>>37304 Raised the head to simulate a neck in this mockup

These are excellent, GreerTech. Nice work on your comp. I'll presume this is roughly to scale? BTW, have a link for your mockup tablet, please?

>>37308 Yeah, it's roughly to scale As for the specific tablet, it's found on AliExpress if you search up "tablet mini kids" https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806499447890.html https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256806243447481.html https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256807802234670.html

A problem I have with screen-face that I haven't really expressed before is that, besides the fact that they're cold, hard and flat, you have a lot of freedom. Too much freedom for me to the point I get choice-paralysis. With a real face you can make expressions that are just a combination of different muscle/servo movements, maybe some flushing red, and sweat, tears or drool for perfect realism. But with a screen you can make the face look like Kerfuś, or you can completely change the shape of the face, if not replace the face with something else entirely. That seemingly infinite flexibility seems like it'd be wasted without seemingly infinite complexity.

>>37315 That's something I thought about, but I see it through a psuedo-corporate/consumer way, and see it as a "selling point". Infinite customizable options. What you can do to prevent the choice paralysis is to distribute pre-packaged faces. One thing to keep in mind is that my design idea uses an independent tablet, so there are much more features, like security camera/motion detector, videophone, VOIP phone, running AI, playing music, controlling smart appliances, alarm, dictation machine, and much more.

>>37318 If you have a raspberry pi for a robot brain, and you have a screen face, you can even do things like use your robowaifu as a computer.

Personally, I prefer my well defined head with LED matrix eyes. But I'm definitely interested in experimenting with a tablet head in the future.

>>37305 Size is definitely a major problem to overcome. For reference, my research into measurements of adult women in Europe shows a head breadth range between 135 to 155 cm (51 to 63 inches in burger units). We should strive to have our head solution fall within these bounds. A cm/inch or two outside of those bounds should still be largely acceptable. >>37315 Why did you change my memes filename? Just use a face you like mate, doesn't have to be that deep. >>37319 My eyes are now open to the possibilities of joystick nipples and scapula bumpers and triggers. Using a robot girl as a PC has many fun avenues for innovation. >>37321 I can see why you'd prefer your current solution. I'd recommend expanding the LED's like Rina Tennoji's mask. Reposting the robot face study as it is still our best resource in robot face development. https://spectrum.ieee.org/what-people-see-in-157-robot-faces

>>37329 >Why did you change my memes filename? I didn't. It says "clipboardimage" because I didn't forgot where I saw it, googled it, and posted it directly from the clipboard instead of saving it. >Just use a face you like mate, doesn't have to be that deep. Gee, why didn't I think of that? /s

>>37319 Lol. >ywn with ur waifu's game-controller booba OH WAIT!! This is /robowaifu/ , of course we can! :DD >>37321 Yeah, dear Galatea's eyes are really cool, GreerTech. >>37329 It's going to take a delicate balancing act with the body+catgrill-screenhead, IMO Kiwi. The more-realistic sculpting on MaidCom now seems in some kind of disharmony with her head. Don't get me wrong, I LIKE THE HEAD. In fact, I really like both. Confer your pics-related ( >>37291 ), for an idea of my meaning here -- particularly #3... A Cute! >tl;dr I'm sure we can all distill this down to the correct balances. Let's all just be patient and stick with the problem together, yeah? >link-related Thanks! This is going to be great! Cheers, Anon. :^) >=== -add'l edit

>>37315 >too much freedom I understand your point, Anon. OTOH, I personally would highly-value the incredible flexibility that a screen face will offer. OTOOH, I too want a 'touchy-feely' faicu on my waifus. >after all, how else do you boop teh nose? :) >tl;dr It's why I initially pursued going for a semi-translucent, rear-projection face (eg; >>37268, pic #2). Regardless, as Kiwi put so well (cf: >>37291 ), it's a matter of what's feasible ATM. Eventually, we'll all be able to achieve D*sney-esque many-actuator faces for our robowaifus (whether going for realism or no). But for now, screen faces of one form or fashion are simply our best bet, both logistically & technically. Make sense, Anon? >=== -add'l edit

I was going through the artwork thread, and I saw this image I posted of a humanoid portal turret. It gave me an idea, what if you have one eye be a normal static camera, and one other eye be a small screen/LED matrix for expression? One for input, one for expression.

>>37336 Intredasting, Anon! Maybe go with eyepatch motif on the real camera eye (or is it the other way round? :D >tl;dr I find that men & children are generally incredibly-flexible about these things, given enough familiarity. >ttl;dr >"If you build it, they will come."

>>37338 Exactly. And it can be part of a cute robot aesthetic.

>>37329 Strange study, because the subjects love the Furo D, but the Snapchat bitmoji-esque face makes me feel like it'll sell my data and ban me for community violations. Ironically, the variant has a far more friendly and trustworthy face. But I do admit, I am one person vs a whole study, and I have my own neuroses that could alter my judgement.

>>37342 Mockup of what it might look like if Galatea had this system

>>37329 >>37331 You can get Galatea eyes if you search up "LED Name Badge"

>>37354 Thanks, Anon!

