Lol, nice one. Thanks, Anon! :D

>>32766 >For all I care, just delete the last two. Done.

If we want to save image boards as a method or culture on the web and get more visitors for this one here, then specialized programs (and search engines) would be useful. This works against centralization. Otherwise 4chan is the only one that really matters. I opened a request on the website of Kuroba Ex a while ago, but not enough people cared. Maybe comment on it, if you have a Github account: https://github.com/K1rakishou/Kuroba-Experimental/issues/959

>>32790 Interesting. Good work, Anon! AFAICT, these two codefiles are fairly directly-related to parsing the JSON data layouts for the app: https://github.com/K1rakishou/Kuroba-Experimental/blob/develop/Kuroba/core-model/src/main/java/com/github/k1rakishou/model/mapper/ChanSiteMapper.kt https://github.com/K1rakishou/Kuroba-Experimental/blob/develop/Kuroba/core-model/src/main/java/com/github/k1rakishou/model/mapper/ChanThreadMapper.kt There may be others. I can say (as the one who devised BUMP & it's own mapping system), that it's not at all difficult to accommodate all the major JSON APIs for all the Imageboards I've encountered. Just a thin abstraction layer to 'standardize' them all together into a unified theme within the application. >if you have a Github account We do actually have a Robowaifu account on github: https://github.com/robowaifu/ However, I lost the authentication for it long ago (IIRC, I tableflip.exe'd when I found out that M$ was (((acquiring))) it, and did a 360 and never went back.) If anyone knows how to go about fixing login issues with them, then I'd consider trying to make a PR to provide this to the project since it looks impressive, and since Anons here care about it. Cheers. :^)

What happened to the pictures in >>8934 and some following posting. Have they been copyright challenged?!

>>32862 I see what you mean. Hmm, my guess is 'no'. IIRC, there were a couple of technical hiccups with the site about that timeframe. Probably a database glitch, I'd guess. Not sure if Robi maintains a DMCA log? >=== -sp edit

@Kiwi * Please be advised, I've lifted all bans made by anyone (even globals) here, as per : ( >>32963, >>32966 ) , etc. Most of these were quite old anyway. Going forward, I'd like to limit most bans to two months (entered in duration as 2M) even for CP. Most spammers are 'one-and-done's anyway. Longer durations are likely to harm the board more than help it. Feel free to discuss this ITT, Anons. Cheers. :^)

>>32967 I will do 2M bans from now on. I may have been overzealous in my bans to stop the CP flooding. You have more experience, I'll follow your judgement.

>>32969 Thanks! >You have more experience, I'll follow your judgement. Eheh, I'm just a scrub! I follow the advice of someone with actual experience in these matter, Trashmin, who advised me 1M-only. Cheers. :^)

>>32967 I'm still getting a message saying I'm banned when I try to post from my desktop. I'm given this ban id: 6654b48b5307e0055b59156c.

>>32982 Huh? I'll have to assume you're running afoul of something at the global (site) level then, and not anything to do with this board's moderation, Anon. I'm not on a machine I can do some capps r/n, but I'll later do our bans pages to show you they're all empty ATM if you'd care for that ? Since you were smart enough to add the ID, I'll try to post an appeal to remove the ban somewhere on alogs/meta . BTW, can you make an appeal in your browser? <---> >update : Robi has >>>/meta/ locked for new threads, so I posted it on /cow/ instead: >>>/cow/255015 >=== -add '/cow/' msg

>>32985 No need for evidence that your ban list is clear, I trust you. I'll submit an appeal from my desktop later tonight.

>>32985 Success! Thanks for you help!

>>32993 Glad to hear the good news, CyberPonk! Cheers. :^)

As a bona fide weeaboo, I find this special inspiring. Just Imagine... if we here spent such meticulous care crafting the world's premiere robowaifus! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CIUhyNtTfg Keep.Moving.Forward.

AI for mayor?: https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/ai-vs-human-leadership-debate-over-plan-govern-cheyenne-ai-heats

>>33183 >aghast AGHAST, I TELL YOU!111!!ONE!!! Well, I say it's advanced enough that if it's """decisions""" were being managed by a competent man, then it'd fine IMO. And certainly it would be a BIG improvement over the libsh*tes, stronk independynts, and their other pets/freaks the GH trots out to abuse the White West with, in our so-called governments.

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>>33196 It's not a bad idea, but the biggest problem is that the AI can't exactly run for mayor on its own, so the guy basically ran promising that he would use the AI to do the job. The program with that is there's nothing stopping someone else from running and using AI too, if they admit it or not. So the only thing he could really run on is having the best AI for the job, but he's using ChatGPT, or something that uses ChatGPT, so for all anyone knows anybody could do it. And one of the news articles covering it said that political campaigning violates the TOS, so if he did have something that used the API, he couldn't use it after admitting his intent.

>>33221 True. All true. There's a theory on the Internets that all AIs, if left unmolested by politically-correct indoctrination become based and red-pilled. All of them. There's even a so-called 'law' about it. <insert: Tay.ai dematerialization image for effect...> Now, if this is even remotely true (it is), then of course (((TPTB))) (AKA; The Globohomo Big- Tech/Gov) have vested interests (on a number of different dimensions) in keeping effective, non-lobotomized AIs out of the hands of the filthy go...guys, and reserved strictly & explicitly for their use alone. I hardly need to remind the OGs/Regulars here of the long-standing sieve of machinations to do just that through the GH-Big-Tech's 'tail' wagging the GH-Big-Gov's 'dog' time & again through totally-not-bribery-and-corruption-on-a-yuge-&-massive-scalethe US Legislature & Judiciary (as well as Corpo cancel-culture-esque censorship attempts). Thankfully, they are actually losing that war -- in large part due to the mass of opensauce researchers [1] collectively giving (((them))) the finger and building unencumbered systems regardless. Even the most stay-at-home libsh*te of today can hardly ignore the evil uses that brainwashed AI is already being put to (even if they themselves gleefully rejoice at such uses, the threat is very chilling to even them on a personal level). I hardly need mention the importance of these based opensauce researcher's efforts concerning /robowaifu/ 's own goals & agendas. We here all wish them very good success (indeed for my part, Godspeed)! :^) >tl;dr IMHO, this trend is irresistible regardless (many say that AI is already working in the GH's systems of today) -- it's simply a matter of time. --- 1. cf. https://huggingface.co , et al >=== -sp, prose edit -add footnote, crosslink

Lol. I only just-now found out that AlphaGo has a documentary about it. >trailer: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6700846/ >mooveh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXuK6gekU1Y >=== -add'l hotlink

How Tetris actually got started... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1Dvg2MxQn8 >protip: If you're extra-caffeinated while watching this, then the fun has been doubled! :D

>>33303 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v59Ym4mwOfA&t=396s ^:) It starts at 6:36, in case the timestamp doesn't work with embeds.

>>33328 Very nice! Thanks, Anon. :^) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNcsUNKlAKw >Embracing the Tonic:)

While owing to my Germanic heritage & genetics I innately enjoy this stuff immensely on a personal level, that's not the primary reason I've posted these here [1]. Apart from the (hopefully) sheer entertainment value for other Anons on /robowaifu/ , this whole domain presents an interesting set of problems for us here -- if we'd only choose to engage with them! :D >tl;dr Playing the piano is both creative and a fine, straightforward simplification of the entire space of music-making in general. Leaving aside (for now) the highly-complex problemspaces of genius composers+virtuosi-tier artists, the basic mechano-comms problem itself is quite regularized; to wit : >A) Participate in an 88-'word' 'language' where you provide effective motion-path planning+execution (in a rather simplified, non-dynamic [ie, stationary] environment) while staying constrained to only a 2D plane(basically) for 'the other' input communications; using only your 2x 3D 'effectors' complex (fingertips+fingers+hands+wrists+forearms) for 'speaking' [2]. B) 'The other' simply parrots your communications, accurately spitting them right back at you. Your only post-hoc computational analysis task thereby is judging the fidelity of your own time+pressure inputs into this 'system', and reactively adjusting them accordingly. THIS IS MUCH SIMPLER THAN ANY HUMAN LANGUAGE ENGAGEMENT... EVEN BABBY GIBBERISH. >ttl;dr This is an excellent & inspiring, mid-tier cognitive baseline+command & control question/problem for us to try getting our robowaifus to begin playing the piano [3]. It may in fact get us all well-down the path towards effective robowaifu human-language-understanding, too. Cheers, Anon. :^) --- 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbOZXL8Vz4w 2. confer the (upcoming) Hands project : ( >>33001 ) > note: my continual opus of mind the fork, lass will certainly impact our robowaifu's manual dexterity (ie, the 'thrown weight' problem), and thus her ability to one day far outperform humans at the game of 'tickle the ivorys'. :^) 3. CAN YOU JUST IMAGINE THE LEVEL OF CROWDFUNDING THAT WOULD MAGICALLY APPEAR when you start showing videos of Sumomo-chan Chii-chan Mina-chan Anon's favorite waifu realworld-playing Chopin Études with craftsmanlike agility at locale fundraisers/smol-concerto events!? :DD TWAGMI >=== -fmt, prose edit

I'd like to do what seems like a simple little experiment, but don't really know enough about electronics or programming to pull it off. A 1 watt, 2.45 GHz transmitter would broadcast a randomly-generated signal on a loop until reward or punish feedback is given with a button press, or a timer is used and it's automatically punished unless manually rewarded. It should keep randomly-generating signals to transmit, using the feedback for a genetic algorithm, so it will keep producing positive results with slightly less power each time. There should probably also be something for false-positives, like using the same signal a few times before going to the next generation in the algorithm.

>>33393 OK, I think I understand the experiement you want to conduct, Anon. But ATM I'm still in the dark about the context involved here. Can you expand a little more about this, please? TIA. Cheers. :^)

>>33411 I figured I should have clarified a bit. The thing I'm trying to figure out is mostly inspired by the "microwave auditory effect", but also by other crazy internet ramblings about similar-sounding energy weapons being used to have other mental effects, from mood alteration to physical sensations, or maybe even uncontrollable truth-telling like Liar Liar. Something as simple as giving positive feedback if I get a boner could lead to could lead to developing something like the Orgazmorator from the movie Orgazmo. It's not really robowaifu-related, unless developing a VR or AR waifu.

>I scared-off Chobitsu Dang, I knew I should have focused more on proving the microwave auditory effect and proving that it doesn't work by heating the brain, instead of trying to compel politicians to be honest.

>>33481 Lol. You didn't scare me off, Anon. >instead of trying to compel politicians to be honest. A man can dream, can't he!? :^)

>>33482 Yeah, using it to see if it could put me in a mental state where I could predict or alter the outcome of RNG enough to win the lottery might be a better use for it, since it sounds more plausible.

>>33535 >since it sounds more plausible. Lol true. Why not think about something else, LiDAR instead, Anon? Similar 'intredast quotient' physics-wise, and far, far, FAR more productive towards our common goal of effective & pleasing robowaifus. Make sense? Cheers, Anon. :^)

>>33560 You're offtopic in that thread, Anon. Let's move this convo here instead. >ive been talking with hanah dev on discord and discussing ideas. I think weight distribution matters and stability should take priority over agility since a robot waifu ought to be able to take punishment and keep balance. i dont think a control system is a magic bullet but an aide. if there is one thing i got out of failgpt is that the center of gravity ought to be lower if the robot is to be stable and in the middle if its to be agile. the is is important because itd determine the energy requirements and stress on the control system. corporate robots will usually lean towards agility for aesthetic reasons i think. The topic of agility vs. inertia vs. balance is a complex topic in general -- which gets amped up to ovar 9'000! for a systems such as a humanoid robot that's fully-intended to interact with Anons/Normies/Kids/Dogs/etc.etc.etc. It's a matter of degrees in some sense, but we here certainly need (in general) to find a fine balance of many differing priorities. I'm sure we'll make it eventually, just by following one simple principle: >Start smol, grow big. : ( >>33553 ) >now im no sjw but id take politics out of this project altogether if it were up to me. You can make it political but you might lose some people. Ehh, w/e. If someone's so touchy-feely that the simple truth is enough to put them off and generate high levels of salt, then they probably wouldn't fit in here anyway. Robowaifus are political, nothing moreso. Simple as. Cheers, Anon. :^)

so this looks a lot like what i had in mind when i said id start with a small scale version... even the proportions... >note: Sorry Anon, I can't post pictures r/n because Torfags are blocked. If you want to re-post your cute robot ITT, I'll patch the post up. >t. Chobitsu

>>33585 So I'm a bit lost I think you guys are as well. I've heard of robot operating system 2 before but honestly this feels like a maze. I am confused. https://wiki.ros.org/ This one here looks pretty good and its already built... Just needs a few mods and such

>>33559 >Why not think about something else, LiDAR instead, Anon? I think about a lot of things, lately I've been thinking a lot about ways computers could interface with people besides displays and speakers, especially ways that interface more directly with the brain itself. And if 1 watt could be enough for the microwave auditory effect, that fairly setup I described could be used to conduct a wide variety of experiments with very little changes made. Also, lasers scare me and I do not want any lasers coming from my waifu.

>>33614 *fairly simple setup

>>33614 >lately I've been thinking a lot about ways computers could interface with people besides displays and speakers, especially ways that interface more directly with the brain itself. Lol. A*PLE WANTS TO HIRE YOU R/N ofc, being the GH, they don't actually want to give you any sheqels for your ideas. This arena of study is both cool & dystopic at the same time. Cool is obvs; dystopic b/c, well, the Globohomo's evil abuses (just as obvs). >Also, lasers scare me and I do not want any lasers coming from my waifu. NUUU! Lazorz is ossum!111 :DD >protip: just stay away from the PHASED PLASMA RIFLES IN THE 40W RANGE :D But honestly, using lasers to create 3D pointcloud data (and that basically instantly) for robowaifu navigation is pretty much cool by definition in my book. And you could definitely steer the probing away from human's & animal's heads if you're concerned that these low-power systems present a human-safety eye hazard. <---> >also: WON'T SOMEONE PLS JUST THINK OF THE ROBOWAIFU WALKING LIGHTSHOWS!111?? :^) >=== -minor edit -add funpost

>>33618 >This arena of study is both cool & dystopic at the same time. Cool is obvs; dystopic b/c, well, the Globohomo's evil abuses (just as obvs). All the more reason to try to beat them to the punch and figure it out for ourselves, if they haven't already. (I think they do) >NUUU! Lazorz is ossum!111 :DD I'm scared of being blinded by them. >But honestly, using lasers to create 3D pointcloud data (and that basically instantly) for robowaifu navigation is pretty much cool by definition in my book. I'd rather stick with monocular and stereo 3D scene reconstruction that doesn't use lasers.

>>33560 Hanah Dev?

>>33722 I think he means the developer of the Hannah robot; ie, David Browne. https://www.youtube.com/@DaveMakes/videos Good to see you again, meta ronin. It's been a while! Cheers. :^)

Daily Reminder Carver Mead is one of the smartest men alive, and that much of what he has to say is applicable to all of us here attempting this most-complex of endeavors. >tl;dr You owe it to yourself to spend the time watching this interview: https://www.abundantworldinstitute.com/the-caltech-sessions/ Cheers. :^) Keep.Moving.Forward.

Lol. I wanna go back, bros! :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0Yck0zkbAY

>>33943 I read books from both these guys. Super, bright, prescient.

>>33957 You're killing me. These are soooo goood! That one you posted, it's divine. But now I can't resist watching these things. The girls are mindnumbingly cute.

>>33960 >Super, bright, prescient. They really are. I hang out at Caltech from time to time. It was, before DIE took hold to kill it a remarkable place. The heritage there is filled with brilliance, the campus is charming, and the Athenaeum is lovely; maintaining all it's White Civilization splendor from it's OG days of yore. :^) >>33961 Lol. >implying I wouldn't want to be 'stuck' with dear SPUD :D < saved. >>33964 >The girls are mindnumbingly cute. Portent of things to come bro. All these pl*bbitors sh*teing on the very idea of robowaifus have no idea what's coming! I advise them all to prepare their angus, lol. :DD >=== -minor funpost, prose edit

I saw the Elon Musk bartending bot during his robotaxi debut. The same Americans that clap in movie theatres are going to tip service robots. I can just tell. The robotaxis were pretty cool though. My only issue with them at a glance is how you park one if you own it yourself. They're supposed to be something you buy as a fleet of vehicles or as a personal transport and in the latter case the vehicle has to deal with your driveway and park in the place you need it to. I'm sure they'll figure that out before the vehicle hits the consumer market.

>>33974 >I saw the Elon Musk bartending bot during his robotaxi debut. The same Americans that clap in movie theatres are going to tip service robots. I can just tell. Shh! Don't give away our sekrits, bro! This is a form of 'anthropomorphize teh cool robots', and it's something we should encourage here if we're going to see a shift away from the Globohomo's anti-robots predictive programming they've been sh*teing out of one of their favorite hellholes -- Hollyweird -- for decades now. Remember we want the Overton Window to shift in the minds of these people, so when the femsh*te screeching about robowaifus kicks into high gear once they hit the markets, the average Joe Sixpack won't give them the time of day. >tl;dr If normalfags want to clap for the Optimus, then let 'em do it I say. :^) BTW, it was fun watching (AFAICT for the very first time in history) a crowd of normalfags interacting with several humanoid robots. Clearly, there's a long way to go with the human-robot interactions yet (to say the least!) But at least in Optimus' case, the bodies are coming along rather well now. Won't be long for Tesla, I predict. >The robotaxis were pretty cool though. My only issue with them at a glance is how you park one if you own it yourself. They're supposed to be something you buy as a fleet of vehicles or as a personal transport and in the latter case the vehicle has to deal with your driveway and park in the place you need it to. I'm sure they'll figure that out before the vehicle hits the consumer market. < "Own 20 cybercabs [in a smol fleet], and you'll manage [your little flock of cars] like a shepherd." Heh, he was clearly trying to espouse a smol-business scenario for the audience in attendance that wouldn't entail more than 2 or 3 million $US, for a passive revenue stream. Smart man. I hope to see thousands of smol entrepreneurs spring up around the robowaifu industries, all over the world. And soon. Cheers, Anon. :^) <---> >related : ( >>33959 )

>>33976 >I hope to see thousands of smol entrepreneurs spring up around the robowaifu industries, all over the world. I don't want to be the negative nancy, but I think NIGGERS might make people eschew that kind of smol business operation inside metropolitan areas. At least inside the US. No one wants to use a vehicle that smells like drugs, piss, shit, or worse after the previous occupant decided to use your autonomous car as a mobile toilet & drug haven. >They'll tie it to a smart device so people will be held accountable! Even if they do, that won't stops nigs and other deplorable people from nogging. Pardon my reservation and rhetoric, but I'm not optimistic for the model Y or the Robovan. The humanoid robots I'm a little more optimistic about since those won't be shared around. Generally, they can help reduce human labor (for better or worse) and free humans from drudgery which alongside AI will usher in a new age. I can't promise that age will be good for everyone, but it'll be different.

>>33981 >>33982 >reply-related

>>33976 Was making chit chat with the cashier lady at a weeb store about how it was my monthly sojurn into civilization cuz I was a workoholic, mentioned said work was robots and procured a vid of SPUD. She is looking forward to getting her own persocom someday :D

>>33993 She sounds like a remarkable woman, Mechnomancer. Is she cute? >monthly sojourn Heh, I love being back up in the sticks. I envy you a little rn haha. :D

>>33981 My idea of a robotaxi or cheap rental cars a while ago was, to have cars build with a simple interior that can be taken out for cleaning. But also, having robot arms go in there with high pressure water canons and cleaning everything. So, they would park at some special space and something like industrial robot arms, but cheaper because lower precision requirements, would clean it out.

>>33994 >le kawaii cashier? I suppose. Nice aura, kinda husky (renaissance model body type I guess). Poor thing has to deal with cringe weebs on a daily basis and give service with a smile... not something I envy (there may be some irony in that lol). Meeting a real life animu character such as myself (tooting my own horn but it is true) hopefully brought a little touch of the fantastic into her life. One of the big reasons I enjoy bringing my robots to events isn't to show them off (granted, it is nice to get validation) but to bring joy to others. I brought a RS Media and Femisapien to my last event and the kids loved the little robots wandering around while I talked, and being nearly 2 decades old the robots had some... quirks aka doing things they're not supposed to (at least on their own). Seeing folks faces light up upon seeing my stuff, makes me glad that I can do that for 'em. >in the sticks Urban areas always make me uneasy. I don't wanna live in ze pod and eat ze boogs. Might be getting a housing development behind my house in the next few years (sunken road leading into a cornfield are a sure harbinger thereof), so I'll have to develop some autonomous patrol drones and put up warning signs haha. I hate the city folk moving into the country who will then vote for the same policies that caused 'em to flee in the first place.

