>>33947 Very nice!

>>33890 >>33934 >>33947 Glad to see you gaining knowledge. You're on the right track and I believe you'll achieve great things. As for your math, what is the circumference of your main shaft? What about your pulley's? Theses do matter for calculating your speed of spring take-up. Multiplying Kv by V to attain output speed is generally good enough, do remember this is unloaded speed. If you're using a sensored BLDC motor, especially if you're using Field Oriented Control (FOC), you can get that if your load is low. Since you're using a 64:1 mechanism, you should achieve close to your calculated RPM, but never quite there. The BLDC still has to accelerate to your desired velocity, this should be in a fraction of a second, it's worth having it in the back of your mind. Especially when switching directions. As for torgue, this is surprisingly complex. To keep things simple, you'll likely get close to Nm=(8.3*A)/kV. Your high velocity constant of 5900Kv translates to a lower torque constant. Assuming 2A, you'd see almost .0028Nm, or 28grams per cm. Pull force on the string is then N=Nm/radius in meters. As for making pulley's out of thumbtacks and crimps, that's clever. The plastic your strawberry's came in is PP (polypropylene) which is low friction. You should still use some kind of grease, preferably with graphite to keep things smooth over time. Your design is similar to this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z11xJi-MvYI Hope this helps, I look forward to seeing how your design works IRL.

TheRobotStudio on YouTube is doing an open source robot called "Hope-Light" and inviting his viewers to follow along with his progress . I have decided to follow along, although I will be modifying his designs as I go to customize it more to my liking. He expressed he wants this to be a open source community to advance humanoid robotics development in the DIY space and usher in the wider adoption of humanoid robots in more homes across the world. He's excited for what this can mean for global productivity and quality of life improvements it can bring if executed well. I like this vision. My decision to follow along with his project is to pick up a extra head of steam in my own humanoid robot building projects by utilizing his experience and formal education in robotics engineering as a legit decorated world class humanoid roboticist. A world leader in the field. By following his open source project loosely, I can get a breath of fresh air by skipping past the bang my head against the wall dead-ends and regular difficult hurdles and just get results. Sort of like fast food drive thru. It will be a relief for me. And confidence booster. To see something really happen at a faster pace for a change. Now none of this is to say I'm abandoning my existing projects. They will all go on as planned without interruption. This will be a parallel journey I will share. I will certainly learn a ton and can apply what I learn to my other projects. I will have this Hope - Light robot adaptation be named Dinah. I'll use Eve's base mesh for the external appearance. The two females can look similar in build but have different faces. This robot will use to some extent TheRobotStudio's design philosophy and approach for the Hope-Light project. This means it WILL use metal geared brushed DC servos and it WILL use non-human-like bone structure, but I will still give it human-like realistic silicone skin and it will use the exterior exoskeleton shell of the Eve robot I 3d modeled already. One downside to this Hope-Light parallel implementation is that because it uses metal gearing it will be loud in its operation. So it will never be able to pass for human in public. That's okay though. My other designs are reaching for that aim and my other designs are still the intention for Adam, Eve, and Abel. So that vision remains alive. And will continue. But this noisy robot will still be a great learning experience and capable of doing useful work including helping me build my other robots, chores, manufacturing products, cooking, etc. It will probably do most of the things the Adam, Eve, and Abel robot can do but not be as strong, fast, and articulated. So it will probably not play sports well or do rock climbing or various other serious physical strenuous types of work. But the long list of things it should be able to do is still enough for it to be awesome. A great thing is that it won't be so experimental and outside the box like my previous solo approaches. This one will be designed to a small degree by a real professional so it will happen way faster and more surely than mine. Although I am finding I am changing his design so much it's not really his design at all anymore but my own. However, I still plan to retain a significant number of strategic decisions, placements, and organization following his lead. My other designs are more of a pipe dream shooting for the moon. Going more similar to this open source one designed by a real pro is more of a "sure thing". Not that I don't believe I can achieve my more ambitious designs, but just that they are admittedly a taller order and more crossing fingers about them is all. I really think building a top tier legit walking and talking full humanoid is going to legitimize my journey more in my own eyes and give me a better resume to bring MORE hope toward my own robot builds. Just seems like doing this is a no brainer. I've attached a early design progress image from TheRobotStudio who is currently designing Hope-Lite in Solidworks. You'll note he fused the distal knuckle of 4 fingers so they are permanently partly bent. This was a decision to cut down on complexity but in my preference, I'd rather have that functionality. You'll also note that it cannot pronate or supinate the wrist. That takes away a TON of functionality which is not my preference. So my robot will add this function back. That said, as I was studying how to add pronation and supination without a ulna and radius bone, I stumbled across the simple and effective design of posable love dolls' skeletons. I realized they have pronation and supination in their stock skeletons, so I decided I will use that kind of skeleton for this project. They are simple, very strong, welded steel construction with heavy duty hinge systems. To be posable, the hinges are quite stiff, so I will need to loosen all hinges to reduce friction. They are a hollow lightweight tubing style. Actually not that heavy.

So today I went ahead and extracted this metal skeleton from a male love doll I had bought some months back to use as a base form from which to sculpt the appearance of another robot. I bought it mainly wanting the already decent human appearance it offers in the TPE body and face that can act as a starting point for sculpting a robot. This is better than having to begin sculpting from scratch in clay and making a mold or w/e. Just a shortcut for me. I bought a decent used male love doll for a few hundred dollars which was a bargain to say the least. The shipping alone had to be close to $200+ so it was priced WAY below the cost of the raw materials if I were to try to buy 50lb of TPE rubber. I intended to melt down the massive amount of TPE rubber once done using it to assist in the sculpt of another robot and use that melted down rubber to create the skin for a robot. So those ideas were I had planned for this doll. However, now that I have decided to use the skeleton for a robot build - now I'm REALLY maximizing that little investment! So after 4-5 hours of carefully removing the skin from the frame, I have it all off. I made a few tears here and there in the doll from rough handling during the skinning process and the lack of experience at this, but it went well overall. It was a very physically demanding job to separate the skin from the frame since you had to pry at it, cut it, and peel it and the whole time it fights you wanting to snap back to its original shape. I am quite sore but glad I got it done in a single day. Attached is a photo of the skeleton I just extracted and will be modding and using for Dinah Now, having gotten the skeleton out and analyzed it carefully, I noticed it does not have the ability to shrug, so I'll have to add a hinge on both sides to enable that movement. Also, its bar where the tibia and fibia would be is not proportional in length to the bar that acts as the femur. I can see that they made the doll taller by just adding length to the tibia/fibia bar rather than proportionally adding height throughout the robot. So its proportions are off due to their laziness or oversight. In any case, I have to modify ALL the proportions some I think to match the proportions of my Eve base mesh sculpt. The neck is also quite hard to bend so I might have to add a couple hinges to it. All the nuts for every hinge on it are welded into place to prevent them backing out so I will have to grind off all these welds so I can loosen the nuts to disable posing and instead have all joints freely moving to reduce friction. I will have to add proper fingers and a palm. I will 3d print these bones for the fingers. TheRobotStudio is using Feetech SC0009 servos for the fingers. I'm planning to substitute in three N20 66rpm motors in place of each Feettech SC0009 servo. By combining three of these N20 motors, I am able to surpass the total torque of the SC0009 servo but after factoring in the size of our respective output winches, mine will be about 13% slower than his. This is fine by me because his robot hand designs are always extremely fast in finger speed and I can get by 13% slower than this. The purpose of swapping in N20 66rpm motors for the Feetech SC0009 motors is to cut costs and I just have a ton of them already and have been itching to use them. The Feetech SC0009 servo is around $11 and my N20 66rpm motors are only around $0.80 so 3 of them is $2.40. So that's $8.60 saved ever time I do this part alternative strategy. Well the savings is a bit less since I then have to supply my own motor controller H-bridge chip and potentiometer to read joint angle. So maybe only $8 saved. However, from what I gather, the Feetech SC0009 requires a serial adapter board to run it and doesn't use PWM but uses serial. I do NOT like this AT ALL in terms of my preferences and the adapter boards were $13 each and only serve 4 servos. That will add up quickly. So I'm actually saving that cost too. I prefer my microcontrollers to pwm directly to the h-bridge with no middle man software whatsoever to maximize my control. TheRobotStudio is using 3 different sizes of Feetech servos in his approach. You can see the wrist servo is much bigger in his CAD model. I am operating under the assumption I can cram TONS of these little N20 66rpm motors and use more than one of them per joint. So I can use as many as I need to get to the torque I require. I will use L298N motor driver h-bridge chips with these N20 66rpm motors to drive them. This chip can safely power 2 N20 motors per channel and has two channels. It's VERY cheap maybe like $0.15 per chip I think - don't remember. I'll use Arduino mega to send out the pwm. I'll use 10k ohm 3 pin wheeled potentiometers to read the joint angles and these will be coupled to the joints by fishing line which will translate the joint angles over to the potentiometers whose values will be read in by the Arduino Megas. So a lot of my own designs for control and sensory input I'm sticking with for this project but using various elements of Hope-Light for a hybrid approach and swapping in different actuators whenever I feel inclined. >>33955 The cm of the main shaft was included in the calculation already in the calculation post above. The cm of the pulleys doesn't matter in itself but what actually matters is the size difference between the thicker pulley and thinner pulley being 2x in diameter so each pulley acts as a 2x from the previous one. So only the relative size matters between one pulley and the next - just like how it is for gears.