>>37357 You're welcome welcome :) I'm also going to add "Solid eyes", a 3D printed plate that looks like the LED version. This is for futureproofing for any Galatea builders in the distant future, as well as choice for "consumers" (consumers being in quotes because I'm not a business, but it's the closet word to describe people who willingly acquire and use my finished and curated product.)

>>37360 >You're welcome welcome :) Heh. :D my multipost, pls >a 3D printed plate that looks like the LED version. Oh, I see. Good idea. Cheers. >=== -funpost edit

>>37291 https://soranews24.com/2023/07/26/japans-cat-robot-waiters-meow-when-you-pat-them-and-we-find-out-why

>>37378 Purportedly, there are literally 10's of thousands of dear Kerfuś robo catgrills in service inside restaurants all around Japan this instant. Also any civilized society (like the traditional, Christian, White, parts of Evropa that still remain -- Poland, notably & obviously) can also maintain a sizable population of these service-style robots. Clearly places loaded with niggers (roughly all of Burgerland, the highly-kiked-up zones of Yurope, etc.) will not work at all for them in any kind of non supervised-with-armed-cops-closely-watching-over-the-affair fashion (this was already attempted in burgerland with entirely-predictable lulz as the outcome). I guess I'm super-stoked to see the explosive growth of these style of service bots coming onto the scene in just a few short years. This bodes well for robowaifu adoption in these same less-kiked zones of the world. For the rest of us, I suppose we'll work these things out as well go! :^)

>>37321 >>37329 I made a more accurate simulation of a 7-inch tablet on Galatea. Please note however, that this is just the screen, and not any borders

>>37431 Simulation with border and border w/ cat ears

>>37432 Nice work, Anon. That helps.

>>37385 >10's of thousands of dear Kerfuś robo catgrills in service inside restaurants There it is again. All these people protesting for illegal aliens, blue hair faggotry, stealing money to give it to Oligarchs and not a damn word about the paucity of "Fox Girls". This discrimination can not stand. I here by declare my complete boycotting of any and all "Kerfuś robo catgrills" in Japan. I refuse and reject them until we get some Fox girls to balance things out.

>>37452 "DOWN WITH CATGRILLS!111" "UP WITH FOXGRILLS!111" >:OOO <=== (this is Grommet's face when [flaming firebrand+pitchfork not shown]) <---> What about wuffgrils, bro? What about snekgrills, bro? What about <insert: every skeery/spoopy thing under the Sun from the /monster/ menagerie>, bro!? >tl;dr No moar brother wars, mate! Let's all remember who the real enemy is here. Until we all get our state-mandated, genetically-engineered catgrills for domestic ownership, we'll just have to make due as-is. :D

>>37454 Just in case someone doesn't get the subtext...I obviously don't live in Japan. And yes I do believe Chobitsu understood.

>>37457 :^) >not a resident hikki in Nippon <shiggity Well, what are you waiting for Anon!? >*[packs bags for those robomeido cafes]*...

>>37481 Wipes a small tear from his cheek. I have no foxwife.

>>37481 >>37481 >>37481 My apologies for baleeting your post, Anon. Actually I found the majority of your capp rather humorous. However, I want God's blessings on our efforts here on /robowaifu/ , not his curses. Occultism is something I'll have to oppose. I hope you can understand, it's nothing personal, and it's certainly nothing in opposition to foxgrils! :^)

>>37490 Based. Christ is king.

>>37500 Jesus is Lord Heh, did you know a convention of j*ws & purported 'Evangelical Christians' (of the so-called Christian Zionism movement) is being held to discuss how literally-Hitlers like me and you, by appearances on the Internets have absconded with the phrase 'Christ is King' for their evil, nefarious purposes!? :DD I wish this was pure sh*teposting; sadly its not.

>>37490 I'm mostly goofing about on the Foxgirls. It's an inside joke that's so inside only I know it. It's related to this great story called "Hiraeth" on 7chan.org elit. It's a sci-fi alternate society, time travel. A guy is transported to a different society and it's around medieval times technically. They have Fox girls there. He buys one as a slave, (not necessarily a bad thing there and he's a good owner compared to the times). It's expected for him to have attractive slaves as it influences social standing and if you are not of the right standing, someone might kill you. They also have cat girls and I think even wolf girls, not sure. It's a great story. Some sex but it's not overdone. Mostly it's about him navigating a totally different society and the Fox girl is very helpful. And yes I do find Fox girls cute also.

>>37507 Hehe. Greentext and I have a mutual fren who isn't joking about wanting a cute young foxgrill waifu. AFAICT, I've never convinced him to help out here at /robowaifu/ yet, but he'll be a great asset when & if he ever does participate, I deem. <---> BTW, Robin Hood (1973) is ground-zero for pop-culture of cute foxgrils (& the furfag movement generally). I'd suggest that the modern take on cute animu catgrills (et al) also owes much to that film! :^)

Some of the posts about different eyes/faces in the Propaganda and Recruitment got me thinking about Medabots again. I found out that in February they added the medabot named "Naughty Heart" to one of their mobile games. It's the first medabot in the franchise with a screenface. I don't really know how I feel about that.

