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The origins of localizations Anonymous 05/19/2023 (Fri) 15:28:27 No.3043

Is it possible that one fucking faggot from California and his company is responsible for this hideous practice of disrespecting the source material? Victor Ireland co-founded Wrecking Designs in 1990, during a time when most English vidya translations were sub-par machine translations mixed with some poor salary man trying his best with what little English knowledge he gained in Japanese high school. They took the western gaming scene by storm with their translations that actually read like proper English. Little did vidya enthusiasts know back then, that this egomaniac faggot didn't just translate the Japanese games he brought over, he actually made them into his own. So imagine this, you want to translate Japanese video games but the translators you hired aren't good enough so what do you do? Just make shit up and insert a bunch of shitty jokes everywhere and call it From former Wrecking Designs translator Tim Trzepacz: >The thing to remember is that Working Designs had really terrible translators until I came along. They were hiring some company out of San Francisco and the translators there didn’t really know English. They could translate the Japanese, but they didn’t really understand what the idiom was they were translating to. And everything was coming out of a spreadsheet so it wasn’t even in context. Japanese is a very context-sensitive language. So to a certain degree [Working Designs co-founder Victor Ireland] had no choice but to make things up as he went, because he had very little to go on. When I came in, I brought in two well-known fan-translators, C. Sue Shambaugh and Richard Kim, who ratcheted up the quality of the translations tremendously. Now things made sense! But by then Victor kinda already had his process down, he liked rewriting it and adding the comedy in. https://archive.md/TPVZX To quote the faggot himself: >Oh this script is really boring, let me put some funny stuff in here. So I would insert funny lines that really had nothing to do with what was going on. And that sort of evolved. I continued doing that, did more of it, and people generally liked it [because] they were seeing writing that they never saw in Japanese-localized or translated games, like ‘Holy crap, this is amazing’. Source https://archive.md/K5cvw Here's one of the most famous examples of localization from Lunar 2 on the Sega CD: >Girlie, if I were in the position to throw away cash on bums, you'd call me Clinton and I'd be president. I can't find the Japanese line online and I don't feel like searching through the Japanese script, but I assure you it's probably not a shitty Clinton joke. If you want more examples of "localization" just check out these articles: https://archive.md/o/238P9/https://tcrf.net/Lunar:_The_Silver_Star%23Regional_Differences https://archive.md/o/238P9/https://tcrf.net/Lunar:_Eternal_Blue/Regional_Differences Wrecking Designs is also notorious for implementing various gameplay changes (which I'm glad most localizers didn't follow the example of) which they apparently did to combat people abusing store return systems, by beating games very quickly and then returning them to the store. This is mostly hearsay, so it could just be that Victor is a faggot that doesn't just want to rewrite "his games", he wants to redesign them as well. Anyhow, the commercial success of the localizations by Wrecking Designs influenced Japanese developers and vidya translators to follow suit and start localizing their games as well. This gave birth to glorious localizations like Persona 1 and the Ace Attorney series. At the turn of the century localizations started petering out due to various forms of criticism against these types of botched translations (most likely because of the Internet becoming more available). Things went mostly okay until the great decline of 2007 when vidya became mainstream. Now most Japanese games brought over have some form of localization in them ranging from shitty meme jokes to cut content in the name of making things more "palatable for western audiences". We still get the occasional non localized Japanese games like the Legend of Heroes series, Nier Automata and Persona 5. Sadly it has also spread to animu after the death of fansubbing, with localized Crunchyroll memesubs dominating the subtitle market. So what happened to Wrecking Designs and that faggot? Well Wrecking Designs died in 2006 and came back as Gaijinworks which hasn't really localized much except for Miami Law, Class of Heroes and Summon Night 5 & 6. Their glory days are long gone, but the damage they did to vidya still lingers to this day. What do you think the future will bring us when it comes to vidya translations and the horrors of localizations?

Anonymous 05/19/2023 (Fri) 15:32:05 No.3044

A reminder to learn nipponese.

