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Computers Thread Fellow Time Traveler 08/21/2020 (Fri) 04:41:24 No.803
Looks like none of the images in the catalog work. Let's get a fresh thread in here, focused on computers! I don't have pictures at the moment to share, but I got lucky today and picked up a nice big beige computer case. I'm assembling a new personal computer from parts that I got deals on, found in the junk heap, or that I was given by friends. So, I guess it's not really a /retro/ computer, but it will be in a /retro/ case, and I plan to get an adapter which will let me use a 3.5" floppy disk drive in there. The adapter plugs into the floppy pins, and presents a USB interface to the motherboard. That adapter is under $10 USD. In fact, I've seen an adapter card that will do the same but for 5.25" floppy disk drives. So, when I have more money, I should be able to have not only a 3.5" FDD, but a 5.25" FDD in my system, running alongside new solid state drives, Blu-Ray disc drives, and of course a few regular hard drives. It should be pretty fun. Again, no pictures yet but I will share with you guys when I can. For now I'll just post one from my collection. What have you guys been up to?
>So, I guess it's not really a /retro/ computer, but it will be in a /retro/ case, Sounds neat. I was actually thinking about how viable doing something like that would be lately. It seems like it would be hard to find beige accessories to match the case completely like I'd want. I remember thinking that black computers looked cool, but nowadays I'm kind of sick of them and miss the old beige look.
>>812 Yeah I'm tired of black computers too. But most of my things that go in are black. I have a couple blu-ray drives, which are black, and my only floppy drive with a beige front panel is broken, and the panel doesn't fit my working one. So the floppy drive I have in there now is also black. I think I may paint them later on, though. Should be easy to get some satin white or ivory spray paint and paint it yourself.
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Dunno if relevant to the thread but I've always wanted to try a horizontal PC case instead of a vertical one. It looks more practical as both my monitor and case are right in front of me, and the monitor is elevated to be directly in my line of sight while sitting upright... Sadly I never personally found any PC models that supported horizontal placement, I can always build my own but I'll probably mess it up big time as I have no experience with that. A bit of an unpopular opinion: chrome-colored PCs from the 2000s are much sexier than the 90s beige ones.
>>815 Check out the Checkmate A1500 Plus and the Cryorig Taku.
>>815 are you sure about this? I'm pretty certain plenty of PC cases are sturdy enough to support a monitor when they're lying on their side. I can sit on my cases, too. So I'm pretty sure they could handle a monitor, and an LCD? no sweat. Don't really like the images you posted there so much, I'm more of a beige guy myself. My LCD monitor does have a silvery bezel and I like that, but it has a black body behind that. I think a silver bezel with a beige body would be nice. I will say that the Vaio image you posted it really nice though, that one does the color much better than the others IMHO. >>803 Still no pictures to share really, I am struggling to fit a 120mm fan in the back of this case. I am 3d printing parts to get it to sit in there nicely and I'm cutting a bit of sheetmetal as well.
oh shit guys, I might get a C64 soon, I know someone who is getting rid of one. it's in bad condition but I will see if I can fix it!
>>827 Cool. Recently I've got one for relatively cheap at a local store since apparently they couldn't get rid of it (!). Cassette reader was broken tho.
>>827 Even if you can't it makes a good case.
>>828 nice, funny they couldn't get rid of it haha. >>830 Yeah, or even perhaps a keyboard. I think it will probably work, though. These things seem to hold up quite well. only thing is, I don't have my CRT anymore. seems kind of lame to hook it up to an LCD.
>>833 >I don't have my CRT anymore. seems kind of lame to hook it up to an LCD. Yeah, I wish there was a decent replacement for CRTs nowadays. I have some old TVs for playing games on but would probably only keep one if there were a good way of replicating that look straight away.
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Guess what I just got guys...
>>836 Gnarly.
>>837 damn right dude, I got it for free and it cleaned up pretty well. Gonna need a new power supply so that's going to set me back some cash, and I'm out of a job so it'll have to wait a little while. But once I get that I should be in business since it looks like it's in good condition
>>815 Thank you. I just about cried, it's so nolstagic lol
Any /tech/ meets /retro/ lads here? I'm a NEET shit so the only actual "retro" hardware I have is a laptop from 2002 that I got in... 2002. And a bunch of floppies to go with it. Recently I installed OpenBSD on it and used the floppy installer to get the job done, only because all other methods failed. But when it comes to software, that's easier to do. The sheer awesomeness of the first book cover made me pick up 8086 assembly on DOS with that exact book. It's an excellent programming book that I recommend to any programmer, it has a lot of valuable lessons outside assembly for a dead machine and OS. I'm using FreeDOS inside qemu and emulating the text mode with a terminal to get nice font rendering, so the way I'm doing it is not truly period correct, although the experience is much of the same. If I manage to finish this book I'll make something with its knowledge, like write a sudoku game for DOS or something, all in assembly.
