD Radeon's GPU.

Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 20:51:59 No.2012

>>2011 >t's even worse if you use a external DAC with an NVIDIA GPU. >For some fucking ungodly reason the proprietary UNIX NVIDIA drivers add a sound card called "HDA NVidia" before my DAC >and I have to always switch it back to the DAC Yeah that's the kind of shit i'm talking about, it's niggerlicious. >I can't wait to switch to AMD i have some bad news..... I have an amd card and it does the same shit

Anonymous 03/13/2020 (Fri) 21:03:19 No.2013

>>2012 >spoiler There is no hope, is there?

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 03:40:42 No.2014

>>2009 >per-application volume isn't possible without fucking around alot i don't know, seems to me pavucontrol makes it pretty straightforward tbh.

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 04:29:28 No.2015

>>2005 linux has shit audio >>2006 I didn't fuck my boot sector, it's just for some reason my password for the home partition doesn't want to work unless I'm mounting it from the live usb and the login screen freezes before I can do anything like I'm spawning a couple million objects in gmod. Is encryption literally broken and should I only be using autologin because all the guides online don't say anything beyond click next. Hell the installer only iso even throws up a looping non free firmware warning with literally nothing online on installing it manually. please tell the local cake kike to fix this broken looping captcha

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 04:29:55 No.2016

>>2014 Great, now try doing that without pulse like how my post originally implied.

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 04:35:23 No.2017

>>2016 exactly which audio server do you think this gtk app is communicating with anon?

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 10:58:32 No.2018

>>2003 This picture arouses me a lot.

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 11:08:52 No.2019

>>2009 How do you handle multiple devices? I have three including the hdmi output on my graphics card. The on-board audio on my motherboard (intel) doesn't seem to be picked up right now but my soundcard works. I'll need to have them all working soon. Is it easy to mirror the audio output to all of the devices? Semi-related question: how easy is it to get multiple graphics cards working together like Windows? For example, if I want to drive 2 monitors from a Nvidia card and a third off the on-board intel GPU? In windows this is handled seamlessly and you can just extend the desktop to the monitor on the second card without issue. I've looked around the Arch wiki and I'm not seeing much on this subject. I realize I have an odd configuration but I have reasons for wanting to do it.

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 11:33:09 No.2020

>>2018 Welcome to the wonders of bukakke.

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 11:34:49 No.2021

>>2018 Welcome to the wonders of bukakke.

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 12:15:29 No.2022

>>2015 >I didn't fuck my boot sector, it's just for some reason my password for the home partition doesn't want to work unless I'm mounting it from the live usb and the login screen freezes before I can do anything like I'm spawning a couple million objects in gmod. I honestly wish I could help you, but when I tried to install it on my laptop with full disk encryption everything worked perfectly. There must be a reason for this to keep happening. Maybe you should spare a bit of your free time on contacting with the Devuan community about it. They have a forum that doesn't use Google reCaptcha and an Freenode IRC. There's also an option to report bugs like yours. >Is encryption literally broken and should I only be using autologin because all the guides online don't say anything beyond click next. Encryption isn't broken, but it can be 'really troublesome for some setups like dual booting Wangblows. Have you tried these guides?: https://devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/full-disk-encryption.html https://www.circuidipity.com/full-disk-encryption-ubuntu/ Both should work the same, even if the latter one is a guide for Ubuntu. >Hell the installer only iso even throws up a looping non free firmware warning with literally nothing online on installing it manually. Devuan sadly doesn't have unofficial non-free isos like Debian does. >spoiler Captcha works perfectly fine for me, but that might be because I use the one without cookies on TBB. >>2018 What exactly makes you aroused when you look at it? You might even find the original picture if you type these tags on Danbooru: neptune_(neptune_series) eggplant >>2019 >How do you handle multiple devices? DACs / sound cards: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Set_the_default_sound_card https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Hot-plugging_a_USB_sound_card https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#See_also https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio#Script_for_switching_analog_outputs yes, unironically GPUs: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Hybrid_graphics https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hybrid_graphics https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA/Tips_and_tricks#Enabling_SLI https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Nvidia-xrun >Is it easy to mirror the audio output to all of the devices? Yes, very easy. You can do it through a GUI program called paprefs: https://freedesktop.org/software/pulseaudio/paprefs/ >Semi-related question: how easy is it to get multiple graphics cards working together like Windows? Depends. PRIME is much easier to set up (due to the fact that it's open-sourced) and is overall better than NVIDIA Optimus or Bumblebee, which both are a total shit show. Bumblebee is at least FOSS, but who cares about that when NVIDIA's drivers are proprietary. In conclusion: it is definitely harder to set up multiple graphics cards on GNU/Linux than on Windows. >For example, if I want to drive 2 monitors from a Nvidia card and a third off the on-board intel GPU? I have no actual idea. This is the first time I've heard about a setup like yours.