Anonymous 05/19/2023 (Fri) 22:16:49 No.3047

>>3043 >What do you think the future will bring us when it comes to vidya translations and the horrors of localizations? Hard to say how bad it'll get before or even if it gets better. We've already been seeing "localizers" literally making shit up for years. The infamous Fire Emblem thing where the two ninjas are just '...'ing at each other, but in the jap version they're actually having a conversation comes to mind. My guess is we'll be seeing entire script rewrites that have nothing to do with the original story eventually. Just assume every game is compromised until proven otherwise and pirate accordingly.

Anonymous 05/19/2023 (Fri) 22:30:30 No.3049

>>3047 Globohomo is getting extremely vitriol as of late. Just look at something like the Yidsney CGI remakes, at first they were just generic studio flicks with one nigger somewhere in the background; now they're mad with seethe, rewriting everything, changing literally everyone to niggers, doing anything to spite the straight white man. That is the future of all western media. In gaming terms look at Forespoken, an equivalent of a Yidsney remake. And what is a localization if not a remake of a script to them.

Anonymous 05/20/2023 (Sat) 02:36:21 No.3054

>>3044 This. However, AI will literally destroy loocalizers completely, their time is up.

Anonymous 05/20/2023 (Sat) 08:56:37 No.3061

>>3054 It will not because AI will be outlawed soon and only corporation will be allowed to use it. Even if they will replace loocalizers with it, they will tune it to be just as bad.

Anonymous 05/25/2023 (Thu) 21:04:34 No.3241

>>3043 why was this allowed?

Anonymous 05/26/2023 (Fri) 07:53:51 No.3250

So this is the reason my nepu nepu was butchered?

Anonymous 05/26/2023 (Fri) 08:30:22 No.3256

>>3250 What happened there?

Anonymous 05/26/2023 (Fri) 08:40:01 No.3257

>>3256 NISA america raped nepu nepu dub and subs with retarded gay memes and (((Americanization))) bullshit. I know most anons don't care and hate dubs but I try them every now and than just to see how they are and to see how they turned my nepu nepu from her cute genki girl self into a meme spouter with no other personality compared to her true self was kinda sad tbh. It was also annoying how much they raped the subs and when Idea factory told NISA to fuck off with their gay esjaydoubleUU shit and made their own thing NISA removed gust and Nisa herself from the games forevermore. On top of all this all the retarded (((localizers))) moved to IDEA factory international and ruined every other Nepuntia dub/subs until Megadimension Neptune.

Anonymous 05/26/2023 (Fri) 08:55:22 No.3262

>>3257 That type of bullshit stems directly from Working Designs, yeah. N*SA is like their poster child.

Anonymous 05/26/2023 (Fri) 09:01:36 No.3263

>>3054 >Globohomo corporate localizations will totally be BTFO by globohomo corporate AI one day, just you wait! Terminally online take. Have you planted your garden yet? It's almost June.

Anonymous 05/26/2023 (Fri) 09:05:11 No.3264

>>3263 I am actually trying to prepare a garden along with more long-term vargposting as we speak anon, not the anon you are responding to but I feel as if the globo-homo fags will simply utilize the globo-homo AI to make their lives easier and to make destroying games easier.

Anonymous 05/28/2023 (Sun) 22:13:22 No.3318

>>3241 Take a (((guess)))

Anonymous 06/04/2023 (Sun) 18:44:05 No.3456

Let's discuss some of their biggest blunders. Shining Wisdom is a 1995 Zelda clone by Camelot. In case you didn't know, it's set in the same universe as the Shining series (you'd think this is obvious, but it's is very important for what's to come!) Sega of Europe produced an in-house localization for it, and just like Soleil / Crusader of Centy, Sega of America was wary of publishing it themselves, so they shopped it around to different publishers expecting one that simply edits it for American English and typos and release it overseas. They went with Working Designs. You may have heard of Bernie Stolar. A sabotage professional who headed Sony of America for a while (and orchestrated a staff exodus of employees from Sega of America to SCEA) who was fired because he kept rejecting major games for being "too 2D" (including fucking Crash Bandicoot, who got its entire animated cutscenes removed, and was delayed 9 months on top of that with zero communication as of why). Sega for some reason hired him to finish them off. Before that time, Sony courted Camelot, who was increasingly dissatisfied with its deteriorating relationship with Sega. As a result, Beyond the Beyond appeared on the PS1 in 1995, and Bernie approved it despite being 2D specifically because it harms Sega) While Working Designs was "working" on its Saturn offerings, they had arguments with Bernie Stolar, then head of Sega of America. Their ragequit on English Lunar 1 Saturn was known, but what they did with stuff that DID release was stunning. I'll spare you the case of Magical Knight Rayearth when they argued with the US show licensors about used terminology, further delaying the game (they admit as much on its manual). What they did on Shining Wisdom was stunning.