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>>878 Yeah, until very recently (lost due to a fire :( also that's why I only have pics of the screen) I owned a beige Powermac G3 with a Macintosh Color Display. This computer really made me appreciate 90s Apple, because without Steve throwing shitfits over the looks they really could design the thing to be as serviceable as possible. Literally, unscrewing only one thing gives you access to every component of the system, the whole computer is divided into sections on hinges, which you can just flip over (like a flipout book) if you want to go deeper, it's truly amazing. The software is still shit though, so I wanted to replace it with NetBSD, but apparently the drive controller on this thing is wonky and just writing the bootsector took half an hour to finish, not to mention random framebuffer glitches. Eh, maybe it's good that it's now gone.... >The sheer awesomeness of the first book cover made me pick up 8086 assembly on DOS Oh fuck, I also wanna get into it. Demoscene and cracktros always looked like so much fun and it can't be that hard, right? I'm not even talking about size competitions, just making some fun stuff move at the screen.
>>882 The hardest part so far has been figuring out the right programs to use on FreeDOS to replace the tools recommended in the book. You can just pirate MS-DOS and Microsoft's programmer tools if that's troublesome. I pirated the book itself from libgen. 8086 assembly looks like C and BASIC had an autistic child, in fact if you know either you already know most of the concepts behind assembly. The book doesn't deal with graphics and sound if you want to do demos, but I doubt any introduction will have those subjects anyway.
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There's a sizable collection available of The Computer Chronicles. https://archive.org/details/computerchronicles?tab=collection
>>892 Oh fuck yeah, thank you! IA is the definition of a goldmine.
So after watching the C-64 episode, it seems that it was still very popular years after it's introduction. WTF happened to it then? Why would the company just pull and then die as a result? Did They kill it or what /retro/?
I watched this BBS documentary series a while ago and found it interesting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dddbe9OuJLU&list=PL7nj3G6Jpv2G6Gp6NvN1kUtQuW8QshBWE
>>899 Basically anything Jason Scott puts out is great. Speaking of /retro/, I think Geocities is still on The Pirate Bay...
>>815 >I can always build my own but Go for it! It's not hard, and a fun project.
>>957 Not him but you're right, projects are great. I haven't been on here in a long time. Think we can revive this place?
>>964 >Think we can revive this place? Not him, but I hope so. Every day I look to see if there's any activity on here and try to do what I can to increase it, even if my posts aren't necessarily all that great.
>>966 Well, the only way to keep this place alive, like any other imageboard, is to browse other retro-oriented forums and to send invites to this place. It's hard to maintain a constant stream of posters when the only people who might even know of the board are those who know of Alogs. Sure, Alogs is indexed on the Search Engine That Must Not Be Named, but I don't really think people go out of their way to look for retro aesthetic websites unless they already know where to look for. Maybe participating in the /icup/ may yield some more publicity.
>>964 No we can't. This site is dead and looks pretty much abandoned. We haven't had a bo in like a year. And the board is in a terrible shape too, there is no way the files will ever get restored. We should have moved to anon.cafe when julay ended to start over.
>>964 >>966 >>967 >>968 >This site is dead and looks pretty much abandoned Its main activity is the most notoriously known board on the webring /cow/ which probably repels anons. I think /sw/ and /ita/ are also quite active, but that's pretty much it, Julay World died a long ago and now Alog.space is just a husk of it. >We should have moved to anon.cafe Considering how it have quite few related boards unlike here, it would be much better choice. Maybe someone can become a BO over there?
>>969 Oh, and in case anyone interested there's 90'-00's nostalgia thread on antares.chan , but it's pretty dead too - http://l2sv2h6eoxdu6y6s.onion/misc/res/617.html
>>966 >>967 >>968 After the board got nuked, and then julay became alog, all that crap, it really killed off this place. Anon.cafe seems alright, maybe we should move there. Not sure. >>969 Yeah that stuff is really weird and I don't even understand what it's about. Looks like anon.cafe might work. What do you guys think? No hate for julay of course but maybe we could move. Then again, how many of us are there? three anons? lol. I doubt there were many posters even when /retro/ was not kill.