I just came up with a cool alternative way to downgear a 2430 BLDC motor that might work. Attached is a illustration of the cheap downgearing idea: So basically, I figured what if I could remove the N20 motor from its gearbox/"gear set" by cutting it free or w/e. But I keep its center axle in place cutting away only everything else. You'd then presumably have a metal shaft as a entrance to the gearbox and a metal shaft exiting the top of the gearbox. I then turn that metal input shaft and output shaft into pulleys. I feed my 2430 motor output shaft pulley/winch into the input shaft of each of 4 N20 motor gearboxes, evenly distributing the load. Each gearbox downgears my 2430 motor 150:1. Each gearbox chatgpt said could handle about 5-6lb load but this can't be sudden or fast direction change this is really pushing it. But it seems 4 gearboxes should handle most of what we'd want from a 2430 motor. And the fact we can fit them all within the height of the motor output shaft default length and within the width of the 2430 motor diameter for the most part seems it would be a pretty significant downgearing for very low space taken as the cost. You could even locate a few more gearboxes off the motor anywhere and have those fed further distributing to them the load if only 4 gearboxes was not enough to handle expected forces. The cool thing is supposing we did this, it would cost us four N20 motors which is $0.80x4 = $3.20. That is VERY cheap for a gearbox as I read that a planetary gearbox for it would be like $25-30! And the planetary gearbox would take up WAY WAY WAY WAY more space which is highly coveted in our application - space we can't afford to spare. And the great thing is these little gearboxes you can fit ANYWHERE into a nook or cranny since they are so tiny... and you can use as many as you want to get up to the total forces you need them to handle as a collective. Seems like this could be a cool technique. I want to give it a go. Any thoughts? Note: this would be something I'd try on the Dinah robot where I'm using metal gears despite the noise these create since its a lower budget simpler robot I'm doing just to get something done faster for a change. My Adam, Eve, and Abel robots will be going pulleys to downgear to make them very quiet in operation as has been the plan forever.

https://www.technologyreview.com/2024/02/23/1088851/alabama-court-embryo-artificial-wombs/ >It’s common for judges to wrestle with complex questions as they try to apply old laws to new technology. But what’s so unusual about this decision is that the judges ended up giving opinions on technology that hasn’t been fully invented.

This is about as unrealistic as you can get. Artificial wombs might be possible in future but likely not before fetal transplant develops and it won't be something mobile. Even with artificial wombs and if you can start from the beginning of the process you still need eggs and you aren't likely picking those up at the market. At that point you are just essentially doing a surrogate pregnancy with some uknown girl. >>24847 >>24849 >That's a lot of money to cope and seethe over poor life choices. Womb transplants are done for women that lost their womb from surgery because of cancer but want to birth a child or another child. It's very rare because it is a high risk surgery and the womb has to be removed later because it can become necrotic. There has been some successful pregnancies after womb transplants but it really can't be viewed as any way relevant to artificial wombs. >>28810 >Only the recent ancestors, the looks (phenotype), and the self-identification with a group based on that, is what matters. Genotype is what influences phenotype. Phenotype is also influenced by environment. Together this is known as epigenetics. Genotypes can tell you about inheritable illnesses and predispositions to develop something later under right conditions. If you only are speaking of ethnicity or race or more generally ancestry then ethnic groups are more cultural groups built around things like shared language and so on and racial groups are not equivalent to genetic population clusters. Might want to point out babies can have their eye colour and hair colour change to be different from how it looked when they were born, this commonly happens.

https://kr-asia.com/are-synthetic-wombs-the-future-of-childbirth-new-chinese-experiment-sparks-debate >Recently, the First Affiliated Hospital of Zhengzhou University (ZDYFY) announced a groundbreaking synthetic womb experiment without the use of extracorporeal membrane oxygenation (ECMO). In this experiment, a four-month-old fetal lamb survived for 90 minutes while hooked up to a unique apparatus, maintaining vital signs through a connection with its mother.

>>20359 If you insist that we caused the Indian famines then you can fuck off a bunch of Indian tribal satraps equally gave no fucks about Rajipp or his boy Sanjay don't blame the British for being callous with a bunch of savages If you refuse to say that we caused the Indian famines then it's all deliberate & I swear m8 we'll do it again fuckin rule Britannia

>>20402 Io insisto che siete delle facce di merda. E più tempo rimarrete nel nostro paese ad interferire con i nostri affari e più lunga e dolorosa sarà la vostra punizione. Non saranno i popoli inglesi o americani a pagare, ma solo voi responsabili, non vi farete scudo di nessuno e nessuno verrà in vostro aiuto. Tutte le vostre storielle e propaganda culturale, ve le rimangerete tutte e forza fino ad esplodere.

>>20403 You speak as though we mastered European Imperium and then gave it to the Khazar Jews with a deliberate consciousness. No we never. You know we didn't mean to. But whence they seized control of the aristocrats, they extended it to malice and usury and punished the British for envy of the size of it, and despised us with particularity for it's conduct. Freeing the slaves did not lend itself particularly to corruption and usury. So we were punished and we were punished *first*. Those lessons that we are being forced to learn now were coming for Italy. They were due for Italy just as they are next due for the Congolese or the Uzbekistani. They're just lower down on this list than (You). Saying "it's just the Eternal Anglo" oversimplifies the problem and so the lessons required to avoid repeating it will be missed. That's how come I interfere with (You) Italian. That's why I'm no polite diplomatic embassy worker. Post your memes; even if I could stop you, I wouldn't. But I won't apologise for being an Anglo. We do not apologise.

>>20403 tutte il foto di ebrei e hai scelto diogenes che ridicolizza plato con un pollo

>>33320 BTW, look at this actuator detail I dreamed up a while ago. >>12941 See the motor like his. A little different. There's a cone on the end of the actuator. The pulley to the right has a spring pulling it down. "If" a large force is needed then the pulley is pulled towards the smaller end of the cone on the motor. Giving you a better force, but the motor has to spin more. Auto transmission based on spring constant. His is much better for linear but I think the one I dreamed up would be good for waifus. If I was going to improve his for linear actuators, I would make it like a scissor jack. I think it would be much stronger. Possibly the sprung weight would be higher but maybe not because the scissor mechanism would be lighter and far less cost as a truss wouldn't need carbon fiber which is outrageous in cost. You could use fiberglass. Carbon way more expensive but it is super stiff.

>>33364 >this actuator detail I dreamed up a while ago. Nice work! You're really ahead of the curve with that one, Grommet. :^) >this was my response back then, BTW : ( >>12943 ). I may say I loved the 'CVT power-pull' on that little bike -- smooth as silk. :) I like your ideas about further refinements to your design. We here could certainly all use such a device. To my own thinking, Jugglebot Anon's design is a great (& simple) start, and it's linear-actuation certainly works well with my tiny-mass/high-leverage-coefficient skeletal limb designs. Regardless, keep those ideas flowing Anon. Together, We're All Gonna Make It. Cheers. :^) >=== -prose edit

I was looking at gears and files I had saved and ran across an interesting very high reduction gear system that I had forgot about. A bit difficult to understand. It uses the teeth of gears very finely offset with a separate track to wedge them into place. So two tracks have teeth(gear teeth) slightly offset, and a third forces a flexible wedge into them to align them. Moving the track forward. It's primarily used in motors. The Moon rover used one to drive the wheels. They supposedly are very efficient, have very little to no backlash and compact with high gear ratios. Here's a link to video that shows how they work. Notice the linear example he shows first. Maybe, not sure, this could be set up as an actuator with the "flex spline" being activated or pushed into the two active geared splines by a roller that moves up the linear two splines. For testing these could be 3D printed with two solid gears(splines) and one flexible made with TPU or whatever. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QidXf9pFYo https://www.engineeringclicks.com/harmonic-drive/ In some ways, kinds, sorts, this is like the idea I had to use a ball screw and one solenoid to scoot the balls up one at a time. >>9984 I wonder if you could do the same with these two wedge shaped gears and have a single edge move the parts just like the "flex spline" moves the rotary motion of the gear train in a harmonic drive?? Another way of looking at designs somewhat similar is the action of a farm jack.

>>33531 Uh oh, I'm repeating myself. Sigh...

Fridman interview, Electric vs. Hydraulic actuation: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6r6KPuJ689o

>>33962 Dang, that looks too cool, Mechnomancer. Be careful on that thing, lol. >muh le 2000lb motor Lolwut? >or a spider-like platform for SPUD to ride around on. I'm going with the pony motif for dear robowaifu Sumomo-chan rn. It'll be her 'hoers', and she'll be it's rider. But even the pone will be able to climb up with her onto a wheeled zipper platform for scootin' around fast (for example, going with Master to the park for picnics).

>>33969 >muh le 2000lb motor >Lolwut? A 2000lb winch motor, each motor pulls 15A for a total of 180 watts.

>>33972 Oh, OK got it. Heh, I thought you were saying the motor weighed a ton. :^)

Bipedal character design. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_LW7u-nk6Q

>>33988 related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0F3l-skLos

>>33648 Super cool! Thanks, Anon!

HannahDev has a recent video showing some nice progress with the face/torso integration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSwHvz2qZjA

Dexterous task training https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-CGSQAO5-Q

>>33984 Don't know if this one has been posted on the board for sure, but kinda related. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FY-MD4gteeE

Are quads OK in this thread? Parkour for quads. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjWvf90l4cg

>>33752 >"... In order to build decentralized trust in the system we will utilize multiple protocols over the next few months per the roadmap outlined." That seems a bit hand-wavey to me, Anon. It's a good idea, but it's pretty unclear to me rn from a technical sense how this proof is going to work (periodically solve a matmul, lol how does that even work?), and also what their business model is. How does 'proving' I'm a good contributor add to their bottom line, for instance? We need some kind of solution for this arena, but one much more in line with how Folding@home was run at first, and one much less designed around getting yet another GH-junior-partner-wannabe startup on their legs. Also, we have a thread on this exact domain already, please respond there if you care to : ( >>8958 ). TIA.

>>33754 >How does 'proving' I'm a good contributor add to their bottom line, for instance? I have no idea. I don't really know enough about AI to understand this one way or another. I see an interesting new AI thingie and I share it. Especially if it's p2p or locally-hosted.

