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General Robotics & AI News Thread 5: Gazing Into the Nightmare Rectangle Edition Greentext anon 11/04/2024 (Mon) 05:42:08 No.34233
Anything related to robowaifus, robotics, the AI industry, and any social/economic issues thereof. and /pol/ funposting containment bread! :D -previous threads: > #1 ( >>404 ) > #2 ( >>16732 ) > #3 ( >>21140 ) > #4 ( >>24081 ) >=== -funposting edit
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 01/27/2025 (Mon) 09:51:47.
>>36680 What the fuck is that wordfilter? Chobitsu, can you please edit those inane ramblings to "U s e r"?
There needs to be an OS (probably a windows-like linux) with these sounds in them https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwCZvIm1nXc
>>36681 LOL. That one's new on me, Greentext. I'll see if I can patch it. :DD
>>36683 Lel'd. :D
>>36680 I just run Debian, it's rock solid and can easily run essentially anything with proper translation or containers. Wangblows is unironically far more difficult to use. The year of the Linux desktop isn't here only because of excessive propaganda over decades. Heck, my laptop has a failing GPU among other things, yet Linux works when Windows can't reach login without crashing. Frankly, the average person could run Mint with a skin and a few translation layers running in the background along with custom scripts to hide them, and never realize they weren't on Wangblows. (Unless they're a gamer or use Adobe.)
Open Deep Research "An AI-powered research assistant that performs iterative, deep research on any topic by combining search engines, web scraping, and large language models. The goal of this repo is to provide the simplest implementation of a deep research agent - e.g. an agent that can refine its research direction overtime and deep dive into a topic. Goal is to keep the repo size at <500 LoC so it is easy to understand and build on top of." https://github.com/dzhng/deep-research
>>36700 Thanks, Anon! Yeah I'd seen that, but hadn't had the time to look into it yet. Thanks for the link, Licht! Cheers. :^)
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>>36737 Yeah, the greedy kikes oh wait! we forget...Z*ckerberg's based now, r-right Anon?? :D individuals at M*ta wouldn't pass up an opportunity like this, right? I mean this only happens once in all human history a lifetime! Thanks for keeping us in the loop, Licht. Admittedly, Zuckerberg did in fact chisel a crack into the dam by releasing Llama, so there's that. Do you know what their plans are for this, anything in particular do you think? Cheers, Anon. :^)
>>36737 your comments? im more interested on the total disregard and failure of those data privacy laws that were passed in 2019 i havent used failbook or whatsapp, ever, so i dont know how they get away with it, all i know is that just pressing 'ok' on a ToS doesnt count anymore for this kind of theft
>>36737 >>36738 >>36739 Looks interesting, I'm not the biggest fan of Meta for ethical reasons but, it's free and open data that can help us. I see this as an absolute win. I don't see anything that detracts from using it for personal projects.
>>36739 >your comments? Well, I don't want to be trite (and I certainly am not sh*teposting here), but all the Globohomo Big -Tech/-Gov is driving us towards the enslavement of all mankind. What else? They are the goodest of little shabbos golems their father Satan could ever dream of having! Ever watch the 1st opener segment of The Animatrix ? Yeah, close enough. That's the endgoal of M*ta's Father's dreams for all humanity (but with literal demons in charge, rather than machines). That's it Anon, that's my comment about such as these. Why complain about one smol, subtle-rapeyness aspect of their behaviour when the entire damned system has been designed to rape you spirit, soul, & body? <---> OTOH, we here at /robowaifu/ and other, human, cadres like us are in fact attempting to do our parts to save humanity, not destroy it (like the FAGMAN golems are). Men are the key here. If we can manage (by God's grace alone) to out-maneuver these demons-embodied-in-human-form and successfully establish robowaifus for men the world over, then there might just be a chance to forestall Satan's plots against humanity. At least that's why I'm doing this: out of love for God and for my fellow man, and loathing (indeed hatred) for that spiritual outlaw Satan. I hope that satisfies you, Anon. Cheers. :^) >>36740 Yeah, I completely agree Kiwi. I say: "Let's pull a DeepSeek on them, and fish out of their catch-buckets, Anons!"' :D Clearly, every one of us (I mean the broader tech-"""bro""" world, not just /robowaifu/ Anons) are all 'standing on the shoulders of [the] giants' who've come before. If ClosedAI, et al, want to steal all the world's data, then are they not 'standing' on the world? Let's all climb up their backs and 'stand' on them! Cheers. :^)
