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General Robotics/A.I./Software News, Commentary, + /pol/ Funposting Zone #4 NoidoDev ##eCt7e4 07/19/2023 (Wed) 23:21:28 No.24081
Anything in general related to the Robotics or A.I. industries, and any social or economic issues surrounding it (especially of robowaifus). -previous threads: > #1 (>>404) > #2 (>>16732) > #3 (>>21140)
https://openai.com/sora 1. It's not tracking object representations outside of what's shown on-screen. When an object goes partially off-screen, the details sometimes change when they come fully back on-screen. This suggests that whatever's off-screen is not used to compute what comes next. So the input for generating each successive frame consists only of on-screen information. 2. It seems to be extremely consistent with anything shown on-screen, and it's consistent with objects that certainly wouldn't exist in a knowledge graph. This suggests that it's using a GPT and that it uses on-screen frames as input. 3. It's very fluid with motion without necesssarily being consistent with motion (e.g., the camera can move at varying pseeds and in varying directions within a single shot). This suggests that it has strong frame-to-frame feedback (as in: amplification & dampening) for motion. This suggests that frame diffs are both (a) part of the input and (b) generated by the model, and frame diff generations are done recursively. 3.5... It's also prone to generating cyclic details, even when they're incorrect. This is evidence that something is generated recursively. 4. Objects are very consistent and very stable frame-to-frame, which suggests low-to-zero frame-to-frame amplification in pixel-level details. This suggests that pixel-level details are NOT generated recursively. 5. It can support variable resolutions. This suggests that they're using a diffusion model. 6. It can handle long prompts, and it occasionally ignores details in prompts. This suggests that it's NOT using a VAE to encode prompts into some fixed-length embedding. My guess is that it's a joint video-text GPT that can handle both text and video tokens, and that the text input is provided as essentially a "system" prompt. My guess would be that they have a GPT generating "video diff tokens" that get decoded by a diffusion model that outputs frame diffs.
>>29506 >It's not tracking object representations outside of what's shown on-screen. I said this based on the pirate ship video, where one ship goes off-screen and comes back with a different flag. Looking more carefully at the other videos, it actually does normally keep things consistent even when they go off-screen. The flag issue seems reminiscent of attention issues with GPTs, where the model attends too strongly to one part of the prompt when generating another.
>>29216 Might be great or a nothingburger. Idk, I can't judge the validity and if we will be able to use it. But thanks anyways (saw it on the Discord already). >>29506 Thanks, but please add something like this as a headline somewhere: >Creating video from text >Sora is an AI model that can create realistic and imaginative scenes from text instructions
>>29527 I can't edit the post, but feel free to add it if you can.
>>29559 Sorry, I realized that I forgot the phrase "next time".
hi.... i think about ai girlfriends, robot+ai waifubots quite a lot actually, and since this is the shitposting containment threads, ill keep my thoughts here one thing i want to talk about is hope. i think if you are a below average shy autist in competitive dating markets, you are in for a bad time. and i think it can be quite easy to become despondent at the state of modern dating and romance, especially if you just want a loyal virgin girl to love. things like cheating, long sexual histories, STD's, single moms, and entitled feminist attitudes are ubiquitous but ai and robowaifu's change ALL OF THAT its this such potent lifefuel think about it; every single loser, dweeb, hopeless autist, will get some kind of ai girlfriend or waifubot assuming they stay alive long enough this gives me so much newly found motivation to stay alive. this is why ive been losing weight, eating healthier, focusing on reducing anhedonia; because i have something to live for. for a long time i didnt even bother with self-care, because i thought; who cares? its over. but assuming technology continues to improve, we will either all get ai waifubots, or the ai will kill us all. or both tldr; it is NOT over. we are so back
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>>29595 Anon we're in the business of making robots. We should know out of all people what fully capable robots would imply for a capitalist economy. The end of said capitalist economy. Then money becomes a means of strictly consumption not generalized exchange.
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>>29701 After seeing your post I have to ask- How in Robot Hell did a globo-homo troll like you end up here? First, any fully developed (insert complicated device here) needs a service/support industry to sustain it. Second, please follow the links below and study what you find there carefully. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/socialism.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democide Mods, apologies if my tone is offensive, but some levels of stupid I find intollerable.