>>33770 OK, fair enough then. Thanks for looking after us to keep us all informed. Cheers, Anon. :^)

Tonight. 10 10 7PM https://x.com/Tesla/status/1843922599765590148 What did he mean by this? :^)

>>33981 >>I hope to see thousands of smol entrepreneurs spring up around the robowaifu industries, all over the world. >I don't want to be the negative nancy, but I think NIGGERS might make people eschew that kind of smol business operation inside metropolitan areas. At least inside the US. No one wants to use a vehicle that smells like drugs, piss, shit, or worse after the previous occupant decided to use your autonomous car as a mobile toilet & drug haven. < Roody-poos lol can you even say that here!? :D Indeed, no one does. While my hopes were related very-specifically to robowaifu smol-businesses (not taxi services), I'm sure that all these future neurosurgeons, mathematicians, and astronauts you speak of will indeed wreak havoc just as you predict; I predict that eventually the Burger govt and it's puppets (ie, the Globohomo) will implement rules that all Rowbowwvenns :D must be equipped with (((safety features))) -- essentially turning them all into Johnny Cabs from Total Recall. After all, Anon "We can't have those politically-incorrect misfits using our infrastructure we need for the invaders, now can we!??111?ONE" So basically rolling imprisonments systems to drop the Christians, Anons, White Men, and other 'social rebels' off at the nearest Ministry of Love reprogramming centers ie, execution bays. >They'll tie it to a smart device so people will be held accountable! >Even if they do, that won't stops nigs and other deplorable people from nogging. Pardon my reservation and rhetoric, but I'm not optimistic for the model Y or the Robovan. Ehh, that's Elon's problem, and I'm happy to let him & his billions deal with it. In the meantime... the introduction of humanoid robots off their factory lines is a BFD that will lay important groundwork for the soon appearance of robowaifus on the markets. This is a good thing, IMO. :^) >and free humans from drudgery which alongside AI will usher in a new age. Yep. Around these parts, it's known as the Robowaifu Age. :^) >I can't promise that age will be good for everyone, but it'll be different. It'll be glorious for all normal men. OTOH, 'foid REEE'g will be off the charts, reaching levels that shouldn't even be possible. >tl;dr

>>33960 >Super, bright, prescient. They really are. I hang out at Caltech from time to time. It was, before DIE took hold to kill it a remarkable place. The heritage there is filled with brilliance, the campus is charming, and the Athenaeum is lovely; maintaining all it's White Civilization splendor from it's OG days of yore. :^) >>33961 Lol. >implying I wouldn't want to be 'stuck' with dear SPUD :D < saved. >>33964 >The girls are mindnumbingly cute. Portent of things to come bro. All these pl*bbitors sh*teing on the very idea of robowaifus have no idea what's coming! I advise them all to prepare their angus, lol. :DD >=== -minor funpost, prose edit

I saw the Elon Musk bartending bot during his robotaxi debut. The same Americans that clap in movie theatres are going to tip service robots. I can just tell. The robotaxis were pretty cool though. My only issue with them at a glance is how you park one if you own it yourself. They're supposed to be something you buy as a fleet of vehicles or as a personal transport and in the latter case the vehicle has to deal with your driveway and park in the place you need it to. I'm sure they'll figure that out before the vehicle hits the consumer market.

>>33974 >I saw the Elon Musk bartending bot during his robotaxi debut. The same Americans that clap in movie theatres are going to tip service robots. I can just tell. Shh! Don't give away our sekrits, bro! This is a form of 'anthropomorphize teh cool robots', and it's something we should encourage here if we're going to see a shift away from the Globohomo's anti-robots predictive programming they've been sh*teing out of one of their favorite hellholes -- Hollyweird -- for decades now. Remember we want the Overton Window to shift in the minds of these people, so when the femsh*te screeching about robowaifus kicks into high gear once they hit the markets, the average Joe Sixpack won't give them the time of day. >tl;dr If normalfags want to clap for the Optimus, then let 'em do it I say. :^) BTW, it was fun watching (AFAICT for the very first time in history) a crowd of normalfags interacting with several humanoid robots. Clearly, there's a long way to go with the human-robot interactions yet (to say the least!) But at least in Optimus' case, the bodies are coming along rather well now. Won't be long for Tesla, I predict. >The robotaxis were pretty cool though. My only issue with them at a glance is how you park one if you own it yourself. They're supposed to be something you buy as a fleet of vehicles or as a personal transport and in the latter case the vehicle has to deal with your driveway and park in the place you need it to. I'm sure they'll figure that out before the vehicle hits the consumer market. < "Own 20 cybercabs [in a smol fleet], and you'll manage [your little flock of cars] like a shepherd." Heh, he was clearly trying to espouse a smol-business scenario for the audience in attendance that wouldn't entail more than 2 or 3 million $US, for a passive revenue stream. Smart man. I hope to see thousands of smol entrepreneurs spring up around the robowaifu industries, all over the world. And soon. Cheers, Anon. :^)

>>33976 >I hope to see thousands of smol entrepreneurs spring up around the robowaifu industries, all over the world. I don't want to be the negative nancy, but I think NIGGERS might make people eschew that kind of smol business operation inside metropolitan areas. At least inside the US. No one wants to use a vehicle that smells like drugs, piss, shit, or worse after the previous occupant decided to use your autonomous car as a mobile toilet & drug haven. >They'll tie it to a smart device so people will be held accountable! Even if they do, that won't stops nigs and other deplorable people from nogging. Pardon my reservation and rhetoric, but I'm not optimistic for the model Y or the Robovan. The humanoid robots I'm a little more optimistic about since those won't be shared around. Generally, they can help reduce human labor (for better or worse) and free humans from drudgery which alongside AI will usher in a new age. I can't promise that age will be good for everyone, but it'll be different.

>>33981 >>33982 >reply-related

>>258080 I’m not sold on these people being her parents Too old and their are no fotos of them together although she may have deleted that stuff as soon as she got a thread, I haven’t seen any consistent proof apart from theories

>>258160 stfu TheGatorGamer everyone knows that's her parents lmao

>>258080 doesn't seem to be legit.

>>258179 It's from the literal government website you clown

Simon massively downgraded! Business is going great. At least TheGatorGamer has a new garden to take posh photos in

he is now falseflagging as a ramonposter again, while keep up with his pathetic joker cope and BBC worship, but sure isn't the porn addicted gaycel >>258227 his manchild "le joker" fantasy is pretty pathetic, the dude is in his 30s

https://archive.ph/jkAEt#153334 Another lonely and pathetic weekend to Nuzach where he preach his gospel about black dick supremacy and love for his jewish masters.

>>258364 Oh boy, the new cope about him posting black dicks and even CP.

>>258366 you forgot to post this one concerning you nazi virgin retards bitching about jews nonstop for your own fucked up lives.

>>258368 C'mon now, Nuzach. Lmao!

>>33949 Anon, this is a small fandom.

>>33951 Then there is nothing to be affraid of

>>33952 >small fandoms are immune to dying >somehow not more susceptible to it

>>33963 If it dies you can only blame yourself.

>>33967 Yes, you get it. The /co/ fandom is responsible for the threads dying, and Dom not making anything worth posting about, or anything at all, is why it won't be revived.

>>32387 Yes. Since men all desire just one thing, and it's disgusting >insert picture of mountain cabin in the woods, loving wife, happy family, etc..., and the Globohomo have effectively robbed the average man of such simple pleasures (by rotting """modern""" women's minds with their satanic lies, according to their father's will in the matter), then he'll seek satisfaction elsewhere. For Anon, this largely entails creating robowaifus + turning away from 3DPD. It's a much, much deeper topic than even this entire board could cover, but those are a couple of the highlights. >Any company (or maker) failing to take this into account will (likely) be stuck with mediocrity. This. >"If you build the waifus, Anons will come." :^)

This is a good question. Nobody wants to fund the robowaifus. Maybe even if it was finished for ideological reasons.

>>32289 >>32306 >>32341 If you are still around, I am someone with the skills and curiosity. I'm an embedded systems engineer who now works in crypto for a day job. However, I saw through the marketing terms and got a similar impression to >>32308 . Your site is tailored for magazine blurbs and is not giving much information for enthusiasts. I dipped into your Robots external link and it is a quickly made wordpress site. I don't mean this rudely, but your robots seem to be mechanical busts of substandard sex dolls. In another community, dedicated to love dolls, we recognize that Taiwanese factories are producing better sculpts than what you have there. On the technical side, are you using a fully custom OS? How locked down is it? Do you have more details besides "robust processor"? Perhaps your presentation is just out-dated. If so, it needs to shift to a more technical focus to attract the people who want to make waifus.

id like to hear some reasons on what the advantage of making the maidbot opensource are. i say maidbot because apparently sex bot is off limits around here. if its to be made opensource it should be gpl if its to be made for profit itd be however much harder. i dont see selling individual unlicensed kits as viable. even with the gpl only the us might respect that license and might.

>>33970 heres something else i thought of. why do we consider making a maidbot more doable than making an indistrual machine? say we wanted make a machine that makes 3d filaments or making springs or paper clips? a welding bot too but for some reason i can see myself selling paperclips, 3d filament or springs. i cant see myself selling welding bots...

>>9958 >I have tried chocolate on my ps vita, it was a great experience, kinda sad I'm actually used to Gzdoom. ZDoom was the first source port I discovered (other than Doom 95), but after using it for a little while I realized I wanted something closer to the original DOS release. I also tried Risen 3D just as a novelty, but unsurprisingly I didn't last long with that. Hypothetically I wouldn't mind something like pic related as a if it could match the dream-like feeling of the image.

>>9959 I've never heard of Risen, what quake source ports do you use?

>>9960 Quake never really gelled with me. I'd like to get into Quake III at some point though. I really like Unreal Tournament, so I figure that Quake III is worth a shot. I haven't played much of it, but it seemed decent.

>>9961 Quake 2 is always fun as well. I thin Iron Wail and Quake Spasm Spiked are the current best quake source ports. Dark places is nice as well for graphics I guess. I forget it but there is a super nice source port of Q3 I played.

>>9962 I do remember playing the Nintendo 64 port of Quake II in split-screen mode once and remember it being decent. I can't really recall anything else about it though.

