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Privacy, Safety, & Security General Robowaifu Technician 04/20/2021 (Tue) 20:05:08 No.10000
This thread is for discussion, warnings, tips & tricks all related to robowaifu privacy, safety & security. Or even just general computing safety, particularly if it's related to home networks/servers/other systems that our robowaifus will be interacting with in the home. <---> /robowaifu/ 's standard regarding a robowaifu's physical safety : ( >>38561 ). --- > thread-related (>>1671) >=== -update OP -broaden thread subject -add crosslink -add safety-standard crosslink
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/17/2025 (Sat) 07:14:57.
>>37708 >SBC's & MCUs That's important to note. It's cool to see the shiny new multimodal AI, but if you want to have an inbuilt computer, you're going to need an AI model small enough to fit on a raspberry pi, best case scenario on a Jetson Nano. (Or a smartphone like me and Barf from Alogs)
>>37709 Good point! But thanks to the Based Bulgarian & his 3K+ contributions yearly, we now have systems that run offline on Raspberry PIs! :^) > https://github.com/ggerganov https://ggerganov.com/
++migration end++ >>37709 >>37710 > (hardware -related : [boardlink - edit later] )
>>37733 >Thanks, the song's stuck in my head again. Lol <Always here for you, bro! :DD <---> >Assuming an always-offline system, I don't really think it matters. >The best lightweight OS is the one that plays nice with her hardware, and features full-disk encryption. Hmm...maybe. Current security motifs involve the >"Every node is compromised. Proceed accordingly." mindset (and not without good reason). Since the hardware itself constitutes dozens (if not hundreds) of possible glownigger/troon attack vectors, I think it behooves us all to not presume too much a priori by using blatantly Globohomo-compromised systems (such as: M$, fagOS, R*dhat [et al], Ub*ntu [et al]) ** within our robowaifus. Even anything that uses systemD*cks is off-limits as well, IMO. Does that make sense, Anon? --- ** by 'et al' in this specific-context, I mean anything downstream of these distros as well...so: F*dora, Linux M*nt, &tc.
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 04/23/2025 (Wed) 21:26:42.
>>37737 So what's left?
>>37738 Well, there are dozens & dozens of possibilities left, Anon. One good one would be a very-pared-down OpenBSD running a hypervisor, and then the code sitting inside a minimal-by-default platform like #include<OS> (cf. >>203, et al). BTW, don't ever forget why you even need to ask 'what's left'. Of course, this situation & mindset on your part was intentionally-devised just so for today. Also, don't forget (((who))) is behind that set of machinations. >tl;dr The Globohomo is no one's friend (just like their father Satan). Thankfully, there are still viable alternatives to their already-compromised systems commonly available to us (like the above pairing). You just have to pick & choose wisely! :^)
>>37739 >Well, there are dozens & dozens of possibilities left, Anon. That's good, OpenBSD looks based. That combined with no wireless network sounds secure enough. Even a pozzed system could be made secure with that. >BTW, don't ever forget why you even need to ask 'what's left'. Of course, this situation & mindset on your part was intentionally-devised just so for today. Also, don't forget (((who))) is behind that set of machinations. Oh, I do know that and remember it. That's why I wanted to find any semi-obscure alternatives to defy them.
>>37740 Excellent! Sounds like you have your 'head screwed on straight' concerning this general topical domain, GreerTech. Proud of you for that, Anon. :^) <---> >Even a pozzed system could be made secure with that. Trust me, I understand where you're coming from with that -- and you may actually be right!! :D OTOH, logic tells us: >"You can never prove a negative." [1] In other words: we could never methodically exhaust all the realm of 'possible-possibles' , sufficient such that we can exclude something from being a possibility -- by using such an inherently-limited-and-tedious approach. (There are other ways, however; cf. [2]). God can always prove such a thing, if it is factual from his viewpoint. But as humans (still stuck inside this universe), about all we can do is make our best attempts to avoid the many various-and-sundry fallacies out there, make inference to the best explanation, reason by analogy, &tc. <---> I think the >tl;dr here ITT (indeed this entire board) is simply this: >"Always do your best, Oniichan!!!" :DD Like really... Gambatte, Anon -- just do it for her! [3] (And that's a whole lot harder than it sounds -- especially so during Current Year.) In other words: always strive to write the best code, and always run it on the best system platform, and always run that on the best hardware platform, and always implement the best physical security for that system, and always use the best OpSec (et al) for that facility, etc., etc. Don't take 'no' for an answer. Improvise, adapt, overcome. Find a way over the mountain. Or around the mountain. Or THROUGH the mountain! Keep working the problem until you asymptotically approach 'perfection'. And then work it some more!! Need I repeat it, Anon(s)? [3] :^) <---> ALSO, always remember: >Any so-called 'solution' is always provisional!! Things can change 'at the drop of a hat'. Be ready for that with backup plans A, B, C, and D , & E. :^) <"Fixed fortifications are monuments to the stupidity of man." <-t. George S. Patton <"Stay frosty." <-t. Bob the Guardian --- 1. > -related : [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(philosophy)#Proving_a_negative 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_of_impossibility 3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 04/25/2025 (Fri) 00:56:55.