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 15:20:25 No.2023

>>2022 >but it can be 'really troublesome for some setups like dual booting Wangblows Oh yeah forgot to mention that part. Though an encrypted home drive shouldn't cause any problem for just logging in afaik. For anybody who wants to try that first guide is complete rubbish that wont even cover the firmware problems beyond an obtuse If you don't want them use expert mode. >spoiler It's clearly the eggplants and anon is just expressing his true self.

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 19:14:42 No.2027

>>2019 >How do you handle multiple devices? I had told someone before in the QTDDTOT but apparently that was spoonfeeding. Can't let them newfags into our safespace ammirite fellow anonymous ;^)

Anonymous 03/14/2020 (Sat) 19:21:02 No.2028

>>2017 pavucontrol (PulseAudio Volume Control) https://gavv.github.io/articles/pulseaudio-under-the-hood/ It's literally PulseAudio, are you fucking illiterate? Are you somehow implying that the PulseAudio's VOLUME CONTROL is somehow not communicating with PulseAudio....

Anonymous 03/15/2020 (Sun) 00:53:10 No.2039

>Got given 3 mini computers recently in exchange for helping someone move house >His uncle gave him a bunch of computers from his job, he just horded them and never used them >1 thick book sized with an i7 w 8G of ram, 2 hand sized each with an i5 & 4G of ram >Decided to finally go for a Linux option alongside my main gaming pc >Attempted to go with debian >BIOS wouldn't boot it or recognise it existed >Not sure what wrong >Decided to go with Ubuntu instead as I heard it's casul friendly >It just works >After a few false starts, now running a vanilla minecraft server off it. Slow progress, but it's a beginning. I've got a few plans for it, mostly involving potentially sticking OBS on it and using it as an alternate streaming PC to minimise strain on my main PC, a little coding that i'll be learning from my new job or some side afk grinding in runescape or even running a server for other games, but what to do with the smaller ones?

Anonymous 03/15/2020 (Sun) 01:08:37 No.2040

>>2039 >but what to do with the smaller ones? Either sell them or use them to self-host stuff like your very own e-mail, instances of programs you use (like Invidious or searx), imageboard, git repo, IRC or XMPP servers or even a seedbox. They can be also used for backups of your data or simply as a server for storage (preferably set up on DragonFly BSD's HAMMER2 file system) to use with FTP (for stuff like isos for the example). It really depends on what technology you're currently using to utilize them to their full potential and if you want to use them just for your own needs.

Anonymous 03/15/2020 (Sun) 01:41:44 No.2042

>>2039 >BIOS wouldn't boot it or recognize it existed Depending on what Bios it might be trying to boot uefi on a legacyboot system, or vise versa.. It happens. Weirdly i recently had to deal with a system that bios kept trying to run with raid.. so no matter how i partitioned the one drive it would eventually stop working. >what to do with the smaller ones Cluster. just because clusters are cool.