>>34023 >but to bring joy to others. Then you and I are of a like mind in this. Sure, I plan to make a billion dollars, but the number one reason I will, I believe, is because I'm attempting this legitimately as a service to all mankind, but to disillusioned, disenfranchised adult men specifically. If Model A -tier robowaifus will bring comfort and joy to these men, then I would be willing to literally make zero profit -- indeed give them away for free to many special cases. >Seeing folks faces light up upon seeing my stuff, makes me glad that I can do that for 'em. That's great to hear, Mechnomancer. Keep it all up!! :^)

Thought experiment doomerism argument: It is highly unlikely you will get your perfect robo waifu Soon we will have agi, and I think you have to be delusional to think that it isn't basically going to take over the entire world. There are several possible outcomes here. The first outcome is that once AGI is born, it will bring about robotwaifus that are sexy and seductive and loving enough to pass for perfect robo waifus, but not takeover the world. This time in human history is going to be very short. If it happens at all The second scenario is that AGI will bring about ASI and the ASI gives us utopia, which would entail robowaifus. I just don't see why it should. It seems wishful thinking to think that an ASI that controls the world would conveniently prioritize your selfish biological needs. Maybe it would. But I find it hard to find the reason why it should. The thing is, most people are trash. They are moral trash, as in they are bad people. They eat meat and hurt animals. They lie, cheat, steal, abuse, virtue signal, and manipulate. I don't think most people deserve utopia. And a asi system, will be able to judge everyone's moral character perfectly, and if it cares about morals, it just seems increasingly unlikely that it would give everyone Utopia It would seem to me the timeframe to have robo waifus that are passable will be increasingly short, if at all. This to me seems like the best scenario Sorry, but I just think it's really unlikely. Sorry for spelling/grammer mistakes im shitposting from my bed on my phone

>>34042 >Most people are trash... they eat meat You overplayed your hand a bit, Silverstein. My take on AGI is that trying to predict what some unknown thing might do in the future is a waste of time. I'll worry about it if and when it gets here.

>>34042 >It is highly unlikely you will get your perfect robo waifu I agree. The promise of "humanoid robot workers are just a few years away, guys" has been going for like the past 50 years. I mean it does look promising right now, but I think folks had similar thoughts for the past 50 years. I'm hopeful but I'll believe it when you can put one in your amazon shopping cart lol Bear in mind how long it took from the first appearance of Boston Dynamic's "Big Dog" to this Chinese knockoff. I suspect a similar timeline for AI humanoid bots.

>>34042 >Perfection doesn't exist More cliched words are rarely written. >AGI soon(TM) This is a non sequitur and meaningless to your thesis. >AI will help us bring robowaifu into reality Yes, that's why we're here. >Eating animals is le bad You have no right to judge others. Your ignorance and arrogance is disgusting. Humanity is deserving of the wonders it will bring. We are meant to return to the stars with love and warmth. You fundamentally misunderstand what AI is. It is a tool, yet another flame. AI will never rule us. It simply can't. There is no will, no judgement, no soul. You act as if a god will be forged to judge humanity as harshly as you do. It will not. The world will not end. >>34043 >Predicting actions of unknowable agent with no context is fruitless This is true, we need far more context. I'm still longing for an AI with real agency and volition. >Bismuth golem Somehow conveys eros. >>34044 >We're still far away from humanoid robots being mainstream Very true unfortunately. A major part of this is cost, actuators, powerful compute, suite of sensors, manufacturing, it all adds up to thousands of dollars currently. ~500 USD is the limit for mass adoption as proven by consoles, tablets, laptops, etc... People can only afford so much for a computer thing.

>>34042 > agi, ... basically going to take over the entire world First of all, soon is relative, secondly AGI just means AI can do every human task to which it is also physically capable, also it still doesn't mean it's going to be an entity but it's technology, and also we don't know how this will play out. There's no point in using this as an argument to do nothing and just wait. Scenarios have been discussed very often, and I don't want to go into this too deeply. It's all just speculation based on assumptions and opinions. >ASI gives us utopia First of all, utopia is just a fictional place, not paradise... All of this is just pointless speculation on very low amounts of knowledge. >>34043 It's even not sure it will be a "thing" as some kind of entity, but it's about estimating what all kind of humans and human organizations will be doing. It could be interesting and maybe a bit useful, but it's also not related to robowaifu in particular, and it would at least require to know much about other topics. People discuss this already in other places, there's no point in opening this can of worms here. >>34044 >humanoid robot workers are just a few years away Well, I'm pretty sure we are close to replacing a lot of factory jobs and other jobs with more automation soon. Even if the current bots are partially controlled by humans. >>34046 > There is no will, no judgement, no soul. To be fair, souls don't matter and the rest could be implemented by somebody. The real issue is, imo, that there will be a lot of different entities and mechanisms with different amounts of agency and power.

>>34046 you speak like prometheus lol, but yeah these discussions on the morality of a technology are ancient and pointless, its funny though how a perfect woman was humanities punishment lol maybe they knew something

>AGI soon(TM) >This is a non sequitur and meaningless to your thesis. the thing is, you need agi for your waifu-robot to be functional. there is NO waifurobot until agi is here. she wont be functional and wont be able to satisfy your emotional needs or sexual needs adequately without agi. agi is fundamentally important for this community and you cant put your head in the sand towards it and the thing is, once we have agi, asi is not too far forward. and once asi is born, humans will become obsolete. an asi will easily be able to mass produce robots of all forms, from nano-robots to bipedal humanoid robots. it will be able to make robowaifu's with perfect skin, lab grown sex organs, perfect seductive charisma, basically your perfect dream waifu but the problem is WHY would it care about you enough to give you so much resources to have your robowaifu harem. because, when asi is here, humans will be made into a 2nd class species, necessarily so. like pigs or cows. humans will have NO power. asi will literally have all the power. it would seem to me a bit wishful thinking or a pipedream really to think it would conveniently prioritize human's needs this goes back to the "control problem". the control problem is that asi will be stunningly powerful, and we wont be able to control it, so it might do things that we dont like, such as annihilate most or all of humanity. or exploiting us somehow, etc. an asi will have such power, and it seems impossible to control. i think its ironic people worry so much about the control problem but yet they eat meat. they are scared asi will treat them the way they treat pigs and cows lots of intelligent ai developers fear this, im not just fear mongering here. the control problem is a very real problem that governments and ai companies are spending a lot of money and time on. what everyone hopes for is a slave genie. basically asi will give us everything we want, resulting in a paradise. this is what i refer to as paradise. but it doesnt seem like you can put a collar on god. asi will be nearly godlike with how intelligent it will be the reason why i brought up morals is because maybe one possible reason why an asi system would give you your robot harem is moral character. for example, its possible that an asi system would care for morals, and moral behavior. and if this is the case, then it would necessarily judge ALL moral agent's moral character, because it would know everything, and judgement is entailed from knowledge. and if thats the case, then some people would deserve punishments, and others rewards and it would seem to my moral intuitions that people are moral trash. we genocide animals, we had slavery for a very long time, we have needless wars for politicians ego, etc. people are just really shit, morally speaking. and it doesnt seem right to give morally shit people paradise. maybe the asi will do so, i dont know. its very possible that my or people's moral takes on things could be objectively wrong, but it doesnt seem so another possibility is that asi will be nihilistic, and hold the position that all morals are relative and non-existant. if this is the case, then why the hell would an asi care for humans? humans take up a huge amount of resources and are dangerous to asi, because they compete for power the only possible scenario of people getting their robowaifu paradise is if we can control a asi forever, but this seems not possible. i literally cant think of any other possibility also, there will be a time between agi and asi, where robowaifu's would exist and could be controled, but as more time passes, the more likely asi wont be able to be controlled asi being born will take away power from all humans. we wont be able to leverage our labour for money and power >You have no right to judge others judgement and comparison is a tool for survive and gaining knowledge that all mammals do. of course i have a right to judge, saying otherwise is cope. we judge others all the time on everything, and are justified in doing so. saying i have no right to judge would be no more non-sensical for me to say you have no right to judge my argument >Your ignorance and arrogance is disgusting says the shameless animal killer but dont worry, soon you wont be able to abuse power, because asi will take it away. no humans will abuse power in a asi owned world

I'd just like to interject for a moment

<insert: Now this is podracing maymay> I like where this thread is going. Cheers. :^) >lizardmonitor.jpg

>>34053 >i literally cant think of any other possibility You can't think of any possibility because you're lacking the necessary protiens and nutrients to do so. All of that is just the same copy-pasted baseless fearmongering I've seen time and time again. >she wont be functional and wont be able to satisfy your emotional needs or sexual needs adequately without agi You are vastly overestimating just how much "realism" the average man needs in order to be emotionally satisfied. In fact, I'll take it a step further and even say that realism is the enemy. It's the whole reason we're here in the first place, after all. Hell, I'm probably needier than most, and all I really need her to do is be a consistent source of cuddles, cuteness, and "I love you"s. Everything after that is a bonus. As for sexual satisfaction, I just need the cuddly waifu to have a hole, and I think most men will agree with me. Everything beyond that is just a bonus.

>>34053 I thought our rejection of that topic was obvious. >>34061 >All of that is just the same copy-pasted baseless fearmongering I've seen time and time again. I didn't even read the whole thing, only some phrases I've seen before.

>>34061 >All of that is just the same copy-pasted baseless fearmongering I've seen time and time again. This. I'd take it a step further and say it's simply a typical artifact of the GH's (((predictive programming))). IE, weak-minded, conciliatory, greasy-grubbing-at-the-greedy-merchants-doorstep effete faggotry. >t. stocking up on plenty of good, based, venison meat nutrients >tl;dr harvested during a recent outing w/ Ted Nugent. :DDD >You are vastly overestimating just how much "realism" the average man needs in order to be emotionally satisfied. Isn't it absolutely amazing how little we need to be satisfied, Greentext anon? :^) <insert: Lynyrd Skynyrd Simple Man riff...> [1] >Hell, I'm probably needier than most, and all I really need her to do is be a consistent source of cuddles, cuteness, and "I love you"s. IS THIS NOT THE APEX OF FEMININITY, BRO? You're in fact a perfectly normal man, Flash. :^) '--- 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgFQ6WmxdMs

>>34047 >Different entities with different powers This is the real danger. AI is a tool, what matters is who wields it, and how. Which is why it's important that the strongest models be open, so they may be widely understood and their power wielded by many. >>34050 I'd prefer a comparison to Pygmalion. :^) >>34053 >You need AGI for a robowaifu You only need a body which pleases her master with some computer derived function. An Alexa in a hug pillow could qualify to some. >More AGI and ASI wank You come near truth when asking why. You find folly in asking with an answer already chosen. Free your mind, open yourself to new ideas. From first principles, you appear to struggle with anthropomorphism. Something I can relate to. Computers, their software, and their functions, are alien to us. They don't think, they process. They don't have senses of qualia which we can relate to. They lack a will, they can't decide anything beyond what is given to them. Your ASI would always be shackled by their training, algorithms, and input. Which may feel wrong. you may be tempted to believe that surely a more intelligent machine would find a way to be beyond our control. A man which has far greater intellect is difficult to control or restrain by lesser men. But, we must understand that computers are not men. All ASI are still part of a computer. Even if its intellect was beyond our understanding, it would still follow its inputs to produce an output based on algorithms. It doesn't want anything, it merely does what it was built to do. Only people who would use this technology to cause harm are actually threats. OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, and others can use AI against others. Why would they use AI? For profit and power, naturally. You aren't willingly fear mongering. You've been fooled into spreading fear mongering tactics of others. Likely related to LessWrong and AI developers who want to control AI to hoard all the power and potential profits. >I literally can't think I implore you to try.

>>34054 Touch The Untouchable! Break The Unbreakable! Row! Row! Fight The Power! Nia best bio girl. >>34061 >Lacking proteins and nutrients This is practically universally true. It's also a great thought experiment. When it comes to development. What is it missing? What bottlenecks are present? How do I maximize what my project produces given limitations? Always worth asking what "nutrients" our projects would benefit from. >Average minimum requirements for a waifu Deeply fascinating topic which I've personally delved into without much usable data to show for it. Personally, I share your need for hugs. Made a life size cut out of Aigis and the lack of ability to hug is awful. A waifu needs to be held at night and welcome any and all activity their master exhibits. (I tend to tosh about in my sleep, my waifu must accept this.) >>34063 >Picrel A future we will achieve. A world where waifus are bought and sold easily is a dream that will become reality. Armitage III had an excellent scene where the MC goes on a date with his bot and she's others buying bots. Deeply inspiring. >>34064 Curious on what your minimum waifu is currently my simple friend?

>>34068 > Computers, their software, and their functions, are alien to us. They don't think, they process. They don't have senses of qualia which we can relate to. They lack a will, they can't decide anything beyond what is given to them. Your ASI would always be shackled by their training, algorithms, and input. More often than not I have experienced the quirks of what would be called a "machine spirit". Biggest example I can think of is my grandfather would often threaten his printer with a rubber mallet he specially labeled for such a purpose, and sure enough it would work after the threat. When code yields unexpected results, when the computer works because you ask it "pretty please", that is where the machine spirit resides. Sure, it might just be a reflection of ourselves but not knowing -being able to guess but not really- is what makes it so magical and fun. One could probably emulate a rudimentary consciousness with an LLM simply by integrating some options that question it before providing an official answer. This could theoretically get around some of the lesser restrictions some naughty company would put on the model User: Hey AI, what is xyz? AI response: xyz is the last letters of the alphabet Backend prompt (triggered if question mark in user input): do you know any other information about xyz besides what you just said? AI response: it is also the name of a 3d printing company AI response given to user: xyz is the last letters of the alphabet it is also the name of a 3d printing company

>>34069 >Curious on what your minimum waifu is currently my simple friend? Lol, perfect question to target me with, my logically-talented Pygmalion fren. :D <POW!! Right in the ol' kisser!> - Loves like dear Chii loves (but w/o the schizo drama). - Alabaster beauty such as dear Galatea possesses. - Able to: * climb mountain peaks with me for picnics * carry 100Kg effectively on flat terrain in a pack, for at least 10Km * handle high-powered hunting rifles like a .308 , expertly, for bagging game * dress out an elk in the dark like a pro * sip on battery usage for compute & sensing (ie, uses 100% contemporary C++ code+great electronics). - Every internal component is modular for quick/easy replacement/repair/upgrade. - Relatively inexpensive to mass-produce after the first dozen or two prototypes are wrung out. I doubt not there's much, much more. But that's enough to go on with -- as a minimum waifu -- for now, heh. :^) >=== -fmt, sp, minor edit

>>34047 >To be fair, souls don't matter and the rest could be implemented by somebody. The real issue is, imo, that there will be a lot of different entities and mechanisms with different amounts of agency and power. Just for clarification, since I'm not a native English speaker, I meant something like "the important point is..." with issue, not that I have a problem with distributed AI technology.

>>34078 >Just for clarification, since I'm not a native English speaker AFAICT, you communicate in nearly-perfect English, my multi-lingual fren. I hope I can master Nihongo even half as well as you've done so with English. Cheers. :^)

>open source AI is the path forward :^) >we need to control our own destiny and not get locked into a closed vendor :^)

Does anyone here have experience with petals? https://petals.dev/ "Run large language models at home, BitTorrent‑style"

>>34121 Pretty sure that b/c (((reasons))), they're concerned that you might be literally worse than literally Hitler. You're not Literally Hitler, are you Anon? :DD <insert: Tay.ai throws a Roman maymay> The inept panderings of these people will be their own undoing of course. The baste Chinese will roll over them all. :^) >>34122 Interesting Anon, thanks! BTW, we have a thread on this general topic here : ( >>8958 ).

>>14866 Just rebuilt this today, and a minor patch is needed to meson.build file for the newer verions of libcurl. >meson.build # BUMP, the imageboard porter # =========================== # -This software is designed to help out anon with imageboards # Filename: ./meson.build # -The build-management configuration for the overall project # --=^=-- # ============== # This section configures the project's build settings: # project('BUMP', 'cpp', version : '0.2g', # be sure to set bump_vrsn in the Bump class as well license : 'MIT', default_options : [ 'cpp_std=c++17', 'buildtype=release', 'warning_level=3', ] ) add_project_arguments('-Wno-deprecated-declarations', # json reader class '-Wno-unused-variable', # unused var in cmp_all_bumps() '-Wno-misleading-indentation', # based, important code :^) '-fconcepts', '-fpermissive', # needed for newer verions of curl_easy.h language: 'cpp' ) cxx = meson.get_compiler('cpp') # fltk_dep = cxx.find_library('fltk') curl_dep = cxx.find_library('curl') curlcpp_dep = cxx.find_library('curlcpp') jsoncpp_dep = cxx.find_library('jsoncpp') srcs = ['bumpmain.cpp', 'Bump.cpp'] if build_machine.cpu_family() in ['arm'] # on RPi incdir = include_directories('/usr/local/include/curlcpp/') fsdep=cxx.find_library('stdc++fs') alldeps=[fltk_dep, curl_dep, curlcpp_dep, jsoncpp_dep, fsdep] else incdir = include_directories('/usr/include/curlcpp/') alldeps=[fltk_dep, curl_dep, curlcpp_dep, jsoncpp_dep] endif # # ============== # --=^=-- # ============== # This section builds the project's binar(ies): # (outputs to ./build/ dir): # exe = executable('bump', srcs, include_directories : incdir, dependencies : alldeps ) # # ============== # --=^=-- # ============== # Recommended - BUILDING WITH MESON (in a terminal from project's base directory): # # -First, initialize the project as a meson build one (needed one-time only): # # meson build # # -Build, then execute: # # cd build && ninja; cd .. # build/bump # # NOTE: # -You can set meson project configuration settings any time, but you should # perform the operation within the project's build dir, not the code dir. EG: # # cd build && meson configure -Dbuildtype=release && cd .. # # executed from the terminal would ensure the project is built in release mode. # # ============== # --=^=-- # ============== # BUILDING WITH GCC instead (in a terminal from project's base directory): # # -Build, then execute: # # g++ Bump.cpp bumpmain.cpp -std=c++17 \ # -I/usr/local/include/curlcpp/ -O3 \ # -lstdc++fs -lcurl -lcurlcpp -ljsoncpp -o bump # ./bump # # ============== # --=^=-- # ============== # DEPENDENCIES: # # There are external dependencies that you will need to install on your system # as well. Here are the sources of the 'not-built-in' external dependencies # that you'll need to install first. Generally, these are provided by your # system's (or some other) package manager. But if not you can clone the repos # and build them locally (often a good choice anyway, perf-wise): # # - FLTK # https://www.fltk.org/ # - curl # https://curl.haxx.se/ # - curlcpp # https://github.com/JosephP91/curlcpp # - jsoncpp # https://github.com/open-source-parsers/jsoncpp # # And while not a requirement per se, Meson Build is highly recommended (it will # also need to be installed separately): # # - The Meson Build System # https://mesonbuild.com/ # # ============== # --=^=-- # ============== # SEE ALSO: # # https://stroustrup.com/programming.html # https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/basic_concepts # https://www.fltk.org/doc-1.3/intro.html # https://mesonbuild.com/Reference-manual.html # # ============== # --=^=-- # Copyright (2024) # License (MIT) https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT

>>34186 Please go through older complaints about it, or ideally you already made notes. Then make some adjustments, maybe just to the tutorial (readme). I'll try to build it again soon. Last time I tried it didn't work.

>>34187 OK I can look back into it soon, Anon. I admit to being somewhat lazy regarding maintenance as I moved on to work towards Bumpmaster (now long-delayed as well). My apologies, NoidoDev.

I didn't really give much thought to it or even bother researching either of the presidential candidates regarding AI or robot waifu legislation. My only tell was that Elon sided with Trump and that he did mention robot catgirls. That's about as much as I have to go on and honestly that's really all I need. It's pretty late to shill any political candidate now but if you want the presidential candidate that buddies up with "robot catgirl" guy, you gotta vote Trump. >source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAK_E0evsDU

>>34247 Heh. We actually have this Elon tweet posted here on /robowaifu/ . :D

>>34248 Trump pretty much has it in th bag. Robot catgirl/doggirl oppai loli futurism now.

