>>39713 >If I may, I'd only ask for one favor - could a regular anon make the thread? Certainly. <<< REQUEST >>> @Greentext anon || @Kiwi Can you create a new thread-related for this series of discussions, please? TIA. ( >>39705, >>39708, >>39710, >>39711 ) --- update: Done. (cf. >>39717 ) <---> Cheers, Anons. :^) Forward!

>>39712 >pneumatics been considered Yes. Like hydraulics they are inefficient and noisy. Control is difficult because of the spring effect of pnumatics. There's a robot somewhere on here that has good movement with hydraulics but when you hear the sound it's ear splitting. Pnuematics would likely be the same. Pneumatics is also power hungary. The expansion and compression of the gasses heats things up. And even though I damn pnuematics and hydraulics it may very well be that this is the only way to get something that's super cheap and maybe some way could be thought up to lower the noise level and power usage. I could see pnumatics being super low cost because it's a bunch of bladders that can be cast. Make a mold and you could rapidly inject the whole waifu muscle system in one shot. You can makle pnumatics contract with a bladder thta is constrained by a stiff net like a fish net made of wire steel as an example. The air blows a cylinder into a ball and contracts. Here's some links here that shows this, >>1422 >>1609 >>5336

>>39712 >>39728 I assume linear electric motors were too weak/slow?

>>39736 >I assume linear electric motors were too weak/slow? No. Let's look at some numbers. So 100 Watts to Foot-pounds-force Per Second = 73.7562 That's a lot of force 73 pounds Tesla 3 motor output = 258KW(345HP) at 27.99Kg(60lbs.) 302 lb-ft of torque but a human rarely puts out more than 400 watts in peak. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_power So the tesla motor puts out 4300 watts/pound and human puts out(at 250watts and 200lbs.), 1.25 watts/pound So electric motors can be VERY powerful per weight. Maybe I'm wrong but the problem I see it is that winding these coils is the problem. A really kick ass overview of "exactly" what it takes is in this video of a Chinese drone motor factory. "These drone motors can carry a car! - Strange Parts" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ9eZPoWJkI The whole thing is well worth watching but specifically on coils see, 13:13 for by hand 12:48 a machine and don't forget they are using rare earths which would entirely break the budget for us because of cost and Chinese suppliers would, I suspect strongly, get lower prices AND preferred supplies. So rare earths are out. But I say they are not needed because we can get good performance from magnetic reactance motors. Basically the attraction of metals to magnetic fields. The problem is these coils. First you will likely have to get the wire from China and then you have to wind it. There are. I think, solutions to the winding. Here is a serpentine coil wound from one big single loop from the extraordinarily wonderful and magnificent Robert Murray-Smith whose work is impossible to praise enough. "1859 A Serpentine Coil - How To Best Make it" "1929 Serpentine Coil Winding Jig - Robert Murray-Smith" "1800 Super Easy Coil Winding - Serpentine Coils For DIY Generators" "1801 Winding Star (Faulhaber) Coils And Making Litz Wire" I may have missed some. All are good. Some possibilities I've thought of. Use a silver soldier with low resistance and then use molded armatures and rotors/actuators that then have the soldier injected into spaces that are pre-made. So use a mold with built in spaces, melt in soldier and you have coils integral to the part. Now this soldier is not cheap. You might be able to make your own from junk silver coins at USD $36.96/oz (present junk coin silver price). Maybe mix it with other metals. Now this is expensive but for coils you might not need a lot and it's certainly cheaper than rare earth minerals. Another possibility is aluminium. Now all this may seem a bit troublesome until you look at all these Chinese winding this stuff by hand or that slow ass machine winding coils. There's a limit to the speed of these things without breaking the wire and the wire itself is not cheap. But once again when you have the motor/actuator you still have to wire it up and control it. It becomes difficult. Not that it can't be done but this all breaks the $3,000 dollar barrier to cost. One avenue is to sell it as a kit with a pre-made harness and let people wire it up themselves. Might work but it would vastly limit the market. However it could be a good start to make some revenue while you find a way to automate the rest. and I need to add to be specific >>39712 >pneumatics run cooler I do not believe this to be true. Maybe I'm wrong but from my reading pneumatics waste a lot of heat. The part that confuses people is that when you compress the air all the extra heat made is forced out of the reservoir. So you might think there's not heat lost but it's just lost where you don't see it. As actuators are activated with pneumatics it actually absorbs heat and becomes cold. Large industrial systems warm the air to get extra kick out of them. See for yourself. Here's likely one of the largest collection of air car and other air driven machinery sources on the whole entire internet. This guy obsessed about air cars for decades and collected all this info about them. https://web.archive.org/web/20241027101226/https://www.aircaraccess.com/index.html

>>39754 Kindly reminder this is the Propaganda thread, Anons. Please move these acuators discussions to it's thread. TIA.