Anonymous 03/15/2020 (Sun) 03:13:45 No.2043

>>2039 >tiny PCs Turn them into HTPCs or emulation consoles. Guaranteed that's what they're actually intended for, right down to HDMI out. LibreElec is breddy gud, and all of the HTPC/Emu distros are meant to be run live off a USB so you can try to see if they "just werk" or not. Download the "generic x86" versions and put them onto a USB stick. If you're stuck with wangblows, use Rufus, otherwise learn2dd newfag. (ubuntu has gui usb iso/img writers) https://libreelec.tv/ http://www.lakka.tv/ https://batocera.org/ https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/awesome-linux-media-center-distros-htpc/ WARNING: The communities are fucking CANCER, and so are most of the "devs." I put "devs" in quotes because these stupid motherfuckers are really just forking some god-knows-what OS with retropie/emulationstation and kodi. Take one of the little ones, run the HTPC/EMU OS and have fun with watching or playing vidya etc, then take the other and do a server install of ubuntu (because you'll get your hand held just by googling) and then manually install retropie from the git repo or do the same for kodi. Kodi and Retropie are also slowly melding a bit, Retropie can launch Kodi and Kodi can launch emulationstation, so it's up to you what you want for a front-end. You could probably whip up a non-shit looking boot script to choose what you want at startup in a weekend if you git gud. If you're lucky your boxes will support 4k, although I have no idea if anyone even makes a non "smart" 4k tv that won't spy on you.

Anonymous 03/15/2020 (Sun) 03:15:03 No.2044

>>2042 Over the years I've found a lot of motherboards where the BIOS very slowly gets fucked and becomes a buggy piece of shit. Do a checksum, imo.

Anonymous 03/15/2020 (Sun) 06:19:38 No.2051

Is using extended partitions bad for dual booting?

Anonymous 03/15/2020 (Sun) 15:27:11 No.2065

>>2051 Use grub and stop giving a shit about partitioning.

Anonymous 03/15/2020 (Sun) 15:43:33 No.2068

>>2065 grub is ass and doesn't wanna work once I install KDE. fuck grub.

Anonymous 03/16/2020 (Mon) 05:25:10 No.2078

So can anyone here explain this? cause it's beyond me how it's possible. I installed manjaro linux on one of my relative's PC, it had 3 partitions 1 for home and for root, last one didn't have a mountpoint was done purely for space to their request cause it was a 3TB drive Well, their linux stopped working for some reason, but because i'm lazy i just gave them a different drive with working linux. Funny thing is, somehow the 3rd partition on the drive was missing data, like images n shiet. While some was fine, with all the original directories intack.... How the fuck is this possible? It was only the 3rd partition that got shit on too. everything else was fine...

Anonymous 03/16/2020 (Mon) 06:45:33 No.2079

>>2078 What file system? My guess is power outage during a write.

Anonymous 03/16/2020 (Mon) 07:08:24 No.2080

>>2078 >How the fuck is this possible? file writes are like state-machines with transitions, failures can easily happen. on top of that, os can be vulnerable to accidental or malicious filesystem corruption. you aren't providing enough information for us to make anything more than a vague guess anon. protip: lrn3putering B4 doing shit like this for family again

Anonymous 03/16/2020 (Mon) 20:35:48 No.2082

>>2068 >grub doesn't work with KDE u wot. That doesn't even make fucking sense. GRUB IS A GODDAMN BOOTLOADER, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH A GODDAMN DOWNSTREAM DE. IF IT'S PASSING BAD KERNEL PARAMETERS THAT BREAKS YOUR SHIT THEN IT'S YOUR FUCKING FAULT, NEWFAG. >>2078 Probably a power outage like >>2079 said or the drive is failing. https://www.linuxtechi.com/check-hard-drive-for-bad-sector-linux/ use hdparm or badblocks, do some read/write tests or something. Could be a southbridge issue too if there's something fucking up on the motherboard, but that's rare. It's almost always the shit HDD. Hard drives are a fucking shit and unreliable. For retard computers, get a cheap SSD for the OS and home partition, then have the "muh moovies" drive automount on boot and tell the tards to put their shit there. Once the drive shits the bed, throw it in a freezer overnight, get amazon 1-day delivery for a new drive and dd that shit to the new one. >putting an OS on a multi-tb drive fucktarded, imo. >>2080 Always go for the simplest solution imo, and bad hard drives is #1 on that list.

Anonymous 03/16/2020 (Mon) 21:09:57 No.2084

>>2082 good advice here.