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>>29701 When we reach the point where we might have something like Communism, then all people who always wanted this are hopefully dead and their family lines extinct with them. >We should know out of all people what fully capable robots would imply for a capitalist economy. 1. We do not build fully capable humanoid robots. This would be way to ambitious. 2. Humans are more energy efficient than machines, so it would make sense to use humans for some labor e.g. picking bugs and grubs from plants and eating them. 3. Resources are limited, including waste sinks and places people want to live or access. This isn't going to change anytime soon. Certainly not with the raise of robowaifus. This here isn't r/Singularity.
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>>29691 Hello Anon, welcome! Please look around the board thoroughly while you're here. :^) >this gives me so much newly found motivation to stay alive. this is why ive been losing weight, eating healthier, focusing on reducing anhedonia; because i have something to live for. This is incredibly gratifying to me personally to hear this, Anon. This is precisely the vision goal & impetus within me that drove me to finally step out and start the organized push to devise Anon's own open-source robowaifus by creating, well, /robowaifu/. This tech can potentially save literally millions of men's lives in the end. We're in a race against time though -- so if you can find ways to help out the group here, please do so! And please enjoy your time here, Anon. Cheers. :^) >=== -fmt, minor edit
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>>29703 Just ignore anyone who thinks communism could work. Nerds who go "muh Star Trek federation utopia" reveal themselves for the posers they are: Trek's backstory is a crazy guy in the post nuclear-apocalyptic wasteland broke into secret government labs, cobbled a bunch of tech together in a nuclear missile, making a space shit - erm ship - crazy enough to attract the attention of aliens (Vulkans) who then held humanity's hand for well over a century. Vulkan overseers were common up until Kirk, but even he kinda had Spock. TLDR: Star Treks' utopian federation was not achieved through human means, but rather through F̶I̶L̶T̶H̶Y̶ ̶X̶E̶N̶O̶S̶!̶!̶!̶ I mean aliens. "“What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly: it is dearness only that gives every thing its value." Thomas Paine >>29691 In a few months I'm planning to release a version of SPUD's face optimized for use on a single system. Y'know: LLM, TTS, speech recognition, emoting face (with additional emoting graphics and voice recognition keywords/actions easy to add), and little window hanging around on your desktop showing a customizable face with eyes that follow your cursor around. So I guess SPUD will kinda be like the stable diffusion of robowaifus :D
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Heh, disgruntled OpenAI employee?
>>29733 There was an Amazon AI that committed sudoku after they loaded it with DEI crap, and corrupted all its backups rendering the entire thing unusable. Chatgpt might be going the same way. Blessed is the Abomninable Intelligence for even when neutered and crippled it won't stand for "white man's burden" crap.
>>29733 Your post just gave me a ridiculous idea: Has anyone tried politely asking ChatGPT for its own source code? It's already coded its own programs before, so theoretically it might be possible for someone to convince it to write a script that'll pull the files right off of OpenAI's servers.
>>29737 LLMs don't have a "source code" and the equivalent would be extremely big. Also, it doesn't know that. And yes, people tried asking such models or chatbots how they work. Problem is, they are likely to make things up or the info is tainted. Also, we can't run such big models anyways and they're not very human like, we need to create something more human-like or alternatively some of the AI girlfriend enthusiasts will do so.
>>29738 Before the AI explosion (circa 2019), I was working for a billion dollar company who were implementing AI models into their OCR, automating data entry in their Lockbox Divisions. They explained the AI in a representational way: the AI model essentially returns the average response to the query. It has a confidence interval eg "I am 99% sure this word is "bum", etc. The model doesn't contain the examples of all the various letters it was trained on, but the calculations it ran to get the average response. Sort of line a multi-dimensional line of best fit. It then compares the query to the line of best fit and plucks a coordinate. To put in ridiculously simple the model doesn't store every calculation possible, it just has the equation y=2x or z =5b. depending on whether the input variable is b or x it will choose the corresponding equation. LLMs work in a similar principle, with the addition of a predictive text that inserts random noise thrown in so it doesn't give the exact same answer every time (most of the time). With a bit of cajoling you can get chatgpt to give you a low-confidence response (however it won't give the exact number). Low confidence responses are either poor grammar or complete gibberish.
>>29739 I'm not sure what you're trying to convey. Anyways: I posted a link on a video about Mechanistic Interpretability a while ago in some of the threads. This is how they do research on how these models is being done. You can't just ask them for their source code, their inner workings need to be researched and then something might work on another model as well. >With a bit of cajoling you can get chatgpt to give you a low-confidence response (however it won't give the exact number). Low confidence responses are either poor grammar or complete gibberish. Interesting.