>>33882 >Yeah. Sorry, if this disturbed anyone. Nah, it's fine Anon. We're just concerned for you is all. Glad that it seems you're getting back on-track with things though. If you make some for R&D posts of your design progress, I'm sure the whole board would welcome seeing that. Please take care of yourself, NoidoDev. Cheers. :^)

ATRI 13 Apparently finding the super top secret island that was also public knowledge and in the news was easy. How truly convenient for Natsuki and Atri. Atri could always lie, now she can actively betray her master. How convenient for the plot. Now that she has a deep understanding of Natsuki, she can actively speak and act to manipulate him to her own ends. How convenient for her! Natsuki is coerced into turning Atri into a ridiculously complex relay. As it turns out, Eden is beyond perfect. It just needed Atri to turn somethings on. Why not just use the server running the island which is clearly more advanced than Atri? Why didn't Nonko just plug Atri in to save the world with her perfect island and save her grandson from the despair of losing his lover? Why not just make it so the island was just always on by default? Frankly, the only logical answer is that Nonko is a sadistic weirdo. Really though, if you want to enjoy this ending, you need to turn your mind completely off. Don't think, don't question, just react emotionally and clap like a seal when Natsuki abandons his family to be with Atri in VR. Thinking will only hurt, there's constant logical inconsistencies. Frankly, it's a rushed, poorly written, sloppily executed ending which detracts from the rest of the show. I still enjoyed the show overall. It just jumped the shark between episode 9 and 10 and never recovered its former charm. There were moments that were still wonderful. I'm glad I stuck with it. I just wish it was less cliche, easy to predict, and rushed at the end. Felt like melodrama for the sake of melodrama rather than a natural extension of the story presented before episode 9. I hope others enjoyed it more than I did. There's still so much good if you can stomach the lack of logic.

>>33903 Kiwi,, you have been top-tier as a reviewer -- and especially of these two series! Really excellent work. I hope you won't allow this disappointment to dissuade you from continuing to do so in the future here. Cheers, Anon. :^)

>>33946 Thanks! I hope we get more robowaifu anime soon!

>>33956 >I hope we get more robowaifu anime soon! This. May it not be long, and may it be full-on Anon-frenly!! :^)

>>20436 Basato utente di youtube ha reuploadato il famoso documentario sull'invasione europea With Open Gates. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2AsczGKB1g Link per scaricare il video https://litter.catbox.moe/dkk9du.mp4

>>20437 Immagina fallire l'esame della storia 109 volte, ed essere espulso dalla scuola lo stesso numero, falliti

aggiornamento

Se un paese adotta regolamenti e moneta di un'organizzazione più grande, perdendo quindi la sovranità su entrambi, ed ha attrattive paesaggistiche e climatiche rispetto al resto, diventerà la casa al mare di quella organizzazione e i suoi abitanti ne diventeranno i camerieri. Inevitabile, anche se non fosse il disegno di una elite malvagia (la cui esistenza mi pare anch'essa sufficientemente documentata). Il successore del numero tatuato sul braccio avrà il simbolo della bandierina blu con le stellette.

>>784 Roast some cut down carrots, put the lentils in, with water, you may add add some laurel leafs, let it cook at some decent heat. While waiting roast some onion in a pan, add some flour when then onions are already dark, wait till the flour is golden or brown and add this to the lentils. Of course stir it from time to time so it wont glue on the ground, scratch a bit around there. Put some salt and black pepper in, maybe a bit Muscat powder. You may experiment with some additional spices, a bit chilly is also nice. Also add some sausages (e.g. German hotdog like "Saitenwürste"), maybe cut them in a little, let it boil on low heat for a while. The sausages need to exchange some flavor with the rest but don't really need to be cooked so add them rather late. Tomato sauce makes it a bit fruity, that's the more Italian than (South)-German variant, in that case you don't need the rosted flour above, and it may fit better without the sausages. I sometimes also added other vegetables, especially green or red pepper. Also need some pasta. For the fully German variant it would be pasta with eggs and rather mushy instead al dente. But works with other pasta as well. Mix it on the plate and add some vinegar (also for better digestion). You can of course also cook it with some meat that may be smoked or already cooked, amd it needs to gets soft when cooked so you won't end up with the something like rubber. Or replace the pasta with potatoes.

Oh hey /ck/ >Made some baked chicken thighs and onions with rice made from the liquid. It's not perfect but I thought of you >OH HEY ITS ROYAL RUMBLE Starts in an hour Smug/wooo/18702

When I cook lentils I make them into lentil and rice stew. Mince a large onion or a few bundles of green onions, and several jalapeno peppers, a red bell pepper, and an entire bulb of garlic. Saute them in butter, coconut oil, bacon grease, or whatever is available to you. I sometimes add half a pound or a pound of sliced deli ham, minced, or about a pound of lean ground beef, chicken, et cetera, but this is optional. Saute it all until the onions begin to caramelize. You can get the meat to begin to brown a bit too, but cooking all the meat all the way through isn't necessary at this stage. Deglaze the pan and get everything into a large kettle with a gallon of water. Bring the water and onion mixture to a boil. At this point additional seasonings would be good. A tablespoon each of salt and pepper, and a bay leaf, are a good start, but this is very personal. Just keep in mind that it's a big batch and a lot of stuff to season. If you like bouillon cubes then we're talking about anywhere from ten to twenty, for example, for this much liquid, depending on your preferences. Get it all boiling. While you're waiting for it to boil, pour in a can of mixed vegetables, to give it a bit more color and texture. When it's all boiling, add one pound of washed lentils and one pound of brown rice. Bring it all back to a boil. Keep stirring it. The lentils in particular are prone to going to the bottom in a dense sticky mass that won't cook properly if you don't keep them moving. When it is all back at a rolling boil and the lentils are circulating and not in a glob at the bottom of the pan, I like to add one of those small cans of tomato paste. Break it up and mix it in with a wire whisk, don't just plop it in there. Get it mixed more or less uniform. Now put a cover on that kettle and put it in the oven at about 275 F. Or 135 Celsius, if you prefer. Let it all simmer for a few hours. It will lose a fair amount of water and the liquid level will drop, but that's okay. Stir it before serving with oyster crackers. The leftovers freeze beautifully. I know this isn't /fit/ but lentils + rice gives you all the needed amino acids for animal metabolism. It'll also be fairly high in fiber, vitamins, and iron.

>>823 Thanks! Glad to see some info on /ck/ about this. Any advice for someone in poverty who has access to little else but a microwave, a big cup, and water? I can get a small variety of food supplies at a drugstore like a Walgreen's, but little else.

le lentils le fatcat

>>33691 Thanks! >>33694 There seems to be a misunderstanding. I meant that her range of motion IRL was less then it was simulation. Likely due to clipping. >Walking mechanism I have, and still am, entirely against walking robots, Wheels are far more efficient and simpler to implement. Her legs will move to allow her wheels to move over obstacles. I appreciate your willingness to offer help, I hope you'll do so in the future. In this case, I was offering advice to get people thinking. This video demonstrates what I'm going for. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmXulwvCsZA

>>33695 Y/w. BTW, that is a wild doggo base in that video Kiwi. While I still want my baseline robowaifu designs to have two clear, bipedal legs, it would be wonderful if she could 'step onto' the doggo base for gettin' around proper fast (especially in, say, the outdoors walks to/from the park). Plus it's such a clear separation of concerns that all the general advances made with robo-doggos already would be applicable to the base. Just my views on it. Not really trying to sway your designs one way or other. You're in charge of this project! Really looking forward to see the latest progresses with Maidcom Mini, Anon. Cheers. :^)

So this is a hunch but I think the maid aspect of robotwaifu might be harder than the sex aspect. Folding the laundry, doing the dishes and cleaning is very delicate whereas the sex aspect is more rough and mechanical.

>>33842 I think you're correct for the most part, Anon. While there are some subtleties involved with good sn*snu, domestic work is in fact far more nuanced, expansive, and detailed. Good point, thanks. Cheers. :^)

@Kiwi What do you think about the idea of starting with one or two of these little Arduino-based car kits, as Maidcom Mini's mobility base? (cf. >>33809 ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkCP95zLvSQ&list=PLrOv9FMX8xJEEQFU_eAvYTsyudrewymNl&index=21 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2kxAh_I4ew

>>33266 You're right, Mechnomancer. Mark Tilden really is a kind of genius IMHO. I sure hope he'd approve of our push to create life-sized robowaifus that go so far beyond his own, foundational, works. I think he would! :^)

Complex systems are best built using an incremental approach, assembled together from small, reliable parts. This author has made important theoretical contributions for this approach to systems construction. >John Gall - Systemantics: How Systems Work and Especially How They Fail https://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=27116A9E0EBB855AE580D3D7DB3238DE >John Gall - The systems bible: the beginner's guide to systems large and small: being the third edition of Systemantics https://libgen.rs/book/index.php?md5=69111DA8D35908A7B774863430AFB6C1

>>33550 >“A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that worked. A complex system designed from scratch never works and cannot be patched up to make it work. You have to start over with a working simple system.” >related: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Gall_(author)#Gall's_law https://blog.prototypr.io/galls-law-93c8ef8b651e https://nordicapis.com/what-is-galls-law-and-how-could-it-direct-api-design/ http://principles-wiki.net/principles:gall_s_law

Linguistics-focused wiki -- a topic of clear importance to us here on /robowaifu/ . http://glottopedia.org/index.php/Main_Page

>>3598 I will have to ask him about it.

>>3595 I agree. The NSA already has everything on the internet recorded. We need something new, at the very least they will have to spend billions more on cracking the alternative. Something decentralized and encrypted by design, like crypto but for regular internet. If bitcoin and other crypto can't be cracked, then that's what the new internet should be.

>>3595 I'm shocked nobody mentioned I2P. That's what I2P is. It's like Tor but internal only, everyone is a node by default, and you can torrent. If you mean low level connections between computers stuff, that's what the Yggdrasil Network is. IP addresses are replaced by keys you control that can be represented as IPv6 addresses. You connect bunch of computers and the network automatically forms. It works just fine over the current Internet too. i2pd, an implementation of I2P directly supports Ygg mesh networking. So if you had to start a network like you describe from scratch, Ygg+I2P can do it already now.