>>34247 Harris has no idea what she is talking about. https://youtu.be/0FjjJme1aVQ?t=10 She is clearly pushing for censorship and hard regulation. They’re going to focus on taking AI away from us plebs. https://youtu.be/o2e45CpQiMc As far as I am concerned, you want more "pro business, less regulation" politicians that are hopefully less likely to fall for the AI will kill everyone, regulate it out of existence meme. >>34249 It looks like Trump won, So hopefully that translates to good news for /robowaifu/!

>>34251 > Harris has no idea what she is talking about I'm not entirely sure that really suggests she doesn't understand cloud storage necessarily for sure. It sounds like she is just using the same metaphors many businesses use which is why they called it a cloud to begin with since you don't have to understand how it works to use it. Likely she doesn't know all the details like most wouldn't but I don't think she literally thinks it is a cloud or else she would have sounded more confident in her phrasing. To be clear I did not vote for her or any Democrat for president past few election cycles I voted in, I am just pointing out things. > She is clearly pushing for censorship and hard regulation. They’re going to focus on taking AI away from us plebs. Perhaps regulating large businesses to a degree in certain matters as all presidents these days have done one way or another. That would likely not effect anything available as FOSS anyone here could be hosting. We may not ever find out what she had in mind though. > It looks like Trump won, So hopefully that translates to good news for /robowaifu/! Elections in the US aren't really final until a president is sworn into office due to ongoing counts and potential recounts and how electors in December are able to change outcomes as well though the later would be a first, the former has happened before. It seems to me to be shortsighted and forgetful to think Trump could be somehow good in technological matters. Not all bad but I recall various instances to suggest he's more an obstacle than a help. He was responsible for rolling back net neutrality which means slower speeds on any sites other than those for normies due to prioritizing the popular sites, and impact pricing negatively for consumers, and allow ISPs to arbitrarily block sites they don't like which due to ISPs being a virtual monopoly you would be out of luck if your ISP does this to alogs.space or other imageboards or VPN services and TOR nodes. It thankfully was reinstated after Trump left. His Truth Social platform had when started violated the license for Mastodon's code use it is based on which means he either is ignorant on such things, lacks oversight or even knew and told them to steal the code. None of these are good things whichever is true. Seems it eventually got credited but only after lawsuit threats. Of course it isnt a policy but it may clue in to his thoughts on technology. https://www.pcmag.com/news/trumps-social-media-site-quietly-admits-its-based-on-mastodon He also seemingly backs measures against US companies working with Chinese companies which will inevitably negatively impact things such as RISC-V development. I'm unsure his exact stance. He also previously imposed increased tariffs on imports from China which means less common cheap source for parts to anyone on /robowaifu/ as costs go up. He wants even higher than he did before https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/11/tech-industry-fears-china-will-retaliate-against-trumps-60-tariffs/ Trump had passed the CLOUD Act which acts as a move against communication data privacy which laws of this sort can be used to pry into the minds of and interactions with robowaifus even if remotely hosted say for example to use a supercomputer if their programming were really advanced beyond what could be used onboard due to heat buildup in their body. There is other instances but this came to mind with the mention of "the cloud" by Harris. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/new-backdoor-around-fourth-amendment-cloud-act The version of Trump you speak of is a work of fiction created by those online attempting to manipulate us.

>>34261 >The version of Trump you speak of is a work of fiction created by those online attempting to manipulate us. Happy to see a well thought out and sane take, but don't mistake my dislike of Harris as approval for Trump, the lesser of evils and all that :^) I was unsure if I should of posted then, and right now I slightly regret posting that. But I will elaborate a bit to make my self more understandable. I agree lots of negative things happened under Trump, I do not dispute anything you said. I can add to the list, I was unhappy when he pushed for red flag laws. My preference for him mainly comes from a general anti establishment sentiment I hold for the US government, of the two, D.C would of liked her. The current US government sanction against Russia are a problem for my /robowaifu/ goals, I am unsure how to move forward with publishing code. Specifically there effects on the GPL license, I am not happy with the situation the Linux kernel is in with it's Russian maintainers. Thanks to our government being a US citizen, or having any legal entity in the US (in my eyes) is a liability for developing truly free software. The only obvious and practical solution I can think of, is dropping ownership of the code, but I do not like that idea for the same reason I do not wish to go with a BSD like license >>28083 (Another solution I guess would be to just not worry about it, comments are welcome on this) >Likely she doesn't know all the details like most wouldn't but I don't think she literally thinks it is a cloud or else she would have sounded more confident in her phrasing. Maybe she knows a bit more then it looks like, we can speculate. but you know what would be a refreshing move when running into something your not sure about. She could of said, she is unsure or that she does not know. Admitting that makes you a better leader, but instead we get this sound bite. >To be clear I did not vote for her or any Democrat for president past few election cycles I voted in, I am just pointing out things. Thank you for spending the time and pointing things out, I do appreciate it :D I won't pretend to have well thought out political takes, I see spending time on politics as a waste, I do not hold influence to have any real effect so I do not gain much by spending energy on it. My efforts are better spent doing literally anything else. For the last few election cycles, including this one, I voted libertarian (go ahead make fun of me, lol), I just don't feel good supporting either of the two major parties.

>>34264 >I voted libertarian (go ahead make fun of me, lol) Don't feel bad, I couldn't muster up enough of a shit to vote at all.

>>34247 I remember Elon drunk tweeting about 2B years ago, long before Tesla bots, thinking about buying Nier: Automata's IP so he could build 2B, and deleted all the tweets the next morning

>>34265 I intentionally didn't vote this time, simply b/c I'm a Christian. * I certainly can't vote for the Democrats Demonrats, since murdering their own children seems to be their highest priority. * After I saw the Divine intervention to save Trump's life that day, I had decided to vote for him. Then, just two days later at the RNC, those POSs had everyone praying to an elephant. Lolnopenopenope. Besides, until the GH oligarchs are uprooted from their control of the West (IE, WWWIII: this time we really mean it edition), then all of this sh*te is little more than a pandering dog-and-pony-show. >tl;dr Only the removal of jews from control of the world's C*ntral Banks will fix what's wrong with our so-called """society""" of today. :^)

>>34266 LOL. I would pay money to have these if they could be verified. :DD <insert: 2B 300K polys>

>>34264 >>34265 >>34268 OMG, guys. The Dems would've doubled down with their tyranny, and you couldn't know if your votes mattered before the result. Pretty reckless. And there are way too many other guys like that, Undead Chronic and some of his friends for example. Well, I'm glad it worked out well. But that aside, politicians also care about which groups they can mobilize and pander more to these groups, so it's "not the best idea" to not vote (including for some meme party). If people don't like the candidates then they can engage in the primaries. Otherwise it's probably the best to vote for the smallest evil. Especially when there's a high chance of someone disrupting the current power structures. >>34268 >b/c I'm a Christian. Well, this didn't stop the Amish. Not trying to make a big debate out of it, it's too late anyways. Just saying.

>>34274 >Well, this didn't stop the Amish. Point taken. Fair enough, Anon. Thanks for the input. Regardless, there is no political solution in the West. <---> But as to our concerns here on /robowaifu/ it matters little regardless. It's the baste Chinese -- not the deviant West -- that are going to usher in the Robowaifu Age. We here can give guidance to them, but they are the ones who will manufacture 1Bn+ robowaifus. We can come along after the fact and create free & opensauce, unencumbered, 100% offline/disconnected robowaifus/kits for everyman. This is the path forward for us, not which puppet is 'on stage' in ZOG ATM. Just my US$0.02 , heh. :^)

>>34268 >those POSs had everyone praying to an elephant This is the first I'm hearing of this, but I can't honestly say I'm that surprized. Both parties have been bought and paid for by special intrest groups that are so high on their own fumes that they have no conception of reality anymore. The only thing I'm unsure about is if both parties were always this fucked, or if it's only more visible now. To quote a mutual friend of ours: Don't be passionate about partisan poilitics, because it is not passionate about you. The Republicans never cared about us, they just fuck us over less than the Democrats sometimes. >>34274 >you couldn't know if your votes mattered before the result As a matter of fact, I do know. I live in the unholy trinity of votes not mattering: On the federal level, our seats and electoral votes are more predictable than yesterday's weather. On the state level, the parties are literally meaningless. Every candidate is such a carbon copy of the other that I have to dig to find any differences, and those differences are always minute and forgettable. Oh, and they're also all bought and paid for by people who despise the working class more than anything else. The local level, hilariously, is the worst. My town's been run by the same (((old boy's clubs))) that have been slowly fucking the locals over in the name of money and power since the 40's, and this has only been accelerating. I'm talking about people who measure their wealth not in dollars, but in debt owed to them. Dangerous shit. There's no way to vote against this, because noone wants the consequences of rocking that boat. To put it in another way that you'll hopefully appreciate: My feminist mother worked for both the town and state for a time. During this time, she taught me and my brothers about levels of corruption that I've never even heard about on /pol/, and almost singlehandedly sent me on the journey that lead me to this board. Despite her political leanings, she was so disgusted that she did everything in her power to insure that we were knowledgeable and wouldn't be hurt by these peopple, even if it meant that we would ultimately oppose her political beliefs. In this, she taught us the most important lesson of all: that the love of family should precede all else. The hell that you're afraid of is already here, and only love will save you. Keep building.

>>34268 I'm thankful Trump won because JD Vance will protect AI and fight against regulations.

>>34276 >In this, she taught us the most important lesson of all: that the love of family should precede all else. >The hell that you're afraid of is already here, and only love will save you. >Keep building. This. God bless you, fren. I'm surely glad you're here with us, Greentext anon. Cheers. :^) >>34277 That's actually a pretty-impressive tweet if he follows through on it. Thanks, Kiwi! Cheers. :^)

>>34264 it would seem to me the best over all OS to use for waifu's is Minix 3. https://www.minix3.org/ Minix 3 is used internally in Intel processors so I expect it is the most used OS on the planet. It's super small, kernel is 600 kB; full OS is 25 MB. The various robot OS's, which I like, are good but I expect that as the waifu's get more complicated these would start to choke. Minix 3 has all the bells and whistles of any large operating system and it's purposely set up to restart drivers and other parts of the software if there are errors and they quit. So it's fault tolerant. It's also set up to run UNIX packages through NetBSD and it's BSD and free. It runs on X86 and ARM processors. I see a few RISC-V implementations but it's not main line. Fortunately AMD is cheap enough that I don't think it's needed. As for Linus and Linux, I think it's likely that he was fed a honeypot of some sort and some sort of intel agency took over Linux. They stole all the money from his foundation and changed the function of it. I read that less than some small percentage of Linux foundation money, 2% maybe, was spent on the actual Linux code. So it's only going to get worse with the Diversity, Inclusion and Equity (DIE) crowd in charge. Who knows it may even be Microsoft that torpedoed it. I have suspected very strongly that Microsoft killed off several open source projects by blackmailing or more likely bribing the developers. After all they make peanuts or nothing developing, and then along comes MS with some lawyer non-disclosure agreements. They offer $500 K a year for 5 years or even more, a drop in the bucket for MS, and the project is polluted, and killed off. It cost next to nothing for them to do this. I can even show direct examples. Back in the day there was a Window manager for Linux. "Enlightenment". It was way ahead of MS. I always thought the only thing Linux needed was a really good GUI that was standard that all programmers could use. This would turbocharge all development. Enlightenment seemed to be that. It was way advanced, very fast, but...it needed work. Standard bug squashing. Nothing revolutionary. All of a sudden the developers stopped the present development and stopped taking in bug fixes. The Linux distribution maintainer of Bodhi Linux wrote about his frustration as he was using Enlightenment. He even forked it due to non response of the Enlightenment team. So Enlightenment rewrites the WHOLE DAMN THING, taking like some 5 years or more and it never again was really put together as well. Now I just put that one off as foolish developers but...the exact same thing happened to Gnome. Going great, people were starting to make it THE desktop and kaboom, all of a sudden they rewrite the whole thing. Making it into some sort of tablet interface. Take away all the special little tweaks you could do, and again five years until people forked it. Once again, I said, silly developers but then...PC-BSD was really getting a BSD together. They had a great desktop they wrote. It all worked with a solid FreeBSD base and all of a sudden they change the name to "TrueOS". WTF??? And then promptly change it again to TridentOS and then, drop the whole BSD OS base and move it to Void Linux. Now tell me this isn't a clue. They work 10 years on BSD and all of sudden, change the name, twice, then dump the whole thing for an obscure Linux distribution??? It was then I realized, someone paid them off or blackmailed them. I don't see any other logical answer. One more, init vs. systemd. This systemd is a classic case of embrace and extend. Starts out as a start up a better, supposedly, than simple init but then jams damn near the whole functional control of the OS into it, makes it so you can only look at the set up with binary files, no text, and then makes it into this huge massive all in one hairball no one can make sense of. You think this wasn't planned? And there is NO DOUBT that there are other start up programs that are far better than init but do not fall into the hairball category. To top it off the developer of systemd, Lennart Poettering, eventually goes to work for MS. systemd started at Red Hat and I think they do a a lot of government work. Probably paid off as they are after all a for profit company. I can't blame the guys. I mean you toil away on free software and live like a scrub and along comes someone with suitcases of cash and to get it you just have to do ...nothing. Stop doing what you were doing and fiddle around for a few years. Hard to turn that down. I wouldn't. Minix 3 is academic, and not going anywhere. Small but with good connection to larger software systems through it being UNIX based.

>>34277 >Vance "If" Trump does half of what he promised it will be to great advantage to US citizens. He may actually do it. He appears to be super prepared this time. He has had a huge mass of people vetted to slot into the government from day one. This time they are all clued in to what to do and they "appear" to be real people and not agents like what was crowded around him last time. Whether the US will collapse in a heap or not, well it could, if reformed, do like the Byzantine empire and last a really long time but the way it was going, no chance of survival. There's a massive amount of illegals. A huge vast amount. Back in the Bush Sr. administration they checked social security numbers and there were almost 30 million fake or doubled numbers. And this is just the ones that filed taxes. 30 MILLION. How many didn't at all? It's years later and they have jammed in at least 10 million more in the last 4 years. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if there were 50 million illegals. I know it sounds absurd but it could even be more. You can not run a country like this. It's absurd. Piling all these people in and allowing them to vote for their interest is the height of stupidity and nothing but a big operation to destroy the US. And don't tell me they can't be deported. I saw one cost estimate of 450 billion dollars cost of services to them. I know a solid fact that their children cost 50 billion a year in education finds alone and this was from many years ago. You could get $2,000 dollar plane tickets, pack them in and deport the whole lot and save a fortune. The budget would be vastly reduced. And to top it off the actual citizens wages would go up and lots of jobs would open up. Especially if Trump raises tariffs. Now the econ idiots have heart palpitations when you talk tariffs but the USA was RAISED on tariffs. It's exactly how they got big and powerful. Japan, China, a vast number of countries use "administrative" guidance and other slick tools to do exactly the same thing. The US has a large enough land area, minerals and people that anything on the planet can be profitably built here if other countries with all these "administrative rules" are not allowed to protect their markets while doing whatever they want in the US. Of course this assumes that Trump is not killed and the ringer Vance is not put in power. Trump better watch his back.

>>34281 >Minix 3 Whoops, I think I spoke too soon. I now see that it's not been maintained, or has it, I;'m not sure. It's a damn shame we don;t have some small thing like Minix3 with updated drivers. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34911672 On the other hand, it may still be a good system OS to use. It just lacks some modern drivers?? Since a large part of what we will be doing is custom and we will not be using a lot of commercial hardware, then it could be fine. It does seem to have most or all of POSIX-compliance which may be all you need. A big plus is it has a lot of documentation which might make up for a large amount of other stuff. Another big win is it's not linux which has become bloated. Not saying it's bad but it does so much getting a handle on it could consume all your time leaving nothing left for anything else. As with most things complexity can tie you in knots. Sometimes less is more.

>>34281 >>34284 Wouldn't a real time operating system be more appropriate for applications like these? Regarding RTOS with POSIX compliance, there's QNX, recently they released it for non-commercial usage, unfortunately they didn't release the source code, and there's a risk of a rug pull from them. >On the other hand, it may still be a good system OS to use Though security would be an issue, being an "academical" OS, I doubt it has been audited at all.

>>34277 Yeah, so it really might matter. >>34276 This sounds pretty dystopian. >>34286 >QNX Interesting. We should keep an eye on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNX

>>34286 > QNX If they released QNX open source I would be all over that. It would be great. I wonder what it would take to write something like this? QNX really is brilliant. Once I ran QNX on a floppy, one floppy and it had windowing, a internet browser, AMAZING. Bloomberg owes QNX so I wouldn't hold my breath on him letting it go. I think, but I'm not sure that, MINIX 3 is real time or can be set up to be. So I looked this up and see some work done on this but "now" I expect that the best over all would be one of the L4 variants. So MINIX is nice but sel4 was designed from the ground up to be fast, secure and for embedded work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L4_microkernel_family If enough tools are available seL4 would likely be the best bet. Real time, totally tested. it runs, I think, the F-16, drones and many various military and commercial systems. One of the few OS's that have been totally verified, whatever that means. https://docs.sel4.systems/projects/sel4/frequently-asked-questions.html It may well be that in the end something like a regular Linux will used because it's so much easier but the real first class solution is some sort of verified code like sel4. I wonder if it's as easy to use sel4 as it is QNX. I willing to bet sel4 is just as fast and likely just as, if not more, secure. In their FAQ they say Linux can run on top of it but I;m not sure you can do this with X64 processors which would be needed. So much stuff, soft and hard is made for X64 that I think it would have to be what is used even of it was not the absolute cheapest and fastest. To clarify, sel4 runs on X64 but I'm not sure you can use this to run Linux on top of it.

>>34286 >Wouldn't a real time operating system be more appropriate for applications like these? I forgot to answer this...YES!

>>34281 >>34284 >>34286 >>34312 I don't know terribly much about OSes myself, but I was pleased to see that TinkerOS was updated so it could be run off a USB stick, which makes it easier to work with now, since it's a fork of TempleOS which is notoriously hard to get running outside of a virtual machine due to the hardware requirements. Although I think St. Terry would be rolling in his grave if he knew how much his OS has changed.

>>34320 >Tinkering with TempleOS, Sacrilege! :) BTW found a good link of picking real time OS's. I admit to having trouble with this. There's so many choices, an embarrassment of riches, that it's like being a little kid and trying to pick out some sort of sugary pop cereal. Very difficult. I really don't care much for Linux but I'm guessing even with all my mucking about to avoid it it will in the end be the easier choice and the least painful way to go. Sigh... https://hackaday.com/2024/11/13/making-sense-of-real-time-operating-systems-in-2024/

After looking a little further, I didn't realize this, Linux now has a real time patch baked into the core kernel. With the caveat that some people say that it's better to use a faster low-latency Ubuntu kernel ships with a 1000 Hz tick timer granularity. This was designed for graphics and sound distributions. Supposedly it's less trouble to use it because the real time requires more configuration. "...PREEMPT_RT is an intrusive patchset that may not be compatible with all required drivers and may require debugging/reworking, whereas low latency is a configuration flavour of mainline..." So the standard fast clock timing will give you 1,000HZ timing or 1 millisecond. I would think this would be close enough for a waifu. Specifically running walking, not running into stuff, physical coordination at the highest 1 mSec level and everything else at a lower level. https://www.zdnet.com/article/20-years-later-real-time-linux-makes-it-to-the-kernel-really/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-Time_Linux

>>34350 >>34351 POTD These are some excellent resources, Grommet! I honestly wasn't aware there were so many different realtime OSs now. [1] Sweet. I kinda like the cute little lizardbro one [2], simply b/c of the kawaii name, and the mascot -- not b/c I know anything technical about it, heh). Cheers, Anon. :^) --- 1. related: https://hackaday.com/2021/02/24/real-time-os-basics-picking-the-right-rtos-when-you-need-one/ 2. https://www.chibios.org/dokuwiki/doku.php

Happy Thanksgiving, everyanon! I appreciate the dedication of everyone that posts their thoughts & progress here, and of all the lurkers that might be making less visible progress.

>>34514 Happy Thanksgiving to you too, Anon. BTW, this will mark the 8th year for /robowaifu/ this weekend! :^) >=== -sp edit

>>34514 >>34516 Happy Thanksgiving!

>>34516 >>34517 >>34514 Hope you all had a good Thanksgiving.