> (privacy & security -related : >>37832 )
> (privacy, security, safety -related : >>16520 )
"Why not use Cloud AI?" The same reason most always-online commercial products suck. You don't truly own it, and you're at the mercy of whatever company owns it. Anything can happen, from newly-implemented filters, to account ban, to them selling your data, to the company itself shutting down. I've personally seen it multiple times with multiple roleplay AI providers. Do you really want your waifu to have the same permanance and ownership as a movie on Netflix? Do you really want your waifu to have the same design and information security as Amazon Alexa? With offline, local AI, you own your AI, and will always do so. You know exactly what is going on behind the scenes. You are in control. >But I don't have a powerful computer? I used to think that, but it turns out you really don't need a beefy computer or large model. I've been able to use 1-4B models with great results. The model I use for social chatting is a 1B model, and I've been able to recreate https://theyseeyourphotos.com/ with a 4B model. These AIs can run on a laptop or smartphone. And even if you have slightly less quality outputs, it's arguably better than having to possibly quarantine behind a virtual machine and proxies to avoid spyware, and as @Chobitsu stressed, that quarantine might not even be effective. Or having to play a cat and mouse game with filters and censors. >But I'm not good with computers to load an offline LLM? You don't have to be. Programs like Jan, LM Studio, and ChatterUI are quite intutive to use. I made a guide to help anyone to do so. --- Always remember this anon: There is no "cloud", it's only someone elses computer. Would you rather it be your computer, or a soulless corporate executive's?
Ehh, just like we'd do in our company housing, ensure your "Frat" brothers have a modicum of skills/abilities to bring to the table. <---> That way -- in your case -- when the (inevitable) (((fed))) infiltrators attempt usurping the place to eventually destroy it (cf. 'How hobbies are destroyed' meme), any already-vetted Anons there can 'automagically' work together to sniff the poseurs out, whom you can then eject. <---> Your idea of 'sex-robots' and our idea of robowaifus are two different ideas, Ribose. Yours is yet another exploitable industry for the Globohomo kikes (and in a field they already clearly love). OURS IS A DIRECT, EXISTENTIAL THREAT TO THEIR (((CENTRAL BANKING))) SYSTEM. Simple as. :^)
>>38141 >Your idea of 'sex-robots' and our idea of robowaifus are two different ideas, Ribose. News outlets will not see it that way. Nor will law enforcement agencies. They will see dorks with sex robots and not a direct threat to the system. The people they will look for are going to people following political ideologies that are associated with violence that will give good press and give someone a better chance of re-election.
>>38133 >pic <Lol, wt*f am I looking at.jpg >Being inoffensive has never been and will never be a good security measure, because everything is offensive to someone. This. Apart from this agenda producing simply repellant """human beings""" (cf. every disgusting ultra-pozz evar), it's completely ineffective. >tl;dr Figure out what God wants you to do, then do it with all your might. Figure out what you firmly believe in as a man, then stick to your guns. Let the chips (metaphysical or otherwise) then fall where they may. :D
>>38142 Let's hope they are so short-sighted as to actually believe (& follow the path of) what you say, Anon. Anyone who has been following /robowaifu/ (a resource easily-available to all comers) will know otherwise, heh. :^) What we are attempting here will be a complete upheaval to the current $$$kike-world-order$$$ -- starting first and foremost with the methodological dismantling of their favorite pet : feminism. The popcorn following that outcome will definitely intensify!!** :DD
>>38144 >Let's hope they are so short-sighted as to actually believe (& follow the path of) what you say, I am absolutely sure that they are. Much of the rhetoric from progressive politicians and their army of soy chugging eunichs in the FBI requires that a serious threat of evil neon yatzees exists that are oppressing the poor POCs and wimminz. Should these groups not exist then people's funding and legitimacy will be called into question. People in power are so desprate for these people exist that they will entrap autistic kids and homeless people looking for sandwiches to make them exist. No one's right to rule is immediately called into question by the existence of robowaifus. Nor can progressives justify banning them with rhetoric that fits within their moral framework. They aren't going to come after us, at least not in the beginning.