>>969 >but that's pretty much it, Julay World died a long ago and now Alog.space is just a husk of it /ita/ here, I must say that it's a sad reality. Robi's an alright admin but this site just doesn't attract many anons because they assume we're all /cow/boys and don't ever look into our threads, outside of maybe some lone wanderer. The overboard is also kind of fucked up. Plenty of unspoilered porn by the three-four obsessed /cow/ users. >>970 Antares' still up? Well I'll be. Not much of a TORpedo, how popular is it? >>971 >Anon.cafe seems alright, maybe we should move there. I would advise against it. Anon Cafe is a great website but it tends to be unstable on a weekly basis. Could it just be my rotten luck but that's how it always feels like. Also apparently they're strapped for space, though if the Fascists leave they could have an open spot.
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You guys would fit right in with the laid-back demeanor of Anoncafe. Just ask the site Admins there for a new board on the /meta/ thread would be my advice. Maybe they can also craft a script of some kind to help you migrate if you choose to as well. Since they both use Lynxchan IB software (and even Robi's frontend code too, by the looks of it) should be pretty straightforward. Also, I have about 1'000 of your files, 1GB in size, scraped together using my archiver program. > I don't have much to offer you guys here on /retro/ but I've enjoyed seeing how the history of computer tech happened though. I wish you all well. >>972 >though if the Fascists leave they could have an open spot. They are gone. Anoncafe Admins deleted the board March 20th, as promised.
>>967 /retro/ does seem kind of out of place being on this site. >>969 How did /cow/ end up declining so much? I lurked /cwc/ back in the 789chan/888chan days, and /cow/ used to feel like a true continuation of those sites. Then after a while they just started focusing on boring streamer personalities instead of funny lolcows, and I ended up parting ways with them. >>971 >this place. Anon.cafe seems alright, maybe we should move there. Not sure. I like that idea. Isn't anon.cafe invisible from the tvchan webring list though? They get a lot of traffic, but I guess a lot of people don't even seem to bother looking at the list of other boards though. >>972 >I would advise against it. Anon Cafe is a great website but it tends to be unstable on a weekly basis. Could it just be my rotten luck but that's how it always feels like. True, but it might be worth the tradeoff. >>974 >Also, I have about 1'000 of your files, 1GB in size, scraped together using my archiver program. Nice.
https://archive.org/details/computes-programming-the-commodore-64-the-definitive-guide-revised-edition Found this book about programming the Commodore 64 which goes from learning BASIC all the way to 6502 assembly, opcodes, and expanding BASIC with assembly. I'm the anon who was doing 8086 assembly on DOS, I ended up dropping the book because the last chapters are very borying copypasta, but it taught me valuable programming lessons and experience.
>>972 I haven't had any issues with anon.cafe in the past few months, but yeah it used to be pretty unstable.
>>972 Robi seems like a good admin. But yes this site is I guess not the best because of what appears to me to be severe autism that is so incomprehensible it borders on the extraterrestrial to me. >>974 I think you're right about the demeanor thing. >>975 Also agreed, /retro/ is the only board on this site I ever use. I tried /tech/ once and some guy just blew up on me about some meaningless thing so I left. >>976 That's pretty cool, I guess I'll download that. I still haven't sourced a new power supply for my C64 so it's still dormant right now
>>975 >I like that idea. Isn't anon.cafe invisible from the tvchan webring list though? Anoncafe had 404'd their webring.json file to help gain cover from the potential shitstorm that evil cakefat asshole on 8moe stirred when (((HBO))) interviewed him. I had the impression they would reenable it if a webring meltdown didn't ensue. >Nice. It's primarily for the benefit of preserving the site, not as entertainment solely for myself.
I'm gonna request a board on anon.cafe again, lets see what happens.
>>979 >Anoncafe had 404'd their webring.json file to help gain cover from the potential shitstorm that evil cakefat asshole on 8moe stirred when (((HBO))) interviewed him. I had the impression they would reenable it if a webring meltdown didn't ensue. Got it. That makes perfect sense. >It's primarily for the benefit of preserving the site, not as entertainment solely for myself. Thanks for doing it either way.
>>982 >Thanks for doing it either way. A pleasure. Just in case you ever need it, drop me a line over in >>>/robowaifu/8492 . I may miss it here or Anoncafe. Cheers /retro/ !
>>981 Good job, it looks like you succeeded.
>>984 Oh shit, nice. I can add volunteers if anyone wants to help out, just make an account on anon.cafe. >>974 Awesome, can you upload it?
>>985 >Awesome, can you upload it? Sure, glad to help. https://anonfiles.com/Gf30i8neu1/retro_210327_7z If you want to rebuild your entire board over at Anoncafe, then I'd just share that with the Admins there and explain your desire. They should have everything they need with that to script with it and populate your new board. Cheers!

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