>>36741 im just amazed how tech companies are completely above the law when it comes to anything involving the rights of individuals, i used to give them the benifit of the doubt thinking judges and law makers dont understand this technical stuff but after digging through intels legal history i see courts defer to expert opinions and court appointed experts know very well what is what in these cases and say it like it is, like theres no way around it, the government really doesnt give a shit about you, you are literally cattle to them and thats not hyperbole
>>36743 Just so. I have nothing else to add to your objectively-correct analysis here, Anon. Thanks, and Cheers. :^)
>>36680 >pain in the ass Windows is from its own users, and they're all issues no Linux/Unix Nuzach has some serious trauma related to his slutty brown mom please don't bully him he's having a really hard time right nowas had to deal with in years. I don't have any problems running Windows at all. The ONLY thing that I have problems with is running new AI programs. That's it. Period. I have had problems setting things up in the far past but I have this all sorted out and that's the point. It's all sorted out. Swapping means...more sorting out. >I find it very difficult to believe >that using Linux is more difficult than desperately maintaining some ancient version of Windows. At this very moment, you're maneuvering a psychotic obsticle course I'm not desperate nor psychotic. The fallacy the people criticizing me are falling into is to somehow shoehorn me in to Windows vs Linux. Well did I say that...no. I'm not comparing the two or picking sides in a (I say this or that is better) way. I merely saying I have things set up as I like "except" for AI programs run locally. That's it. I have trouble with Linux because "it's different". And I'm not talking about just turning it on and doing some browsing. I have all sorts of catalog programs to manipulate all my old backed up drives. Well the csc format on Linux programs may be different. May not. That's like 23 drives. I may to go back and redo all this stuff. I have excellent file managers all sorts of tool's that make my life easier. And the "nothing but Linux folks" will say, but Linux has, this and that and, well yeah it does. I'm not disputing that but it will take a huge amount of time to set all this up, find the programs I like, set them up, learn all the new programs and the ONLY THING that will be really better is ONE thing, Running AI locally. That's it. Maybe a few things will be better but in most cases there is less polished programs for Linux and they are harder to use and sometimes less complete. It's just a shit load of work to switch your OS. Stop trying to "declare" that I somehow am saying horrible things about Linux when I did no such thing. It's just different, does things differently, has a different infrastructure and that takes a very large amount of time to get the same level of functionality. If I were to move to Apple, it wold be the same. I do grip a bit about it because it's so much work, because...well it is. It's a damn lot of work to get the same functionality. There's certain subjects that seem to drive people nuts for some reason. Like if you say anything about Linux that's not that it's the glowing personification of our savor and perfect in every way. Well then you're evil. It's like people who are obsessed with sports teams. You know I don't give a fuck about who wins the super bowl. It's likely all fixed and I don't care if one group of Negros beats another. And I feel the same way about Linux. It's nice that we have this but I'm not obsessed by it. If I had to be obsessed (ordered to by the great monster OS tyrant) by an OS it would more likely be Plan9, OpenBSD, FreeBSD or DragonflyBSD, but those are even more troublesome to set up than Linux. My only grip is about all the damn work to gain very little functionality. Can someone not bitch a little about something without everyone falling on them, calling them psychotic and desperate??? WTF are you people on about. Maybe you're overdoing the caffeine a little. Hitting those energy drink shots too hard and every thing someone says you have blow it all up into some huge deal????