>>38145 I like this scenario, let's hope & pray it goes just this way! >...at least not in the beginning. Heh, yes like everything else that's a process - its a progression. I think it naive to suppose they won't direct a full-frontal attack against robowaifu Anons in an attempt to cut off the inevitable outcomes; but should that never materialize, then once all the (((systems))) they built up around stronk, independynts begins collapsing around their heads, they'll be forced to act then. The baste Chinese being right at the forefront of all this will ensure it will be too-little, too-late on the parts of the pozzed operatives.
>>38146 >I think it naive to suppose they won't direct a full-frontal attack against robowaifu Anons in an attempt to cut off the inevitable outcomes; but should that never materialize, then once all the (((systems))) they built up around stronk, independynts begins collapsing around their heads, they'll be forced to act then. As of now their focus is on random spergs LARPing as the 4th Reich. By the time we have organized and have working prototypes it will be too late for them to do anything to stop the mass adoption of robowaifus.
>>38149 Again, lets hope you're right! Cheers, Anon. :^)
>>38150 Cautious optimism and white pills everywhere in this bitch! I'll admit though that enemy perception is something that needs to be managed for this to work. Harmless dorks working on waifus is a better image to cultivate than "we are destroying feminism and will crash the banks with it" because that image doesn't threaten anyone. We need to worry about perception management from both a security and a propaganda lense. For example it may be better to emphasize how robowaifus will help with men's mental health then how they will cause feminism to collapse. It would be easy to see how opposing feminism could be used to spin narratives about how we are oppressing women. If we went with the support men's mental health narrative, on the other hand, then anyone attacking robowaifus looks like they are standing in support of suicide.
In the propaganda thread there is a list of communities that we wish to recruit from, but I think it would be wise to also have a list of communities we want to watch out for. >Feds These guys are mostly looking to make arrests and they will goad people into doing stupid shit to do so. They get their funding from politicians so their job it to protect the current regime and make politicians look good. They aren't a huge threat so long as the naughty boy opinions aren't being given a megaphone. >Feminists These women hate men and there isn't much more to it than that. They will come after us simply because they realize our goals will give men options aside from loneliness and divorce rape. >lolcow hunters Groups like kiwifarms and the sharty. They like to go after randos because it is funny. The kinds of projects here might attract their attention. Especially kiwifarms because many of the TERFs banned from reddit have started making it their personal activist site. The sharty mostly goes after troons and pedos so they are less of threat. If anyone can think of other groups we should be watching out for add them to the list. Risk mitigation strategies would also be appreciated.
>>38153 Good advices, Ribose. Of course, the trick is unveiling their deceptions and seeing through to their inherent evil intents against Anons. >lolcow hunters ESPECIALLY LULZY given the fact our home is literally called Alogs.Space -- home of /cow/ !! :DD >fun fact: we were very briefly attacked here by said group, until it was clear to everyone on the Webring we actually intend to pull this off in the end.
>>38153 >cuckservative moral fags These people will go after us because they think we are a threat to their value system and because when the waifubots start rolling out they will be an easier target than feminism (majority of the electorate are women) and the rainbow alphabet (powerful lobby) This group is either unable or unwilling to understand how we got to this point or offer any solution on how to fix the problem.