Anonymous 03/16/2020 (Mon) 21:19:48 No.2085

>>2082 > https://www.linuxtechi.com/check-hard-drive-for-bad-sector-linux/ telling a newb to use badblocks is a bad idea imo. >"Important note: If the output of badblocks is going to be fed to the e2fsck or mke2fs programs, it is important that the block size is properly specified, since the block numbers which are generated are very dependent on the block size in use by the filesystem. For this reason, it is strongly recommended that users not run badblocks directly, but rather use the -c option of the e2fsck and mke2fs programs."

Anonymous 03/16/2020 (Mon) 23:40:51 No.2088

>>2079 it was ext4, it wasn't a power outage. I know the real issue. This relative is kinda a retard so given the information i was being told it "just stopped working" and a bunch of other unhelpful shit. I later found out that the idiot tried to fucking run it through windows. which means he used a shitty ext4 driver on windows which fucked the entire partition. I already was taking a hands off approach to fixing their shit, it annoys me that fucktards who do niggerlicious shit to their computers are in the end just going to blame the guy who initially set it up in a clean state for all their problems. >>2082 >>putting an OS on a multi-tb drive >fucktarded, imo. Not my decision, they bought the drive i just did the install. But for the record. The computer itself was one of those niggerlicious minimalist computers, the shit designed to sit ontop of your desk in a small space. It could only hold a single drive.. >>2080 >implying i'm to blame for this shit >be gentoo autist >only use minimal window managers and install shit like musl+libressl >get nigger tier relative who is tech illiterate who wants me to help him set up his new pc >do it anyway cause i'm not an asshole >tell him some basic shit, like how to find out his own problems (use a search engine, fourms/wiki etc) >he does something fucktarded >spend hours trying to figure what the absolute fuck did he do to make that shit happen >"lol it's all ur fault" Your a fucking niggerlicious. Doesn't matter cause unlike (you) who just copypasted the solution somebody posted before you without taking any imitative of your own, i actually figured out what the fuck happened. And (you) have the gall to claim yourself as competent, larping as tech literate isn't helpful it's just fucking dumb, like those retards who have started blaming things unrelated for all their issues. examle: the fucktard blaming grub for his KDE issues, or the other tards who keep blaming systemd for their own incompentency. simply because they heard from some fag on lwn that "systemd bad joo joos" >>>/8boomer/

Anonymous 03/16/2020 (Mon) 23:42:23 No.2089

>>2088 Fuck the nigger moderater who thought word filtering re ta rd was a good idea

Anonymous 03/16/2020 (Mon) 23:55:13 No.2090

>>2088 >"lol it's all ur fault" your original post certainly maked you seem like a tech illiterate. >which means he used a shitty ext4 driver on windows which fucked the entire partition. that's probably this issue, which you failed to mention initially. why ask us ZOMG HOW DID THIS HAPPEN?!11

Anonymous 03/17/2020 (Tue) 00:49:57 No.2091

>>2090 >why ask us ZOMG HOW DID THIS HAPPEN try working with an idiot who keeps insisting he dindu nuffin. come back when you have thoroughly basked in the headache.

Anonymous 03/17/2020 (Tue) 00:52:46 No.2092

>>2090 >your original post certainly maked you seem like a tech illiterate. >post used terms like mountpoint, partition,etc >illiterate nigga, you haven't seen illiterate if you thought that was illiterate.

Anonymous 03/17/2020 (Tue) 04:19:28 No.2093

>>2088 Do what thumbdrive manufacturers do, just format the tarditions as exFAT.

Anonymous 03/17/2020 (Tue) 07:56:27 No.2094

>>2091 >come back when you have thoroughly basked in the headache. We all have and learned a long time ago not to touch a computer of a friend/relative. You're the retard doing it for free and expecting not to be taken advantage of.

Anonymous 03/17/2020 (Tue) 20:18:19 No.2098

>>2094 >don't help anyone for free >entire thread is based around helping others for free >git issue trackers are based around solving problems for free >thousand of fourms exist souly to help others >opensource is based around the premise of constantly testing and fixing problems FOR FREE >the internet as a whole is based around the FREE flow of information You could've at least taken the route of don't help those who won't communicate, as that is the better route to that retardism. "don't help those who won't even help themselves" Is a better ideal.