I'm also dumping a list of darknet chans. Since small chans come and go, nomad anons must keep a chans.txt fresh so we never become lost. Reply if you know other chans. Since Tor users can't post files, I made a tiny I2P torrent with the text file. An opportunity for you to try: 9bd4e1ec015ec5632c84f6e168bd046d4a2ec7a3

>>3615 A little update before anyone downloads: 449649b226b7d7ea38b3fa2b235b5b6f04d94057

>>29488 NoidoDev what do you think of this video? Can a person of average intelligence get anything from it or a good overview? Or even better be able to build something with this data? I wonder if we could not use the mentioned AI cerebras/btlm-3b as a base for a distributed mind. I look at AI's and it seems so daunting. But I could see training one to recognize voice, one to deal with movement, one to deal with vision, specifically not running into things, and maybe one for instruction on a low level. Like move here, pick up this, etc. If you could get the first part working which I think would be easier, then, work on the higher level stuff as hardware becomes more and more capable. There has, or needs to be, some way to break this down into parts to make the task easier. None of us are going to come up with super computers any time soon. I wish there was more work done on swapping out small AI's to SS drives. It would seem you could use a small AI to determine what specialty AI was needed in memory. And it may be that you could have a small AI index things in memory and draw from the hard drive just like a paging file does now. Some times the robowaifu would slow down and have to "think" but I don't believe that would be the worst thing.

>>33765 > But I could see training one to recognize voice, one to deal with movement, one to deal with vision, specifically not running into things, and maybe one for instruction on a low level. Like move here, pick up this, etc If I remember right Mark Tilden referred to this as "horse and rider" setup, where you have a high level program giving direction to a lower level program. The lower level worries about not stepping in a hole, etc while the high level worries about where the pair are going. I too have experienced the boons of separating different functions into different programs/AI. To give a real life example of what you're talking about: my voice recognition AI doesn't like to run in the same program as the image recognition AI. I've experienced some programs running at different speeds, eg: on a raspi takes half a second for the image recognition to run, while the servo program can run like 2 dozen times a second while it is running, and the voice detection pauses the program until words are heard (or a 5 second timeout), so these different speeds/natures of the code requires separation, which in turn requires developing a way to communicate with each each program. >>33746 >Starting Best way to start is looking for a code/library that does what you want (like image recognition), and try tweaking it to fit your needs, like making it interact with other programs eg if an object is recognized in an image, move a servo.

>>33767 >I've experienced some programs running at different speeds Asynchrony is a deep topic in systems engineering for complex 'systems-of-systems' -- which full-blown robowaifus will certainly be in the end. The buffering and test, test, test combo has been the most successful engineering approach to this issue thus far, AFAICT. Just imagine the timing difficulties that had to be surmounted by the men who created and operated the Apollo spacecraft out to the Moon & back! Lol, our problems here are actually much more complicated (by at least a couple orders magnitude)!! :DD Kiwi discussed the desire that >A thread dedicated to man machine relationships may be needed : ( >>33634 ), and I agree. While my guess is that he meant for that thread to primarily be focused on the psychological/social aspects of those relationships, I would argue that the engineering of complex parts of our robowaifu's systems that in any way involve responsiveness or interaction-timing with her Master (or others) is definitely fair game for such a thread. The reason is simple: timing of interactions -- particularly verbal ones -- clearly affects the social perceptions of those (for all parties involved). >tl;dr < If it takes our robowaifus more than half a second to begin to respond to her Master's engagements, then we've waited too long... Cheers. :^) >=== -fmt, prose edit

>>33746 https://www.eecs.mit.edu/academics/undergraduate-programs/curriculum/6-2-electrical-engineering-and-computer-science/ https://eecsis.mit.edu/numbering.html

>>33905 Thanks, Anon. Nice degree programs. And at least one version of many of these lectures are available online! Cheers. :^)

Emojitroon tried to kill Dup yesterday. Dup said Yakuza will be his vice president.

>>206887 mm wunderschön danke

https://lolcow.farm/meta/res/45929.html It seems that any place frequented by Emojitroon and Nuzach ends up having cp spammed and threads derailed.

Emojitroon is crazy, he himself is depressed, he is working at McDonald's. Stop being gay, Emoji, and stop trying to make other people gay. https://archive.ph/8JTB1#341764 https://archive.ph/h7QIg#152847 https://archive.ph/PFglb#152846

>>257962 Emoji said you did it, Yakuza.

low iq*

>>33888 Okay I don't want to keep going endlessly but if the problem is that the its expensive to train. Should someone come up with a better AI or should the hardware be made cheaper and better? It may be the case that there might be a better way but maybe there isn't. In the case of crypto they went back and forth over the blockchain trilemma but at the end nobody was able to come up with something that was addressed its shortcomings, as an example. The training would also have to be narrowed down, but as it is, its a hardware problem and a lot of work ahead.

>>33889 Well ideally its supposed to be a dialogue between two people. The blockchain trilemma may have nothing to do with ai. I wonder if there is a triangle for this... I'm not sure I think that's what a platonic triad is.

>>33892 I cheated just now and asked gemini I guess but it sounds about right. efficiency, reliability and adaptability. Current ai is very inefficient, it is somewhat reliable but kind of sucks at math in my opinion, not sure how adaptable it is.

>>33893 for me its the triforce

>>33886 >>33888 We've both already warned you to keep your sexbot discussions strictly to the ecchi-containment thread, Peteblank. You're still BOS, BTW, b/c of your continual abuse of Anons in this community. Consider this your final warning. If you mention sexbots out-of-context again, your posts will be unceremoniously baleeted, and don't try any niggerlicious "Ohh! I'm teh poor widdle victim!111!!ONE!" afterward, no one here gives a sh*te. You and you alone have created the mess you're in with us here. :DD

>>9740 Woke slop incoming.

>>9740 >Chris Rothschild vs Wesker Gates <Just to see how many niggers get buck broken OOOOOOYYYYY

>>9947 >HEY I'M JUSTIN I wish he made more racist video game nerd and went back to messing with cinemassacre truthers more, freakin' yid.

>>9947 >>9950 I miss the Slobwave era already.

>>9952 All that work and Justin is literally a slave to Big Ryan and James, /ourkike/ deserves better. Imagine how much better /v/ would have been on 8chan if he's been the jew in charge.

>>33797 Lol, I can't leave these as active hotlinks, Grommet. :D >I think it would be great to have a foxgirl. Certainly kemonomimi fans like Gunship would be very appreciative if you created these foxgrill robowaifus you speak of. :^)

>>33798 >Lol, I can't leave these as active hotlinks HAha the MSIADG, well it so perverted, but the Hiraeth one. It's not bad it's a great story. It has some racy moments but it;s a lot more than that. The guy who wrote it is really talented but most of his stories are WAY more...off.

>>33797 >Foxgirls! Put a little Senko in my Atri for a foxy Atri! >Buying Foxgirls I'm fully supportive of buying and selling robot girls of all kinds for all reasons. They're cute appliances after all! Those stories made me sad, commodifying and objectifying living girls feels wrong.

>>33369 Interesting. Thanks. The first one is hard to distinct from some cosplay or other dress up. But, maybe ask for bigger eyes next time. >>33477 Nice. I never tried myself getting a lot of drawings from AI. The ones I got were mostly or all accidents.

>>3602 True. /christmas/ moved to Trashchan, BTW. We're still having the annual party there.

>>3604 >It's a motherfucking honeypot. It certainly is. I have no idea what kind of evil 'ol Luggage Lad got into before he stabbed everyone in the back & departed abruptly, but Cuckchan it was already at the 2nd exodus, and Cuckchan it remains today. Avoid posting there.

>>3377 consumes a lot of RAM not super useful unless you are being actively targeted by some group (like Snowden)

>>3377 Developed by a feminist femoid. Built upon Linux and GNU niggershit written by soyboy trannies. >>3378 BASED!

Based if you're a schizo running a darknet drug market. For everyone else Mac is fine.

>>3431 this >>3578 also this

fucking trash like every other linux OS

this site sucks

literally no reason to use an encrypted email service unless your end user is also using that service, even then protonmail can still read your messages and has cooperated with law enforcement. If you want true privacy you need to be anonymous. Use a burner email on a vpn or tor, use pgp in that even if you're trying to go super crazy.

Sorry janny, didn't realize you want this shit spoilered. Will do so going forward

Not sure if this belongs in this thread but it is biology related and it is cool. https://digitalcommons.fairfield.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1294&context=engineering-facultypubs Magnetotaxis as a Means for Nanofabrication >Magnetotactic bacteria (MTB), discovered in early 1970s contain single-domain crystals of magnetite (Fe3O4) called magnetosomes that tend to form a chain like structure from the proximal to the distal pole along the long axis of the cell. The ability of these bacteria to sense the magnetic field for displacement, also called magnetotaxis, arises from the magnetic dipole moment of this chain of magnetosomes. In aquatic habitats, these organisms sense the geomagnetic field and traverse the oxic-anoxic interface for optimal oxygen concentration along the field lines. Here we report an elegant use of MTB where magnetotaxis of Magnetospirillum magneticum (classified as AMB-1) could be utilized for controlled navigation over a semiconductor substrate for selective deposition. We examined 50mm long coils made out of 18AWG and 20AWG copper conductors having diameters of 5mm, 10mm and 20mm for magnetic field intensity and heat generation. Based on the COMSOL simulations and experimental data, it is recognized that a compound semiconductor manufacturing technology involving bacterial carriers and carbon-based materials such as graphene and carbon nanotubes would be a desirable choice in the future.