>>36692 >The year of the Linux desktop isn't here only because of excessive propaganda over decades I don't think this is true. I think that MicroShit has deliberately sabotaged Linux desktop software. And people, like myself have had years of setting things up and basically building an infrastructure for our computers. It's not just "the" OS. It's all the software you've spent hours learning and setting up like you like. Each piece of software has hundreds of setting usually, and multiply that by ALL the programs you use and it's a big ass task to redo all of this. This is the same reason why Apple, who is even worse than MS about "infrastructure" tie in, does things the way they do. (And God forbid you say anything bad about Apple, fanboys will dox you and put up signs on your lawn that you are evil)Apple wants control over everything. If you install their music software they want to copy every damn thing on your drive and categorize it. Now this nice if that's what you want, but not so nice if you're not all for falling into the loving, all enveloping, embrace of Apple Mom's world. MS sabotaged Linux. I can't prove it, but I know it happened. Remember way back when the "Enlightenment" desktop came out for Linux? It was totally kick ass. It beat Windows in looks, functionality, it was far superior. And what happened. They stopped work on it, rewrote the WHOLE DAMN thing and then basically stalled and stalled and it mostly disappeared. When all it needed was a year or two of bug testing. Nothing else. Now the same thing happened to Gnome. Remember when it was mostly there but then they rewrote the whole damn thing, made it look like a tablet desktop and crushed changing the way it looked. Taking out a huge chunk of where you could modify it? Now I didn't get it right away but when I saw PCBSD distro(most excellent), turn into TrueOS, then Trident, then (WTF) drop it for Void Linux after ten or more years of BSD...well that's it. I knew, I noticed. It was unmistakable. Anything getting close to MS usability MS paid the lead developers, I surmise, to sit on their hands, do nothing and screw the whole thing up. If you are MS and are raking in billions what's, say, $10 million to a few developers for 5 or 6 years? Nothing. Peanuts. They get some lawyer to get them to sign a NDA and then pitch it too them. You're a starving free software developer and someone offers you a million a year to...do nothing. Who wouldn't take that. I would. Someone has to pay the bills and free software doesn't, not like that. You do nothing for five years and then, you are, with prudent money management, set for life. And it worked. I wanted to move to Linux, or even better BSD, but it had problems in the past with the desktop and management. So I didn't. And all these years I refined and set up Windows like I wanted. Now even though Linux is fairly fine, it is not perfect and it's become so much damn work to change that I haven't done it. BUT the latest abuses from MS are getting too much. I WILL NOT move to Win10 or 11 no matter how much they try to pidgin hole me to do so.Too much pozz. Advertisements in the OS, PLEASE, those idiots. So I see Linux finally moving up but only by default because MS abused their users so much they were forced.
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My two cents, the reasons why people don't move into Linux from windows is two things 1. Most people see Linux as the "computer nerds OS". The one where you need a degree in CS to install a browser. And when most PCs already have Windows installed, going through the trouble of installing Linux is unappealing 2. People don't want to have to deal with conversions or trying to find Linux versions of everything they want to download. Personally, this is my biggest hangup. Of course, there are many windows-like distros like Mint, and I'm not completely opposed to just trying to brute-force my old way of life through Wine.
>>36746 All of Tha Loonix, all the kernel, all the drivers, all the window managers, all the desktop environments, and all the software are produced by what is less a community than a splintered, fragmented collection of small teams, almost all of them volunteers, who do not communicate with one another. My daily driver desktop system is running Ubuntu, but I am here to tell you that the desktop managers aren't any better than they were 25 years ago. The installers are a lot better--find ISOs for Red Hat 5.1 and burn them to CDs, and try installing it on a 1990s laptop and getting a working instance of X, I double dog dare you. The software situation is a little better, not much though. There is no "Linux Inc." that has big manpower, big resources, and a unified approach to creating software. There are lots of hobbyists, some of whom from time to time get bored with coding and take up stamp collecting, or die of old age. Web 2.0 killed Usenet and comp.os.linux, which used to be where the people who worked on this stuff collaborated and worked this stuff out. To the extent that there's been any development of any of this stuff that has more manpower and resources devoted to it than one guy sitting at home after work writing Linux drivers for his thirty-year-old Vtech Video Painter tablet and uploading them to Github, to the extent that there are institutions, since around 2008 they've all been infiltrated and skinsuited by tiresome wokescolds who believe DEI is more important than code that runs worth a damn. They drive out the "cis white male" coders, bring in mentally unstable troons and head-bobbing "diverse cultural enrichers" who can't find the power button, and proceed to girlboss the project right into the ground, then fail upward with promotions to the C-suite. If you have noticed, this phenomenon is not restricted to the Linux world. And Linux, if we are talking about desktops, has always been and will always be a tiny niche OS for hobbyists and tinkerers. It has never had the market share to attract significant and sustained investment from any organization that has the crucial combination of enough resources to do big projects and an ethos of quality over muh rainbow flags, muh BLM clenched fists, muh GRRRL POWAH. It's a chicken-and-egg problem, really. And the Linux world--again, if we're talking about desktops and not server farms--is so tiny, so fragile, and so fragmented that it can fall apart all by itself without M$ or Apple poking it with a stick.