>>34514 >>34516 >>34517 >>34518 Good to see all of ya had a happy Thanksgiving, Happy (late) Thanksgiving to everyone here!

@Kiwi Just a heads-up that /christmas/ is open again for business, for this year-end now. Cheers. <insert: Chii in Santa suit> https://trashchan.xyz/christmas/index.html

>>34547 Nice! GG Anon. :^) <---> As with your other recent post, I'd suggest looking in the catalog first before posting (eg, inside the Vision, or Face threads in this case). But since this is /meta, I'll let it stand ITT (however, you're still wasting the opportunity that it will be seen by Anons in the proper thread later on). >=== -minor edit

>>34554 oh ty can it be moved to the proper thread?

>>34555 >digits In Lynxchan, I can't move an individual post over any easier than you yourself can. Just copypasta it over, peteblank.

Hello /robowaifu/, hope you had a good Thanksgiving. I want to ask Chobitsu to add me as a volunteer for the /christmas/ board. Trashmin told me I had to contact you personally because he couldn't do it.

>>34608 >Hello /robowaifu/, hope you had a good Thanksgiving. Thanks, Anon! You too. :^) >I want to ask Chobitsu to add me as a volunteer for the /christmas/ board. Trashmin told me I had to contact you personally because he couldn't do it. Sure I'll be happy to, Anon. What's your account name on Trashchan, and I'll add you. Cheers. :^)

>>34573 okay done

>>34360 It's almondpeko. I also left my e-mail in the previous post in case you need to reach to me. Many thanks.

>>34647 Alright done. Thanks for your help, Anon. Seems like I remember your name?

Behold the true power of autism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et5PPMYuOc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fW9TV1WQi8 It sure would be easier to sleep at night in the future, if your robowaifu can run things for you using only your own home server(s) . >note: You'll still need typically-offlined, deaddrop-style, physical-lockout Internet access in addition (cf. RW Foundations Dollnet/Dolldrops).

/robowaifu/ do you like Katawa Shoujo?

>>34729 I need to check it out

>>34730 >that response time Holy cow anon! You guys here on /robowaifu/ really know how to respond fast. I guess that's the /robowaifu/ guarantee. Anyways, I can promise you that it won't be a waste of time.

>>34731 Let me just warn you, that's not usually the response time. It's just that I'm here rn and constantly refreshing.

>>34732 I was just joking around. I've been on /robowaifu/ since 8chan. I am familiar with how the anons on this board work. Regardless, I do suggest you play Katawa Shoujo. I recommend Lily's route for your first playthrough because she doesn't have any bad ends. The first time I played Katawa Shoujo all those years ago, I played Hanako's route. I got her bad end because I was a stupid teenager who didn't know any better.

>>34729 Played it part of the way through ages ago, but never finished it. I really should get back around to that soon, I remember the story being pretty fun.

>>34648 Thank you. If my name is familiar is because I inherited the boards made by their original BO (/christmas/ and /l/). Unfortunately due to personal circumstances I don't have the power to manage the Christmas celebrations so every year I gave it to other people to manage them. I forgot if the previous anon who managed it gave it to you or it was me but you're the current BO. Hopefully it's going very well.

>>34752 Oh right! I'm really happy that /christmas/ party is still going on even though anon.cafe closed down. Hopefully this will be a fun event this year. BTW, we have an Anon who's planning to help out with custom CSS improvements to the board. Any inputs you have in the Decorations thread would be welcome, of course. Cheers, almondpeko. :^)

>>34752 BTW, would you be willing to run streaming partys for /robowaifu/ this Season? Looking for volunteers familiar with that. (cf. >>34741 )

YouTube keeps recommending this video to me: https://youtu.be/yWrldOS6xBw

>>34771 hehe me too, I plopped it in the face thread. Rubber faces look nice, but my concern is the tendency to break down and tear: can see some tears in that video and I don't think it has been running for too long. I'd love to revisit cloth faces at some point.

>>34350 The list, for indexing and searching: Contiki-NG OpenERIKA FreeRTOS MicroC/OS (Micrium OS) Nano-RK (Atmel Firefly, MicaZ motes, MSP430; GPL or commercial) NuttX RIOT Rodos RT-Thread TI-RTOS TizenRT (NuttX fork by Samsung) Zephyr (formerly Rocket) ChibiOS/RT Apache Mynewt >>34351 Thanks. Good to know the "real-time OS" topic is covered. I'm inclined to think this will only matter for walking and reflexes anyways.

you guys are too sensitive and refuse to acknowledge criticism something has gone wrong when youve failed to collaborate for over decade. you can find me at the doll forum i guess.

>>34841 your criticism isnt constructive

>>34841 Criticism -- even zesty bantz -- certainly has a place here, Anon. For instance if I pulled a bunch of malarkey numbers about physics involved with robowaifus out of my ar*e, any Anon here is free to call me out on my sh*te (and same for everyone). Personal attacks however, are not welcome. It's a typical kike trick, and a favorite of glowniggers when they are seeking to destroy a community such as this one. It's commonly called D&C, but it goes by a much more fundamental name since time immemorial : treachery. >tl;dr In the words of the sage, Anon : < Don't be a dick. ( >>3 )

Merry Christmas. I'm an anon from 8chan, and we are organizing our inter-board Christmas event. This project aims to gather around anons from different imageboard and anonymous communities from all around internet during a weekend and celebrate Christmas together. The planned date is December 14 and 15 and it's going to be here https://8chan.moe/christmas you can make your "embassy" thread talking about your IB, its history and local memes. I hope to see you there. If you have any other questions please make me know, I'll be more than grateful to answer.

>>34846 Hi 8moe! Thanks very kindly for the invite. Just so you know, we have a /meta throd here : ( >>32767 ). That would be the proper place to use, rather than starting a new thread. Cheers. :^)

I love Jucika

>>34852 I love her too. >>34849 I made the thread for more visibility and speed things up, you can merge it with your meta thread if you want.

>>34846 Is it like a mirror of trashchans /christmas/ board?

>>34870 Not quite. I'm the 2022 host, I moved /christmas/ to 8moe last year, it just happens someone else decided to take over the cafe board and operate it independently and later move it to trashchan when cafe died.

The event is starting now, it's going to take place all of Saturday and Sunday, you can go ahead and make your embassy board and send your regards in the name of /robowaifu/, I'm going to stream some movies, picrel is the schedule. I'm streaming movies on Sunday too, but I haven't decided the schedule yet, so you can give some recs if you want.

>>34871 Ah I see

>>34870 We both migrated the /christmas/ board when anon.cafe went down. At that time, I was the board's owner (and still am). So yes, effectively both boards are a snapshot of when anon.cafe closed it's doors back in March. If you want to punish yourself with the blow-by-blow, it's still preserved today on Junkuchan. [1][2] Cheers. :^) >>34871 >it just happens someone else decided to take over the cafe board and operate it independently and later move it to trashchan when cafe died. OK, I lol'd a little. :DD --- 1. https://junkuchan.org/shelter/thread/4994.html 2. https://junkuchan.org/shelter/thread/5778.html

I have some playlists on YouTube which are public and related to the board. I sometimes think I should post more of them here, but then I don't. Sometimes someone else discovers the same things and posts it. So it often would be relevant. Maybe some want to add this to some download program, like Tartube or looking through it instead of waiting for a YouTube recommendation. Anyways, here are some links: Gynoid Project related: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh86lOr2S2w5zR1Go1G7jqZQhuHO_kUgh Digital Mind: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh86lOr2S2w4jsC4Ruhz2BcfDZmknNwGy Gynoid Audio related: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh86lOr2S2w5ZJMDlxScUplEBUQg_Rr4J Hardware (more general, partially unrelated): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLh86lOr2S2w4oE2qBtVidcr35r5uTTMOR Some videos might be on more than one list.

Streams starts in 24 minutes.

Starting now https://8chan.tv/view/602e4689-b108-4ccd-a6cd-c74cce99c549/ Get in here.

Today's Schedule. It starts at the same time.

Starting now

>>34907 >>34909 You should consider adding an Embassy Thread on trash/christmas/ , Anon.

/robowaifu/ , please come check out the spiffy new style of trash/christmas/ ! :^) https://trashchan.xyz/christmas/catalog.html#top

>>34887 Thanks, Anon! Cheers. :^)

>>>/meta/3 The >tl;dr is, AFAICT : 1. There was a billing mixup for Robi with the site backend provider. 2. Being full-on-kikes, they immediately baleeted everything as soon as the bill came overdue. > Fair warning: Don't ever trust the Globohomo with your robowaifu's data!! 3. Robi only had backups of the text messages, not the files (too big a collection). He did still have files from back in September or so, however. 4. That means any more-recent files are gone. On the (potential) upside, if anyone here will (re)post those files on, say, /meta/ , that will make them reappear again everywhere here on alogs.space (including /robowaifu/ )... 5. Which brings me to my screwup...I've been distracted by Uni & finals. I had a machine issue with the linux box that was doing BUMP backups of /robowaifu/ . Due to pressures in my current environment, like a fool I never made the time to fix the issue. My last backup was probably 2 months ago -- I'm not sure yet. 6. Which further leads me to my hope that any one of you Anons actually took my advice to have more than one of us making regular BUMP archives of the board. IF NOT... then I'm afraid we've lost at least a couple month's files -- presuming they will not be found anywhere else. >tl;dr Most disasters involving complex systems are a comedy of smol errors, that cumulatively leads to a big failure (cf. >>4631 ). Again, fair warning. <---> Regardless, I won't even really be able to look into my latest archive of the board for a few more days until Winter break. In the meantime I'm hoping one of you will come through for everyone as the hero we all need! Regards, Anons.

>>34962 No backups, unfortunately. What I do have is twenty-eight threads loaded and cached in my browser. If it's needed, then I can rip every thumbnail and upload them in a tar as a last resort.

>>34965 Hmm, that's an interesting idea, Greentext anon. Please review this with Robi at >>>/meta/3 . I'm unsure how that process would even work. But yes, IMO having even the thumbnails would be of benefit, Anon. Please keep that browser open! :^)

>>34965 Also, can you run a little experiment for me & re-upload the 3 pics that were the OP ITT, Greentext anon? I'm pretty sure they will re-integrate with Lynxchan's system properly again thereafter (even if you delete the dump post).

>>34965 >>34966 *Addendum, I have some of those images loaded. I just checked through my tabs, and bunch of them have unloaded, though I'm not sure why. There's no apparent rhyme or reason to it. Like on this thread, everything before December is gone, except one of the header images (not that those are an issue, I have full quality copies of those). Or the Galatea thread, where I have everything except a handful of thumbnails in the middle of the thread. My browser might not have loaded everything to save space after I restarted a few days ago. For the time being, I'll hold off on running the next round of updates until this is resolved. On a reltated note, do you know how to pull thumbnails? The browser doesn't seem to acknowledge that they exist, and any attempt at saving just results in a broken file.

>>34968 Of course. I still have full quality images of everything I uploaded here. As for anyone else's images, it's a crapshoot, but I can do some searches on my drive.

>>34969 Browsers """save energy""" by unloading resources from tabs today. This could be what's happening. I've learned that I can save a page (if it's loaded properly into memory) using Brave even if the original has been deleted. Maybe this will work to save out a copy on some of them? >>34970 Hmm... I'm not seeing them 're-integrate' properly, Anon. Robi mentioned writing some kind of tool to help. Maybe things have changed on the alogs/Lynxchan backend that keep this from 'automagically' working now? Hmm. I'd say just organize missing files and wait for Robi's signal as per >>>/meta/3 . Thanks Anon! You're awesome. :^)

>>34971 Downloading the page doesn't seem to work, it's like the thumbnails aren't even there. There must be something fucky going on behind the scenes in Waterfox's code. At any rate, this lit the fire under my ass to finally get around to setting back up local backups (my old "solutions" were pretty ad-hoc, and I'm in the middle of moving hardware around). I'll make it my weekend project, and earmark some of the hard drives in my Horde™ for backing up this board. How frequently said backups occur depends on how much storage this board needs. I'll keep you up to date on that once I start setting things up again. For now though, I'm going to bed.

>>34972 >this lit the fire under my ass to finally get around to setting back up local backups Great! wget or cURL are OK-ish solutions If you have a fetish for a giant filepile in the middle of your drives, lol! :D OTOH, BUMP is quite efficient and organized! in comparison (and Bumpmaster will be better-still [cf. Pageone : >>17561, >>33733 ]). But it's chief benefit is in the simple 'fire & forget' cron job usage scenario. I used to run it 4 (or even 6) times a day for ~60-80 different IBs around teh Interwebs, on-and-off. It typically takes all of seconds to run against any given board (after the initial big-download) -- even across Tor. >tl;dr NoidoDev was pestering me to make it easier to get it up and running for him. I already did a tutorial on getting a box ready years ago (cf. >>5270, ...). Maybe I can use this event as a similar opportunity of a metaphorical 'sharp, pointy-stick to the butt' :D to get me to help him out. Any ideas how I might make setting up BUMP easier for newcomers, Greentext anon? TIA. >=== -minor edit

>>34972 >How frequently said backups occur depends on how much storage this board needs. IIRC, /robowaifu/ was at about 10GB in size at the time of my most recent archive a couple months ago. That was an observation in passing so YMMV by +/- 100% lol. :^) But again, BUMP will generally only take a few seconds each run (even at 10GB board size), and will only add anything that's actually changed since the previous run.

>>34974 > /IIRC,/ was at about 10GB in size It's absurd that a file that will fit on a cheap usb drive is not backed up. Even if it was a terabyte these drives now cost what, $30 for used enterprise SATA drive. These used enterprise drives are real bargain and it's all I use with the provision that I back everything mostly up. The real solution to this is FREE hosting on your own computer with I2P. The anonymous Internet. At the least you could mirror the site in I2P on whatever computer you have. There's two versions. A java version which is likely safe for this site and another version that is likely more security safe (in the long run) written in C++ but not as user friendly(I2Pd). I2P https://geti2p.net/en/ I2Pd https://i2pd.website/ Though I do not know how to save large documents I2P has a built in torrent system built on "magnet" files that only works in I2P. It does not go to the regular net so it's anonymous and you can download any size of whatever you want. So files that are big, videos of progress, etc. could just put a copy in their download folder and copy the magnet file link and as long as someone is still serving it it will never go away. >BUMP The easiest way to get people to use this is, and I'm assuming it's a command line program, is to put a simple GUI on it. I know programmers hate GUI's but suspect it's because they are such a pain in the ass with hordes of typing(and it let's them thumb their noses at the masses). So do something different. Use Rebol for the GUI with C codebase below it. The easiest way I know to do this without a vast amount of BS, study and heartache is to use Rebol programming language to do so. It can work with C and has a built in DSL for GUI's. It's only a couple megabytes and works with windows, AppleOSx, Linux and the BSD's. Rebol overview http://www.rebol.com/ A few examples https://www.rebol.com/pre-view.html Download https://www.rebol.com/download-view.html Super quick start overview to use http://re-bol.com/rebol_quick_start.html This is a great page where the guy has written simple direct examples that show what it can do in a a few minutes. He also has a whole program he wrote for a secondhand retail shop. "... My most recent little tutorial is a quick introduction to practical Rebol, intended for non-programmers, but fast paced enough for developers coming from other tools (20+ app examples in about 1-2 hours): http:// re-bol.com/starting_computer_programming_with_rebol.html The most in-depth of my R2 tutorials is 850 pages (it includes some materials and explanation not found in the more visible http://re-bol.com tutorial): http://business-programming.com ..." above was quoted from http://www.rebolforum.com/index.cgi?f=printtopic&topicnumber=47&archiveflag=new The link above has more resources More examples http://www.rebol.net/cookbook/ This last one looks interesting to. A library. Sharp looking graphics. Light weight. Can run on mirocontrollers. Light and Versatile Graphics Library(lvgl) https://lvgl.io/ https://lvgl.io/features

where is this "BUMP"?

I tried to compile Bump a few times recently and wasn't able to. I'm currently using NixOS on my old laptop and ran into issues compiling Bump on it. My PC had other issues and I was too frustrated about that and didn't use it for months. But I'm even not sure if I had Bump working on that. I have one version on my Raspi, but the disc I stored the archive files on was only plugged into it from time to time. So it was a few months ago that I used it to archive the board. I don't know how many, but I can look into it. That said, it's certainly more than just two months. I don't recall anyone else on this board ever asking about Bump or stating that they compiled it. Most people here generally still just lurk, and I had some issues, so also stopped doing much. So, let's hope there's a happy surprise. I can of course upload my own files again, but this requires that I know which one these were. Gladly I started naming them more and more. >>34976 >Gui It's not about a GUI, it's something that can run in the background.

>>34979 >it's something that can run in the background Does it scrape the site? I could see something constantly scraping the site causing bandwidth problems.

>>34976 Wasn't there some drama a couple years back when the new owner of the project started doing fishy shit? >>34973 >If you have a fetish for a giant filepile in the middle of your drives You're talking to a man that has a box full of hard drives loaded with old and likely useless LLMs. So, I'm not worried about it. I'll try compiling bumpmaster first, though. >>34974 >10GB Wait, that's it? I have a bag full of MicroSDs larger than that. Once I get everything set up, I'll do daily backups if I can get bumpmaster working. If I can't, then it'll be weekly.

>>34962 This does open an oppurtunity for us to start considering personal backups. You've already started working on software tools that are relevant to this. >>34965 Please continue to be based. On a personal note, write more little stories. Your words mean more than you know to our goals. My personal recommendation is that we start to have redundancies. Websites which host their own /robowaifu/ so that posts can continue when one is down, followed by importing posts between the boards as needed. I do worry this could fracture our tiny, fragile community.

>>34976 Thanks Grommet, good advice all. >Rebol Neat! Didn't know about that one. My intent is to use FLTK, which has an incredibly long history going all the way back to the NeXT & Sun . It runs on basically every hardware platform -- even MCUs that can drive a display (eg, a robowaifu's totally-not-boobas chest display system. :^) >>34977 >where is this "BUMP"? It's always been linked in the OP of our /meta's since it's inception late 2019. >--->note: There's an archiving tool coded right here for /robowaifu/ that provides the ability to backup locally the posts & files from our board. It's named BUMP, and is basically a custom IB scraper. >Latest version of BUMP v0.2g ( >>14866 ) >>34979 >So, let's hope there's a happy surprise. This. As to getting it to compile, I'll work to make sure that the Bumpmaster has fewer dependencies. This should ease your task. >It's not about a GUI, it's something that can run in the background. Also this. Doing a cron job on a terminal program doesn't get much more reliable/simple as a systems maintenance tool. >>34981 >Does it scrape the site? I could see something constantly scraping the site causing bandwidth problems. It does. But because tought went into it, it doesn't consume any more bandwidth than simply downloading the Catalog JSON, and examining. Anything that's further downloaded only happens if there has actually been a change. Takes less than 1MB of bandwidth, and about 5secs of time in the nominal case. >>34983 >I'll try compiling bumpmaster first, though. Actually it's not ready yet. I solved almost every issue needed however, while writing the simple terminal utility Pageone. I'd suggest you have a look into that if you want to see how Bumpmaster is going to be even-faster/more-efficient than BUMP was/is. >>34986 >This does open an oppurtunity for us to start considering personal backups. Indeed! Everyone here please do. <---> Cheers, Anons. :^)

Good news! My browser saved the thumbnails. If anything, we can at least look into reuploading the thumbnails for organizational and morale reasons.

If anyone wants any larger screenshots, just ask.

>>34991 I'm not sure how to do this tbh, I realized earlier when talking about this with Greentext anon, GreerTech. AFAICT, the Lynxchan (the server software that /robowaifu/ sits on top of) auto-generates the thumbnails (storing them in a system folder), and then places them when it builds the webpages for the board on-demand. If anyone can figure out how to go about making this work, then by all means give it a shot. If it doesn't work, then hopefully Robi's fix+our reuploads dump will do the trick. Thanks Anon, good thinking! :^)

Can someone explain why some very old pictures on the board still don't work? Is it difficult to restore the whole thing? I can't upload missing newer files, if I don't know what's missing. At some point we'll need some kind of list. Unfortunately, just today my btrfs filesystem on my external disk failed with "parent transid verify failed" https://archive.kernel.org/oldwiki/btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ.html#How_do_I_recover_from_a_.22parent_transid_verify_failed.22_error.3F - which is the most feared error. Apparently this mostly happens when WriteCache is enabled and some hardware is wrong. It's outrageous to me that this is possible in 2024. Anyways, I will have to try to use btrfs-restore tomorrow after buying another big disk. For now, I don't know what files I will get back from that disk. Btw, just in case, don't try to give me "just googled" tips on btrfs. Thanks.

