¨>>4089 yeah, so with movies they have a staff of people but they don't have like 200 to 500 people working on a game. The Diablo 4 end credits is insane to look watch. >>4095 Sometimes they add marketing in there but sometimes they do not even disclouse what they've used on marketing. So diversity hires is a real thing, I don't know if you know that one IGN whore, that later became a twitch streamer and for some reason ended up at Sony Santa Monica studio, her end credit? it was in the latest God of War game, and it had literally nothing to do with anything useful like design, art, programming or sound but handicapped accessibility. I am not shitting on you, this is real life, they are hiring people for made up roles like handicapped accessibility, there have been accessibility but that is more for people that are color blind or something nonsensical. Also, they have allot of talented programmers and artist working on the games today but what takes so long is rather dumb, or retarded. Like because the games are open world or open levels, that means there are going to be allot of unforeseeable glitches, bugs and other random stuff going on.in that open world. Also, don't forget that these games uses allot of random nonsensical technology in the engine that has not really anything to do with gameplay, it is just there because they've said to themselves it is going to be more realistic. And they believe in that nonsense of realism and then forget that their whole game is other than realistic. So there is allot of corruption, nonsensical stuff and diversity hires going on to make the games being more and more expensive. To be fair, there have been people trying to make a classical-like games but they've taken as much time but with the fraction of the people.But you hear Gen Z and other people complaining because it isn't "modern enough" and that is kinda the problem, people expect to have their hands being held at every moment.

>>4110 >they have allot of talented programmers and artist working on the games today then why games look and play like shit

>>4116 >if there are so many programmers, why are games shit? programmers aren't automatically gamers they are nerds but of the other variant that loves fucking around in a graphics demo and still feel an amazement when walking in such a graphics demonstration. >if there are so many artist why is it shit now, that is a better question but the same problem is there with programmers don't mean automatically that games will be games. Like with the fallout games director, he has said that he must remind his writers that games aren't movies. Just think about that for a moment, a games director has to remind his staff theoretically full of gamers that the game is it's own medium. So do not write it as a movie that is linear. Like the problems with vidya is more than just skin deep.Like allot of the artist, there is probably the same problem because they worked before in-house for special effects in movies then came to vidya. You can have all of the programmers in the world but if none of them play or messes with games then they are going to get skeewed view of what is and isn't possible in games as a medium, most of the people that made games in 90s to early 00s where tabletop rpg gamers, so they had a view of what games could become, no that they reached it by the time they made them, and they fall into the same traps of comparing movies to games.

>>4120 A programmer's job is to make the game run well and be well optimized yet most games are neither nowadays. >because they worked before in-house for special effects in movies then came to vidya lolno, they finished the "game design" course in some hack college in pedofornia

>>4123 >A programmer's job is to make the game run well and be well optimized yet most games are neither nowadays. depends on what system, if it's a 3rd party publisher that makes games first on the console then port it over to computers then it is obvious. gamers on PC don't usually pay, so why bother? Also, they only need to be focused that the visual stuff works, and then everything else is second that they functioning. After-all games don't have depth or much mechanics under the hood, which before they believed was a nice thing that would add to the realism to experience of the game. So that is why you have some game developers that uses crowd sims and not scripts for the game to seem realistic, so that they have a role in game world and will do some things daily the problem is that most don't even recognize it. >artist are just people that took game design course some are, but allot of artist are the ones that can model, if not they hire or use 3rd parties to get 3d models from. Like, they know how to model but not program and are learned to program at work, so they aren't a wasted asset in the company. Now, you do have examples of diversity hires that for some reason got hired and the ones that work have to take allot of the workload from them. Games today is bad for many reason, I would say some are bad because the focus is on the wrong thing, some games are good even fun but get overshadowed by other things or games and thus don't get the light of day. Other people are puritans and don't want to play anything that isn't retro, even games that are more or less a love letter to those games but because there is a nigger or a fag, then it is automatically shit even when they didn't play the game.Or they want a pure carbon copy of the same game, over and over again. Then you have people that don't want to try anything new, because of their autism or because games are so expensive that they are afraid of playing anything that is derivation of the original game or games.

>>4120 Remember anons, game devs used to be A: gamers who loved gaming and B: autistic people who wanted to push everything to its limit and to create some really cool shit. Makes sense that now games suck ass, all look the same with "photo-realism" and are shit since they are made by the same trans females of color, yids and 45 year old hags who hate gaming and gamers.