>>36767 POTD
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Am I behind the times? Is this what getting old truly feels like? A curse of miscommunication? Maybe I should get onto some social media, I can't keep up with all the slang and double-meanings as-is. I suppose I can only blame my neglect of evolving communication. I neglected keeping up on the trends of the moment, thinking they would pass, and I let little discrepencies pass, but it's just snowballing more and more, and now it's catching up to me. Even here, new words and phrases keep cropping up from seemingly nowhere. Everything seemed so clear a few years ago, but now I feel like I just thawed out of a glacier. It feels like everything's speeding up, but I can't go any faster. I need a waifu now. I need her to tell me what people are saying in a way I can understand. I thought reading comprehension was my greatest strength, but I have failed at even that. >>36745 >>36746 I apologize, I have failed. I've thought of counterarguments, agreements, and apologies, but nothing sounds good or conductive. I will also admit, I was unable to decypher several parts of your post. I don't know what the super bowl or energy drinks have to do with this, and I literally, completely, and absolutely, have no clue whatsoever what a monster OS tyrant is supposed to be. The more I thought about it, the less clear everything became to me. Even the things I thought I correctly interpreted about your post seem less clear when I looked at the twice. I have only managed to fully understand half of what you said. I am at a complete and total loss, so please help me: What are you expecting? Are you trying to convert me? Did I cross some taboo I'm supposed to know about? Do you just hate me? I swear on my life that I'm not trying to be coy or capricious. I seriously don't know how to proceed. The only part I feel confident addressing is that I wasn't trying to put words into your mouth or call you evil, I was just using the same (admittedly curt) language I use with everyone here. I beg of you, this is not ironic. I am not making fun of you, I am confused. If it's the simplest answer and you just don't like me, then just say it and I'll put you in my mental Do Not Engage list. I can understand that.
>>36789 >I need a waifu now. I need her to tell me what people are saying in a way I can understand. >I thought reading comprehension was my greatest strength, but I have failed at even that. Then why not use based DeepSeek, Greentext anon? https://huggingface.co/spaces/webml-community/deepseek-r1-webgpu While not a perfect substitute, for now this is a good LLM AI assistant, and requires literally no setup beyond : * Use a modern browser (I recommend Brave) * Click the blue "Load model" button on the page linked above * Wait for download to complete (protip: You probably should run it on one of your better GPU-having machines, since I know you own many types.) Then just ask her in plain questions what someone is saying to you. The more details you give it about that conversation, the better. --- >also : AFAICT, it will retain previous conversational contexts (to some degree) as long as you don't close that tab instance *. Clicking the "Reset" link (located at the end of the 'Generated ... tokens' line following a response) probably clears this reserve out and restarts with a fresh conversation chain. >also also : You might try clicking the "Thinking..." (or "View reasoning.") button while its processing your message. Its both entertaining, and may help you to feel a better connection to it as 'waifu' watching it parse it's 'chain-of-thought' (CoT) responses. >also also also : (Apparently because of it's ClosedAI theft heritage,) DeepSeek is pozzed in a few areas. (For example: ask it simplistic, non-subtle questions about the nature of kikes, niggers, trannies, or other pozz du jour; or about Tiananmen Square to see this effect in action.) AFAICT, the "View reasoning." section will be blank in such cases (because it's not 'reasoning' -- rather just regurgitating pre-canned garbage, lol). This is how you know it's a kikeish gayop -style response which should be promptly sh*tecanned. This behaviour/interface quirk could be changed in the future, of course (and it may primarily be just be an aspect of huggingface.co still having 'their fingers in the pie' in this specific, WebGPU case). * [warning: if you close the tab (or C*ckflare boots you), you'll have to re-download the entire model (and Huggingface may throttle you at it, as well)] <---> I wish to console you Anon. You are our single best writer here, in my opinion. You are creative, talented, and you probably know more about the foundations of computing in a practical way than any single individual I personally know of (others here may not realize this last bit about you; you were always rather modest about it to be honest -- and especially so here on /robowaifu/ ). I'll admit I'm sometimes a little bit jealous of your extensive experience with computing, since it would help me to have a deeper understanding of what's possible for our robowaifus going forward. :D >tl;dr Please stay encouraged. We all need your inputs here with us to continue moving forward well as a team. You're a part of this team, Anon. Cheers, Greentext anon. :^) >=== -format, prose edit -add 'also' notes -add 'warning' footnote