>>38176 >This group is either unable or unwilling to understand how we got to this point or offer any solution on how to fix the problem. Quite an insightful take, Anon. As a devout Christian, I've frequently rubbed shoulders with boomer-types typically in charge of running their churches -- and I've given precisely your point here lots of thought. They have a 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' type mentality (fair enough as far as it actually goes), and have AFAICT literally zero clue as to the absolutely abominable state of male-female relationships during Current Year. Particularly regarding the incredible obstacles for men in forming healthy & lasting bonds with young females, given the whorish state in general of the w*st today. This evil situation is by the design of the Globohomo kikes running our government$$$. Don't get me wrong, I love Christians as much or more than I love "typical" unbelievers (and I do); but this 'head-in-the-sand ostriching' is definitely a problem within my group in general. And it all boils down to literally just one thing IMO: refusal to acknowledge the inherent evils of (((feminism))). There is a flatout refusal to do anything to reign it in -- even within the walls of their own church buildings! (And this all while our Christian Bible explicitly directs such actions by our men to do just that.) Tale as old as time, I suppose: cucking out to women, despite God's grace not to. Simple as. *sigh* :/
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/04/2025 (Sun) 18:42:57.
>>38177 >As a devout Christian, I've frequently rubbed shoulders with boomer-types typically in charge of running their churches -- and I've given precisely your point here lots of thought. They have a 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps' type mentality (fair enough as far as it actually goes), and have AFAICT literally zero clue as to the absolutely abominable state of male-female relationships during Current Year. Any idea on how to fix the problem? So many boomers see absolutely nothing wrong with no fault divorce or women in leadership positions while being treated with kids gloves. Is it even fixable?
>>38180 I wish I knew Anon. My heart tells me that yes, God himself will intervene and put an end to this crap. I personally hope & pray that robowaifus themselves will play some part in all that. Regardless... It's going to be a tumultuous era coming, before all is said and done. >tl;dr >Buckle in bros, it's gonna be a wild ride!!! :D
>>38480 >But where's the line between teaching robowaifus self-defense and teaching them to be soldiers and assassins? >>38481 >Also not sure where that line is. Legally, I think most places wouldn't even allow them to have non-lethal options like pepper spray. Me neither! Let's try to figure it out together, Anons. :^) <---> For starters, I'd think the case involving the guy who was persecuted for setting a booby-trap to protect his home from being re-robbed by the criminals * in his """neighbor"""hood should come into play in such considerations. (He won his case, BTW.) (He also fell victim to his own trap later, lol. :D I mention this as an example because its apparent to me that (((very soon, lawyers))) will want to clutch their greedy rat-claws into some Optimus owner's pocketbook b/c their robot fell over and hurt (take your pick): a stronk, independynt purplehair (very-likely injured while trying to vandalize it b/c muh_nahdzees); a basketball american (very-likely injured while trying to destroy it b/c lol_niggers); or an illegal invader hard-working dreamer (very-likely injured while trying to steal it b/c no_habla_inglés). The court will be forced to deal with this (at least initially) as a civil -- not criminal -- case. Thus, while the will of the robot's owner may come into play, the (non-existant) """will""" of the robot can't (any more than, say, a FSD Tesla's """will""" could be considered involving an accident). >I hate lawyer sh*te; it makes me want to wretch even just thinking about it. =D: --- * The usual Joggers suspects, ofc. Thus the (((persecution))) -- he being a White man.
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/14/2025 (Wed) 21:16:22.
>>38483 I wouldn't want anything on my robowaifu herself other than sensors since that would make her a target. Right now, I just have security cam on screenface and a Kodiak 1000 lumen LED light attached to a picatinny rail on her shoulder so it is easy to grab. But safe bet is just audio alarms and strobes. They sell pepper spray alarms on Amazon and I dont even see a disclaimer. That definitely is illegal in many places in Europe and probably California. https://www.amazon.com/Robber-Stopper-Pepper-Spray-System/dp/B07551TXL6 A step up from there would be things like tazers or rubber bullets. That is getting into gray areas even in places with strong castle doctrine I'd imagine. Intent plays a big role in many cases, so it would be up to the person to assess.
>>38489 >But safe bet is just audio alarms and strobes. Good idea! One great advantage a robowaifu could have against thieving or vandalizing miscreants (as opposed to say, a car; or a bigscreen TV) is body language. To wit; she should be able to make dramatic, threatening gestures at her assailant even though weilding nothing more potent than flashbang-alikes, a 125dB+ airhorn, or superstink smokes -- all non-lethal (& non-aggressive, even) self defenses. Against basketball americans in particular, this factor (her body language) should be rather effective, I deem. (And since she'll have full recordings of the """suspect""" running away in fright & popping off caps at her as he does, it'll also serve as good evidence against this Lunchtime Rowdy [as corroborative evidence against him during the trial for the 14 liquor stores he also knocked over that same week].)