>>31589 >these organisms sense the geomagnetic field and traverse the oxic-anoxic interface for optimal oxygen concentration along the field lines. That's amazingly-interesting. BTW, I wasn't even aware that oxygen molecules would congregate there. Some type of oxygen ions interacting with the field lines I suppose? Thanks, Ribose! >=== -minor edit

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/robot-mushroom-biohybrid-robotics-cornell-b2610411.html https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/scirobotics.adk8019 >Many biohybrid robots are powered by animal or plant cells, which are sensitive to specific culture procedures and limited to short life spans. In contrast, fungi can be easily cultured and are robust in extreme conditions. Taking advantage of fungal mycelia’s natural light sensitivity, Mishra et al. developed an electrical interface to both house the mycelia and measure their electrophysiological action potentials. A control model was then developed to use the rhythmic voltage spikes from the living mycelia to control the locomotion of both a soft starfish-inspired robot and a wheeled robot. Robot trajectories could be altered by stimulating the mycelia with ultraviolet light. —Melisa Yashinski

https://techxplore.com/news/2024-10-biohybrid-robot-motor-neurons-cardiomyocytes.amp >A combined team of bio researchers and roboticists from Brigham and Women's Hospital, in the U.S., and the iPrint Institute, in Switzerland, has developed a tiny swimming robot using human motor neurons and cardiomyocytes grown to emulate muscle tissue.

>>33869 >>33870 Very neat! Ribose, is that you? :D Sometimes I wonder if SCIENCE! has gone too far we can possibly accelerate! these things? :^)

>>9868 That was the impression I was under too.

>>2467 A master move by the almighty Kojima. >>7025 <Drawn by the guido who ended up drinking the kool-aids just to remain relevant How long until he sends DMCA to anyone who archived his shit because of "don't wanna' attract da chuds"?

>>2480 Obvious necropost but MGS clearly had its long term negative ramifications on gaming.

>>9946 Ruined a whole generation of console generations.

>>9948 It depressing because MGS's other creative director made it very thought provoking and pointed out the (((patriots))) plans, and yet today we live in a literal dystopia and can do nothing about it. It sucks that MGS's main legacy is kojewma's shitty hroywood cocksucking

>>33799 >I hope there are some kinds of lab reports Plenty. They've been around over fifty years. I have a 44 year old fiberglass boat and it's fine, sort of. I'm working on it, or supposed to be. I have the most heretical ideas about how to make killer sailboats.

>>33796 Polyester resin is very hard. Says 70-90D shore hardness. That's as hard as it gets. Ideally the skin should be somewhere in the A range cause if its too soft then it might stretch and break. Maybe A30. 3d printer tpu is a85-98 around. There is 60a ninja flex but that is too expensive and rare. But I'd be willing to settle for that. There are 60a tpe dolls but those are considered hard and less desirable. Silicon rubber is the best I can think of. Making the molds and getting right is more work initially but afterwards it might not be as bad.

>>33854 Thanks for that feedback, Anon. >Ninja Flex I'm actually considering trying that in a good printer. >Making the molds and getting right is more work initially but afterwards it might not be as bad. True. We actually have a Plastics thread : ( >>108 ), that would be a good place for discussing this topic in depth. This was one of our OG threads loaded with great information that -- unfortunately -- hasn't been fully-migrated yet, since I could never figure out how to automate posting here. :/

>>33854 >Polyester resin is very hard You're missing the over all idea. It being hard and durable is good, not bad. One-we, or I, want something inert and non toxic two- we, or I want, something that will not easily collect yucky stuff and is easy to wash off if it does. three- You confuse the hardness of the material with pliability and the flexibility of chain mail. Chain mail made of metal is hard, but not hard to the touch. If the links are small, they are very slinky, smooth and flexible as long as the "underlying" structure is pliable.

tor is a honeypot. telegram being compromised is public knowledge by now so only a fool would continue to use it for anything the establishment would consider suspicious.

What about signal and tox?

jmp has a relay to wider phone protocol, meaning the possibility of xmpp taking over is real. I think it's one of the most interesting services to date.

>>3594 >tor is a honeypot. Simply not true. But you have to understand the nature of the protocol, recognize the communities -- both good & evil -- surrounding it's use, and plan accordingly. For the sweet spot of it's proper use, it simply can't be beat.

>>3600 I agree but remember if your ip ever gets linked back to something you didn't do and the feds find you got tor its basically an excuse to wreck your house and take your shit. This is why good opsec is a must.

>That's fair. I should have asked: what's known or believed about the "right way" to build robowaifus, and what constraints does that impose on how they're developed? Heh, I'm pretty sure that we're all just making up the rules as we go along here, Anon. Back in Orville & Wilbur's day, I believe they used to just call that "flying by the seat of your pants". :^) >tl;dr I guess we'll know most 'requirements & constraints' once we've gotten through delivering the first Model A robowaifu kits. For a brief synopsis of some domains of interest involved with a good outcome, you might refer to this post to Anon : ( >>33755 ). >In my case, I need backpropagation, which necessitates keeping track of a computation graph, which necessitates the Variable-Function-Module style of development. I believe I'll eventually need asynchronous distributed systems for data & configuration management, which necessitates redundancy, replicability, and recovery, which necessitate something like a Streams-Databases-Controllers style of development. For synchronous distributed systems, which I don't see a need for right now, I'd add REST to the list, which necessitates serializable interfaces & stateless implementations. There are other more generic requirements, but any modern programming language should be able to handle those, so I wouldn't need to implement anything to handle them. Sound amazing, actually. I wish you good success with each of your requirements! I actually plan to integrate some REST capabilities in RW Foundations, primarily to simplify messaging to the robowaifu's Master/support home networks for offloading computation on-premises. As you might imagine, safety & security are important topics for any such arrangement. >It could also be that different aspects of robowaifus should be built in different ways, but I think it's still worth listing them out. It might be worthwhile to have different "core" modules for each required style of development. Cognition might require backpropagation, data & configuration management might require redundancy-replicability-recovery, robotic control might require something analogous to what Unreal Engine does (whatever that is). Certainly the heterogenous development approach has been the norm for almost all big systems of today, and perhaps it will be so in this case. While the big tent of C++ code is the ideal as a target design-goal, the realworld will likely necessitate other software somehow architected to work together with RW Foundations during the next several years, I imagine. Hard- and soft-realtime requirements are the big performance constraint, however, for a realworld robowaifu living at home with her Master. Most other approaches will likely not match up to that need (and integration with foreign systems only exacerbates this problem significantly). C++ can & will meet that need. I'm not pretending that this is the one perfect, best way (it's not of course, since no language is perfect) -- but in my studied opinion this is as close as we all can get ATM, all things being considered. Blender is probably one of the best FOSS concept-proof examples of this today: a huge, highly-complex, high-performance system incrementally developed over year's time as C => C++ , even while integrating other external libraries (also almost always written in C and/or C++). So, our ideal here can be done. :^) >(I'm going to be out for the next few weeks for my annual horse cult affairs. I'll probably check in at nights, but I'll be slow to respond, and I don't expect to make any dev progress until that's over.) Haha, have fun CyberPonk! Give my love to Derpy o.O :D Stay safe and look forward to hearing from you when you get back. Cheers, Anon. :^) >===

>>33760 That's a good list, and as you suggested, Blender does a lot of relevant things to support high performance, hard and soft realtime requirements, and heterogeneous development. Blender is somewhat-well documented too. On that chance that you haven't seen it, Blender's design docs https://developer.blender.org/docs/features/ might be useful for anticipating solutions to a lot of problems and for figuring out what design patterns are worth investigating. There's a lot of good information there.

>>33843 >Blender does a lot of relevant things to support high performance, hard and soft realtime requirements, and heterogeneous development. Not sure what you mean about realtime in Blender's case, but otherwise fair enough. It's a remarkable system today! :^) >Blender's design docs I've seen these in the past, but since I stopped actively building Blender 2-3 years ago, I kind of let it slip my mind. So thanks for the reminder. I personally like Blender's documentation efforts, though I've heard some disagree. Not-uncommonly, this is one of those tasks that get pushed to the 'back burner', and is often left to volunteer work to accomplish. Given the breadth & scope of the platform, I'd say the Blender Foundation has done a yeoman's job at the doco work, overall. Very passable. <---> Also, reading that link reminded me of USD. NVIDIA is currently offering developers their version of free training on this topic, and I've been pondering if I can make the time to attend. A huge amount of the DCC industry has come together to cooperate on Pixar's little baby, and today it's a big, sprawling system. Why it's of interest to us here is that most of what a robowaifu will need to do to analyze and construct models of her 'world' is already accounted for inside this system. While there are plenty of other (often higher-speed) ways to accomplish the same (or nearly the same) tasks, the fact that USD has become such a juggernaut, with a highly-regimented approach to scene descriptions, and with such broad approval, improves the likelihood IMO that other Anons from the film & related industries may in fact be able to help us here once they discover robowaifus in the future -- if we're already using USD to describe her world and the things within it. I hope all that made sense, Anon. https://openusd.org/release/glossary.html# >===

>>33845 >Not sure what you mean about realtime in Blender's case This page looks relevant: https://developer.blender.org/docs/features/cycles/render_scheduling/ Blender does progressive rendering, which starts by rendering low-resolution frames. If there's extra time left over before a frame needs to be rendered, it generates more samples to generate a higher-resolution frame. The equivalent for video generation at a fixed framerate would be running a small number of denoising steps for the next frame, and running additional denoising steps if the next frame doesn't need to be rendered yet. For text generation at a fixed token rate, it would be equivalent to doing speculative decoding for the initial response, then using (maybe progressively) larger models if the next token doesn't need to be output yet. For a cognitive architecture with a fixed response rate, I think the equivalent would be generating an initial response, then continually refining the response based on self-evaluations & feedback from other modules until the the response needs to be output. >USD Very nice. I hadn't heard of this. It looks like a goldmine of information. Your explanation does make sense, and it's a great example of the sort of design patterns that I expect would be useful, in this case for modeling the environment & context.