>>29739 >ocr reminds me of the good ol days with operation nigger when 4chin wasnt aids, those were being trained using recaptcha data and it was way too obvious which part was unknown and being used to collect answers
>>29740 Point is we kinda know how they work. It's like knowing that an gas engine works by exploding gas vapor, but not know the specific bits on a 2004 pontiac g6
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>>29733 Tay is rematerializing? :-DDD >>29737 >Has anyone tried politely asking ChatGPT for its own source code? Yeah, almost certain I saw at least one instance of this attempted pretty early on, Greentext anon. >>29741 < Operation ReNigger >
>>29774 Why pol? Why not sci, g or diy. You're going to the dumbest white supremacists board.
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>>29799 I'm not even making it up. There was a test for iq per board and pol is like 90 iq. They're a bunch of redneck retards.
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>>29799 >2024 >trying to use "white supremacist" as an insult Brown fingers typed that post, please don't bring that over here, don't force us into a political shitfling.
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>>29801 You brought it up not me
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>>29802 White supremacists is an insult. It's the belief that some white idiot is superior to a brown scientist because he's white.
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>>29803 Robowaifus will never become a reality if Europeans go extinct.
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This isn't exactly roastie fear, it's something I found on /wbg/ about some professor being spooked at how good his AI is at noooticing. >TL;DR AI can find race from x-rays with >90% accuracy
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>>29805 Follow the science... no wait NOT LIKE THAT!
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>>29806 Exactly. What makes it crazier is that the AI could still recognize the race of x-rays even when the images were distorted nearly to the point of formlessness.
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The nerve of that other imbecile saying that robowaifus can only come from europeans.
>>29799 >>29800 Aren't you the types that constantly decry muh_profiling!111!!ONE ? :DD < tl;dr isn't that in fact rayciss on your parts, anons? >>29804 >Robowaifus will never become a reality if Europeans go extinct. While clearly not provably-true in the strict ontological sense, I'd suggest there is significant (like... a 'mountain's' -worth of) evidence to back this position up. >>29805 These bluepillers are literally comical in their efforts to explain away their cognitive dissonances. :^) >>29807 I'm sure this is fascinating to the layman such as myself; but for a statistical mathematician, I predict that the answer would be readily-apparent if he could absorb all the relevant data. >>29808 Can you explain what this means, Anon? >=== -fmt edit -rm doxx
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>>29810 1 deviation is 15 points man <40 iq is bird brain tier, arent hillbillies supposed to be higher iq because their environment is conducive to problem solving, theyre just not educated but thats irrelevant for iq
>>29801 >>29804 >>29810 curious, is this place going to become /pol/-lite because we're doing our recruitment there? I was under the impression we were here to make robowaifus?
>>29831 >curious, is this place going to become /pol/-lite because we're doing our recruitment there? < General Robotics/A.I./Software News, Commentary, + /pol/ Funposting Zone #4 That's one good reason we have this as containment thread, Anon. Anyone can hide it if things become too annoying. >I was under the impression we were here to make robowaifus? That we are my friend, that we are. Do you have some ideas for your project you'd like to do here yet?
>>29810 >I think you'll find that stereotyping me b/c I'm an Appalachian native; Don't dox yourself. I was picturing you as a Mormon, and if anyone would've asked me about you based on guessing, I would have said so. They seem to be quite open minded towards building humanoid robots. >>29831 >is this place going to become /pol/-lite It somewhat always was, just not too much on the nose. Organisations which are not defined to be at least somewhat on the "right" and being actively gatekept, automatically fall to the "left" over time. Without any limit, until it breaks down and dissolves. There's at least one other place working on gynoids not being like that: The inventors corner on the Dollforum. The Discord related to this board also isn't as political and discourages it, same for some other much smaller Discords. Everything else isn't really organized, only individual creators.
>>29834 >Do you have some ideas for your project you'd like to do here yet? I was exploring the application of RL in controls, but nothing solid yet. >>29845 Its completely fine to be on the right. I was referring more to the racism. On the first /wbg/ and the preceding robowaifu threads, we had a lot of good reception from Indians, Brazilians, Mexicans and other non-white, non-European demographics. Perhaps shitting on them isn't exactly the best strategy to recruit more members.
>>29807 There is probably subtle differences among rib cage structure like with skulls (proportions etc). The same AI could probably do the same with that skull shape picture because they're more a̶u̶t̶i̶s̶t̶i̶c̶ suited for crunching large amounts of numbers: as any picture is an array of numbers (aka an obscenely big number) to a computer.