I'm currently conceptualizing some new advertisements YouTube Video: "POV: Dinner Date with the Galatea Maid Robot v3" Poster: "This could be you!" (Poster of me on Galatea's lap, with my face covered by black ink with white text saying "This can be you!"

>>39762 That sounds appealing, GreerTech. Good luck! :^)

There's this trend on Twitter of people getting horny for the B1 Battle Droid from Star Wars. (For casual fans: the robots in the prequels that go Roger Roger) No I don't believe it either Good news I guess. Robot waifus are becoming more popular. It's extra funny to me because I am a big Star Wars fan. I once described Galatea to my friend as "Female C-3PO with the design principles of a B1 Battle Droid". One guy here also compared robowaifus to Protocol Droids.

>>39762 Stole your poster idea for SPUD lol

>>39882 "(shakes fist) Oooooh I'm steaming, I'm fixing to get angry!" ------- Haha nice! I made a bordered version to fit more standard social media

>>39882 >>39883 SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY.mov :D

The best success I have had is with Twitter and YouTube

@Chobistu, you should make an official /robowaifu/ Twitter account

>>39960 You're not the first one to try getting me to do that, GreerTech. I seriously considered it once Elon Musk kicked out all the glownigger usurpers there. But today I simply don't have the time/still don't have the interest. Feel free to do so yourself Anon. You have a good interest in propaganda for us here so yea. Have at it with my blessings. Cheers. :^)

This right here could be a powerful meme to encourage the use of local models.

>>39972 That's a good point, Anon. I doubt it would have much effect on Anons who've been around a while, but for newer ones (& normalfags) it just might have an impact. Good thinking, Anon. Cheers. :^)

>>39972 Here u go have dis

>>39979 TopLol :DD >"Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?"

>>39979 Oh that is very good. Maybe make one where Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg are dressed in a pimp costume.

>>39983 On second thought that might make them look cool and give them an image to play into.

What happened to the IRL posters? I'm pretty sure the riots are long dead by now

>>40198 That was me and I had a health scare recently. Things look better and I think the meds right. I still have the stickers and they will be going up. Progress on the mycomaterials is going slow, but steady and I am speaking to possible candidates for the fraternity I have envisioned.

>>40199 Alrighty. Take all the time you need. Get well soon!

>>40205 Thank you. I'll be on my feet again soon.

This would probably the right thread, right? I wanted to raise the issue of over-eager or victory-starved "Robowaifu Technicians" getting lost in the sauce and accidentally getting recruited to work to the detriment of everyone. For example, people who think that Elon gaining prominence means that *they* are winning. There are some serious issues to be discussed, with serious ramifications, and I can't stress how important it is for people interested in the "robowaifu" topic to be aware of the dangers of being exposed to *enemy* propaganda, as well as the forms it might take. Trial post to see if mods delete it for disagreeing with them.

>>40457 Sure this thread is OK. /meta would be even better. --- So, IMO your points are not lost on OG Anons here on /robowaifu/ , though these are probably valid concerns for newcomer Anons. However, we're all basically autists here (basically) so don't be leading, just be blunt, Anon. What >*enemy* propaganda are you referring to?

>>40458 ...just do be clear before I do switch over to meta, you DO know which thread I came from, right?

>>40459 You can just stay ITT, Anon. It's related.

>>40459 >>40460 sure, I'll begin shortly >...just do be clear before I do switch over to meta, you DO know which thread I came from, right? ...because if you don't, then that means I had my posts deleted in the other thread by - I'm assuming - automation, but that would be odd since deletion times varied drastically. Unless you have jannies, but you're not exactly 4chan-sized and you probably don't get raided a whole lot, so idk how staffed you are.

>>40465 We have 3 mods here. Robi has some automated systems in place, IIRC.

>>40467 Well idk what it was, but I sure do hope it was automated and not just a guy. Coming over from the Emmy thread, this is related to the Asmon discussion but in a broader context. This isn't unique to the "robowaifu" topic, desperate people clinging to hints of support is common in other communities too (that is a large part of why some people thought Kanye's Hitlersong meant they were "winning"), but I've found that some "robowaifu"-inclined people seem to be especially vulnerable just because of, for example, skewed priorities. Not singling you out, if the Asmontalk association gives you bad taste.