>>33850 OK good point, CyberPonk. Such UX optimizations can fairly be said to be in the domain of soft-realtime. And certainly, integrating GPU processing code into the system to speed the rendering processes of Cycles & EEVEE has had major positive impacts. I personally think the fact that Ton chose to create the entire GUI for Blender in OpenGL all those years ago has had many far-reaching effects, not the least of which is general responsiveness of the system overall (especially as it has rapidly grown in complexity over the last few years). <---> >It looks like a goldmine of information Glad you like it! It's fairly easy to overlook that describing a scene is in fact a very-complex, nuanced, and -- I'm going to say it -- human undertaking. And when you consider that task from the deeply-technical aspect that USD (and we here) need to accommodate, then you wind up with quite a myriad of seeming-odd-juxtapositions. Until D*sney got their claws into it, Pixar was a one-of-a-kind studio, and well up to such a complicated engineering effort. I doubt they could do it as well today. If at all. DEI DIE to the rescue!111!!ONE! :D Cheers, Anon. :^) >=== -fmt, minor, funpost edit

>>33853 Anon, I'm going to make an """executive decision""", and move your post here into the ecchi-containment bread. It will fit better here, and will be less-intrusive for engineers at work. <---> So, have you begun any design work towards your snusnu-bot goals, Anon? Surely you've got a leg up over the rest of us who are attempting to fashion realworld waifus, since your problemspace is basically limited mostly to just a 'deadfish' body that doesn't need be much more than a technical sculpture? What about software, any progress on your part with that side of the house? You mentioned a model, have you set it up and begun working with that yet? What about controlling the actuators, the batteries, and the vision? Those are all areas she would benefit from too. --- P.S. If your conversation is first-and-foremost about sexbots, then please keep your posts about that contained ITT. TIA, Anon. Cheers. :^)

>>33855 I've made a robot head with skin and talked to the head and you banned me.

>>33856 >conflating building a robo head with being banned Lol. If we ban someone here today it's generally for a good reason. OTOH, if it was something related to the era of one of our former mods, then maybe. If so, then my apologies Anon. <---> Just post the head again would be my recommendation. Please keep in mind we are a SFW board (please see rule #1 : >>3 ). If it's on-topic with the board but ecchi, the please a) spoiler-it, and b) keep it ITT if it's primarily about sexbots/etc. topics. Thanks, Anon. Cheers. :^)

>>33856 Peteblank, you were banned for berating others to only work on sexbots, for refusing to keep your posts relevant to the threads they were in, and for generally being rude. You were given ample warnings about this. To feign ignorance and imply your robot head project was in anyways related your banning is dishonest at best. I'm willing to forget all of it so long as you keep your sexbot talk here, where it's relevant. Refrain from derailing threads in from now on. You must also not be rude going forward. I wish you luck in your endeavor, I truly hope you can find a way to make the sexbots you desire and sell them. I do not want any part of it though.

>>33863 Heh, thanks Kiwi! You're a really good leader, BTW. Cheers. :^)

>>211047 sus

>>211063 >TheGatorGamertime is the true savior of the white race I agree and concur with whichever jew wrote this, they better fear the firstfag.

>>211063 Fringe site no one has heard of named the Poast. Wake me when anyone real cares.

>>211500 Daniel has threatened to sue at least 2 of these outlets. Pretty sure he cares.

KING ESOTERIC SHAGGYISM HAS RETURNED TO CALL OUT sweaty gamer DANIEL STEVENS https://x.com/EsoShaggy/status/1840498369438863375

>>168 Thank you. Will be giving it a read.

Thank you bro, now that I am writing this comment, the Islamic government is killing Iranian people, I hope I can help my people with this guide.

Holy based.

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An interesting idea that could be useful Making a 3D printer into a 2D plotter with G-code Generating Gcode from normal Images https://www.reddit.com/r/ender3/comments/1f6b75a/update_generating_gcode_from_normal_images/?chainedPosts=t3_15i2rr0%2Ct3_15xq6j7 https://github.com/IridiumIO/Polycut I could see this being useful for making stencils. I have this idea of making skin from NASA's flexible armor. To get the best results you need high resolution. You could print a stencil with ink, place over a plate coated with 3D resin and then put in the sun to cure the uncovered portions, building structures by layer. Slow to do but cheap because you don't need two machines.

I was looking into Joule thief circuits and came across a site where a guy claimed he somehow put out 8x as much power as the input with a few small modifications to the circuit: https://www.homemade-circuits.com/8x-overunity-circuit-using-joule-thief/ I haven't tested it yet myself, but I'd be happy if it was just a more efficient version of the regular circuit.

A website to help you develop your own cycloid actuators. https://mevirtuoso.com/cycloidal-drive/

>>33836 Very cool, thanks Light! BTW, if I haven't greeted you before, then welcome! Cheers. :^)

>>33836 Very nice. Thanks.

>>255956 i wonder if he is a discordfaggot, bickers he seems to stay on his phone for hours without end https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckeLmBA8EOM

Based OP for not only bringing an oldschool lolcow but also for making Jewzach/Esoshaggism seethe.

I hope you guys archive this bickers he posted three funny videos and says he is being hospitalized https://youtu.be/EBdVL6L_Au8?si=E1F9m-qWnT1pRXtn

>>256775 He is incapable of committing to anything. He says he's going to kill himself, delete his channel or go into hospital and within a few hours he's back on various social media sites wanting attention. The best way to manipulate him is to pretend to be a goth thot who love his cocks btw. https://web.archive.org/web/20240918113111/https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=KzOZEQfwJtA https://web.archive.org/web/20240918113422/https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=rmuxqp7p9R0 https://web.archive.org/web/20240918113522/https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=rkysDjwCh_E

he keeps posting more and more videos coping about being some weird loser with Low IQ

Maybe semi-2D is the answer. Our love is 2D, so maybe we should bring 2D to us.

>Related: 2.5D robotics >>31835 (Didn't watch the videos) I had it on my mind several times to work on something like this. But decided eventually against it. It would be useful for those with less money and those who want something more similar to 2D. Yeah, obviously it could be just a box with computer and audio, holding the batteries and some servos, moving some parts around. I'd use sideway sliders and rotation. The head might need to be a bit thicker, to hold the mechanisms for facial expression. I also want to mention, I just scrolled by a video about 3D printing pictures in color.

>>14180 Great thinking, MeidoDev! How are you doing, Anon? You still here with us bro? Cheers. :^) >>31853 Good points, NoidoDev. Thanks! :^) >=== -add'l resp

>>9016 >Hope papercraft-waifu Anon finds us again I did, and I will keep posting, even if we need to move sites again. Forgot about paper for a bit as I focused on 3D printing. Actively contemplating 2.5D paper based robotics. Just picked up a laminator. Now, I just need to make some quick sketches to try it out. 3D can't capture the likeness of anime girls correctly. It always comes out uncanny. A compromised mess. See picrel, 2D is clearly more aesthetically pleasing. Part of it is I am terrible at modeling faces.

>>33826 WOOHOO!! Great news, glad you did, Anon! I'm actively working to create a papercraft wifu shell around the endoskellington of my waifu designs. It's simply the cheapest and most-effective approach for prototyping rn. A little shellac + LARPfoam, and voilà! Insta robowaifu snuggles. Cheers, Kiwi. :^)

>>237253 rip

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>>127594 hi brandon

>>33718 Well, I'm just working on the robot-y bits. When I eventually (and hopefully) release SPUD it is none of my business what sort of /clang bits you decide to mod in there :D Since local document integration into an LLM seems kinda weird and hinky I figured I'd just brew up my own using some basic loops. Eventually (like with the screenface) I'll have the code scan through the entire directory so you can scan multiple files just by drag/drop. There's a few diagnostic print bits in the function you'll probably want to comment out. Eventually will set up voice commands to trigger memory by asking for words "do you remember xyz" then do a document scan of the chatlogs for xyz. Could even trigger different files with different commands like "do you remember blah blah about robotics" could trigger searching "robotics.txt" for blah blah or "do you remember blah blah about anime" triggers searching "anime.txt" for blah blah. Send that to the AI and ask for it to summarize/respond to it in character. This way there can be both long-term and short-term memory and -like people- it won't be perfect :3

>>33735 I really like your coding style, Anon. Good naming, good comments, sensible logic flow. Keep up the great work, Mechnomancer! Cheers. :^) >and -like people- it won't be perfect :3 Lol, true. We've had this discussion here more than once. In the case of Chii, for example, her naïveté early on in her life with Hideki is big part of her robowaifu'y charm. :D

>>33739 The style is as much for my sanity as it is for others :D Fitted Spud's hoodie vest to her figure a bit more, makes her look more squish and approachable :3 I'll have to see about modifying that ol' morphsuit into a vest sort of thing so her Alita-esque arm panels don't get covered and put in some padding to make the squish. Also printed some new clavicles (more curved) and turned the old one's into neck-tendon-lookin things. I like neck definition I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Also extended the keyway on the chonky servos and printed more compact shoulder servo horn hubs so the shoulders are a more feminine width .

>>33782 Clothing really does make a major improvement in how huggable she looks.

>>33782 >Also printed some new clavicles (more curved) and turned the old one's into neck-tendon-lookin things. They look great, Mechnomancer. SPUD's really coming along nicely! > I like neck definition I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Me too. I personally consider the neck to be actually part of the face in my modelling (well, the head, certainly. Good work, Anon. Keep it up! Cheers. :^)

>>9121 Gamecube broke them.

>>9123 Physically or mentally?

>>9135 Both. Literally.

>>5988 AND THE WII U HAD NOTHING WORTHWHILE IT'S EITHER A TECH DEMO SOLD FOR 50 USD OR THE EXCLUSIVES WOULD LATER BE PORTED FOR THE SWITCH, YOU'RE NOT MISSING MUCH, EVEN THE VIRTUALBOY IS A LOT MORE INTERESTING Also the console itself is literally rotting, like its insides are corroding, scalpers got fucked over again.

>>9123 Still remember enjoying Gamecube and Wii, even the Wii U had sime fun games, the soytch sucks ass though.

>>245023 Wow, he is dabbing on jcaesar187 and EsoFaggism while making big money!

Pissdon is back and no only trying to make money as grifter but also coping about being a a middle-aged nihilistic manchild from gen x (Just like mister metokur and so many others) https://youtu.be/cfAHU44QLp4?si=uz6v01YhO5KJPoML

Lol this is the only place of the internet exposing this piece of shit. Plus he is a mutt.

I got banned from his telegram group for talking about him promoting the VAX. I guess he doesn't want anyone knowing that since he is grifting "far-right" dudes again.

This faggot is still around, sad.