Anonymous 03/19/2020 (Thu) 12:19:13 No.2134

So uh, the devuan live installer stopped working for some reason as in I finish the install and nothing shows up in grub. The base installer works fine however I have no Idea how to make it encrypt my /home partition like it does in the live one despite it having that function. Is there a certain brand of programmer socks I need to get for this shit to make sense?

Anonymous 03/19/2020 (Thu) 12:22:54 No.2136

>>2082 >it just werks

Anonymous 03/19/2020 (Thu) 19:44:12 No.2147

>>2134 >promoting faggotry >>>/4cuck/g

Anonymous 03/19/2020 (Thu) 22:03:10 No.2148

I just tried to install font-manager, and its dependency libfontconfig also updated. After the installation font rendering became badly broken. Going into Appearance options and turning anti-aliasing on and hinting to full does not fix the problem completely within the windows itself, despite being a small improvement, and moreover it doesn't change anything at all outside of the window itself; browsers, my torrent client, and everything else doesn't change between hinting off and full. Any suggestions on how to fix or troubleshoot this? It's already starting to give me a headache. I am using Debian 9 with XFCE.

Anonymous 03/19/2020 (Thu) 22:17:49 No.2149

Thread is comfy. Missed you /tech/, fucking 8kun's /g/ is almost as bad as 4chan's /g/. It's unbearable

Anonymous 03/20/2020 (Fri) 00:10:49 No.2150

>>2148 >libfontconfig My mistake, it was libgucharmap.

Anonymous 03/20/2020 (Fri) 02:07:04 No.2151

>>2149 Welcome back

Anonymous 03/20/2020 (Fri) 02:26:54 No.2152

>>2148 Whatever it was, I ended up just uninstalling libgucharmap and font-manager, deleted ~/.config/fontconfig and /etc/fonts, and restored /etc/fonts from a backup, which at least got me back to where I started.

Anonymous 03/20/2020 (Fri) 05:13:05 No.2153

>>2149 >8kun's /g/ is almost as bad as 4chan's /g/. It's unbearable Yes and no. 4chan is still FAR FAR worse somehow. >goto 8kun >thread with single word/sentence threads with really shitty topics (similar to what /g/ used to be like) >goto 4chan >threads with NO topic and NO posts, just an image/embed.

Anonymous 03/20/2020 (Fri) 05:23:28 No.2154

>>2003 >pic why would you do that to poor gentoo-chan ;_;

Anonymous 03/20/2020 (Fri) 12:08:46 No.2168

>>2147 >larping as little girls denial is a strong drug anon. >>2148 do you know how to make installing work again?

Anonymous 03/20/2020 (Fri) 12:59:30 No.2170

>>2168 b-but a-anon.. we're all little girls h-here.

Anonymous 03/21/2020 (Sat) 02:54:31 No.2175

>>2170 do a coin flip

Anonymous 03/21/2020 (Sat) 04:47:52 No.2177

>>2170 I'm guessing the answer is no. >saging a dead thread on a dead board

Anonymous 03/24/2020 (Tue) 20:04:56 No.2202

I've been trying to make mpv's vo=gpu and gpu-api=vulkan options work, but when I use them in my mpv.conf they just simply act as if they don't exist and display libplacebo error in mpv's console (`). I compiled ffmpeg and libplacebo before mpv with all the Vulkan-related options enabled, alongside NVIDIA's hardware decoders (nvdec, CUDA). Switching my self-compiled git version of mpv to my distros binary package of it didn't helped at all. I'm starting to think that there's something seriously wrong with the latest release of NVIDIA's proprietary drivers, as playing Kimetsu no Yaiba BD's worked through X11's and mesa's nouveau module. Did anyone here maybe experienced the same problem in the past? This shit is so annoying that it makes me want to switch back to Windows and deeply regret buying NVIDIA's GPU. >>2149 Okaeri. >>2177 Who are you quoting, fren?

Anonymous 03/24/2020 (Tue) 20:09:38 No.2203

>>2202 What does -v says?