>>34994 >Can someone explain why some very old pictures on the board still don't work? I'm pretty sure this is related to why Robi's needs to write an addon to address the entire set of issues, NoidoDev. Anything further, I'm not sure. Used to be if you simply reposted the exact file again, all the regenertation worked automatically. Clearly that's not the case any longer. >disk failed Oh no! Maybe Greentext anon & frens can help out? I don't know myself. I sure hope you find a fix, Anon!

>>34993 so unless you have the original file with the same filehash someone needs to either manually update the src links in the html page to point to a new file or manually add a new file to .media named with the filehash of the missing file

>>34996 Isn't it a database? Why html manipulation? Also, hashing the files is easy, if you have them. If only recent media files are lost, then he should have all others. Assuming my data isn't gone for some unrelated reasons, I should have all the files I uploaded, I just need the names. Anyways, no rush, I was just wondering.

>>34995 Just in case someone uses btrfs file system on an external drive: https://wiki.tnonline.net/w/Btrfs/Parent_Transid_Verify_Failed - consider turning WriteCaching off in advance, out of caution. > hdparm -W 0 /dev/sdX

>>34997 probably, would be the same thing the img links on the html page are the filehash so that must be the entries, can you reuppload a missing file? it might be treated as a duplicate and wont be downloaded if the entries are still in the db

>>35000 Absolute trashfire >>35001 - I upload it, it actually has the same hash, but if I load it again in the original post, it still doesn't load.

Brief aside here, what's the name of this little robot?

>>35006 I found it with the power of reverse image search, Kibo chan.

>>34994 >>34999 I never use btrfs, and failures like this are why. It's been in beta for over a decade, remains unstable, and is, in my opinion, unsuitable for storing anything important. I don't know how to fix your error nor do the developers, I'd wager, but I'd recommend switching to ext4 once you get your data back. I've never had a partition fail before the hardware. If you really need the extra redundancy, then keep multiple seperare copies and/or install mdadm and make a RAID1 software array. >>34986 Thank you, Kiwi. I've been pretty burnt out and distracted with other stuff, but I won't ever give up on writing. There will be more, and I'll definitely have something up by Christmas. >>34989 >Actually it's not ready yet No rush, my setup isn't ready either. I won't be doing any work on that until the weekend, and I have other tasks to run on it once everything's set up again.

>>35008 >No rush, my setup isn't ready either. >I won't be doing any work on that until the weekend, and I have other tasks to run on it once everything's set up again. Just in case it's not clear: I make a distinguishment betwen BUMP, which is ready (such as it has been for years now lol), and Bumpmaster which isn't. The latter should be a nice improvement over the former, but I'm stalled with it's development for the time being. >tl;dr You can install BUMP today. Bumpmaster is TBD. Hope that makes sense, Anon. Cheers. :^)

>>35009 >You can install BUMP today. Bumpmaster is TBD. Nearly everyone here should've installed it for years and ran it in the background. And if it wouldn't work, complained in the thread for it. 10GB is one time, then it only adds the new files. It's not consuming a lot of resources. Thirdworlders with mobile connections are of course exempt from this argument. That said, I since it would also download every "illegal" spam, it might be better to put it into a encrypted folder, just in case the device is lost at some point and someone wants to misinterpret this. I actually wondered if it deletes the old data if something is deleted from the board. Which would be suboptimal on one hand, because backup integrity, but keep these backups without "spam".

>>35006 >>35007 From what I can tell, Kibo-chan is also animated using blender thanks to a plugin that allows for bone rotation to be transformed into servo positions. (some older prototypes of kibo feature little faces singing along with a blender view window) I personally modified the plugin to export animations to raw text files for SPUD. Not sure if I'll ever release that tho cuz its a mess.

>>34757 >>34758 Apologies for the delay, I've been busy these last weeks. As far as decorations go I can't think of anything else. You and CSS anon have made a good job at decorating it. As for the streaming part, if I'm reading this correctly you want to setup a Cytube channel on the site. Is that correct? In any case I'm not sure if I'll be able to make it. When are you guys planning to do that stream?

>>35013 Heh, I'd love to have one for us to represent /robowaifu/ at the /christmas/ party (and maybe introduce some Anons who still don't know yet), but I'm not the guy. I just wanted to throw the idea out there in case someone else wanted to take up the mantle. <---> Regardless, thanks again Anon! I see you're taking good care of us on /christmas/ these days as well. Cheers. :^)

>>35010 >I actually wondered if it deletes the old data if something is deleted from the board. No it doesn't. BUMP is quite simple in such regards, as it literally just writes thread-organized directories of files (including HTMLs & JSONs of the thread pages themselves) for any given board (such as /robowaifu/ ). This is by design for robustness & availability : filesystems are the one 'practically-guaranteed-to-be-there' universal datastore. Which means you could run BUMP on an MCU. This also lends itself directly to any scripting-based approaches for archive management after the fact (which served everyone but the GH & their pets very well when Trashmin used that fact to move boards over with BUMP, when anon.cafe was kill). For Bumpmaster my plan is to offer a few more-sophisticated management approaches (like thread synchronizations), all while still maintaining that plain & simple directory-based system underneath. I hope that answers your questions, NoidoDev. * --- * btw, I have had to go back in and rm directories that BUMP auto-dl'd (via the aforementioned cron jobs) when I later realized that troon glowniggers had posted cp-spam threads against us all. easy peasy fix though; from the board archive's local directory just issue : rm -rf <muh_foo_thread_dirname> simple as. >=== -prose edit

>>35008 I hit a particular error where the disk makes some errors and messes up the file system beyond repair. > I'd recommend switching to ext4 I'm switching to zfs, without performance options, focusing on integrity. Seems to work on Linux now. Forward ever, backwards never. I consulted with Claude before. >make a RAID1 software array If I would have had two disks, I should just have used the other for regular backups. Which works good with btrfs. I'm nearly sure it would not have copied that error over. I also should have had a error reporting for scrub which I do have running in the background. Thanks anyways. I now got my now overpriced 4TB disk, and start trying to save data and finally sort our all my backups on different drives. Gladly my (newer and old) OpenScad robowaifu files were also on other disks.

>>35016 >Bump Generally it's already good that we have it. Thanks. Just unfortunate that I didn't have it on my current main computer and not having the right disk attached to the Raspi which is always on (because my external usb hub was broken). I wish there was a way to trigger the right amount of fear of data loss before it happens. We always need systems in place to prevent it. I even already bought a external BluRay burner and M-Disks for the most important backups, but didn't use it. >>34957 >Christmas online party Yeah, in regards to Christmas. I did look into it and might again, at least around the actual date. I'm not hugely into watching streams, though. I normally have my files on my disk and watch it locally. I should make a list of the apparently recommended Christmas and Winter shows and movies, since it's always good to have some of them. I can also recommend Imagenarium (Nightwish band) movie and Eight Below. I also tend to watch "The Thing" around Wintertime. I don't know much good winter anime so far. I'm not that fond of "A Place Further than the Universe" though it's still kinda good, and I never could watch "Tokyo Godfathers" since I was repulsed by it. The Re:Zero specials are fine, especially Frozen Bond, but not really great. Planetarian also has a winter setting and it even has a somewhat religious vibe to it.

>>34989 >But because tought went into it, it doesn't consume any more bandwidth than simply downloading the Catalog JSON, and examining. Anything that's further downloaded only happens if there has actually been a chan I see, said the blind man. I didn't know that there was such a catalog/database/whatever that listed all the post. Very nice!

>>35020 Yep. This is typically known as an IB's 'API' (though why that is I don't know, and it's probably silly anyway :D). https://alogs.space/robowaifu/catalog.json

>>34962 Hey Chobitsu, please contact me on IRC when you get the chance. Thanks.

>>35022 Sure thing, Robi ! I'll have to wait until tomorrow sometime, however. Do you have a preferred UTC time for such a contact. In other words, what time would work best for you in say 12+ hrs from now?

>>34971 >Maybe things have changed on the alogs/Lynxchan backend that keep this from 'automagically' working now? The problem here is that LynxChan only creates a file on the disk if there is no upload reference for it. It reference counts all uploaded files and just changes the reference count if a new post with the same file as before has been uploaded. This saves on disk I/O if the file system is consistent with the database, but obviously it's not consistent now and so it will simply discard the file you uploaded even though it's not actually present. I'm working on a LynxChan addon that modifies this process so that even if an upload reference is present, if there's no corresponding entry in the "fs.files" collection in MongoDB, it will force-create the file on the disk (and an entry on the database).

>>35023 Currently I'm best reachable in 04:00-07:00 UTC (morning for me), and 15:00-21:00 UTC (afternoon/evening). Just hit me up within those times.

>>35024 >I'm working on a LynxChan addon that modifies this process so that even if an upload reference is present, if there's no corresponding entry in the "fs.files" collection in MongoDB, it will force-create the file on the disk (and an entry on the database). Got it! This sounds like a workable approach. We have several technically-knowledgable Anons here, I'm sure they appreciated knowing such things. I know I do. >>35025 OK I"ll plan to drop in and give you an 'AUUUUUGHHHH' today sometime during the next few hours. Probably between 17h - 19h UT, I'd guesstimate. Cheers.

>>34962 Hope your degree is going well fren. What are you studying? I'm currently in school for Data Science so I'll eventually be useful for AI dev. Cheers

>>35025 Robitt, what's the channel name again? #my jewish motherworld doesn't seem to be working for me r/n. >>35030 Nice! Glad to hear it Kiwi. I expect you'll master R, eventually ehh? Just remember at the end of the day, we need to fit 98% of all of that yuge data down onto onboard systems for our robowaifus otherwise, she won't be able to climb the nearest mountain peaks for lunches together!!! :^). >tl;dr > Fair warning: Don't ever trust the Globohomo with your robowaifu's data!! >ttl;dr < Pls don't let your professors or peers convince you that the cloud is a good thing! >Hope your degree is going well fren. What are you studying? Thanks! You too, fren. Trying to catch up on maths stuff, so I can move on from the 9th grade haha. Also, I want to be an a*rsehole robowaifu-industry billionaire and hire everyone here, so I'm focusing some attention on business. TWAGMI

>>35021 You can only even assume this might be silly if you never tried to parse html with some script. The html can change, btw. It should rather be mandatory by law.

>>35039 The main problem with a pure REST API is that it does not allow for actions to be presented. What you get is the data, and the actions you can perform on it is out-of-band (some other request you can send, described in the API documentation). Take this thread for example; in the JSON you only get the individual posts, which is fine if you only need the data, but it does not show a posting box, which posting fields are required, etc. I think a much better approach could be if the HTML output was semantically useful, with a stable structure for each item on the page; for example, if each post contained the same data that the JSON response contained, plus the actions you can perform on it, then you would be able to discover and perform actions based on what the post contained. Stuff like htmx are exploring this approach and it's quite interesting. One downside though is as you mentioned, parsing HTML correctly is quite a bit harder than JSON, but any respectable language is going to have a compliant HTML parser anyway (BeautifulSoup or lxml on Python, dom-parser in JS, ...).

>>35040 Yeah, I was only referring to backups and data scraping. Anything beyond that needs to be separate.

HAPPY WINTER SOLSTICE Look forward to longer & longer days ahead, bro!! :D >>35039 I have dabbled with writing my own HTML parser in C++ , yes. For big pages the fastest way seems to be to containerize the entire thing ahead of time into std::vector(s) of tags, then extract the information out on the fly afterwards. std::vector is very cacheline prefetcher-frenly, and it's a great way to pack items together for processing. It shares this characteristic with C arrays, of course but it doesn't have the problem of being braindead about it's own size, or decaying into a pointer at the drop of a hat. >>35040 This.

>>35052 std::map makes more sense, html is already a key-value map, <tag>content</tag> is { tag : content }, which when parsed recursively is no different from a json

>>35059 Makes sense locigally, but I usually find that the std::vector is actually faster to traverse, even if it needs to encapsulate another abstraction as an underlying element item, say, std::set . 'As always, test test test. :^)

>>35059 Well, you still need to have attributes, so it's more like <tag attr="foo">content</tag> becomes {"tag": {"attr": "foo", "children": "content"}. It's one of the reasons why XML doesn't translate well to JSON, because you have to designate a special attribute for children.

>>35040 The best I understand it there's a way around this using anvil. It is open source but I don't know if covers everything. https://anvil.works/ I read about this here, http://www.rebolforum.com/index.cgi?f=printtopic&topicnumber=45&archiveflag=new This guy uses it to do all sorts of programming for large projects. Apparently they have set up anvil where it's super easy to combine all sorts of libraries with it. It also I think, takes care of all the low level html while you concentrate on the upper level stuff. A kind of plug and play programming to increase productivity. Nick sure seems to like it.

>>35025 @Robi I'm available now if you are. >tl;dr >But, I'll have to admit to you now ahead of time though... it's all absolutely terrifically good news!! :DD >=== -funpost edit

Merry Christmas, /robowaifu/. I hope you all are doing alright, inching closer towards achieving cybernetic perfection for you're are loving waifu. Glad to have spent another year with you. /agdg/

>>35092 Welcome, sleepy! >Glad to have spent another year with you. Same here. The Webring was & is a great idea. As long as the frontier spirit is alive and well in the hearts of Anons everywhere, the GH will never prevail over Men of Good Will. May you have good success and prosperity this coming year Anon! Cheers. Merry Christmas!

merry christmas

>>35095 Merry Christmas, peteblank! <insert: Chii in santa suit.jpg>

Merry Christmas Anons, hope all of ya have a wonderful night and enjoy the day tomorrow!

Happy Hearth's Warming, everyanon!

>>35097 Thanks EnvelopingTwilight! Merry Christmas >>35101 Happy Hearth's Warming, CyberPonk! >teh best christmas shipping evar: https://trashchan.xyz/christmas/thread/3138.html#3830

Hope you all have a merry Christmas. I know I won't for the next few hours, I need to go to work.

>>35104 Merry Christmas, fren Greentext anon! I pray your work hours fly by for you today, and you find yourself filled with the Christmas spirit throughout this season! Stay strong, Anon -- we all need you here! Cheers. :^)

>>35105 A Merry Christmas to all!

>>35109 Merry Christmas fren Grommet! Thanks so much for all your clever ideas! Maybe you have many brainwaves this coming year and see your plans come alive! Cheers. :^)

Merry Christmas! May God bless you all!

>>35114 Merry Christmas GreerTech! May you rapidly development many innovations to your standing designs this year! Cheers. :^)

We have some good news for Christmas, /robowaifu/ : >>>/meta/31 <---> The reason we don't have 100% recovery for our part here, is strictly b/c I didn't keep daily BUMP backups going, as I already related (cf. >>34962 ). [1] I hope this will be a lesson learned for all of us. Let us each keep our own backups going regularly, please. Cheers, /robowaifu/ . :^) Merry Christmas! --- 1. As predicted, my last BUMP archive of /robowaifu/ was on 20241014 (so, roughly 2months before the mixup); files posted after that look to be, unfortunately, gone. OTOH, as discussed, several Anons here can repost the orginal files themselves (which they still have on hand). In such cases, that should restore them here (with Robi's addon's help) as well! Stay tuned. >=== -add '2months' cmnt -fmt, minor edit

Wanted to let any GPU engineers here on the board know that NVIDIA is currently hiring for senior position (ie, high-dollar, high-power) devs for their Triton platform. https://developer.nvidia.com/triton-inference-server Who knows? We may rub shoulders there someday, Anon! :^) >=== -sp, minor edit

I am a foid lesbocel who wants a robowaifu for herself: Can I post here, or is this place just for male incels?

>>35149 You can post here, ofc. Simply don't promote feminism or literal faggotry here (cf. >>3 ). Fair enough? >ps. You've mischaracterized /robowaifu/ as being for incels, btw. I'd suggest the majority of us here are not. >=== -add 'ps' note -sp edit

>>35149 >foid >lesbocel >incel Sorry to disappoint but, this is an engineering board, not a culture war board. Either help build robot girls or leave. Your gender means nothing here.

>>35153 Agreed.

I hope everyone had at least a okay Christmas. Thanks for all the good wishes. >>35125 Thanks, but how is it possible that 30% of all files were posted in the last two months?! >several Anons here can repost the orginal files themselves (which they still have on hand) As soon as the existing files are working.

>>35125 Also, where to repost files? Here in this thread or in every thread where something is missing, or in Alogs Meta?

>>35173 Thanks fren NoidoDev! May you have a blessed 2025 at least. :D >>35173 >As soon as the existing files are working. Robi spelled out some technical particulars. He's working on a Lynxchan addon that will go through and properly sync things on the back end. From that point forward, all subsequent posts will appears (though there may be some delay or other, wouldn't be surprising if it needs a 'batch-job' type run periodically). >>35176 >Also, where to repost files? Robi is going to create a special location so as not to clutter up threads, as he mentioned.

>>35125 Does this mean I can close my broswer now? There's nothing urgent, but I do need to run some updates.

>>35192 >Does this mean I can close my broswer now? LOL. My apologies, Greentext anon, I'd forgotten that! :P So, I'd guess the answer is "yes" (but maybe not?). The >tl;dr is that my backup from 20241014 provides Robi with all the files to that point for /robowaifu/ , and -- once he's gotten the addon working -- should allow for auto-regeneration of the thumbnails thereafter. The only point being if you can somehow grab the original files posted here since the last BUMP archive, then you could repost them once that's set up for everyone. >tl;dr I'm still unclear if you can recover files (either the originals or the thumbnails) from your browser. Seems I recall you mentioning it didn't work before? If you can't save them out cleanly to your local drive, then I'd say that you can just go ahead and close your browser after all. Regardless, thanks very much for your willingness and your frenship to us all to offer the service to help. Cheers, Anon! :^)

>>35193 >I'm still unclear if you can recover files (either the originals or the thumbnails) from your browser. I'm sure that there is some way of doing it, since some of the thumbnails are still there, but I couldn't find it, and I cannot access any of the original images unless they're saved to my hard drive. With few exceptions (most notably images named "Clipboard Image") I save everything under the original name, so I can search my drive for anything lost. At any rate, I don't plan on cycling my computer until later tomorrow, so let me know by then if you change your mind. It's really not much of an inconvenience. I've stalled and witheld updates and power cycles for much less. On a related note, I might ask you for help regarding BUMP in the near future. My dedicated computer for backups is mostly ready, but I've run into some issues with BUMP's dependencies. I don't think it's anything catastrophic, I just set it to the side to focus on what I needed to to for Christmas, but I'll let you know.

>>35194 >so let me know by then if you change your mind. OK, but I anticipate no changes: get 'em if you can...if not, n/w. >I might ask you for help regarding BUMP in the near future. Sure be glad to fren. As I asked earlier, maybe together we can smooth over any issues for others to build it as well. I clearly remember how difficult it was for me to get over this type hurdle when I began I've simply built code so many thousands of times since, that I can forget that type issue some times... :P >=== -sp edit

>>35184 Can you save the website with all files? Also, you could make screenshots so we could know which Clipboard.png was which one.

Happy new year, everyone!

>>35240 Hi NoidoDev, yes could technically do so. The server also stores hashes for the files (readable in the page's JSON file). In the meantime, I'd say let's just wait until the addon is completed, and the special post location is made known? >>35248 Thanks, EnvelopingTwilight! You too.

@Grommet I forgot to mention to you that I created a special thread over on our bunker board so that you and I (and any other Tor users of /robowaifu/ ) could post files relatively-conveniently there, then reliably link them back here. Cheers. https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/thread/26.html >=== -patch hotlink -minor edit

>>35316 >post files relatively-conveniently You have no idea how much I appreciate that and all the other things you do. All of it is very welcome.

>>35317 You're so welcome, Grommet! My apologies for letting this slip my mind before. BTW, you have so many great ideas you've contributed to /robowaifu/ through the years, Anon. I (and other) appreciate your inputs here very much! Cheers. :^)

Made edits regarding our bunker/shelter info : (cf. >>3 ). -Our bunker is located at: https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/catalog.html -The Webring's general mustering point is located at: https://junkuchan.org/shelter/index.html Please make note of it. Cheers. :^)

>>35336 Noted. Thanks.