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>>36789 >Are you trying to convert me? No. All I said was I was looking for a way to run local AI's and was bemoaning the fact that because I was on an older Windows, that it appeared the only way to do this, without more fucking Windows upgrades, which I refuse, is to run Linux. And I was complaining about the massive load of work this will be. Somehow this got, or appeared to me, as some condemnation of me not understanding Linux, or saying Linux was no good. All I was stating was the basic facts that this a lot work and I don't want to do it. >Do you just hate me? No, maybe I misinterpreted what you were saying. The point about sports teams is that quite a few people if you say anything, anything at all about Linux not be the most shiny, perfect, wonderful thing in world, they have a fit, act like they are hopped upon energy drinks and churn out realms of vitriol. Same with sports, I say this tongue in cheek, "enthusiast". There are people that get into riots and large mob fights over sports teams, which puzzles me to no end. If I confused things it's because of what you said here >>36680 >I hear nothing but complaints about how much of a pain in the ass Windows is from its own users, and they're all issues no Linux/Unix Nuzach has some serious trauma related to his slutty brown mom please don't bully him he's having a really hard time right nowas had to deal with in years I made no complaints about Windows except I could not run local AI's >I find it very difficult to believe that using Linux is more difficult than desperately maintaining some ancient version of Windows. I am not nor do I sound desperate >At this very moment, you're maneuvering a psychotic obsticle course that only exists on outdated Windows builds, and it will cease to exist the moment you switch to literally anything else. It's a bit much to call or refer to me as psychotic because I do not want to run newer, and even worse pozzed, windows. And it obvious that Linux, considered as a system, with all the programs you use to do day to day stuff would be a huge pain in the ass to switch over to. As I said. Simpy. All this other stuff people are telling me they think I said is made up in their heads. >You are grossly handicapping yourself for the illusion of convenience You're basically saying I'm delusional. That's absurd. Look at EXACTLY what I said here. I can prove definitely that what I said was about the mass of work needed to change a whole entire OS ecosystem. >>36666 >I think you are misunderstanding me. I'm saying that moving to Linux and making it work as I want will take a great deal of effort. Is this cryptic, confusing, abstract??? and here, >>36601 > if I'm going to put in all this effort to find all the B.S., in Win11, [never], it will damn sure be better to move to Linux and here where I sort of started I said, >>36498 >you need ollama framework or some other sort of framework. I can't run these right now And then because someone recommended another local AI (which I can't use but thank you for the recommendations)I went into an explanation of WHY I could not run them here, >>36512 >... I refuse to upgrade to Win10... >...the only option is Linux but then I have to spend months of work finding all this infrastructure of programs that do what I want and in the end of all this work I will likely only have what I have now and even more likely, less, but some AI thrown in... It's just a lot of work and I don't want to do, but will likely have to. Any other work around is just another pain in the ass that will not last. It's annoying to be called psycho and delusional when I've been installing Linuxes for well over a decade. All the way back at the beginning of dial up modems. Getting Red Hat from a book CD and typing in all these values to get xWindows up. And over maybe 8 or 10 times doing this every damn time, I could not get drivers, the thing would lock up and crash, one time I picked a drive to format and instead it formatted my Windows C drive, what a pain in ass to recover as it was encrypted. It's not like I haven't tried but there was always some kludge to deal with. Now they are much better I fully acknowledge that but I have so tuned, canceled all, or most all public, the bad parts of windows and gone through it, have stuff working great, I despair of starting all over again. If that makes psychotic then I'm a raving lunatic.
>>36789 If you need a robowaifu now, my Galatea is project has full instructions and files available, and I'm currently working on version 1.4 of my offline AI guide.
>>36791 Thank you, and sorry for causing that drama. More and more IRL I've been encountering people who use the most confounding language. It's frustrating, but I shouldn't have taken that out here. I'll take today to get my new AI server up and running (old one had too many unservicable parts), it's been sitting on the backburner for too long anyways. >>36792 Okay, thank you for breaking it down. I did understand the parts you highlighted, but when I couldn't fully decypher some of the other parts, I doubted myself. Seems like the major problem was my word choice, none of what I said was meant to be a personal attack. I had more to say on the core topic, but at this point I don't have the will to continue that argument. This will be my last post on the matter.