Anonymous 06/27/2023 (Tue) 15:55:30 No.4060

>>3456 learning nip is the only way

Anonymous 06/28/2023 (Wed) 18:12:18 No.4080

this shit keeps happening only now in real time

Anonymous 07/16/2023 (Sun) 09:10:10 No.4351

>>4060 AI says otherwise.

Anonymous 07/18/2023 (Tue) 18:10:07 No.4390

>>4060

Anonymous 07/30/2023 (Sun) 13:32:32 No.4625

>>4080 shamefur dispray

Anonymous 07/30/2023 (Sun) 22:02:16 No.4632

>>4080 Pathetic, only reason I play skullgirls is to look at filias fine ass.

Anonymous 07/31/2023 (Mon) 05:41:47 No.4637

>>4632 you can do that without playing it

Anonymous 08/01/2023 (Tue) 06:57:22 No.4662

>>3043 >What do you think the future will bring us when it comes to vidya translations and the horrors of localizations? AI-sama will heal the industry.

Anonymous 08/02/2023 (Wed) 13:54:02 No.4679

>tfw you know nip good enough

Anonymous 08/05/2023 (Sat) 20:36:43 No.4749

>>3456 You just know all of these people trooned out come the CY. I'm being serious.

Anonymous 08/16/2023 (Wed) 22:30:30 No.4990

>>4749 hopefully most 51%'d

Anonymous 08/25/2023 (Fri) 10:57:39 No.5161

Wrecking Designs never left.

Anonymous 08/25/2023 (Fri) 12:27:11 No.5162

>>5161 pure lookalization

Anonymous 09/06/2023 (Wed) 20:55:54 No.5418

Anonymous 09/06/2023 (Wed) 22:45:20 No.5422

>>5418 What's a little bizarre if you think about it for one second, the highly-degenerate state of affairs with Leftists in general, and Feminists in particular, has led us to Current Year of Western localizations. That is, a type of so-called neoPuritanism where only they dictate to the masses what is """moral""" or no -- and that certainly doesn't include normal, healthy, vanilla love-interests! The absolute state of judeo-clown-world.

Anonymous 09/08/2023 (Fri) 15:22:12 No.5444

It's not just translation.

Anonymous 09/08/2023 (Fri) 17:20:18 No.5445

>>5444 I miss pantsu in video games. Now you have to look at manginas.

Anonymous 09/08/2023 (Fri) 18:18:49 No.5447

>>5445 A 'mangina' is not a sexual organ anon; it's a soyim, a soygoy, a feminist-swalloping faggot of the faggot soyim soygoy persuasion. My guess is baste Russia gamedevs aren't afraid of a little pantsu slip here and there, however?

Anonymous 09/17/2023 (Sun) 15:26:09 No.5732

Nazis get punched!

Anonymous 09/17/2023 (Sun) 17:19:42 No.5733

Anonymous 09/23/2023 (Sat) 19:20:47 No.5872

Anonymous 09/25/2023 (Mon) 21:24:09 No.5922

Anonymous 09/26/2023 (Tue) 04:30:46 No.5927

>>5922 Lol One thing that annoys me abouy vidya discussion or at least did back in the day on /v/eddit was the obvious coomer whining but I dislike this for different reasons. Nothing lewd? Nothing at all, to deny such an aspect of humanity ends up making more perverts than destroying them, its bloody pantsu, the same people removing ecchi fan service are making sissy hypno "gooner" cuck videos and grooming kids on discord. Just watch to fucking love ru instead of looking at gross hentai, or play a game with some ecchi fan service-oh wait they don't exist anymore.