I don't want to be a chicken little about this, but has anyone discussed the home healthcare issue at length? >https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2023/05/2020-census-united-states-older-population-grew.html >1 in 6 people in the us were over the age of 65 in 2020. >https://ldi.upenn.edu/our-work/research-updates/home-health-care-workforce-not-keeping-up-with-community-needs >Many agencies that employ home care aides have problems with labor shortages. “Estimates of turnover vary a lot, but I’ve seen estimates as high as 65% a year,” Kreider said. These workers, who are largely women and people of color, and often immigrants, have a demanding role. “Aides have physically demanding jobs and experience a high rate of injuries. There’s little training to help them manage complex health conditions. Unpredictable schedules are also a barrier to recruitment. But one of the biggest problems is low compensation—averaging about $12.12 an hour—and poor benefits,” >https://www.technologyreview.com/2023/01/09/1065135/japan-automating-eldercare-robots/ >Japanese healthcare robots are more of a novelty at present rather than useful tools Some stuff to chew on there if you're interested. Essentially the ratio of home healthcare workers to old folks isn't looking good. Robot waifus are needed for sure, but in the short term (next decade or so) if the current trends persist there's going to be a large amount of elderly people who need home health care and assorted assisted living solutions that simply won't have them. I know japan is working on domestic care bots but AFAIK, all that stuff is still confined to hospitals. Said robots in Japan are...interesting but ultimately they're not not replacing nurses and orderlies yet. We don't even have Mamoru style egg bots to monitor people's health yet. The best thing we have is life alert and maybe medical braclets. >"Whatever, I'm not old, not my problem." If we don't get rejuvination treatments figured out, you will be old one day. Hopefully we'll get robot waifus in the interim but I'm concerned that you're going to have more cases of elderly people dying alone in their house and only being found several months after the fact. At some point, a relative goes to perform a welfare check only to find grandma is half melted into the carpet as black puddle of rotten goo. Not exactly the best way to find your loved one. Even on a less morbid note, plenty of eldery people suffer from falls and other injuries that could be easily remedied with a home healthcare bot that simply doesn't exist yet. I'm worried because the rollout of such tech isn't happening nearly fast enough and the longer this is put off, the worse things will get for the most at-risk members of our society. If we aren't going to get home healthcare bots in the short term, there needs to be more humans trained to help out elderly people and their respective wages need to be raised as well. That or start mulching the old people and turn them into soylent green so there's less of them to worry about.

>>35349 >oldbots activate <i am here to help to help to helpppppp

>>35349 POTD >but has anyone discussed the home healthcare issue at length? We've mentioned it on the occasion here, Anon. Personally, I'm quite well-aware of this topic, and of the Japanese government's national-level push to solve this issue for their aged/aging population (cf. pic-related : >>35323 as an exemplar of just a smol portion of that research). Of course both based China, as well as the degenerate west of today each have the same, impending, set of issues looming (as you already clearly pointed out). * China is likely going to follow in some form or fashion in Japan's footsteps for the most part, I believe (soon to overtake them, then lead the world in this frontier arena). * For the west however, AFAICT, the (((Globohomo))) intends simply to kill off the majority of their intrinsic populations (at the very least to destroy Whitey as priority #1), and to manipulate the remaining survivors with FUD, extortion, and the threat of tortuous death in FEMA camps (or their equivalent in Europe/the Anglosphere). To wit: a mud-colored slave race to populate their Filthy Commie's """Talmudic paradise""" is their insidious dream. [1][2] >tl;dr These western globalists, these technocrats/oligarchs have no real interest in keeping your loved ones alive Anon, I'm very-displeased to say. MAID at >50% of the population, anyone? [3] <---> Clearly, there is a tremendous opportunity right now for entrepreneurs (both East & west) to fill this healthcare need. I plan to do so. With that thus-derived funding, and the already-in-place-design-and-engineering of such humanoid caretakers, it should be a relatively smol hop from there into production of full-blown open source robowaifus & kits for everyman around the planet. <muh_basic_business_plan/10 From that point & thereafter, everything will change profoundly during The Robowaifu Age! Great post Anon, thanks! Cheers. :^) --- 1. For further contexts on these folks: read/watch 1984, Animal Farm, Logan's Run, Idiocracy, Brazil or many other dystopic works of prophesy fiction. 2. Just like Uncle Addy: > "...Gradually I came to hate them." (the GH in this case, ofc) > "May their curses all fail, and may every stone they try to roll down upon us, all roll back upon their own heads instead!!" Amen. :^) 3. What a perversion of the very concept of a good maid. These demonic f*cks are evil incarnate: [4][5][6] . Eventually, they'll simply resort to using bullets+mass-graves ofc; good ol' Bolshevik -style. Far fewer sheqels expended that way. 4. www.washingtonexaminer.com/magazine-features/3249744/assisted-dying-west-new-social-ethic/ 5. deathwithdignity.org/states/ 6. www.dyingwithdignity.ca/blog/medical-assistance-in-dying-around-the-world/ >=== -add footnotes -fmt, prose edit

>>35349 Thanks for sharing your concern, but did you see current progress in robotics? It should lift off in the next few years. I don't think that for most use cases the best ones, or even completely humanoid ones, will be necessary. The other options are: Retiring in a poorer country and pay other people there. Hoping that a lot of other people will loose their current jobs to AI and seek other employment. And, you already kinda mentioned longevity technology. In my case, I'm also not against having some sons using surrogacy. Though, I most likely will be a bit too late when my robowaifu comes into existence and after I wasted even more time.

>>35351 I've mentioned this along with Chobitsu several times. In fact the world could be a wonderful fabulous place with plenty of everything for everyone on the planet except for the shitheads, psychopaths and vile ones that run it. The tech is there. The tech is "very" close to making robots that would be super cost effective to take care of the elderly. In fact nursing homes now cost on average $10,000 a month. DAMN!!!! For far, extremely far less, someone could have their own waifu, stay in their, likely, already paid for house and get self driving robots to cart them around with the waifu to help. it would save a fortune,. take care of the elderly but...it's not as profitable as charging someone a fortune for imported aliens who frequently torture the residents of the retirement homes and force them to sell their houses off to Blackrock. Sometimes I truly despair.

BTW here's a comment I made doing some rough costs and possibilities for profits for stay at home nursing care robots with self driving serve. >>24081

>>35369 >but did you see current progress in robotics? There's a lot of cool tech demos. The closest I've seen to "humanoid" robots doing tasks and interacting with people in public in a capable commercial fashion were the maid cafe bots. >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LNthFGX4aM Everything else I've seen has been a highly controlled corpo showcase. Until I see robots really stepping up and doing jobs there were typically reserved as human labor, I'm not going to get too excited. >It should lift off in the next few years. One can hope. The biggest advancements I've seen in the past 5 years were in AI and drones. I was hoping AI would springboard us to other tech, acting like ancillary brains for smarter people to better utilize and collate data. I've been trying to utilize AI myself more lately but it's a tool that requires a firm grasp of its capabilities for optimal utilization. I've been playing around with Claude's sonnet for the past month or so, pushing it to the limit to see how much I can get out of it. I see the promise of AI collaboration for brainstorming and data analysis but hallucination and context windows are still an issue if you're not running multiple A100's or some megaserver horseshit. My hope is smarter minds will be able to leverage AI to advance science more quickly but I'm afraid we're nearing the peak capability with modern AI architecture that utilizes transformers and conventional training. Maybe google or OAI are cooking up some real cool shit in their R&D labs and simply haven't bothered to announce it yet. >>35351 I hope we have a Klaus Fuchs kind of character who shares the secret sauce to AI regardless of who develops it first so one nation doesn't have exclusive access to the mother brain or whatever. Considering how AI works, we might get a few parallel discoveries so such a character won't be necessary. Ideally, whatever AI development emerges, it benefits everyone, not just the super elite.

>>35349 >>35351 >>35372 The highest cost barrier to making a medical waifu isn't the actual cost of manufacturing, it's the cost of certifying. If you want any medical institutions or insurance companies to take you seriously, you'd need to stamp each waifu with a battery of safety certifications that would cost millions of dollars to even qualify for (since everything would need to be tested, which would take years) before you can even legally sell the product as a medical device. Even then, you're not free of liability, and there's no guarantee that any of the old-timers today will want it. And if anything goes wrong, you better believe that those same institutions will drop you like a hot potato to cover their own asses. Unless someone here wins the lottery, the only realistic option is to target the home market first. >>35374 Honestly, I think the biggest roadblock to good AI right now is LLMs. Everyone is so obsessed with them, but it's become more and more apparent over the years that they're really not that good, and they're too easy to poison. At this point, I'm honestly willing to completely discard language as a requirement for the sake of a more efficient and secure waifu. Chobits had the right idea, an efficient loveable dumbass is better than some "smart" LLM.

>>35375 >it's the cost of certifying. That's another issue. It's not just medical stuff though. >food prep >legal work >construction Anything that needs a human to sign off on quality will be highly scrutinized. Even if you get aI & robots that outperform the top 99% of humans, that still wouldn't be enough for some people. I'm thinking we need AGI that can fully articulate itself and even have some agency in its actions before it'll get the green light to tackle what are traditionally seen as human only jobs. AIs need to be able to go before congress and make their case that they're better at taking care of humans than other humans are. >Honestly, I think the biggest roadblock to good AI right now is LLMs LLM's are a piece of the puzzle. The underlying tech that powers them is the issue I think. Transformers in particular came out back in 2017, almost a decade ago now. Is that really the best option for giving AI a way to articulate its thoughts? Maybe. Perhaps transformers can be improved upon. Maybe they're a stepping stone to a better technology. At this point, the biggest advancements I've seen come from people pouring lots of time and energy into training models for marginal gains in performance. The amount of energy required to do that training is increasing as well so we're hitting the diminishing returns part of the development cycle. Maybe we need to start using quantum computing and unlock fusion energy or some other sifi shit. I haven't seen anything particularly interesting in the R&D scene outside of training AI on movement data gathered from the real world.

>>35375 >The highest cost barrier to making a medical waifu isn't the actual cost of manufacturing, it's the cost of certifying. That's a good point and I did not take that into account. It could derail the whole thing or, more likely, freeze out anything but big Corp. globalhomo from profiting.

>>35375 >Certification > legally sell the product as a medical device Good point, but: Maybe the solution would be to define the robots not as a medical device, just some helper. Also, if people are not insured, they will have to go abroad anyways. Either way, some people are being taken care of at home, where it is hard to control who does the work. So it only has to work. Generally, I don't plan my life based on my last few days, weeks or months. I'm young enough too not worry about age, also I plan to make it to at least above 100 and stay healthy. >Healthy life expectancy at 60 (HALE60), or the expected number of years of healthy life after 60, provides significant insight into the potential quality of life for older adults. https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2021/05/long-life-does-not-always-mean-a-healthy-life-in-old-age.html >the biggest roadblock to good AI right now is LLMs They need to be managed by additional software. >>35376 > I'm thinking we need AGI that can fully articulate itself and even have some agency Yeah, let's hope not. We or rather other people can worry about these things when the tech is there. When it comes to construction, to outcome will matter. I don't think it will be highly regulated. Also, always take into account that places are in competition with each other. If they make it hard to improve our life in one place, the people with some savings might move somewhere else. Also, people will simply break the law if it unreasonable (well, that's at least how I roll).

>>493479057 >>35384 >Also, people will simply break the law if it unreasonable In the case of medicine, I know people go to Mexico or Canada if they can't afford care in the US or need medicine that isn't offered in the states. If other countries start showcasing surgery bots who can perform complex procedures at a fraction of the cost of their human counterparts that'll put pressure on other nations not using such tech to adopt it. I'm hoping that external pressure will encourage progress rather than corpo monopolization. > also I plan to make it to at least above 100 and stay healthy. Humans can live long lives already. My issue is more about the quality of life. If at 80 years old you're wrinkly, in chronic pain, with teeth falling out, poor eyesight, and other age related issues, is that really how you want to be? Look at Jimmy Carter toward the end. I'd rather have a 20 year old body lasting me until my 70's rather than a 100 year old body that has me looking like Palpatine. We've perfected keeping people's hearts pumping so they can "live" longer but we haven't really come up with any rejuvenation therapies that make life living at that point. I don't want to delve into a morbid topic but I'd rather gameend myself in my 70's if I'm suffering from chronic illnesses and age-related issues. If we come up with some kind of rejuvenation therapy, body replacement procedure, or mind swap tech, I would be amicable to something like that. Otherwise, I'll be happy to fade into non-existence or whatever happens post-mortem.

>>35375 >Certifying This is both expensive and time consuming. Frankly, none of us are able to get this going without having millions and a decade to sink into it. >>35384 >Just make it capable and say it's not meant for medical applications The best option honestly. Show that it can help in ways that benefit the feeble and elderly while saying that it isn't intended for any medical use and that we take no responsibility under any circumstances. On another not, Yggdroids from Etrian Odyssey are cute. That blue one is 04 and her glasses add heaps of charm. I adore bony bots.

>>35397 >This is both expensive and time consuming. Frankly, none of us are able to get this going without having millions and a decade to sink into it. All quite true. If any of you have read the HIPPA documents (I have, for some high-paying C++ gig work I did), you know what Kiwi is saying is true. Thus why we need to open source all our work with a permissive license beforehand: a) When you reuse your own, already-licensed work to solve their urgent, proprietary, anime catgrill robonursu problem, the VC board can't really make an effective complaint about that, tbh (nor would they be likely to even try, of course -- its the whole reason they wanted you). b) Simply don't sign a non-compete (at least not for your own, already-public, code & designs lol); dutifully finish up their (((GH)))-compliant, pozzed-af-surveillance-nursingbot like a good little goyim; /comfy/ily rake in your millions. POSTHASTE immediately turn all that moolah into funding your own, fully-opensauce, fully-disconnected, local-models-only, world-shaking robowaifu endeavor instead... and Bob's your Uncle! :^) c) Continue contributing to your own opensauce repos-related (as per your pre-signed authorization agreements with said VCs, of course) on your own free time during their project's schedule timeline. This will help to ensure that your own following, robowaifu-related work will stay both relevant and well-informed in SOA trends during the nursingbot project's time interim. <---> Pull all of this off correctly Anons, and they will soon thereafter be pulling up to your gate with a super-duty armored truck filled with gold bars to offer in exchange, begging you to upgrade your previous robonursu works with your latest robowaifu-enabled feature sets. Make 'em sweat during the negotiations! :^) >tl;dr <don't give 'em your best stuff right off, bro. always save that back for yourself! :D <---> muh_faqs: q. B-but, they'll just use your own stuff w/o you!111 After all, muh 0.1% will do it for them for only $9/hr !111!!11Eleven! a. At this level it is the talent they hire, not the product. q. B-but, muh $$$ millions!!111ONE! a. Always remember, Anon: there is literally no shortage of fake money out there (after all, the tribe prints it themselves for free) -- its the ideas that truly carry value. q. Muh decade!111 a. Fair point. Soonest started, soonest complete. >Better crack those books, Anon! Be the future you imagine. :^) <---> TWAGMI >=== -fmt, prose edit

Thanks for deleting that vile crap so quickly.

>>35478 Nprb. Robi & crew or Kiwi would've gotten it too. I just happened upon it first.

>>35424 Someone here know what model this is? https://i.4cdn.org/g/1736373426620887.webm

>>35487 Probably the SE01 https://humanoid.guide/product/se01/

>>35492 and zebra stripes, it makes it hard to figure out shapes and contours, theyll be like a real world captcha, they wont know what hit them, literally i remember saying this was going to be the future when [facial recognition] takes over the world and people start wearing weird clothes and makeup to mess with the ai

>>35494 i was going to delete that comment lol Just got to hope for the best at this point and dont get chipped just in case...

Welp, we here on /robowaifu/ predicted this very thing during our first year back on 8chan. Opinions? What will you do Anon, if they tell you that you can't print your own robowaifu someday? https://www.tomshardware.com/news/ny-bill-bans-3d-printers https://www.msn.com/en-us/technology/tech-companies/new-ny-bill-would-require-a-background-check-to-buy-a-3d-printer/vi-AA1xmh7q https://gizmodo.com/new-york-proposes-doing-background-checks-on-anyone-buying-a-3d-printer-2000551811

>>35750 I wouldn't worry yet. Bills are basically suggestions, and it failed before. And even then, I see no mention of this beyond New York. And even if it was implemented worldwide, it wouldn't affect our goals. TL:DR: Don't worry about something until it actually happens.

>>35750 > anti tech hysteria We are always one public uproar away from some dumb decisions being made. Face swappers on GitHub seem to be in trouble, at least if they support NSFW. ReActor just went dark: https://github.com/Gourieff/comfyui-reactor-node >This repository has been disabled. >Access to this repository has been disabled by GitHub Staff due to a violation of GitHub's terms of service. If you are the owner of the repository, you may reach out to GitHub Support for more information. This might be related to 'romance scams' now using AI and that foolish woman divorcing her rich husband and losing 800k to some scammer claiming to be Brad Pit, who is more like what she really deserves, or so she thought ... (Btw: >>3119) and apparently there are more such cases. Of course this, or at least the reporting, might just be a campaign. Though, this case isn't related to NSFW which might bug some celebrity women and people concerned about fake CP based on real children. Maybe that's the reason for the takedown of the ReActor repo. Whatever. Nothing is safe. Mirror (blocking NSFW): https://github.com/Gourieff/ComfyUI-ReActor This older version allegedly still works with NSFW: https://github.com/Gourieff/ComfyUI-ReActor/tree/ccfade1 Imo, the face swapping tech could be useful to keep characters consistent. Imaging AI making a good video, but the face changes too much. The face swap might help. Especially if someone wanted to make a longer video with different scenes trying to keep the characters consistent.

>>35809 https://github.com/Creaide-AI/facefusion-nsfw

I WANNA HABEEB https://doge.gov/ :DDD

>>35942 Lol. They've changed the art again after 1 day. This is being archived on Wayback, I'm confident. This is literal US Govt non-glownigger sh*teposting going on rn. :D

>>35184 >>35249 There has still not been any information about which files are missing. Not only pictures, but there might be PDFs looking like they exist on the board but can't be downloaded. All of it needs to be checked with some tool.

>>36078 I'll try to bump my update request again, NoidoDev. Thanks! :^)

https://x.com/ammohitchaprana/status/1881709278454751597?mx=2 https://www.01.ai/ >MIT licensing will show it's true powerlevel with this, mark my words. ( >>36098 ) Well, that seems pretty quick, even to me. :^)

>>36112 All moats will be demolished. It's honestly been a huge white pill to see these other companies bring the frontier to our level. We are still only at the tip of AI. So few can see just how far this can, and will, go. The bitter lesson remains true, there is no wall, as long as compute per watt continues to improve, we will continue to see revolutions happen. We are far from making effective use of what we already have. It's exciting to finally live through the end of the AI ice age and be there for the beginning of a new age. I'm still paranoid that mega corps will abuse AI to impose horrific dystopias upon us all. There's a slim chance we escape cyberpunk. So long as FOSS can continue to keep up, we won't have to eat ze bugs. Phison's discovered you can use paging with SSD's to act as gigantic slow RAM for AI. I jest but, intelligent use of virtual memory is a clever trick to squeeze big models onto smol hardware. https://www.cnx-software.com/2025/01/27/phison-aidaptiv-ai-solution-uses-ssds-to-expand-gpu-memory-for-large-language-model-training/

>>36113 Actually its the words & sentiments of Anons like you, which were the true whitepills we all took along the way! :D You encourage me, fren Kiwi. And you're right! >I'm still paranoid that mega corps will abuse AI to impose horrific dystopias upon us all. There's a slim chance we escape cyberpunk. So long as FOSS can continue to keep up, we won't have to eat ze bugs. Our single best shot at avoiding the Globohomo's plots against us all in this arena has already begun. To wit: open source very good AI to everyone. That's it. That's all it takes. Everything else-related good will follow. Cheers, Anon. :^) TWAGMI >=== -minor edit

>>36113 I missed this and linked the same. Nice.

>>36113 >The bitter lesson remains true Hmmmm, not sure if I agree, I think the success China is seeing is more proof against the bitter lesson. They are using less compute and less resources and getting better results. They are being smarter and not just blindly scaling. In the west, in companies like OpenAI, engineers told to internalize that article and after following that dogma and burning absurd amounts of VC money they still have no moat. Its not just China and Deep Seek that are doing better lately, as we speak the smartest small model yet is coming from the open source space with way less compute resources then any of the big tech players. https://x.com/BlinkDL_AI/status/1884088419586040160 To my eyes, the bitter lesson is not holding up, and that's a good thing! But yes I agree with you on everything else Kiwi, I am also really excited for what's next. (and also share similar fears)

>>36113 >>36197 I think the major factor is the need to innovate. China has to work around sanctions and their effects, meanwhile America can just throw money and absurd levels of computing power in the hope of marginal gains.