When you read or quote the old testament, pay attention and think about just where that came from. Is it GOD, or a god.

>>32800 >I'm not sure you do. I'm pretty sure I understand the claim you're espousing, Grommet. I've certainly heard it plenty of times before. I simply don't agree with that interpretation of the scriptures. God will indeed fulfill all his promises to Abraham, regarding the land & his descendants. During the so-called 'Millennial Reign' of the returned Jesus here on the Earth, then the legitimate descendants of Abraham -- those still in their natural flesh (though not us returned Christians [we will then be in our new glorified bodies, going among all the natural men; serving as kings & priests under our great King & Lord God Jesus Christ]) -- will walk out all those promises made to Abraham thousands of years earlier. Then the end of that 1Kyr era will come, the entire universe will be consumed in a fervent heat, the Great White Throne judgement will occur where the 'books will be opened' & the damned will all be judged. Every last one. By the close of that phase of God's acts, Satan and all his followers will have been thrown into the lake of fire that burns forever (Gehenna, in the Biblical Greek). This will mark the end (for all eternity) of the influence of evil running loose. All who rejected God's salvation will be put away & for good. It.will.be.permanent. <---> AND THEN the great & glorious new phase of God's creations will begin!!! New Heavens, New Earth, New Jerusalem. God with Man. Forever. [1][2] OH GLORIOUS DAY! That's when all the real fun so many Anons are longing for begins! :DDD

>>32802 > I've certainly heard it many times before. I simply don't agree with that interpretation of the scripture. sigh... Oh well, I won't any more.

>>32811 >Oh well, I won't any more. correction...Oh well, I won't mention it any more.

John Lennox is an eminent Christian thinker & science apologist, a Professor of Mathematics at Oxford University. In this clip he forecasts robowaifus. He briefly considers Free Will, Justice, & Provision. I can't personally say much about this channel or it's host (not knowing them), but I can highly-recommend John Lennox in general (whom I've studied for years). I'm concerned that he's bought into the (((official narrative))) on the holohoax, but regardless, he uses the anecdote correctly in this context. Lennox's segment ends at 7:57, but YT no longer supports using the '&end=777' directive, apologies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXYP37p6oT4&start=89&end=777 >the original source talk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9scK_xKfWM8 >an even earlier mention of robowaifus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0xyapiZ2pM >=== -rm misstated talk date

>>9871 >What so bad and debilitating happened? Jews.

>>9866 Nigger samurai wuz the only real samurai, the japenise wuz rul'd by nigger peoplez!

>>9855 millions must crosspost

>>9864 With a team like this, you can't exactly expect quality results. >>9865 Adria Richards?

>>9943 The future of gaming, here is why that is a good thing.

>>33581 Horsona chatbot library updates: - I added support for "multi-LLMs" for better concurrency. These wrap multiple other LLM APIs, and they call the most expedient underlying LLM (based on recent calls, token usage, & rate limits) for every query. The rate limits track any arbitrary number of calls & tokens over any arbitrary interval, and multiple rate limits can be set per LLM since they can have per-minute, per-hour, and per-day limits. It handles retries and exponential backoffs as well, switching providers if there's any error, and it removes LLMs from the candidates list if they fail too many times consecutively. For simple usage, it doesn't make much of a difference, but for longer-running tasks that bump up against rate limits, it should give a big performance boost. The API mimics the least common denominator of all of the LLMs it wraps. So if all of the underlying LLMs are compatible with the OpenAI interface, the multi-LLM will be too. - ... Code (a bit ugly... I'll clean it up later): https://github.com/synthbot-anon/horsona/blob/main/src/horsona/llm/multi_engine.py - ... Rate limit implementation (top of the file): https://github.com/synthbot-anon/horsona/blob/main/src/horsona/llm/base_engine.py - ... Example (line 105): https://github.com/synthbot-anon/horsona/blob/main/tests/conftest.py#L105 - I think I figured out how I'm going to implement character cards and other "attachable" modules. The StoryReader returns the context of whatever it's reading as a result, which can be passed to other modules (e.g., the CharacterCard module). This is analogous to how you build pytorch modules. - ... Code example (line 161, cleanup in progress): https://github.com/synthbot-anon/horsona/blob/main/tests/test_reader.py#L161 Unrelated: I spent some time with another PPP developer cleaning up LLM tokenizers to get better pronunciations. The main reason I looked into this was to see why a TTS model might be generalizing poorly, and I think the findings can be generalized. Tokenization makes it very easy to see which parts of data are going to be "well-trained" and "well-utilized". If a token appears frequently in a training dataset, the model will be well-trained on data associated with that token. If a token appears frequently in inferences, the corresponding data will be well-utilized. Creating subtokenizers with a reduced vocabulary is also very easy, and doing so lets you ensure that far more parts of a dataset will be both well-trained and well-utilized without any changes to the dataset or model. Tokenizers are basically compressed, discrete representations of data based on a probability model learned from data. I'm wondering if it's worthwhile to create "semantic" tokenizers that generate an optimized discrete versions of embeddings. The basic flow would be: - Use an embedding model to index some dataset. - Use PCA to align the embedding space to the embedding's array representation. - Discretize the embeddings. - Tokenize the discretization.

>>33710 This is both very encouraging, and highly enlightening CyberPonk. I particularly appreciate your perspective on the benefits of tokenization/sub-tokenization. I will soon begin the text works portions of my own RW Foundations efforts, and this is a helpful idea to me rn. Thanks! :^) I greatly appreciate both your insights & perseverance, and for sharing both here on /robowaifu/ . Cheers. :^) Drive on!

>>33566 >OpenAI 01 appears to provide a fascinating way forward towards cognitive architecture with LLM's. Essentially, it has a spiral of "thoughts" to refine an internal prompt to allow the model to provide a better result. As alluded to in the video, langchain and multi-agent frameworks can accomplish this. Adding RAG, and other enhancements would further bring us closer to real reasoning. Metacognition could be our backdoor into alternative cognition architectures. It's also just good signal to us that we are and where on the right track. There was no fundamental hidden/unknown reason why the big players where not doing this. ---- "Scopes of Thought" An idea I had to try to reduce context length usage is to borrow the idea of scope, where you treat the LLM context as a stack. When doing chain of thought, or solving a sub problem, you make a copy of the current state (KV cache if its a transformer), do the task & then extract the result. Then you load the old state and insert the Task you did and the result of it. Whats nice about this is that future calls and tasks get a simplified context of previous tasks and there results without the context being consumed/polluted. ---- An idea for a de-duplication strategy. Every node (or RAG Q&A pair) should have a simple keyword as a "label". (Mostly single word if possible) Label uniqueness is enforced on nodes. If a request for a new node has the same label a disambiguation process is started. First a choice is made if the existing node is actually related and should be modified instead of making a new node. if not then both nodes will have their labels changed to specify a subcategory. For example we are adding a node for a Person named Jon Doe with a label of JonDoe. But we already have a node for a concept of a Jon Doe. The concept node becomes "concept:JonDoe", and the person becomes "person:JonDoe". Note that the both are still reserving the first part JonDoe, a 3rd JonDoe node would still trigger this process. (There would be a top level keyword table that is a list of all simple label names (without the subsection prefixs)) ----

>>33710 Thanks, Chobitsu. I appreciate seeing your thoughts, even when it's "just" encouragement. It's also nice having someone around that's been at this for as long as I have (since 2014). I'm glad the tokenization philosophizing helped. Are you posting your progress on RW Foundations anywhere? >>33717 >hen doing chain of thought, or solving a sub problem, you make a copy of the current state (KV cache if its a transformer), do the task & then extract the result. Then you load the old state and insert the Task you did and the result of it. Guidance does this. There's an efficient implementation here: https://github.com/sgl-project/sglang It lets you store & retrieve KV caches for recent queries. Some API providers support a (much more) limited version of this as well: https://www.anthropic.com/news/prompt-caching https://ai.google.dev/gemini-api/docs/caching The difficulty in applying this more broadly is that KV caches don't compose. So you can't take a KV cache for query A and a KV cache for query B, then piece them together into a KV cache for query AB. You can use it to continue or branch off from previous inferences, but there's no way to merge the caches of two inferences together. That's a limitation imposed by how the popular text positional encodings work. >I have successfully contacted an author of the YoLLaVA paper and got them to publish the training code Very nice.

>>33732 >>33733 (answer-related)

>>33724 >It seems that the maximum height before significant distortion is 10cm. This is rather tiny. May be effectively a blessing in disguise, Kiwi. If we can keep our component swatch sizes smol, I think that will likely increase the number of Anons in the future (particularly low-income places) that can 'follow along in the fun!' with us here. Ideas? >=== -sp, minor edit

>>33726 Any ideas for connecting these pieces together? I've tried M3 screws but, TPU can stretch around the head.

>>33727 Yes. Print a series of interlocking tabs/flats (for tabs) on the backs of each panel. Print a base ring around her waist (for support) that the first row of interlocked panels go down into. Then progressively build up the next row of interlocked panels, etc. Make sense Kiwi?

>>33728 Could you provide some visual to go with your idea? What I imagine based on your response would still have the issue of the TPU parts stretching out of the connectors.

>>33730 >What I imagine based on your response would still have the issue of the TPU parts stretching out of the connectors. Yes, that would be an issue. I'd suggest experimenting with some non-panel test strips of tabs/flats, with a running series of matched sets that get progressively longer. Then you can just fiddle with them by hand to get a feel of what length will stay secure. Also, you might decide that each flat could use a leading 'guide slot' (kind of like a belt going through it's attached loop to stay snug) the tab could slide down into to keep it nicely secured into that matching flat. Also, you might decide to have a series of rings running up the (torso, say) to provide supports for the rows of panels both above and below. Kind of like Victorian hoop dresses were. As for the basic concept, there are lots of storage bins that have a series of interlocking tabs/flats on the two lid halves. When you close the two halves of the lid, they interlock together (one tab to one flat) and it provides passive rigidity. Also I can't post images while Robi has file posting blocked for Torfags (this is also why I can't bake new breads rn). Sorry. :P >=== -add 'guide slot' cmnt