Anonymous 09/26/2023 (Tue) 04:58:25 No.5928

>>5927 It's the feminist-driven 'neo-Puritanism'. Ofc it's not at all an attempt at morality such as the real Puritans did, but quite the opposite: it's a system of control by the globalist-kikes & their feminist/troon pets to attempt shoving every degeneracy imaginable down the throats of the goyim. I wish it was just a case of 'roasties on suicide watch', but it's in fact much more insidious than that.

Anonymous 09/26/2023 (Tue) 06:55:14 No.5936

>>5927 *about >>5928 >it's not at all an attempt at morality such as the real Puritans did, but quite the opposite: it's a system of control by the globalist-kikes & their feminist/troon pets to attempt shoving every degeneracy imaginable down the throats of the goyim. It is sadly very effective on autist, many anon was aborted into a tranny, I get the feeling that the kikes don't want a new generation tech savy turbo autist like before. Now that most of our spiritual race has died off due to bordem and demoralization I am very afraid for the future. That being said I'll still never give into the kike system, I will always say no! No, and I will peak at my girls panties when they jump in Hyper Dimension Neptune.

Anonymous 09/26/2023 (Tue) 06:55:50 No.5937

>>5936 *many a potenial anon

Anonymous 09/26/2023 (Tue) 07:24:05 No.5939

>>5936 >>5937 I believe you're absolutely right about our lost bros, bro. Ofc, the kikes never did want any of us to gain power in first place, it's just they were blindsided by it all (in addition to their own tech-ineptitude). They think they have the upper hand on civilization now, but God will laugh them all to derision in the end! :D

Anonymous 09/26/2023 (Tue) 09:32:39 No.5941

>>5939 We had been turned into their finest slaves and could have served them for a very long time, their blood feud with us will end when they realize without us they won't be able to control the world anymore. Bottom of the line is you can't control the world forever like a slave and the kikes will always be slaves, slaves to resentment and slaves to their rejection of the life and the world. A new generation of anons will arise eventually, as the last of a dying spiritual race it is our job to ensure they don't end up like us.

Anonymous 09/26/2023 (Tue) 12:13:41 No.5943

>>5927 The worst part is that Japs are forced to do this, even though they don't want to, in order to appeal to the gaijin market (as they see it), but then western games are nothing but degeneracy with naked homofags fucking, getting fucked by bears, tranny manginas and other deprived stuff they're into. But pantsu and boobs must go.

Anonymous 09/26/2023 (Tue) 13:56:06 No.5944

>>5941 >as the last of a dying spiritual race it is our job to ensure they don't end up like us. Heh, that's yet to be determined. And as for 'like us', we're in fact one of the few hopes left for our world. We could all do with literally millions more 'like us'. :^) But as to our lost brethren, yes it's a sad state of affairs. Doxxcord was one of the greatest CIA glownigger gayops of history tbh.

Anonymous 09/26/2023 (Tue) 17:48:38 No.5946

>>5944 >We could all do with literally millions more 'like us'. :^) Agreed, and I don't ever want to lose hope anon but the darkness takes its toll. >Doxxcord was one of the greatest CIA glownigger gayops of history tbh. Yeah it unironically was and still fucking is. <muh heckin' dickswordarino How bloody hard is it to use IRC or Mumble if you need to use something like that. Also fun fact, Matrix the pushed alternative is literally made by mossad operatives, look or up.

Anonymous 09/27/2023 (Wed) 09:31:55 No.5958

>>5946 >but the darkness takes its toll. Be light for those around you! >and still fucking is. It's not the last trick of the globohomo though, you can be sure. >How bloody hard is it to use IRC or Mumble if you need to use something like that Not hard. Doesn't have as many flashing, shiny things though. No use crying over spilt milk though. At least build yourself up (get /fit/, for instance), and help any based men around you. Be the future you want to see anon! Stay strong anon.