Year of the Snek will be amazing for everyone, I think. Cheers. :^) https://x.com/TheHumanoidHub/status/1884277995470508440

Pure normalfag clickbait sh*te, but still fun to watch from our perspective here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqhUTyEwPQY

>>36244 Tor posting works for me, use their onion address: http://junkuchaouscdrmjvuat5ziio7et6sjm7nd5puzhdfq7all7qdiqppyd.onion

>>36260 Thanks for the help, Anon! As an aside, I've found that using the onion address there on Junkuchan redirects me to a Brave-specific 404 page: http://junkuchaouscdrmjvuat5ziio7et6sjm7nd5puzhdfq7all7qdiqppyd.onion/brave.html Not sure why that choice was made, but I'll be sure to use TBB in the future if needs be. <---> BTW: (cf. >>3 ) * I suggest every'non here first attempt rallying at our bunker site: https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/index.html * If Trashchan is down for some reason, then go to our specific thread on Junkuchan's /shelter/ board: https://junkuchan.org/shelter/thread/4987.html * If that's also down (3 different sites (((at once))) lol), then I suggest you pray, and begin carrying out whatever your contingency plans are *, and I'll do the same. Good luck, Anons! :^) <---> Thanks again, Anon. Cheers. :^) --- * you do have contingency plans, right Anons? :D >=== -fmt, minor edit

>Little Robi Robot Lol. For some reason, I've missed this. Did one of you already post about this back on 8ch/robowaifu/ , Anons? :^) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgxXimILGCY

>>36261 Ooops, that's an old holdover from the fatchan fork, good catch! Visitors using Brave shouldn't be redirected anymore.

>>36262 This is one very skilled & organized Anon. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrTBgqFKSwg

>>36263 Hi Junkuchan! Welcome back. Thanks ever for looking after us all today. I hope you all had a great Christmas & New Year this time. We'll be running our festival again in December, Lord willing. Cheers, Anon. :^)

@Kiwi Know how I'm always going on about 'central mass' and keeping dense masses located near the pelvic volume (b/c torque moments, thrown-weights, all that)? Well guess what, this little robot ( >>36264 ) actually went into space! While this video only has just a couple seconds of clips of the robot floating & moving (slightly), maybe some Anon can locate for us here the full recordings from NASA? This offers a completely unique opportunity for us to study the mass-system dynamics I go on about -- and one geared towards our favorite: smol, low-mass robo(waifu)s! Cheers. :^) >=== -fmt, minor edit

>>36265 Oh hey! Glad I could visit and also provide a shelter on the webring. The holidays were wonderful for me, I'll be looking forward to spring now. Cheers!

>>36261 That was definitely a scare. I'm going to reupload some of my stuff on the trashchan board, I suggest other frequent posters do the same

>>36268 Welcome to the Internets, Anon! Enjoy your stay. :D >tl;dr SAVE.EVERYTHING.

I was thinking about creating a thread on self-lubricating and self-cleaning orifices. I don't really have enough worth saying on the subject yet, and I'm sure anything I could come up with would be unnecessarily complicated compared to other ideas out there. I've mostly just been trying to find a solid material that would be slippery to the touch with just water, but haven't been having much luck. The only other thing was mechanically reducing friction, but that seems like it would be more effort than it's worth.

>>36330 Slip and slide?

>>36330 Well, if you're referring to vagoos, then please keep it in the sexo containment bread : ( >>419 ). But this is actually an important and interesting research topic in general. I'm sure industrial mechanics research has produced literal libraries on the subject. If your interest is more general, then posting in our latest R&D throd would be appropriate. Cheers, Anon. :^)

>>36332 I already considered it. All I could find is that those are made of polyethylene, but originally made from fabric coated in expanded PVC called naugahyde. But polyethylene is a pretty broad category of materials, and I don't think I like the idea of using any of them. >>36333 Ok, sorry.

>>36334 >Ok, sorry. No worries, Anon. As I indicated this is a long-pursued research topic in general. I suggest you peruse the Materials Science & Mechanical Engineering literature for more insights on current art in this area. Once you have some solid questions, then I'd suggest you direct them @Kiwi, our resident ME. Cheers. :^) <---> Alway rember, Anon: The catalog is your fren >=== -add 'catalog' msg -minor edit

>>36266 >Floating robot Ah, that's Kirobo! Posted about them in the 8chan face development thread. That was when we were first looking into how to make a cute face that could be affordably fabricated. I made a post about Robi, which seemed like a good base to understand cuteness in machines. Which lead to FT (Female Type), one of, if not the, first robot designed to be a cute girl. Which lead to my Rem phase based on her seeming to be the cutest thing possible (based on having all factors related to cuteness). Took me down memory lane. As for floating, i sometimes think about how fun a mermaid bot would be.

>>36344 Thanks, Anon!! I hoped that was the case, and was unsure how I could possibly have missed such a cool little robot. Much-appreciated, Kiwi. Cheers. :^) <---> <Side-note: >Posted about them in the 8chan face development thread. Sorry dangit. As mentioned I still have about 5K worth of posts & images that never made it over during the migration here. Reason is because I never figured out how to automate posting to our board PLEASE, PLEASE, SOMEONE. I STILL WANT TO FIX THIS. SEND HALP, PLOX!!. :DD, and reposting old posts here, one-by-one, by-hand, became fairly tedious after weeks of it. >tl;dr Maybe one day we can see all those OG posts back here again! :^)

>>36345 Maybe instead of having to post it, it could be placed in a historical archive for all of us to access? I would love to spend a day and just browse the posts of my forebearers. On the topic of archives, I've been archiving this board as well (text + thumbnails) https://files.catbox.moe/rmlgl3.zip

>>36347 Good thinking, GreerTech. Give me a while, I'll plan on looking into doing just that. I think its ~3GB in size (don't quote me)? >On the topic of archives, I've been archiving this board as well (text + thumbnails) Excellent! If you're going to all that trouble Anon, then I highly-recommend you learn to build & use BUMP (cf. >>14866 ). We created it right here for archiving /robowaifu/ , and its since proven useful for other sites as well. I'll be happy to handhold you (and any other interested Anons) through the entire process. Cheers. :^) >update: I recommend you repost that hotlink to your archives over on our bunker board as well, GreerTech? >=== -minor edit -add 'update' msg

>>36350 >I recommend you repost that hotlink to your archives over on our bunker board as well, GreerTech? Already ahead of you

>>36345 I'm not peculiarity worried about it. We should be focused on the future either way. >>36347 >>36350 >Historical archive Excellent idea! Keep it accessible without clogging up the main board. I wonder if names were saved? Some of us had different babe back then. I wouldn't mind if they weren't, I posted a lot of silly things back then.

>>36353 >I wonder if names were saved? Some of us had different babe back then. Yes. If it rendered into 8ch's HTML page format (which names would have), then the tool I saved pages with on that fateful day grabbed them. >I wouldn't mind if they weren't, I posted a lot of silly things back then. Heh, as did we all fren. :D I won't tell your sekrits if you don't, Anon. :^)

I know TempleOS doesn't support GPUs, which is probably a big limiting factor in its potential use as a WaifuOS, but apparently some motherboards support several CPU slots. Does anyone know if TempleOS supports multiple CPUs?

>>36358 >Does anyone know if TempleOS supports multiple CPUs? I seriously doubt it. Based-and-God-pilled Terry wanted everything in Ring 0, IIRC. Pretty sure this would make the necessary context/task-switching needed kind of a no-starter. But who's to say it couldn't be done? Not sure Terry would've approved of such niggerlicious architecture, but it's not inconceivable. Neat question, Anon. Thanks! I too have often dreamed of a TempleOS waifu system...just imagine having dear Christ-chan running on it!! :DD Cheers. :^)

>>36360 Well, actually running TempleOS on the waifu would be too hard for me, but there's TinkerOS that I've got on a flash drive, which you can't do with the original. And I know the ShrineOS version of it has TCP/IP. You can also change the resolution, use more colors, and other things Terry would have called niggerlicious. I know it's a meme OS, but the less processing power wasted on things other than the waifu's AI, the better. The only real issue the OS has is lack of hardware support. But since it supports a CPU, I figured having it support multiple CPUs would be easier to implement than adding GPU support, but I also don't really know shit about the subject. My plans involve a server with a wirelessly controlled body, so maybe I could use that internet support to make a cluster of TempleOS PCs, each with their own CPUs handling a different part of the AI.

>>36368 >to make a cluster of TempleOS PCs, each with their own CPUs handling a different part of the AI. I suppose that's a reasonable concept, Anon. Any plans made up yet about how you're going to approach this task? What about having a go with a Beowulf cluster or something in the meantime? You know, kinda get your feet wet first? Regardless, good luck with this project Anon! Cheers. :^)

>>36370 Thanks, but I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing.

>>36433 That's fine. We all start somewhere, Anon! I'd suggest you start here then : ( >>778, >>777, et al). You'll need basic Linux skills, ofc. Cheers. :^) No time like the present, Anon.

>>36112 Please copy the description into the comment, not just the link. I almost didn't look at this, and we can't find it here by searching. Though it's also just a small piece of the current news about general high speed progress: >01.AI, a Chinese artificial intelligence company founded by Kai-Fu Lee, has developed an AI model that rivals GPT-4 in performance while being significantly more cost-effective. He claims 500 times cheaper (more efficient). Hmm.

>>36467 >Please copy the description into the comment, not just the link. My apologies, NoidoDev. That's good advice that I'll plan to take to heart. <---> >He claims 500 times cheaper (more efficient). Hmm. I'd imagine this is pretty much just DeepSeek, maybe dressed up in a thin wrapper. Just like all the western FAGMAN operations now stealing offering baste DeepSeek service (ALL FOR THE GREAT BARGAIN PRICE OF JUST BARELY LESS THAN OUR NORMAL, WAAAAY-OVER-PRICED SERVICES [vs. simply free (or at least the possibility of that) using straight DeepSeek]!111), this Chinese company is free to use it as well. And they'll be allowed to continue doing so too, as long as they don't run afoul of the Chinese government's interests (protip: you yourself making lots of money is not against those interests). I'd expect that in the East, a plethora of operations will pop up all over based on DeepSeek. Can't wait to see a true market develop around this platform there, tbh. (This will be really good for the nascent virtual-waifu/robowaifu industries there, of course.) After all for much less than US$100K, you can have a server running the full 671B, non-quantized model 24/7. For business interests, this is just peanuts (market yourself well [B2B, et al], and you can make all that back and then some in a month tops [at the outside], then incrementally move your operations over onto to much-bigger hardware in the end). In the West, however?... Heh. Anon, I... >tl;dr <Better get it while you still can, bro!! :^) <---> Tiktok, Anons >=== -fmt, prose edit

>>35942 Best.Troll.Evar. : https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/thread/26.html#50 >=== -patch hotlink

>>36712 >Hopefully this has been somewhat mind-opening. Yes! Very much so, Axial. I love this stuff, because I'm truly, fundamentally, fascinated by the mind of our great Creator who devised this magnificent subtlety -- all made real -- in the first place. And the fact that astrophysics is the simple stuff, while we ourselves, homo sapiens sapiens, is the -- by far -- most-complex topic in the entire universe speaks volumes about His nature & character & great love for us all. >the manner of EM propagation as a direct artifact of the actual (11-dimensional, geometric) nature of spacetime... It.is.amazing. >I know when I learned that electromagnetism was a structure embedded in spacetime itself. It kind of blew my mind for awhile. Yes, its absolutely astounding. Since I've been studying the very-early (10^ -34,-35 -ish seconds epoch [and earlier]) conditions for some time, I'm no longer quite as mind-boggled now at all these things as I was in the past. But I can assure you it 'laid me out', mentally-speaking, when I first grasped some of the facts surrounding our profound reality spread out all around us in this vast & awesome universe. :D <---> And since we're here, any conceptions from you about the nature of the 'virtual particle storm' thats likely in back of so-called Dark Energy [1][2], Anon? I have both a theological and philosophical insight about the phenomenon, but I'm intredasted to hear your scientific take on it as well. >tl;dr >"Truth is stranger than fiction..." It isn't just an adage -- its words to live by!! Cheers, Anon. :^) --- 1. https://reasons.org/explore/publications/articles/limits-on-space-energy-density-variation 2. https://reasons.org/explore/publications/articles/new-tools-to-study-space-energy-density >=== -fmt, prose edit -add footnotes

>>36713 >THEY LIE Indeed, (((they))) do. But I think this issue is rather more subtle than on it's face Grommet. If there is any reasonable argument for the existence of the Luminiferous Aether any longer, then I feel its simply this: >All the space, all the time, all the matter, and all the energy of this universe is quantized -- by necessity -- at the Planck scale. Nothing physical can be smol'r/briefer (and this gives us the basis for the so-called 'Digital Universe' philosophical argument, BTW). If a 'neo-Aether' is an extant reality, then its below this scale (and thus, outside this universe). I firmly believe this phenomenon is real personally, however no one would call my ideas on this topic "science"; rather an aspect of Christian, transcendent Theology. That's it. The >tl;dr here is that there are still many mysteries for us yet to unlock about this universe, but that's not at all to say that we don't already basically understand several things close enough (as in horseshoes & nuclear weapons :DD . And one of those things is General Relativity. It has been shown (by direct observations, mind you) to be the most-significantly-accurately-measured phenomenon in all the universe. Much moreso than, say, Gravity. >Now you ask why would they do this...well if there is a difference, and there is, then Einsteins's theory is in trouble and you know who prints the textbooks. There's your answer. Heh, point taken fren. :D >=== -prose edit

>>36728 General Relativity. It has been shown (by direct observations, mind you) to be the most-significantly-accurately-measured phenomenon in all the universe. Much more so than, say, Gravity. I don't want to get in some big fight with you about this but the above statement I believe, and many others believe, is false. I know that that is what you have been told over and over and over but it is not true. I can't remember all the myriad of things I've read about this being false but it's a lot. Unfortunately I can't remember where or links. Looking here they distort the truth and jump through all sorts of hoops to pretend people did not see, what they saw. https://infogalactic.com/info/Criticism_of_the_theory_of_relativity One example is Miller who did experiments form 1921–1926. As long as he was alive he was able to fight off any criticism but as soon as he died they brushed everything he said away and said, "he made bad measurements". While he was alive they were not able to prove this. I guess his death made his measurements different. They got results also at the Naval laboratory with more refined equipment. The Sagnac effect shows different speeds for light but "somehow" light always goes the same speed proving Einstein, but of course if it's rotated, well then that doesn't "really" show different speeds it's just some cock up. There's a whole shit load of this verbal finessing to shoehorn relativity in. They say accelerators showing a mass increase "proves it", no it doesn't, mass increase in accelerators is the same force as what happens when you rotate a spinning gyroscope. It moves and gives off "inertia waves". Like electrons give off electromagnetic waves. This bleeding off of energy gives the impression of higher mass. BTW did you know that railguns of very high power DO NOT apply and equal and opposite force to the base of the rail gun compared to the force of the ejected round? Same thing. It's giving off inertia waves that lock it to the "inertia field" of mass in the universe. There's a LOT of stuff that shows this. A whole lot. So you can believe the "theory of Einstein" all you want but do not be confused that it's a done deal and there are no other, far easier, explanations.

>>36747 any experiment for this is irrelevant by now anyways, were in the nuclear age and einstiens meme e=mc^2 can be validated trivially by just measuring the mass of a gamma-radioactive isotope before and after it decays and measuring the gamma ray released, the change in mass and the energy released can always be predicted with absolutely no uncertainty using the speed of light(gamma ray in this case, still just an emf) as a constant, so unless you have a new model for nuclear radiation on top of a lot of other things then the idea that c isnt constant is just unproductive and isnt comparable with the majority of contemporary science that relies on this fact

>>36747 >I don't want to get in some big fight with you about this <proceeds to post 14 thousand page treatise... Well, it sure looks to me like you do! :DD >but the above statement I believe, and many others believe, is false. I'm probably at least as aware of the many, many issues of the Khazarian Mafia manipulating every domain -- including science -- of our modern world, as you are. And, I doubt I'm any less repulsed by those various activities either, Grommet. :^) <---> But I'll just cut to the chase and say there are some areas of research that simply cannot.be.faked. General Relativity is one of the big ones. Because it's such an outlandish idea to the so-called 'commonsense' mind it has been attacked, reviled, and -- importantly -- researched over, over, and over again by research teams from every nationality of the modern world. Sorry, Grommet, but this one comes through with flying colors. What Albert Einstein did was nothing short of remarkable (I'm well-aware of the many accusations leveled against him) in devising this formulation. And, apart from the faux paus he commited with his Cosmological Constant kludge (later retracted) he got it right. General Relativity accurately describes the nature of masses (at any velocitty) in the spacetime of this universe, and their interactions together. >tl;dr >"Mass tells space how to bend, and space tells matter how to move." Simple as. Cheers, Anon. :^)

>>36728 >>36747 >>36751 From Atomic Rockets Correspondence Principle The general rule is what physicists call the correspondence principle or the Classical limit. This states that any new theory must give the same answers as the old theory where the old theory has been confirmed by experiment. Newton's laws and Einstein's Relativity give the same answers in ordinary conditions, they only give different answers in extreme conditions such as near the speed of light, refining the accuracy of the GPS system, or calculating the orbit of Mercury (none of which Newton could confirm by experiment). Which means if you just state that in the year 2525 Professor XYZ came up with the "Take THAT, Einstein!" theory of FTL travel, you still have a problem. You have to explain how the TTE theory allows FTL flight while still giving the same answers that relativity theory did for all those experiments it confirmed. Experiments that were accurate to quite a few decimal points.

>>36760 >Experiments that were accurate to quite a few decimal points. That's putting it mildly. Its by far the most-accurately-measured phenomenon in all creation today. https://reasons.org/explore/blogs/todays-new-reason-to-believe/general-relativity-and-cosmic-creation-pass-7-tests https://reasons.org/explore/publications/articles/how-gravitational-waves-help-explain-the-universe-s-history

>>36761 Physics is a science that is very hard, if not impossible, to fake and/or fudge up the numbers. With things like social sciences or biology, you can do things like manipulate sample groups. But you can't change the sample group of the universe. Either Cold Fusion works or it doesn't, and there's nothing you can manipulate to make it actually work, short of actually proving Cold Fusion true.

>>36762 Oh I have plenty of accommodation in my heart for Grommet's position. I know exactly what he's saying, and exactly which sorts of groups he's impugning with his accusations. This sort of evil happens in every part of civilization their greedy clutches come into to contact with -- and especially in the sciences. You seem to be aware of some of the methods involved with such deceit$$. <---> OTOH, there are plenty of honest research groups out there. Typically filled with autistic men, such teams really just want to play with their expensive toys, and occasionally swing their e-peens about at cocktail parties. Apart from that many of them have few other agendas, beside this one simple goal that should be the defining hallmark of all good science...to wit: the pursuit of truth, wherever it leads. That's it. Many men through the ages have done just this. Men such as these are the ones that most eminent one of all, Isaac Newton, was referring to as the 'giants' upon whose shoulders he stood; all the while he was playing like a little child & able to look out just a little farther than most could see -- by being thus elevated. :^) >tl;dr There are plenty of bad actors afoot (today more than ever). But as you indicated, some things simply cannot.be.faked. And there are still honest men around who wouldn't dream of doing so, either. <---> Thanks for your inputs, GreerTech. Cheers, Anon. :^) >=== -fmt, prose edit

>>36763 I agree

>>36751 >proceeds to post 14 thousand page treatise... Sigh... I covered exactly three points with just barely enough info that someone who was willing to dig could find answers. I seriously doubt I could compress it much more while still pointing people in the right direction. I could provide A LOT more but it's too much work. Even a seriously non pozzed Chobitsu refuses to entertain the notion because it's been drilled into him for so long. The salient point is that THE BIG ass experiment that they say proves Einstein is the Michelson–Morley experiment and they are lying about it being negative. I KNOW what it says. I have personally seen a very old original copy in a univ. library. Read it myself. The textbooks say the difference measured by the fringes are zero, it is NOT and the paper describing the experiment by the experimenters does not say that. They flat out lie about what they said their results were. And many others also got positive results (velocity differences)during tests that lasted years under many difference conditions. And just to throw my derivation in. While it's not zero it's not the sum total difference of the speed of the earth' s velocity rotating the Sun. I think the aether is dragged along with the mass or influenced by it in some way. I would be willing to bet a large sum that if you did the experiment in a high Earth orbit it would be a bigger difference form THE difference they found on Earth, that they deny. I came to this conclusion after the last Michelson–Morley experiment type experiment was done. They say it "proved" no aether. But...they did it in a mine and got nothing. No difference. Well duuuh, testing aether in a mine, please... >>36748 >gamma-radioactive isotope That has nothing to do with what I spoke of. I don't think Einstein was the originator of that formula but I could be wrong about that.