>>4136 >but because there is a nigger or a fag, then it is automatically shit Heh, you even had me going. > 3/10 for ESL and stealth tranny subterfuge

>>4173 based

>>4171 Yes, game developers used to be game developers then you had two minds of thought with game developers one wanted to chase movies, films and tv-series and that sort of experience. The other wanted to bring tabletop gaming to games, and let games be games. What ensued was that because movie-like experience was so much easier to make than a tabletop-like game they just chased that and wrote the game script more and more like a movie script. Before one could say that the difference between games was the genre it was in, today the line between a genre is cut and it is this open world mess with cut-scenes because it is easier to make, and it is easier to sell to a publisher. Also, it doesn't help at all that Microsoft is trying to buy every game publisher because they fucked up during the xbone era with hiring devs then canning games left and right. >>4173 Yeah, because you people forget that there where a niggers in PC games back in the day.

>The court has scrambled to remove the document, but the damage is done; reporters and Sony’s competition have already downloaded all the documents while they were in the public domain. Among other things, the document shows thatHorizon Forbidden Westapparently cost $212 millionover five years with 300 employees, andThe Last of Us Part IIcost $220 million with around 200 employees: >It’s not just how much games cost to make that’s been revealed here, either. Sony says 1 million PlayStation gamers play nothing butCall of Duty. My colleagueSean Hollister has analyzed the document, and it appears to show: >the document suggests CoD was worth $800 million for PlayStation revenue in just the US during 2021 — and we think the document says $1.5 billion globally. And that’s just the game alone, but when you count accessories, subscriptions, and everything else, then that jumps to (what appears to our eyes) to be $15.9 billion a year — or perhaps $13.9 billion. Either way, it’s a huge amount. >How much does Sony share with third-party publishers like Activision? This one’s fuzzy enough we can’t confidently translate it, but the “typical margin” looks like it might be 10 percent? https://archive.is/whudG

>>4329 i really don't get why gaming had to become this bloated clown world monstrosity, it was just a nerd hobby equated to children toys not even 20 years ago...

>>4330 Really? Were you not around for GaymerGay or something? Kikes are dead-set on shoving Current Year down your throats whether you want it or no. Vidya represents a very important demographic: namely (most importantly) wealthy, young, White, men. Prosperous Asian men are also important globally. This is simply too big a threat to the globalist jews (and specifically their WEF 2030 'destroy the current world order' agendas) to ignore.

>>4331 you can cover all the same demographics with just film and television, in anyway why must games cost $800 million to make...

>>4333 Not really, I don't watch television and I don't go to the theater (nor generally use services like netflix, et al). As to the bloat, I already tried to answer you. Kikes (who corner most of the world's money supply, it's effectively endless in supply for them), want you, Mr. White Vidya Man, to swallop their vibrant, diverse, highly-enriched poison of Current Year -- to you and your people's soon demise(tm). Vidya is simply the best way to go at it. >no kikes, vidya was smol, fun -- a work of passion. >with kikes, vidya is yuge, bloated -- a work of brainwashing and destruction. Hope that connection makes sense Anon.

>>4334 you can make game subversive propaganda without $800 million, indieshit costs no money and it's full of niggers and dykes anyway, so where does the money go...

>>4335 >so where does the money go Advertising, diversity hires and paying the upper brass's salary. While yes, most indieshits are stuffed full of niggers, faggots and trannies and are more subversive then AAA trash, indies generally not as visible or appealing to the intended brainwashing targets. What is the average guy more likely to buy: Call of Duty 800 with disabled stronk black lesbian transwomsn and "realistic" graphics or Indieshit the Hipster Adventure with disabled stronk black lesbian transwoman and lowpoly/pixel"art" graphics? Brand recognition and advertising goes a long way to getting your product in the eyes of the public and you don't get either from indieshit.

>>4336 they push indieshit hard now and you can crank out a lot of it, plus there is no pushback against shoving as many niggers and faggots in it as humanly possible. it seems a better way to subverse the media than spending $300 million on a flop...

>>4338 >it seems a better way to subverse the media than spending $300 million on a flop... You're writing as if you're thinking about things as a rational businessman might (and ofc that's a good thing as far as you yourself are concerned). What you're witnessing going on is a >die White Man, die! >you'll eat the bugs >you'll own nothing >stop complaining goyim! -tier, broad-sweeping, organized effort by the globohomo to destroy civilization. It's worth literally billions to these jews to eradicate your literally-Hitler thinking from off the face of the Earth -- and money is no object to them. >tl;dr This isn't a business operation Anon, it's a genocide conspiracy. Who GAF what it costs as long as you and yours go into the hole?

>>4342 Hey, somebody should make a game out of that.