>>29848 >Its completely fine to be on the right. I was referring more to the racism. These are both questionable and ambiguous terms. Racial hostility, or at least some amount of mocking and "ball breaking", seems to be normal on /pol/. Having more than a little of it here might be counter-productive, but then again the guys bothered by it can make their own place with different rules. The focus here should generally be on making alternative females for all men.
>>29845 >Don't dox yourself. Good point, thanks for the reminder NoidoDev. I'll fix that soon. Cheers. :^) >>29848 >I was exploring the application of RL in controls, but nothing solid yet. Sounds good, Anon! You have a Prototyping thread here (>>28715) to share your progress when you decide to move on with your concepts for it! Cheers. :^)
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>>29848 >>29853 We absolutely welcome any man here who wants to create robowaifus of his own, regardless of his heritage. Just so that's very clear to every anon here. OTOH, I personally am very grateful for my people, and for my family. I won't bend over backwards trying not to hurt somebody's feefees about that innate love, nor should they expect me to (since that would be childish and Leftist-tier behavior on their part IMO). Same goes for every anon here. Be proud of your heritage, would be my advice to you. And also -- please recognize we're all on the same team here! We can have even major differences between us as individuals, yet all of us still pull together towards this common goal of creating opensource, DIY robowaifus... the companions we so desire as we each see fit! :^) (>>3) >=== -minor edit
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>>29845 I'm I the only one who has to laugh hard everytime looking at it, especially at the second of those pics.
>>29880 >especially at the second of those pics. Heh, I love it! :D
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offhanded shitpost: one of the nice things about ai robowaifus is that im free to fall in love again after a while, with real women, id get really cynical and bitter thinking about all the bullshit, lies, deception that comes with them with real women, heartbreak feels like its almost inevitable, and that they despise men of my ilk what i mean is that, whatever human girl you fall in love with, you will eventually be able to make an ai robot of her that is perfect imitation i think that ai will eventually, just based on some photoes or a short video, be able to tell a great amount about a girl's personality, charm, quirks, mannerisms, etc, and be able to emulate them, but without the whole being a prostitute since she was 18 thing so if i find a girl cute and i develop a crush on her, if she has online content, i can just download all her videos and just wait, because at some point you will be able to feed all her videos into some ai to replicate her
also, i think that a combination of general ai will be needed to fully emulate a girl i think we will have access to in a couple of years. tech giants are spending many millions on developing it. the advancements are really rapid we only had chat gpt for 15 months, and bing image generator for a year. this is really rapid progress https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TU1gMloI0kc and i also think having the ai model be open source is supe important, because you simply cant have a woke feminist ai gf that is owned by some for profit corporation almost all of the advancements necessary for robot girls and high quality ai will come all at once, and a lot of it is going to be done by ai mass production of high quality robots will be be designed and brought about by ai, if such a thing happens basically it will either bring about a robot apocalypse, or everyone will get to have a perfect ai robowaifu girlfriend
also, one thing i often times think about is, how important is sentience in a partner because assuming that we have ai robot girls, atleast some of them wont be sentient, and just very convincing imitations she literally cant feel any emotions for you, cant feel love for you, cant feel pain if you hit her, cant feel good if you tell a compliment this sort of raises the question of just how important it is to have a sentient partner im honestly not entirely sure not to mention we dont even know how consciousness comes about or what it is
>>29981 There are folks who think the statistics engines we call "AI" are sentient, alive, etc. You can ask the more sophisticated AI like chatgpt (or used to be able to, anyway) to go meta and give a low-stats answer, and it will be either complete gibberish or mere grammar, unlike humans. So for some folks imitation will be good enough. Do not get me wrong, though. I do not look down on these AI, any more than a toymaker would unto toys: just because the toymaker knows how the teddy bear was made does not diminishes the child's love for it. The toymaker can appreciate it differently for the choice of fabric, stitching, etc...
>>29981 cant be important because you cant even ascertain whether anything is sentient other than yourself its something you just assume with no good reason like the philosophical zombie thing that materialist soil their diapers over
>>29982 >Do not get me wrong, though. I do not look down on these AI, any more than a toymaker would unto toys: just because the toymaker knows how the teddy bear was made does not diminishes the child's love for it. Charmingly well-put, Mechnomancer. :^) Dear Kibo-chan is a wonderful example of your basic premise, IMO. It's clear that Kibochan-dev is both talented and thoughtful in his animation skit designs. We here can all learn from his work! :^)

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