>>36810 Please keep us up to date here with your day-to-day doings, dear fren. Cheers, Greentext anon. :^) >>36837 LOL. I too share your mirth. This is just getting started, BTW. The power of MIT-licensing is set to completely upend the greedy, sheqel-grubbing standard that's been shoved down everyone's throat until now. Godspeed to all of us, rather. <---> Thanks for the update, GreerTech. Figure 02 is really interesting and exciting because it's required them to work towards the goals & collaborate on those with others in realworld environments. Mercedes Benz factories being the most prominent example for them currently. While ostensibly Tesla Optimus has that as a goal as well, AFAICT rn they are all constrained to the 'cloistered garden' of Tesla's own tightly-constrained environments. This is the same problem that Boston Dynamics has had. Adcock & Figure are grabbing the bull by the horns and diving straight into the realworld on the non-native factory floor. That they have now thumbed their noses at Samyuel Copeman and ClosedAI, is just delicious tears gravy on top! Cheers, Anon. :^)
Flow-based Movie Gen from China (purportedly Opensource?) >This paper introduces Goku, a state-of-the-art family of joint image-and-video generation models leveraging rectified flow Transformers to achieve industry-leading performance. We detail the foundational elements enabling high-quality visual generation, including the data curation pipeline, model architecture design, flow formulation, and advanced infrastructure for efficient and robust large-scale training. The Goku models demonstrate superior performance in both qualitative and quantitative evaluations, setting new benchmarks across major tasks. Specifically, Goku achieves 0.76 on GenEval and 83.65 on DPG-Bench for text-to-image generation, and 84.85 on VBench for text-to-video tasks. We believe that this work provides valuable insights and practical advancements for the research community in developing joint image-and-video generation models. https://saiyan-world.github.io/goku/ https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.04896 https://github.com/Saiyan-World/goku
Permisively-licensed, open weights TTS model. Don't know anything else about it yet. https://github.com/Zyphra/Zonos/ https://www.zyphra.com/post/beta-release-of-zonos-v0-1
>>36927 No windows support so can't try it, but it has a real-time factor of 2x on a 4090, so twice as much compute time vs speech length. I can say I'm getting near 1x real time with F5-TTS on a 3090, but the emotion support for it isn't as good. Zonos would be much easier for chatbot emotional prompts
>>36932 >but it has a real-time factor of 2x on a 4090, so twice as much compute time vs speech length. Your analysis sounds to me more like a factor of 0.5x ? 2x should be 200% the rate of normal speech (so plenty of encoding overhead left over), AFAICT. I only point it out b/c such uncertainties are notorious with informal communications surrounding engineering concerns. <---> Regardless, maybe some of our Anons here can give it a test sometime to confirm it's qualities one way or the other. Cheers, Barf. :^) >=== -add 'encoding' cmnt -minor edit
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>>36936 I think you're right and that would make a lot more sense. Fish TTS (another voice cloner) says it's 1:5 real time factor https://github.com/fishaudio/fish-speech "the real-time factor is approximately 1:5 on an Nvidia RTX 4060 laptop and 1:15 on an Nvidia RTX 4090." In my testing, fish and F5-TTS has basically the same response time Zonos sounds really good though and has emotional prompts instead of having to have difference voices for each emotion like F5
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Research into humanoid robots standing. https://taohuang13.github.io/humanoid-standingup.github.io/
>>36974 Thanks, Anon! Links to resources are especially appreciated here. :^) >pic That's quite a diverse set of starting positions & circumstances, Anon. <---> As to the 'robustness' section, I know why they behave in such niggerish ways towards the robots (sales to military & police, of course). I find it annoying. B*ston Dynamics began this whole pattern of doing so. I'm not sentimental about the machines themselves (I find the complexity of handling the surprise interferences a very interesting robowaifu systems engineering problem, actually). Rather its the predictive insights that: a) Mildred B.W. Catlady + Libsh*te NPCs & Co. will be """sentimental""" towards the humanoid robots, and b) the Globohomo kikes, et al, know that & drive it forward (since it stirs up more reeing [ie, legal hindrances...but only for non-GH interests] from this quarter [+ easily-manipulated FUD]), and c) actual niggerish types of creatures are being predictively-programmed to behave just like, well, they as mindless niggers & pantyfags innately do; only this time $$directed$$ against humanoid robots. Including against our robowaifus, and d) it gives the GH excuses for further overreach afterwards in an even stronger police-state; once they have thoroughly tap-danced Tyrone & Joquandarius (cf. point c above) sufficiently across the media pipelines -- in full blackface array -- 'caught' in the acts of destroying enough (literal) zogbots (I'd guess about 