>>4343 They did already Moshe. It already flopped b/c Troons, Niggers, and Stronk, Independynts. We'll come up with a far more compelling sequel to it though: The Battle of Armageddon. :^)

>>4344 Can't wait for the kikes to make their jewish Fairytales reallity with Stolen German technology!

>>4386 Let's say they add, oh, just a wild guess 50 nigras, 100 stronk womyn, and 1'000 troonish cocksuckers. That would be 1'150 diverse vibrants to the product. 2'000'000'000 x 1'150 == a whopping US$1.7 million per enrichment!! Now that's what I call good business.

>>4386 What standards? It's a dumb sanbox game with repetitive missions. Also what, huwhat in fucks name can cost $2 billion in a video game...

The absolute state.

>>4388 >huwhat in fucks name can cost $2 billion in a video game Embezzling, advertising and hiring big name pedophiles Hollywood actors.

>>4401 >hiring big name pedophiles Hollywood actors They hired big actors for classic GTA games as well and those didn't cost billions. It must be the shilling campaign because keep in mind this game is gonna be super woke fake GTA because Hausers and everyone from the old Rockstar left the company.

>>4525 Not to defend Starfield but Redemption ruined Rockstar as a company due to having to butcher 3 studios to finish it. Redemption 2 ruined the fame due to lost of concept and woke gameplay design.

>>4594 It's about the graphics anon.

>>4089 it's all a money laundering scheme

>>4525 >"gamers" are dimb enough to buy into Todds scam Can you entirely blame him anons? I might see how far I can take it as well. I know it is diagusting and jewish to take advantage of the stupid but sometimes I wonder if Todd could be actually makimg good use of that money. he isn't

>>4870 *dumb *disgusting *making

>>4870 Zoomers and normalfags have an attention spam and a memory capacity of a gold fish. They literally forget they just got scammed on Todd's previous game and already open their mouth in the anticipation to spend money on his next scam.

>>4874 Pretty much. I work with someone who's all excited for Todd's space niggers game and preordered the thing despite admitting bethethsda games being pieces of shit that are barely playable, especially on release.

>>4887 There's now an entire generation of zoomers groomed since childhood to be brand loyalist for all these giant globohomo corporations. Kinda sad really.

>>4089 Shills on the internet ain't gonna work for free.

>>6460 Go woke go broke. That being said, I don't expect anything from the west but Forenoggin' was the most embarrassing attempt of japs to try and ride the woke negress bandwagon.

>>6460 Sad thing is they don't care, the goal is to deconstruct and destroy EVERYTHING! It isn't about money, its about control and destruction of the beautiful. Gaming was the last hobby where one could LARP as a hero and be a morally upstanding person, its because of that it had to be destroyed to make way for the new world order, just like the internet its now (((for everyone))). The more I read Evola the more I realize just how important a spiritual elite is, you also begin to realize just how much smarter traditional hobbyist and nerds were from the typical individual and why the kikes decided to destroy our communities when they saw how much of a threat we were during gamergay and 2016. Now gaming may be dead, don't get me wrong its a beaten to dead horse, but its something that can be revived as long as we carry it within our hearts and try to rebuild it. The honest truth is we have to preserve what is good and to continue the creation of quality games. Not that I am sure I'd ever get to any of that due to my terrible time management but I do try, I know the other couple disgruntled anons here also try their best. On another note I love how Diablo 2 was developed by a little over or under 100 people and its widely remembered as a classic but Diablo 4 and Toddfield are already being forgotten. Soul, creativity, if this isn't proof that human beings aren't made equal I don't know what is.

>>6467 POTD >revived, rebuild At the least then, I'd suggest you participate in the Game Jam's on the webring /agdg/ . At the least you'll be making a symbolic gesture to shove it back into the kike's faces. >tl;dr The longest journey begins with the first step -- make it today! Good luck Anon! :)

>>6470 lol

>>6480 I don't make the time to do it anon, first I nees to learn to draw, program, get those rusty animators "skills" in check. I might make a mod for Doom, Quake, one of the Diablo games, you have certainly inspired me. I'm the anon who never finishes what I start, I've started massive projects, gotten a third through some of them, and...never released shit. I really need to just so one fucking thing that isn't shit in my life.

>>6470 ITS OVER Death to arcane, Dishonored was the only okay thing they made and they butchered it after one try.

>>6504 >I really need to just so one fucking thing that isn't shit in my life. Excellent. Really looking forward to seeing your results Anon. Keep moving forward!

>>6507 I'll just keep moving foward, till I can draw like a jap.

>>6509 That's the spirit Anon. Please keep us updated on your progress here. Cheers. :)

>>6505 Yeah they really are the one trick pony.

remember when games were made by 50 people, those were the good times