Anonymous 04/02/2020 (Thu) 10:25:33 No.2352

>2202 >Who are you quoting, fren? Somebody who isn't getting any (you)s

Anonymous 04/06/2020 (Mon) 12:25:48 No.2436

>paste these commands, provided without explaination >here are five different commands to get info about some other command >let me shill the same garbage pigchan blog No wonder linux has a <5% presence in desktop world

Anonymous 04/06/2020 (Mon) 13:44:14 No.2438

>>2436 L O L FuCk OfF N00B we don't want people like you anyway!

Anonymous 04/06/2020 (Mon) 18:15:33 No.2442

>>2436 <paste these commands, provided without explaination Are you blind? This is literally underneath these commands: Type these commands to your terminal emulator to learn more about various commands: $ man command $ info command $ command -h/--help $ help builtin/keyword >here are five different commands to get info about some other command I know, spending some time reading sure is hard when you're born as a nigger. >let me shill the same garbage pigchan blog At least explain why it's garbage.

Anonymous 05/09/2020 (Sat) 08:32:51 No.2792

What are some very light weight distros for a shitty outdated laptop with 4gb ram? I'm using Linux Mint and it lags rather frequently. I'm trying some on virtual machine like lubuntu which runs pretty smooth given the limit that it is allowed on. Also, is there any way to reduce heat from a laptop without disassembling it out to clean? I'm thinking it's the dust clogged in there that raises the temperature. I have already tried blowing it with a straw but doesn't seem to work. Blasting fan in front of it really helps and elevate them with bottle caps reduces a bit too but those are just temporary solutions.

Anonymous 05/09/2020 (Sat) 09:36:47 No.2793

>>2792 The issue is primarily the DE (desktop environment) itself. Fundamentally all *NIXs tend to have generally similar performance, as far as the kernels are concerned. Generally. The issue with Cinnamon is that it's almost entirely Python, which as an interpreted language, is notoriously slow compared to say C or C++. Since you mentioned you're on a potato-box as am I atm heh, I'd recommend you choose a much leaner DE like XFCE. You will find things running much snappier for you Anon. As far as dust goes, you need a can of compressed air. I'd recommend you turn the machine off entirely and let it cool down first (b/c air exiting the nozzle of the can is often freezing cold, which will break hot computer shit ofc), and then use up the entire can trying to get into all the nooks and crannies. Do this outside ofc. If that doesn't help, then you'll have no choice but to learn how to open up the notebook and clean it out, again with compressed air. Good luck Anon. BTW, I started out on Mint Cinnamon, and then moved to Manjaro XFCE after a couple of years. I'm a lot happier now. :^)

Anonymous 05/09/2020 (Sat) 13:46:25 No.2795

>>2792 >What are some very light weight distros for a shitty outdated laptop with 4gb ram? Cross compile Gentoo for it. Compile a custom unbloated custom kernel, and use a faster DE like xfce, or rice out your own DE. I use openbox, tint2, urxvt, and SpaceFM. I really like it. I've also heat good things about lxqt. Though the fact it uses Qt makes me wonder how lightweight it really is. >Also, is there any way to reduce heat from a laptop without disassembling it out to clean? You could underclock it, but if it's already slow... > I have already tried blowing it with a straw but doesn't seem to work. you better mean you used a can of air with a straw and not your fucking breath! You're going to get spittle on the board and fuck shit up! Don't blow on electronics! SALIVA=SALTWATER=CORROSION=DEATH Go to Walmart or Tesco or whatever you have in your country and buy a can of air, open it up, take it outside, and blow it out properly.

Anonymous 05/09/2020 (Sat) 21:10:10 No.2797

>Guix System is pretty cool but for whatever reason the packages can be busted in general and the filesystem structure brings more strange oddities that i can't be bothered to deal with >Video editing in blender is comfortable but ungodly slow even with Michael Meyer's render python script and honestly without making proxy clips it's still slow to playback videos if you have an effect on making certain accurate cuts without looking at audio waveforms like a mega autist >normal subtitles in the VSE is also extra shit or rather you can't have a good looking border around the subtitles, (there's an autistic way around it but holy fuck i am not making multiple 3d meshes for subtitles) >I have to use mpv with an ffmpeg script addon to cut videos manually (better than punching in timestamps in the cli) and order them as well, for blah in *, ffmpeg concat all this >then use aegisub for good subtitles >then look into audacity to check if the audio levels are peaking, if they do, edit within audacity, rip out the audio in the finished video and inject the audio back in On the plus side of all this video editing autism, i don't do anything silly like re-rendering untouched video and losing any sort of quality but the easiness is sort of loss along the way. Why the hell aren't NLEs smart enough to not re-render an entire video, especially if all of the damn videos have the exact same codec? I must be in a weird niche use case.