>>40469 >but I've found that some "robowaifu"-inclined people seem to be especially vulnerable just because of, for example, skewed priorities. Again, please don't be coy Anon. Just spell out clearly what you think these (apparently) deceptive/manipulative notions are. Bonus points if you can offer solutions.

>>40470 This might be a little all over the place, I'm trying to sum up a couple of mental threads at once and it's also so late it's early. There are some things to define and establish beforehand: - that the Western mainstream is actively working to the detriment of the West - that functional human artificial wombs won't be a thing in the foreseeable future (who knows, but that's what I think - and too often have I seen them being used as a lazy conversational fix-all to treat the idea seriously at this point) - that the current mainstream will eventually be overturned and made right - that healthy human relationships are possible circa 2025 - that I'm formulating this in the context of my view of what "robowaifus" should be - companions for people who wouldn't have been able to find human mates anyway, not a replacement of women for all men With that in mind, I think it's necessary to realize that any *mainstream* attempts at popularizing "robowaifus", be it actual robots or hallucinating LLMs, must necessarily have a malicious ulterior motive. Nearly anything that is being covered in not-extremely-negative light either was designed as, or is in the process of being turned into something that is bad for society. As was the case with feminism, as was the case with widespread pornography, as was the case with Hollywood, as was the case with modern wars, etc. - some were based on (seemingly) good grounds but were used for ultimate evil. The example I provided in the Emmy thread - of "robowaifus" being in danger of getting co-opted by the "LGBTQ2S+" movement is one possible scenario, and I think you can already spot hints of these sentiments now, especially with LLMs finding a surprising companion usecase with some women. The basic idea - for me - is that the GOOD robowaifu creation either comes as a collection of individual efforts (like here) where each participant has already decided on it before joining, or as an ethically regulated attempt at empathy (ideally by the reconstructed mainstream that would regulate its spread and implementation). The BAD robowaifu creation comes into being as yet another tool in the arsenal of the enemy - something that is advertized as the cure for the sickness it actually helps spread. When a "robowaifu enthusiast" is concerned about the GOOD things, like helping the lonely and simultaneously improving the dating situation for others, he'll focus on this first and foremost. The GOOD "robowaifu enthusiast" would not be enthusiastic about robowaifus designed to worsen the state of his society in the long run. The BAD "robowaifu enthusiast" either sees robowaifus as a good means of achieving other goals, or is too desperate for a robotic companion to notice any attached strings - in the first example, the enthusiast will recognize and promote the current mainstream trends despite their obvious eventual side-effects, and in the second example he'll be too tunnel-visioned to notice. ["incompatible" means someone who is seemingly normal but chooses not to mate with anyone for reasons other than classical "inceldom"]

>>40480 Great post, Anon! I'll plan to make some time to carefully consider your points & to attempt giving you a thoughtful response in exchange. Cheers, Anon! :^)

>>40480 it IS all over the place, I'll probably be able to do better in the future. It's a tough idea to internalize because it means consciously rejecting what seems like a dream come true - the mainstream popularizing robowaifus, but it must be done. When THEY do it, it will be for the same reason as mass migration, the same reason as eternal inflation, the same reason as cultural decay and hookup culture - making it even harder to form healthy families and rear children. Some people think - this is an idea I've seen popping up from time to time - that whenever the mainstream rolls out its BAD robowaifus, the "true" robowaifu enthusiasts will just jailbreak them and live out their favorite manga plot. I think that this is a case of tunnel vision. A case of someone prioritizing the faint hope of getting their robot companion over the ultimate evil inflicted upon the rest of society. I should have mentioned that for all these reasons I am also fundamentally opposed to any mainstream development of robowaifus UNTIL the eventual overturning of the mainstream - only then will robowaifu development be able to be done in an ethical manner and not used as a weapon.

>>40480 Here's the thing... The "Bad Ending" scenario has already happened. There already is a MASSIVE wedge between the sexes, and both sides are constantly firing shots, and it has been that way for over a decade at this point. Women have had sex toys for decades, and they're no longer hidden, they're displayed proudly in Walmart and Walgreens. Women have gacha games with periods trackers on the app store so virtual boys can woo them. And I haven't even touched on the wider gender wars, whose massive implications mean zoomer men are some of the lonliest and abused men in history. Look at any social media, most young women have no empathy whatsoever for men, and a good portion of them are outright misandrist. Over the past few months, a group of feminists worked with credit card companies to censor video games on such a wide scale, people of all political sides banded together in outcry. If anything, we're just leveling the field. The robot provides competition, an eternal fallback if anything goes wrong. If anything, it would increase confidence, if you didn't get Stacy with you "Will you be my Erika?" poster, well at least you have a Galatea v3 waiting for you. >"Turn the permanently lonely into our preachers" Why not? If you have a cure for a lifelong chronic illness, would you not want that cure to be shared? >"drive a new wedge between the sexes" That's like saying in 1945 "The atomic bomb may drive a wedge between US and Japanese relations" Plus, a San Francisco-esque Code of Conduct leaves a very bad taste in my mouth.