>>37515 >I don't really know how I feel about that. What are the issues behind your concern(s), Anon?

>>37269 >Dishonorable mentions. Hmm, okay. But you can scroll down starting here >>31694 through all my AI generated faces, and take into account that there's no reason to make them not look more like that. It's not just your mentioned alternatives in >>37268 and >>37267

>>37529 It's just that the Medabot designs from the anime I watched back in the late 90's were simpler. They weren't all good, but a lot of the designs from franchises that are still around, like Medabots and Digimon, have gotten needlessly more complex over time. And the eyes of Medabots were usually just round or somewhat almond-shaped colored shapes, or otherwise some kind of visor. In the anime the eyes were often expressive in a cartoony way you'd expect in an anime, but they managed to convey expression just fine with voice and body language alone. Apparently in the past 10 years they started adding visible pupils to the eyes, and now they've added one with an expressive face. It just seems weird to chase a modern trend in an otherwise sci-fi series. I remember feeling the same way when Mega Man 11 had quadcopters as stage enemies. But the other thing about it that bugs me is the grid on the face. It's mostly obvious with that chibi twitter image, but the eyes aren't made with a grid of cyan and purple LEDs or something, but there appears to be a black grid overlapping the expressive eyes. I don't know if it's just an artistic shortcut or what, but it really triggers my 'tism.

>>37538 The Naughty Heart design is very busy, and the slightly chibi body proportions don't help at all. I didn't notice the faux-pixels, but now I can't unsee it What bugged me was that the "gems" on top looked like eyes to my brain.

>>37538 I see now, Anon. Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I can say that characters designs typically evolve over time, regardless the type of studio involved. Artists (and Art Directors, et al) get bored; the Current Thing(tm)(C)(R)(don't steal) catches the eyes of (((investors))), and they demand the studios shoot themselves in the foot to support it; fads change; etc., etc. Anyway, the topic at hand ITT seems to be both screen faces, and whether Ayylmao-style eyes are appealing. As to the latter, clearly there is an audience for them. Cheers, Anon. :^)

>>37539 >>37550 I think the designs just get busier over time because they started out with a very good template and eventually it just keeps getting harder and harder to make new designs that look good and fit in with the art style while still remaining simple, so the designs eventually become increasingly more complex as they run out of ideas. The female medabot designs also became more shapely over time, but I'm not going to complain about that. >the slightly chibi body proportions don't help at all. I mean, all the Medabots are about 3 feet tall, and are all supposed to share the same skeleton, so a chibi design is pretty much a given. >What bugged me was that the "gems" on top looked like eyes to my brain. Yeah, I think there's another design I saw that's supposed to look like it has Hikimayu eyebrows, and it just looks like it has two sets of eyes because of how it's colored. >Anyway, the topic at hand ITT seems to be both screen faces, and whether Ayylmao-style eyes are appealing. As to the latter, clearly there is an audience for them. I like the Ayylmao-style eyes for a few reasons; they're simple and utilitarian, and properly-shaped lenses can give them a wide field of view while keeping everything in focus. Screenfaces, while expressive, adds complexity and are power-hungry, at least to the extent that the screen is one of the most power-hungry parts of a smartphone. But I don't really know how much of a cost difference it makes. I've been thinking about out how to make a cheap little android about 3 feet tall, like a Medabot or a Servbot from Mega Man Legends that could help normalize domestic robots, while still being cute enough to serve as a waifu with some slight modifications, or until a better body is available. But I'm really struggling with the face.

>>37559 >cheap little android about 3 feet tall Not to toot my own horn too much, but that's basically what I'm doing. For the eyes, I use a commercial LED matrix (LED Name Badge). Flexibility and expression of a screen, but not too complicated or power intensive.

>>37562 And the cameras?

>>37563 I don't have cameras yet. I was considering maybe using a mini smartphone for the eyes, and have the camera on the side (phone front camera). I could also go for the medabots method. Maybe another idea is a hidden webcam for a multimodal AI in my PC.

>>37566 Yeah, I'm putting a bit more focus on utility for now. I'm more concerned with not getting so utilitarian that I just end up with mobile robot arms.

Are newer images just broken on this board? New no bully. My own design choice would be concave eye socket creating the illusion of eye contact while the iris is still able to serve as the opening of camera. I am not keen on creating expressive facial motions if I had issue reading and reflecting with them in the first place. No moving parts. Pic related. Occasionally they use less concave or concex ones for poses looking away from the camera.

>>37597 There was some file data lost. We're working on resolving that over the next couple days, Anon. BTW, we're all meeting over on our bunkerboard r/n, pending that exact resolution. <---> Nice work, Anon! Cheers.

>>37597 >My own design choice would be concave eye socket creating the illusion of eye contact while the iris is still able to serve as the opening of camera. Smart idea. It would allow for unique eye designs as well.