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/15/2025 (Thu) 08:38:52.
>>38489 My locked covert ops thread apparently got taken down, unlike most other locked threads, so I can't refer back to it. But I suggested in my original thread that a robowaifu could learn to use non-lethal weapons like tonfa, and concealable weapons in general to avoid having her become a target on the streets. You'd think this would be more likely to hold up in court than giving your robowaifu a rocket launcher, but in practice the courts are controlled by roasties and simps who are just looking for an excuse to shit on you for undermining the power of feminism. A jury of your peers will be full of the same types of people and people who are just afraid of robots in general. It would be nice to have a Robowaifu Legal Defense Fund, but they'd probably be banned from every payment processor. My covert ops thread tried to address the issue of how the legal system would react to a robowaifu defending herself, but this thread is probably better for that kind of thing anyway. More to the point, if your robowaifu had built-in weapons, the tards would shriek that you're building war droids and then the government would send in the troops. It might be better to simply try to make your robowaifu a master martial artist instead of focusing on weapons training. Prosecutors have tried to pop martial artists plenty of times, but unarmed martial artists have a better record of defending themselves in court than people using weapons do. Nevertheless, the first time an event like >>38483 describes happens it's going to be a Kyle Rittenhouse-tier media circus, even moreso if the miscreant actually dies due to robowaifu action.
>>38515 >My locked covert ops thread apparently got taken down Its in the storage atticke (same as many other threads) : ( >>30233 ). Again, nice work Anon.
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/15/2025 (Thu) 08:58:12.
>>38515 POTD >It would be nice to have a Robowaifu Legal Defense Fund, but they'd probably be banned from every payment processor. Excellent idea, Anon! As we discussed in the Moneymaking thread : ( >>38484, >>38488 ), alternative options for payments processors needs to be discussed here on the board as well. Cheers. :^) >tl;dr <"Where there's a will, there's a way."
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/15/2025 (Thu) 08:59:48.
>>38517 >storage attic I didn't know this existed, thanks. This also gets into a lot of questions about how AI will be used in the legal system. Obviously it would be easier to convince an AI judge to let a robowaifu off in a self-defense case, employing the help of ChatGPT as your lawyer and maybe a few AIs as congressmen. But I imagine some kind of Butlerian Jihad will pop off long before this starts actually being a realistic prospect. Feminists are already trying to ban robowaifus because they see the threat robogirls represent to their sexual market control. Even AI judges programmed by feminists could be convinced to side with a robowaifu defendant by those who have strong AI skills and knowledge of the law, and feminists understand this and want to stop this before it starts. Legal strategy also comes into it; it's hard to get into specifics about this outside of a specific case and because I'm not a lawyer, but I imagine change of venue will be the bread and butter of robowaifu legal defense strategy, at least in the early going. If you can identify a place where people are less faggy about robowaifus you might have a chance with a jury trial. The ideal scenario is that you'd have an AI judge programmed by non-cucks and request a bench trial instead of a jury trial, but the American legal system is a kiked-up shit mess and you're likely to get whichever form of trial you're least likely to get acquitted in because prosecutors and judges want more convictions to appease roasties and authoritarian normalfag retards who clap like seals for fascist shit. It's possible that other changes will have to be made to the legal system beyond simply incorporating AI; the adversarial system and the jury trial system may have to be revised. But it must be strongly emphasized how important it is to get the first case like this right, because precedent is incredibly important in Western jurisprudence. Future robowaifu-related cases after the first will refer back to the first case as precedent, so if you get a cucked bullshit verdict in the first case it will poison the well. Another potential problem is that the US legal system also often incentivizes plea bargaining down to a lesser charge, especially for financially challenged defendants, but any verdict in the first case other than complete acquittal would probably be used to screw over robowaifuists in the long run. And if the feminists can't take down robowaifus in criminal court they'll try to bankrupt you with lawsuits in civil court, and since feminists are so well-funded, the average robowaifu enthusiast is unlikely to have the money to fight these suits. That's another reason why we need a fund to defend robowaifus in court. Fortunately AI has made it much cheaper to access legal expertise; I expect self-representation to rise dramatically, whereas it used to be a third rail.