>>40496 >The "Bad Ending" scenario has already happened. There already is a MASSIVE wedge between the sexes In a way, civilization has been in danger ever since Europe lost the second world war. The people who won that war have been in power ever since and it is their machinations that have caused most of the issues that you would like to resolve. >both sides are constantly firing shots by design, yes - women are turned against men and men are turned against women. >it has been that way for over a decade at this point try multiple decades. >Women have had sex toys for decades, and they're no longer hidden, they're displayed proudly in Walmart and Walgreens. Part and parcel of Global Weimar, along with the popularization of promiscuity, transgenderism, etc. Men have crippling porn addiction. Some men have the easiest time on the sex market, destroying both them and the women they couple with. The point is, this degradation affects both sexes and in fact stems from a fundamental weakness of an entire past generation of men who should have known better and prevented it from happening. This strength is dormant but is close to being reawakened. >most young women have no empathy whatsoever for men I'll be honest with you, chief. I don't think most women had any empathy for men at any point in history, that's just how they function. I also think that past generations of men consciously or subconsciously knew that, and just didn't care much. Yes, it fucking sucks that Disney Love exists only in movies 9 out of 10 times, but giving up because of that disappointment is a sign of personal weakness - a sign of personal weakness that I'll freely admit to myself. You have to be aware that there still are men out there who know how women work, and know how to put them in their place despite it all. >a good portion of them are outright misandris there are posts on this board at this moment recounting how their posters hate women. Again, this is being intentionally imprinted onto both sexes - though it manifests in different ways because, obviously, the two sexes are different from each other. >The robot provides competition, an eternal fallback if anything goes wrong. That is what I talked about - when used in a moral way, that is without any malicious ideology behind it, robot companions would be an empathetic way of helping society re-regulate itself. If a man (or maybe also woman?) was pushed away hard enough to the point of becoming permanently lonely, at least there would be a crutch in place to dampen the trauma. This would of course be recognized by the people at large, and paired with other means of steering them back towards a healthy functional mode of being, would hopefully make them less... "modern". >Why not? If you have a cure for a lifelong chronic illness, would you not want that cure to be shared? I'll be blunt, do not take this for an insult. I'm a eugenicist at my core. I think that policies and actions that have a eugenic - upbringing - effect on my people are good, and policies and actions that are dysgenic - that have a degrading effect - are bad. In the current, amoral world, loners recruited as these "preachers" would fecklessly preach an ultimately evil, dysgenic, doctrine of furthering the societal rot, presented to them in an appealing format. Basically, it's like serving a dog poison mixed into its seemingly tasty food, but in a way that somehow then makes the dog spread the poison even further. In the coming moral world, however - this is the blunt part - in the coming moral world, in which all efforts have been made to steer society back on the right track, towards a society in which the formation of healthy families is not made harder but easier - if someone still manages to be absolutely, unquestionably, hopelessly, permanently lonely in THAT world, then they are not the kind of person you want influencing the opinions of others. You want them isolated and pacified with a robotic companion, but somehow "in the closet" and out of the normal families' earshot. >That's like saying in 1945 "The atomic bomb may drive a wedge between US and Japanese relations" What I meant is "make the situation even worse", or "lay the foundations for the final blow". You're only claiming that the day is lost and that the situation is hopeless because you wish it to be true, not because it actually is.

>>40502 Even though there are definitely (((outside influences))) at play here, the matter of fact is that most of them are on the side of feminism. Also, people have free will. It's not like women were forced into being man-hating feminists at gun point. They could stop at any time, but they don't. They enjoy the power and inequality. >I'll be honest with you, chief. I don't think most women had any empathy for men at any point in history, that's just how they function. Yet another benefit for our robowaifus! >there are posts on this board at this moment recounting how their posters hate women. Yeah, out of trauma, rejection, and reaction to their misandrist actions. >(Eugenics paragraph) I'll be blunt with you also, I soundly reject that idea and find it completely wrong, and I believe you'll find that the rest of us will agree with me. Lonely people are not genetically inferior, nor should they be locked away and "pacified". Your "eugenic" paradise sounds more like a 1980's stereotypical bully jock/cheerleader describing their perfect society. Even in a perfect gender-relations society, robowaifus can serve as the competition, the fallback. This will ensure the total elimination of longhouse behavior, just like pesticides make sure a bug-free house stays bug-free >would fecklessly preach an ultimately evil, dysgenic, doctrine of furthering the societal rot Again with the persecution of the lonely and outcast. Did you just finish an internship at Collective Shout? Must I remind you this is an Otaku board? >What I meant is "make the situation even worse", or "lay the foundations for the final blow". I hope robowaifus are the final blow! I hope that in this gender war, I am J Robert Oppenheimer, and Galatea is Little Boy and Fat man