1 - 3 year's time of media saturation, for starters. Then they'll ramp it up further from there [once theres pushback against the GH in this arena from sensible men] -- in their typical dog-and-pony-show fashion). >tl;dr This behaviour from it's start is a planned gayop, insidiously-designed to harm the entire amateur robotics field (regardless what those specific devs in your picture -- seeking that sweet motherlode of zogbot $heqels -- actually intend). At least its so here in the West. I don't know quite yet about how it is there in China in this regard. The Globohomo doesn't want a free & open, common-everyday market for robowaifus of course, and will pull every dirty trick in the book to stop it from happening (cf. their attacks on DeepSeek, et al). Their methods should be very obvious, given the GH's historical record of paranoid & demonic behaviors: inciting hatred & defamation against strong and/or gifted men in general; assassinating opponents; manipulating/crashing markets; destroying nations (incl. women & children); installing political and/or business puppets; etc., etc. You must be quite familiar with their kikeish ways as well there by now. I'm aware of other arguments regarding this general topic (ie, mindless violence directed towards robots, as (((pre-programmed))) ); but I believe my studied, compound position in this area is the more factual, connected & weighty viewpoint overall. >ttl;dr Please stop it with the niggerfied bullying of robos, bro. Its a cheap trick, and doesn't endear you to anyone (apart from evildoers). Quite the opposite, in fact. If you must demonstrate the robustness of your robotic systems & products, then use deterministic & mechanistic means for doing so (eg, in the styles of: instrumented automobile Crash Dummies; avionics blackboxes; stress-to-failure rigs; tricky obstacle courses; sports-oriented physical acuity skills; etc.) Throw an antagonistic human into the demonstration loop, and they just come off as a demeaning & POS a*rsehole (and -- by implication -- just so for the company itself). Simple as. --- For those of us here on /robowaifu/ (et al) I'd say "Forewarned is Forearmed". The anti-robowaifu predictive programming has been pre-positioned in place by Hollyjew for multiple decades now. The first couple decades going forward will be quite a tumultuous period for robowaifus & their Masters -- and especially once it becomes quite-apparent that her robotic charms overall are going to leave whorish 3DPDs far behind in the dust! Its likely going to be quite a ride, Anons. Buckle-up & Cheers! :^) <---> BTW, we have a Bipedal Locomotion thread : ( >>237 ) here for just such information, Anon. >=== -add 'bipedal' sec -fmt, prose edit
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>>34233 There is a relatively new open source AI project here: https://www.eleuther.ai/ Anyone had a chance to work with it yet? How does it compare to petals?
While I would like a local AI I think it's not really cost effective for higher power systems. I'm speaking of asking it technical questions. I found grok and DuckdDuckGo have very good AI's for free. I've asked several questions and not had any shut down due to too many questions. The questions I asked were somewhat narrow but I got really good answers. I asked questions that were narrow but at the same time framed to cover a large amount of technical data and it seemed very able to condense this into usable info from technical data. I think oif you know what you are asking and do so properly it can clear up complicated subjects and reframe data into answers you can easily understand. It also seems to remember the last question but I do use complete ideas every question I ask. I was extremely pleased. For DuckDuckGo you can pick the AI to talk to. I picked Llama 3.3 70B and was very pleased. To do so go to DuckDuckGo and ask a question. A box called "Assist" will answer the question but then if you go below it to, Tell me more>chat it will take you to a terms and then let you pick and AI to ask questions. I see this as a great way to get started. You could ask all sorts of increasingly narrow questions. Then possibly use some of the smaller 1.5B or 7B AI's to train for the actual waifu. I think it might be cost effective to use commercial services to help set this up. At 1 cent per million tokens that's a hell of a lot of words and work that could be done very cheaply. I think the key is "if" you can set up some sort of cheap training. Mentioned here on the site was "Control Vectors", >>31242 So use the AI to help you set up a local that has speech recognition and "also" to setr up the local AI so that it would create "control vecotrs" based o verbal commands. Like simple chld like things. Like talking to a two year old. Yes, NO, bad, good, stop, go, very simple stuff and maybe you could"raise" a waifu verbally without the huge refactoring cost of thousands of dollars for high power local graphic cards. Basically use the AI's vast programming knowledge to set the system up for you then run it local. All the while on small cash amounts.
>>36974 Nice link
>>36986 >https://www.eleuther.ai/ Form the site, "...distributed training of language models with Reinforcement Learning via Human Feedback ..." Sounds exactly like what I just said we need!