>>38530 >But it must be strongly emphasized how important it is to get the first case like this right, because precedent is incredibly important in Western jurisprudence. Because lawyers are fundamentally lazy incompetents who rely on others to do their groundwork? Dunno, just an idea. :D But you're correct in your take about the importance of the initial precedents here, IMO. >That's another reason why we need a fund to defend robowaifus in court. Yes, clearly we do. I personally expect this will literally be directed against Tesla first (& foremost) simply b/c Elon is Literally Worse than Literally Hitler now (in the minds of deranged libsh*tes). Let us hope & pray Tesla crushes it in the courtroom! Cheers. :^)
>>38489 I was thinking of a really loud siren, something that will startle and alert others. Frankly, before arming a robowaifu with anything beyond , I would want to make sure her friend-foe distinction was iron-clad and near flawless. >>38515 I think you're way ahead of schedule. Most robots are still quite stiff and fragile.
>>38543 >Frankly, before arming a robowaifu with anything beyond , I would want to make sure her friend-foe distinction was iron-clad and near flawless. This is a really-solid point, GreerTech. But simple IFF is not enough. Just as its far too late to defend yourself from a violent evildoer's actions once they've already killed you (just as the libsh*tes would have you suffer), so its insufficient for our robowaifus to merely figure out that "Scholarship Recipients" may be there in the room with her. >tl;dr She also needs to be able reason towards intents [1], then plan/act accordingly. Kind of like what would be entailed within solving Anon's suggestion concerning the Martial Arts training : ( >>38530 ). Good post. Cheers, Anon. :^) --- 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intention_(criminal_law)
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/17/2025 (Sat) 04:35:34.
>>38555 Very true. I think so far, we should focus on indoor security
>>38556 >I think so far, we should focus on indoor security That certainly seems the most sensible approach. OTOH Anons like me rush in "where Angels fear to tread"! :D >tl;dr I want to take my dear Robowaifu to picnics in the parks right away! * :^) --- * After all, why should just Takuma and dear Mina-chan get to have all the fun!? :D
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/17/2025 (Sat) 04:46:56.
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I believe that our robots should rely on the simplest, safest security options. We're working of a machine to love, not to shove. 1. Alarms & Alerts this has been mentioned here: >>38489 I would add that contextual awareness should be used. If you are home, she'll alert you as she rushes to you. If you are away, she'll hide and quietly alert you. You could then trigger various responses after viewing whatever information was available. 2. No violence, ever. A machine should never attempt to harm anyone under any circumstance. She should only run and hide. At worst, she could use flashing lights and loud noises to disorient. Both limited within safe levels for the average person. >>38492 I'd even say these methods go too far. 3. No weapons, designed for safety at all times. This is simple, she cannot wield a weapon. No spikes, minimum pinch points, and no electric shocks. She's a machine, like a fridge or toaster. Rely on other means for defense. If you fear her being stolen, use a GPS and log her location regularly. Naturally, your machine is going to be yours. I won't do anything to stop you from strapping a nun-chuck to your roomba. I won't do it though, and urge you all to maximize safety for all people, including the bad ones.
>>38561 I agree with this wholeheartedly. I don't think putting weapons is feasible at this time, however I do think non-lethal energy weapons will be useful. But at that point, I don't even think "weapon" is an appropriate name. More like "deterrent".
>>38561 POTD >I'd even say these methods go too far. Ehh, you're probably right after all. >She's a machine, like a fridge or toaster. Rely on other means for defense. Yeah. Thanks for the gentle reminder, Kiwi. Cheers! :^) --- >note: Added this as safety-standard to OP ITT ( >>10000 ). @Mods Feel free to embellish/edit as you see fit.
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/17/2025 (Sat) 07:13:31.
Aside from command center for your home security system, I wouldn't want any weapons on my robowaifu herself either. Hide and go into safe mode sounds like a better option. Property patrol would be for my unitree go robodogs. My silicone dolls are actually more expensive but I'm really not worried about them getting stolen. It would be pretty funny and be covered under home owners insurance. I could get them vaginal dentatas though. I don't think you could be sued for that.