Anonymous 09/29/2023 (Fri) 19:31:43 No.6017

>they've come for the pantsu it's over

Anonymous 10/03/2023 (Tue) 11:15:32 No.6079

lol

Anonymous 10/03/2023 (Tue) 12:28:10 No.6081

>>6079 NOW (((THEY'RE))) COMING AFTER THE FEET Sorry feet bros

Anonymous 10/03/2023 (Tue) 13:27:12 No.6082

>>6079 >censoring feet lmao what

Anonymous 10/03/2023 (Tue) 14:08:41 No.6084

>>6079 >>6082 good, death to footfags

Anonymous 10/03/2023 (Tue) 15:15:22 No.6087

>>6079 Live forever footchads

Anonymous 10/03/2023 (Tue) 18:39:34 No.6091

Anonymous 10/04/2023 (Wed) 00:41:00 No.6102

>>6091 Typical kike bullshit, talking out 'both sides of their mouth'. This is the feminist-oriented neoPuritanism we talked about before. No new to anyone here on /kong/, but Jews have already compromised any Japanese vidya studio that cater to the West. With their insidious creep into the Government institutions there, they will soon mandate this across all media forms, West-pandering or no. But trannies, niggers, body-positive stronk, independynts? SURE WE HAVE PLENTY AND TO SPARE!

Anonymous 10/04/2023 (Wed) 00:49:51 No.6103

>>6102 >body-positive stronk can't wait for all the 500 pound obese black trans-females in my anime vidya games.

Anonymous 10/04/2023 (Wed) 05:28:17 No.6104

>>6091 Japan has fallen.

Anonymous 10/09/2023 (Mon) 17:49:13 No.6209

They took this from us.

Anonymous 10/14/2023 (Sat) 22:27:13 No.6300

non-stop https://archive.ph/CzBVY

Anonymous 10/15/2023 (Sun) 06:05:44 No.6305

>>6300 Remember when gaming was a hobby for high IQ hwite and nip men of good character? I don't either at this point.

Anonymous 10/15/2023 (Sun) 13:08:30 No.6320

>>6300 Somehow I hate this even more than outright censorship.

Anonymous 10/15/2023 (Sun) 13:46:06 No.6321

>>6300 >[game]'s localizers don't know the original language so they just replaced the script with internet memes and that's a good thing At this point faggots that still buy games get what they deserve. >honkai star rail Never heard of it. Is that one of those shitty Chinese gatcha games that everyone's jacking off over lately?

Anonymous 10/15/2023 (Sun) 14:57:01 No.6324

>>6321 Yeah it's gatchashit but that's all what zoomers play nowadays anyway.

Anonymous 10/21/2023 (Sat) 06:41:27 No.6512

Anonymous 10/21/2023 (Sat) 20:12:40 No.6534

>>6512 This shit infuriates me beyond belief. Who the fuck allows this? Games just get hijacked by redditors and nobody can do anything.

Anonymous 10/21/2023 (Sat) 21:47:09 No.6538

How over is it /kong/bros?

Anonymous 10/21/2023 (Sat) 22:19:13 No.6540

>>6538 Nonstop Total End.

Anonymous 10/22/2023 (Sun) 13:05:20 No.6555

>>6512 time to nihongo jouzo

Anonymous 11/10/2023 (Fri) 09:52:51 No.7149

Anonymous 11/10/2023 (Fri) 14:31:34 No.7151

>>7149 Pure lookalization.

Anonymous 11/10/2023 (Fri) 15:43:44 No.7152

>>7149 >acting like its the 1930s >in an age where we have faggots and whores parading in public butt naked, with literal pornography all over the (official kike)media and trannies waving their cocks to little kids at libraries what a time to be dead

Anonymous 11/12/2023 (Sun) 15:18:08 No.7202

Anonymous 11/20/2023 (Mon) 19:44:21 No.7392

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Anonymous 11/20/2023 (Mon) 21:51:57 No.7394

>>7393 >noooooo not the hecking feshgayks

Anonymous 11/22/2023 (Wed) 20:20:54 No.7425

>>7202 >>7392 >>7393 This shit is unacceptable but normalfags don't care. Not only don't they care, they prefer the fake reddit translations and will defend them.

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