>>40503 >Even though there are definitely (((outside influences))) at play here, the matter of fact is that most of them are on the side of feminism Correct - since feminism is one of the tools in their arsenal, one of the tools they have reared from its conception. >It's not like women were forced into being man-hating feminists at gun point. The female psyche was used against them. Notice how sluts, whores, and other degraded women don't really tend to be happy in the long run? They're being used and discarded, they're being taught that working to their detriment is actually working to their benefit - an obvious lie. You take back power and authority, you can guide women back towards any path you so choose. They choose evil, the men of the future will choose good. >Yet another benefit for our robowaifus! you dishonestly disregarded the latter part of that section. Men can't love women the way women can love men - and women can't love men the way men love women. Men have not cared about this disparity for most of history. >Yeah, out of trauma, rejection, and reaction to their misandrist actions. I'll leave this without comment. >I'll be blunt with you also, I soundly reject that idea and find it completely wrong, and I believe you'll find that the rest of us will agree with me. I think that this comes from you being uninformed or Catholic, I'm open to explaining this point further. >Lonely people are not genetically inferior, nor should they be locked away and "pacified". In the scenario I described - in a society that allows healthy people to form healthy relationships, people who still end up as rejects clearly simply were not meant to reproduce - for whatever reason, might even be bad luck. Today's loners are not the loners I talked about being best left to robots. >Even in a perfect gender-relations society, robowaifus can serve as the competition, the fallback I already commented on this twice - please don't be a mental automaton and force me to repeat myself a third time. >Again with the persecution of the lonely and outcast. Quite the contrary - I wish to prevent today's outcasts from being lured into serving their enemy. You seem to be striving for the opposite, what with what amounts to a "you're a woman!" accusation with that internship remark. >I hope robowaifus are the final blow! I hope this was just yet another case of you misunderstanding some part of the post, but if you truly wish to take the side of your own enemy then you are beyond reason and are, therefore, essentially worthless.

>>40504 We're getting way off track, and you're constantly twisting my words, plus I still disagree with many of your points, so let's leave it at that >what with what amounts to a "you're a woman!" accusation with that internship remark. Then don't talk like a woman :)

>>40506 >Then don't talk like a woman :) Don't talk like a spiteful loser :^) See where this gets you? So far, you have managed to ignore uncomfortable parts of my posts in order to skew them to your advantage - repeatedly, use childish pokes on the level of "you're stupd", and then even proudly proclaimed your support for the system that causes your issues in the first place. And at the end of it all you even tried to flip it around and suggest that I were the one who twisted words here. GreerTech, I don't think I'm interested in further discussion with you, I'll just wait for someone else to stop by at some point. I wish you good luck in any endeavors that don't endanger anybody but yourself.

>>40508 >Don't talk like a spiteful loser :^) Rather be a "spiteful loser" than a longhoused simp >then even proudly proclaimed your support for the system that causes your issues in the first place. Never did, that's just plain lying

>>40510 >Never did, that's just plain lying

>>40511 Yeah, I would be making the final blow, against feminism and for men, just like the atomic bomb ended the Pacific front. Were you not able to understand that analogy?

Guys This is a really interesting dialog, but I'm going to have to put it on hold for the moment. >tl;dr I'm not at all trying to squelch debate, and I'll unlock the thread again soon enough. I just want to give both parties some room to cool off a bit. After all we're a cooperative community here, not a strife'g one. I want to keep it that way! Leader's Privilege. :^) <---> Having said that, I actually understand both positions fully (I believe). I agree & disagree with elements of both, so I guess I'm kind of a third position! Let's pick this debate up in a couple days or so. I hope we can all come to a consensus here, because this is really an interesting (and important!) set of topics being discussed. Cheers, Anons. :^)

OK, unlocked again. Let's keep things civil, alright? Cheers, Anons. :^)

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>>40668 Highly based

>>40676 Thanks :)

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