>>38564 OK, I did some research on how a martial arts robowaifu might be implemented and here's what I came up with. The consensus seems to be no weapons, but I believe hand-to-hand can and should be used - sort of. Originally I wanted to teach the robowaifu to grapple because robowaifus will likely be smallish to reduce material expenses and power consumption, and they won't be good strikers at that small size. But my thinking has somewhat shifted on this. Grappling can give a smaller fighter the win over a larger fighter, but without hydraulics that are too heavy to use on the average robowaifu, she won't be able to apply the pressure needed to competently perform choke holds, joint locks and so forth. This severely limits her options as a fighter, meaning the scenario where a robowaifu injures or kills somebody is extremely unlikely to occur if she's unarmed. But there may be another alternative - aikido. Aikido is a style of martial arts that places a strong emphasis on evasion. It includes some offensive techniques, but the style is often practiced by pacifists and some aikido schools ban their students from competitive fighting. A robowaifu who rarely or never attacks and instead optimizes her dodging ability will be less likely to get in trouble for attacking somebody (but not completely - roasties may just edit a video to make it look like the robowaifu was aggressive). There are a few other styles like this that could be used as well, but many require complex movements a robot might not be able to perform. Economy of motion is key, and the need for this is filled by certain variants of kung fu and some of its offshoot styles, because you can't very well make a robot that learns martial arts Matrix-style and not include kung fu. So anyway, here's my idea about how to actually do this. What you'd have to do is rig up an AI video generator to serve in this capacity, training it on hundreds of thousands of martial arts videos. When the robowaifu detects aggressive movements, her AI internally creates a short video of how she responds to this, using another database of images depicting various martial arts stances as start images. Another AI model then translates this video output into robot movements. Unfortunately, there would be considerable processing time inherent in this setup. It can take between several seconds and many minutes to produce a still AI image, and even more for a video - far too much response latency to act appropriately when under attack. So the waifu would need more processing power than she can get locally. This could only be accomplished by using a remote server, or more likely an entire server farm. If optical processors and holographic storage were widely available, you might be able to run this on the waifu locally, but those won't be common for at least 10 more years. This is what we can do with current technology. Obviously most people don't have the money to burn on building a server farm just to teach a robowaifu martial arts. I'd do it if I had the money, but I don't. As a test of this theory, I decided to try to create some AI art of a robowaifu doing martial arts. It didn't go according to plan; the AI has a hard time creating martial arts stances, so this is an area that clearly needs some work. But I think this came out nicely aside from the fact that it doesn't actually depict martial arts.
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>>38832 This is assuming the robot can move like that. If you look at modern humanoid robots, most of them move in a very stiff manner. The only exceptions I see are Unitree's robots and Boston Dynamics. But the former still is stiff to a degree, and the latter runs on gasoline except for the new one and the yellow dogs, but those aren't exactly Jackie Chan. https://www.techeblog.com/boston-dynamics-new-electric-atlas-humanoid-robot/
>>38833 I don't really know what to do about the physical side of this, unfortunately. Most likely an artificial musculature will be needed, although I suppose it's possible to use a tensile system or spring-loaded setup instead.
I've been trying some other AI art models and gotten some better results for martial arts, but sadly the only models I've found that work well for this are more demanding of system resources, meaning they'll run slower and be unable to respond quickly in a fight.
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>>38832 >Aikido places emphasis on evasion. This is a great idea. Having her dynamically evade assailants is good. >Economy of motion A great point. This is vitally important, she must efficiently flow in her movements. >>38833 brings up a good point, most robots look like lumbering stiffs. This is related to how instead of moving with nature, they're moving by overpowering it. Martial arts prominently exemplifies how moving with nature, utilizing physical dynamics and rhythm, leads to incredible efficiency. Studying this can help in developing robots which both move with grace, and flow around attackers, ensuring the safety of both parties. Shion Ashimori from Sing a Bit of Harmony being a great example of this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH_TM9fcI9o
>>38941 >Studying this can help in developing robots which both move with grace, and flow around attackers, ensuring the safety of both parties. Beautifully-put, Anon. I'm fairly sure that such tensegrity-like motions would also be energy-efficient as well. This would have far-reaching benefits for our robowaifus beyond simple self-defense scenarios.

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