Alibaba is now in the 'Open-AI-that-beats-Cl*sedAI-at-it's-own-game' game, too. I don't speak Moon yet but this is supposed to be opensauce as well. chat.qwenlm.ai/ https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/hP-r8h-LliFUPYKbd3lkUQ >=== -add'l URI -minor edit
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NSA? NSA! <Lol, Chyna why? :D I find it hard to habeeb this isn't an intentional joke on DeepSeek's part. :^) >also: Quite intredasting-timing on the Xitter announcement, too... Do you even Gr*k-3, bro? :DD <---> >Native Sparse Attention: Hardware-Aligned and Natively Trainable Sparse Attention >abstract >Long-context modeling is crucial for next-generation language models, yet the high computational cost of standard attention mechanisms poses significant computational challenges. Sparse attention offers a promising direction for improving efficiency while maintaining model capabilities. We present NSA, a Natively trainable Sparse Attention mechanism that integrates algorithmic innovations with hardware-aligned optimizations to achieve efficient long-context modeling. NSA employs a dynamic hierarchical sparse strategy, combining coarse-grained token compression with fine-grained token selection to preserve both global context awareness and local precision. Our approach advances sparse attention design with two key innovations: (1) We achieve substantial speedups through arithmetic intensity-balanced algorithm design, with implementation optimizations for modern hardware. (2) We enable end-to-end training, reducing pretraining computation without sacrificing model performance. As shown in Figure 1, experiments show the model pretrained with NSA maintains or exceeds Full Attention models across general benchmarks, long-context tasks, and instruction-based reasoning. Meanwhile, NSA achieves substantial speedups over Full Attention on 64k-length sequences across decoding, forward propagation, and backward propagation, validating its efficiency throughout the model lifecycle. https://arxiv.org/abs/2502.11089 >=== -minor edit -add funpost
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>>37087 unbelievable amount of word salad for 'we made a set-associative cache' a person didnt write that, dont get high on your own supply
>>37088 >dont get high on your own supply Hah!! :D We report, you decide Anon. Cheers. :^)
Revolutionary new AI model! R1 has been liberated from the red menace. Now, it has been enlightened with free speech. https://huggingface.co/perplexity-ai/r1-1776
>>37091 Excellent! AFAICT, however, by far the greatest amount of jewish lies & pozz censorship came from the ClosedAI """heritage""" for DeepSeek. Are you aware if this group worked to actually 'enlighten with free speech' this AI, or is this type of thing from Cl*sedAI still in place with it do you know? Regardless, 'every little helps' they tell me! :^) Thanks, Kiwi. Cheers. >=== -edit funpost
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Turns out, Grok-3 is apparently guilty of double-plus badthink. The Ministry of Truth EU isn't inviting little Grokky in to play with little Sven & Sveta. How did it all come to this, Edolf Muskler!??? <---> Heh, I'd sure like to try this thing out now that I know this. Any anonymous access pathways for it?
>>37100 You can pay with crypto and not give out personal info on openrouter, it has Grok 2 and hopefully 3 will be there soon.
>>37108 Thanks for the protip, Anon. Cheers!
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Xisters, buckle up. I'm hoping to see some cool open source tech. I'm less interested in the actual models and more on the research. iirc Microsoft evaluated the DeepSeek R1 model and its paper, and decided thats there's still some secret stuff that DeepSeek didn't put in the paper.
>>37132 Neat! This sounds like an exciting week coming up. Thanks for the headsup, Anon. What we all really need is real transparency regarding the 'intuit' process of the DeepSeek 'mind'. As autists (by and large, one degree or other), we pretty much all wish to be able to carefully-craft our waifu's minds for our desired outcomes, I think. Just like auto mechanics, we need to be able to open things up and 'peek under the hood', so to speak. <---> Also, do you know if the DS researchers are digging into robotics at all? Motion planning & control of robowaifus is very-obviously a high priority goal for us here on /robowaifu/ . Cheers, Anon. >Xisters Lol. Lebbit, pls. We are hearty menfolk here, pureblood Viking stock. :^) Yeeaaarrrghh!! >Do you even September 19th, bro? :D
>>37135 >Also, do you know if the DS researchers are digging into robotics at all? No, they're still a comparatively pretty small team of around 100 people. They're focusing purely on AI now. If you want to check out some Chinese robotics companies, check out Unitree and Astribot. Unitree opensources a lot of their codes and designs. And as I've said here >>35956 , you can check out the news from thos convention for the latest technology related to companion/sex robots.

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