Anonymous 05/10/2020 (Sun) 19:47:53 No.2805

>>2797 Checkout https://www.mltframework.org/docs/melt/ Also, learn to greentext.

Anonymous 06/26/2020 (Fri) 03:23:43 No.2966

>>1994 Going a little into init here, does anyone have experience with s6 init? I noticed that artix offers it as a choice along with runit and openrc. I know runit gets a lot of praise, and I do like how simple it is, but I also know that development on it has basically stopped. Is s6 any good? I'm not a huge fan of openrc.

Anonymous 06/26/2020 (Fri) 03:26:37 No.2967

>>2966 Don't know much about s6. You should try it out with a spare computer or in a vm. What do you have against openrc?

Anonymous 06/26/2020 (Fri) 03:39:09 No.2969

>>2967 I set it up in a VM earlier today using their weekly image with lxqt just for a quick usable desktop. It seems quite fast and pretty verbose during bootup. Haven't had the chance to mess with it a lot. I don't hate openrc, but I tend to find it is a bit sluggish compared to the alternatives, even just old sysvinit. I don't do a lot of tinkering with init. Most of my interactions with my init system are just starting, rebooting, and shutting down, so speed means more to me than maybe it should. Speed, stability, and not using binary logs.

Anonymous 06/26/2020 (Fri) 04:08:21 No.2971

>>2969 Couple more things to consider: >compatibility with software, if you ever need (most software shouldn't depend of init system, but there is gnome) >ease of writing your own service/modifying configs, if you need to run a server but it doesn't come with service script >language it is written in >optionally: license and pozzness

Anonymous 06/26/2020 (Fri) 04:39:18 No.2977

>>2971 Why anyone would ever want to use GNOME I have no idea. Pretty much any non-systemd init is going to have some of the same issues with compatibility, though most distros who offer alternate inits take this in mind when packaging software. It looks like it's C code, and ISC license, so no big issues there. the only problem is your second point, and that's just something I'll have to look at as I'm using it in the VM. Hopefully another anon here has used it and can state his opinion of it.

Anonymous 06/28/2020 (Sun) 19:36:30 No.2983

>>2977 Update on s6: I quite like it. It handles dependencies for services automatically, which is nice. This is something runit does not do. For example, network manager requires dbus. S6 would handle this automatically, while I'd have to add it manually for runit. The whole bundle system is a little confusing for finding certain services, but it's not too bad. I tested it out switching the default sddm for lightdm and it worked fine. https://skarnet.org/software/s6/why.html is a short page on some of the features of s6 compared to other init systems, and one thing I really like is that logs are never lost. Overall, I can definitely see this replacing runit in popularity when it comes to alternative init systems, espeically as runit spends more and more time being inactive. I wouldn't call it perfect, but I would call it very good.

Anonymous 09/05/2021 (Sun) 18:07:40 No.3274

>>1994 > (you really shouldn't do this, if you don't know what you're putting yourself into, see: https://itvision.altervista.org/why.linux.is.not.ready.for.the.desktop.current.html ). Did I stumble onto internet time portal into late 1990-s, or what? News from post-2018 for you: Linux desktop is not a problem at all. Running one for over dozen years. The problem is that Linux foundation as such is now utterly PWNed, up to and including Torvalds himself being blackmailed into "voluntary" retirement. Hence all the bullshit like the infamous systemd thing. So it's going to be supplied by the same, uh, people as Weendows and Muck Ox. Therefore, a good question is: are there forks of the core from a more trustworthy team? For that matter, Libreoffice is still okay, but some bad smell already comes from that side too, see >>219

Anonymous 11/02/2021 (Tue) 01:20:03 No.3292

Anyone with experience in Guix SD here?

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