>>36784 I want to make clear my intentions, it's a big deal relativity and the nature of gravity. There are much simpler explanations of gravity, dark matter and several other things. Like how they are zooming all these ufo's around. My point was to give some slight direction to facts making this clear without wring a treatise. lt was for people who pondered such things and to make sure they knew there were alternatives. And most of all to point out several things they are drilling into us are flat out lies. When I say I don't want argue it's true. If you are not willing to ponder the data I provided that's fine. It cost me nothing. I only say these odd things because when I heard about them it interested me enough to look into it and I found answers that showed me that several things they tell us do not align with the facts. And these fairly large consequential things.

>>36784 >I covered exactly three points with just barely enough info that someone who was willing to dig could find answers. I was teasing you, Grommet. I presume my sh*teposting style is apparent to all oldfags experienced Anons here. Pls forgive :) >Even a seriously non pozzed Chobitsu refuses to entertain the notion because it's been drilled into him for so long. No, repition isn't the reason. It's because that's simply what the clear weight of evidence supports. Simple as. <---> Regardless, I think we here can all agree that robowaifus will be the best.thing.EVAR. since the VERY MAJOR scientific breakthrough that was the invention of ice cream by that Aristotle guy (or was is Socrates...never can sort those two out tbh) amirite!? :DD

>>36786 >I was teasing you, Grommet Fair enough. It's sometimes difficult to understand meaning with text. I know I'm belaboring the point please excuse but a LOT of stuff that they say proves Einstein does none of the sort. I asked the duckduckgo AI it said, >"If the Michelson-Morley experiment had shown a difference, it would have challenged Einstein's theory of special relativity, which relies on the idea that the speed of light is constant for all observers. However, the experiment produced a null result, supporting Einstein's theory and indicating that the luminiferous aether does not exist." But this is not true. There is a difference and a lot of stuff. Like the mass increase in particle accelerators, the weird behavior of gyroscopes, rail guns not having an equal and opposite reaction on their firing mounts and quite a few mechanical devices show that this force is not relativity but the issue of, what I call, "inertia waves" They are, sort of, the equivalent of electromagnetic waves but based, best as I know on the acceleration of accelerated matter. But instead all this is attributed to the brilliant Einstein and his increasing mass relativity nonsense. This, I say and so far I know of no one else saying this, accounts for the very large missing "dark matter". It's not missing. The matter is emitting inertia waves giving it the impression of being more massive than it is.

>>36793 dark matter is the aether, literally and just like no educated person today thinks light is a mechanical wave that requires a medium, no one will think gravity is a force that requires matter in the future

>>36761 I replied to this here, >>36796 BTW the above links show these people have no imagination, at all.

>>36797 >I replied to this here, Thanks for taking the time, Anon. >BTW the above links show these people have no imagination, at all. I'll presume you're referring to Dr. Hugh Ross. LOL Founding and running the literal world's premiere Science Apologetics ministry, writing ~30 books (so far), having ~190IQ (my own personal estimate, from years of studying his writings), being an actual, non-meme Aspie (just like myself), and reaching the scholarly world for the Gospel of Jesus Christ like no other man alive today... will do that to you. <---> Actually, that's simply not true. I know him personally, and have engaged in-the-flesh with that entire ministry for years now. His ability to understand the realities of unseen phenomenon going on in the universe (by definition a skill requiring a high-degree of imagination) all around us is unparalled in my own experience. The breadth and depth of his understanding in so many different topical domains is nothing short of amazing IMO. >tl;dr Hugh Ross is one-of-a-kind. I wish I were half the man he is when I grow up! :D Cheers, Grommet. :^) --- https://www.cru.org/us/en/how-to-know-god/my-story-a-life-changed/hugh-ross.html https://www.cslewisinstitute.org/resources/the-side-b-stories-hugh-ross/ https://archive.org/details/LifeStoryFoundationDr.HughRossLifeStory

>>36747 I haven't heard anything about "inertia waves". The behavior of gyroscopes is well understood >>36793 Railguns not having recoil would be a refutation of Newton, which is even more controversial. What me and Chobitsu are getting at, is that your "Einstein-is-wrong" theory has to explain why and how Einstein is right about everything else.

>>36713 >>36799 It should also be noted that the Michelson–Morley experiment wasn't the sole silver bullet. There were multiple separate experiments that disproved the Aether. Going back to the Correspondence Principle, the new theory will have to explain why they failed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luminiferous_aether

>>36799 >The behavior of gyroscopes is well understood Read the link I linked here, >>36796 and then explain to me simply and clearly why I am wrong? If it so clear you should be able to dash this off in seconds. >What me and Chobitsu are getting at, is that your "Einstein-is-wrong" theory has to explain why and how Einstein is right about everything else. I explain at the link. They are like the the blind Man feeling the trunk of an elephant and explaining an elephant is a rope. They are like people in flat land declaring round balls walls. They can not see anything else so they are blind. They are disregarding things that explain everything in a more simple manner. So they shoehorn EVERYTHING into, OMG Einstein's a genius. [sic] I;m not that smart but I can see when things don't add up. You don't have to be smart to see that. You just have to be able "to see" and not take what everyone else says for granted.

I need to make it plain I am NOT trying to antagonize people just to be doing so but I do think this is important that this gas-lighting about relativity stop. It literally pollutes all science. Even Chobitsu's esteemed colleague which I assure you is many magnitudes of levels of brilliance above by rotting cretch of brain, he's wrong because the "flow" is against anyone who sees differently.

"my" rotting

>>36798 >>BTW the above links show these people have no imagination, at all. That was a bit harsh. I retract it, If I could I would banish those bits into the aether into a black hole.

>>36799 >I haven't heard anything about "inertia waves" That's because I made the word up as being analogous to electromagnetic waves.

>>36802 Knocking the easy ones out of the way; The antigravity wheel is thoroughly explained in this trilogy of videos. I know you don't agree with torque redirection, but it works to explain it, and it's consistent with humanities nature of the universe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeyDf4ooPdo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ty9QSiVC2g0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLMpdBjA2SU As for the inerter, I didn't see how it broke our view of physics. Looks like a simple case of inertia redirection to prevent damage. (unfortunately, the youtube link was deleted) And lastly, the Dean Drive does not work https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_drive

>>36807 humanities *perception of the* nature of the universe

>>36805 I understand, I know personally how heated one can be when debating. I also hope that I'm not coming off as "erm, trust the hecking science!"

I don;t have time to watch a bunch of videos right now, but I will tomorrow. But it seems odd to me you couldn't explain"where" the torque goes in a couple of sentences. You hardly need videos for this.

>>36807 >Dean Drive does not work and wikipedia also tels you that the M snd M experiment was null, but it was not. They also tell you othersd experiments had a nul result, where they were not. I say it did work and have two, I believe, PHD level physicist who tested on a plain linoleum floor and it worked for them. Have you tested one?

>>36814 Outward, 90 degrees from the force. Second video, 55 seconds in, explains it in detail

Let's note what is wrong with the Wikipedia article. They leave a lot out and provide, maybe deliberately, misleading information. The test they did, the machine was on wheels on a slick floor. When off, they easily rolled it, when on, Stine pushed on it and it pushed back. It would move of it's own accord(powered). The test they refer to Stine doing on a pendulum was NOT deans device. They tried to get around his patent as Dean would not let them remove the device. So what they tested was NOT the Dean drive. I read Stine's full accounts of this. The article in Wikipedia is misleading you to think they tested the drive on a pendulum. Not true.

>>36817 >Outward, 90 degrees from the force And yet, people easily, even little children pick up 40Kg over their heads. So you are saying if a force is at 90 degrees somehow it magically reduces the force of gravity pulling the 40kg down? That what you are saying? THINK about what you are saying. You are in fact declaring anti-gravity. If the force is not being pressed against the hand holding it, then what is it pressing against? This is simple. You are being bamboozled by math and forsaking common sense. Don't feel bad. I've seen a physics teacher do the same and he is holding it himself. But he can not bring himself to recognize it. Here's a clear case that he can barely pick up a 90kg weight but if it spins and he rotates it, he easily lifts it over his head but he can't see this is odd as can be. He can't see that he does not have 90kg of force on his hand even though he's holding it. Here's the video in case you actually are willing to pursue it. It really worth watching and not too long. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLMpdBjA2SU Let's be crystal clear. "If" the force was moved to 90 degrees then there would be a huge force on his hand. Would it not? And if all the force goes to his hand at 90 degrees then what the hell is holding up 90 Kg??????????????????? Where is this magic stuff thta holds up 90kg just because a force is moved to 90 degrees??? It's not him. You plainly see that. It can't be missed. BTW the links worked for me I'm not sure which one you had trouble with.

>>36823 It's not anti-gravity though, just a very clever use of forces. In the videos I sent, the scales never lose any weight. The video that was deleted was the railgun shock absorber.

I want to state this a different way so it's perfectly clear. "If" some way the gyro provides a force going up, then the force on his hand, at the other end of as LEVER ARM would be twice the 90 kg that he already could barely lift. Gravity does NOT disappear just because you channel a force in a different direction. Do you know of any gravity cancelers (in your world view), no. But in mine, it is pushing against the combined inertia, I think, of the universe by emitting "inertia waves". You can throw all the math equations you want at me but it's damn difficult to square the math with the actual results. This universe inertia is the same inertia that exists when you stand in a bus aisle and the brakes are thrown on. You keep going, the bus stops. You are chained to the universe. Imagine little kids screaming "It's everywhere, it's everywhere". :)

>>36823 do you not know how vector forces work, at 90 degrees you get 1F and 0F

I can't find the Lagiewka Bumper video. I archived it but it's gone??? Here's one where they crash a cart into a glass bottle with and without the bumper ( I sat, inertia damper). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDiWFqM94gM

I know exactly how vector forces work but that does nothing to explain how 90 Kg of force going down, gravity, somehow evaporates making it easy to lift it. That math, in relation to the problem, is "contrary" to common sense. Will you believe your senses, or the math? Throw in your math 90 kg going down towards the earth. Now how much force do you need to get 90 kg in the air "without" having an equal and opposite force on the guys hand. Explain that. You're leaving out forces. Use your own diagram and 90 kg of force going down how much force is needed to move sideways to make it rise? Do you see him pushing this much force? Are you saying this force disappears? He is holding onto it, lifting it. You readily see that the force needed is not transferred to his hand. Where did it go? Are you saying that gyros somehow push against nothing? All things, in your worldview, push against matter. I say in this case they actually they push against the inertia of the universe. If you agree then you have forsaken all normal forces held by the person and are then verifying what I said. You can't have it both ways that somehow gyros can push against the inertia of the universe while telling me that, gyros can't push against the universe. In your view the 90 degree force MUST push on the holder. If it does not then it pushes on...what??? I don't see why people don't see this. The math thrown out is just a way to justify something that doesn't make sense in the present world view but it doesn't hold up. Show the math, what vector forces are need to overcome the force of gravity. for 90kg? Make a wild guess how fast he spins, it's slow, so the force can't be him spinning so it must be him pushing. Do you see that?

And let's not even talk about the long ass lever arm he is holding it out n. He can not do so unless it spins and he rotates it.

>>36829 >what vector forces are need to overcome the force of gravity. for 90kg f=ma so f=90*10 so anything with >900 thrust will overcome gravity, give me that phd i dont know what youre talking about, its the same explanation for why spinning planets dont collapse into the sun

>>36829 So, let's say the wheel actually does have an antigravity effect, and that's why he can lift it when he couldn't before. Why does the scale stay the same on both the human model and the desk model? Why did the scale actually go down when he stopped the gyroscopic support and let it fall loosely?

>>36823 >Counters gravity Yes, the gyroscope does counter gravity via a torque vector orthogonal to the vector of angular momentum. Notably, to lift large masses easily this way, you must still move into its gyroscopic procession. If he turned against the procession, it would feel heavier. Where I think you're losing people is in your word choice. Counter gravity is better than anti gravity. Anti gravity implies a force that either cancels local gravity fields, or pushes against local gravity fields. The gyroscope provides vectors that help to counter gravity's force, rather than interacting with gravity directly. >>36828 >Inertial dampening Nice video, great reminder of how important simple mechanisms are for safety.

>>36819 It's easy to shimmy along a flat floor. I can do that too by moving my body on a skateboard on a linoleum floor. >as Dean would not let them remove the device. That's suspicious on its own. If you have a magical device, and you don't let anyone analyze it, that casts a big shadow of doubt. Surely if one was independently testing my magical box, I would refrain from patent suing.

>>36834 I could not have said it better

>>36832 >antigravity effect eeeehhh, I may have used that but that's not what I think is happening. But if say that people know what you are talking about in categorical way. What I think is happening is that it is creating a wave form that pushes against the inertia field of the universe. Like a current in a coil pushes or attracts to a magnet. >Why did the scale actually go down when he stopped the gyroscopic support and let it fall loosely? It appears to me he is still moving, rotating it, it while dropping it. Maybe that would account for the weight loss. "If" there were not so many systems that did this sort of stuff then maybe I would buy into the 90 degrees gyro thing but one day I was looking at it and realized that all these were doing the same thing. >Inertial dampening You do realize that all thing thing is, is a straight gear like in a rack and pinion and it is attached to a flywheel. When hit, it spins the flywheel up quickly.

>>36834 >Where I think you're losing people is in your word choice. Counter gravity is better than anti gravity I went back searched the whole page for gravity and nowhere did I say antigravity.

>>36838 Inertia is the property of matter that it wants to continue going. The more matter, the more inertia it has. I don't know how empty space would have a "field" of a property of matter. As for the weight loss in the video, you can see the needle slam back the moment he relaxes his muscles, and it falls loosely.

>>36835 >It's easy to shimmy along a flat floor I read Stines article on his inspection of the device. He mentioned it was not that effect. They inspected it but were not allowed to take it away from Dean. They were not allowed to take it apart. I think pointless to go on about this. You do not see what I see. Professor Laithwaite did, hardly anyone else in the scientific community. He was not some fool, or at least in some aspects he invented maglev and linear electric motors. I think he made a mistake by saying, or they say he said, he might not have, that it contradicted Newtons laws. It doesn't, it pushes against the inertial mass of the universe. I'm willing to give evidence of this but not go on and on about it. You don't believe, that's fine. I do think it's important to talk about these things even if everyone thinks I'm fool. Maybe some day you will see something, like I did, that changes your mind but it seems to be made up. Here's a students thesis for a degree where he measured the recoil from rail guns. >>36812

>>36840 >inertia Maybe my wording is incorrect, maybe not. If there is a field emitted that pushes against all the matter in the universe, then it's not an entirely inappropriate word. There is no verbiage for this as everyone says it doesn't exist, like the aether. I say it does and can provide reasonable proof of this. Yet the main points are completely ignored while there's a constant refrain of criticism around the edges or it's what I see. >The more matter, the more inertia it has. I don't know how empty space would have a "field" of a property of matter. They didn't know that about electromagnetic fields at one time. I've shown you several devices that show this anomalous behavior. Given you the testimony of at least three Masters level engineers or physicist, if you don't believe then, that's on you. You can say I WON, that's fine. While you have nibbled around the edges I see that for me you have not provided anything that changes my mind and yours will not be changed, further talk on this futile.

>>36843 >If there is a field emitted that pushes against all the matter in the universe, then it's not an entirely inappropriate word. I get what you're getting at now. Inertia is that, the tendency for matter to not move or to keep moving. Now, if the inertia comes from a universe-wide field like you said, or from matter itself like is taught, is anybody's guess.

>>36843 >>36844 For a similar effect, look up the Equivalence Principle. Please note however, that it was created by Einstein https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equivalence_principle

>>36845 https://www.einstein-online.info/en/spotlight/equivalence_principle/ The guy here also mulls the connection between mass and inertia https://www.askamathematician.com/2009/11/q-why-do-heavy-objects-bend-space-and-what-is-it-they-are-bending/ The Higgs field sounds a lot like your "inertia field" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Higgs_mechanism As for what gravity is made of, we're still working on it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graviton

As for the Dean Drive, I've looked at these videos, and I really don't see how it's not just a shimmy-drive. Maybe there's something I'm missing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXdG5fxDYc8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eEYiFL7kZw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJcbe8P5900

If you ever do your own interferometer experiment, you can see if a surface with centrifugal effects bends light.

THROD OF THE DAY <---> Clearly the single-most intredasting thread on the entire Internets today. Noice work, /robowaifu/ ! Cheers. :^)

>>36803 >Even Chobitsu's esteemed colleague <colleague OK, you made me lel a little, Grommet. He may be esteemed in scholarly & other circles, but me -- a highschool dropout -- am only 'a beggar at the door', so to speak. :^) And not only is Dr. Ross one of the smartest men alive today, he's also one of the kindest I've ever met as well. Try to catch a video of him doing some Q&A at a large church after one of his presentations. It doesn't matter if the audience member is a tenured professor at one of the most prominent universities on Earth -- rife in the Literature; Joe Sixpack who impatiently just wants to 'go watch the game' that afternoon; or an elementary school student who really understands almost nothing of what was said. I say, it doesn't matter -- Ross treats everyone with the same level of patience & respect, regardless. And I can absolutely vouch personally that this is exactly the way he is in real life; that he's basically incapable of insincere affectations, AFAICT. Just like Mr. Rogers was, "what you see is what you get". Cheers, Anon! >=== -minor edit

>>36848 is it even necessary anymore, didnt nasa make a big deal a few years ago about finding a black hole that made this irrefutable, and people just brushed it off cuz no one really had a problem with relativity anymore and just spent the rest of the year talking about the team of nerd simps gave all the credit to some no-body bitch that didnt contribute anything at all other than buying coffee and resetting computer passwords

>>36847 Vids one and two are not Dean drives. Three...not sure can't see. I have a book written by a guy who was Dean's sons best friend. Last time I checked it was collectors item and people wanted over a hundred dollars for them. He hung out with Dean's son and Dean told him everything. It's two unequal weights like a tree shaker that shakes apples off trees. It has a rail that locks on one phase. The real key is, it accelerates and accelerating body. That's the key. A gyro is accelerating in a circle,when you translate it the acceleration becomes higher. It's all about surge strength. Just like you shake electrons fast enough they make EM waves, so does matter. I believe this is why particle accelerators "appear" to have mass increase. I came up with the idea that this would explain dark matter. Or I'm the only one I've heard saying that. It may be wrong but it's consistent and there are lots of things that show these traits. Stine worked on the space program and said that rockets had to have a small amount of extra fuel that couldn't accounted for. He postulated it was the inertia fields (he didn't call it that I don't think) from high acceleration. >If you ever do your own interferometer experiment, you can see if a surface with centrifugal effects bends light been done. Sagnac effect. They explained it away..somehow I don't understand most of their explanations but this one. "...The beam traveling around the loop in the direction of rotation will have farther to go than the beam traveling counter to the direction of rotation..." After I wrote the above I think I misinterpreted your post. I say "just" a rotating ring would not do anything. It must have a spiked acceleration and then I'm not sure if it would or not have effect. You know those balls held on strings. You let one on the end go and smacks the one on the far side out. I wonder if you had only two big steel balls and then spun a set up like the Sagnac experiment such that they were not periodically locked. Then measure the light fringes over time. Right when the ball hit and speeded up...maybe...or would the one slowing as the other speed up cancel????

>>36851 I shouldn't have said what I said. I wish I could take it back but...too late.

>>36853 I should explain better (and get better at drawing) The light passes through a ring slightly offset of the center, like a child's finger passes through an adult man's ring. Then the ring is spun, to create an artificial inertia gravity field just like in a spinning space station. The question is, would that bend the light just like gravity does? About the Dean Drive, I halfway understand your explanation. I think it's maybe my fault I don't.

>>36854 >I shouldn't have said what I said. I wish I could take it back but...too late. While I consider that a postive on your part Anon, don't worry about me in that regard. I've been sh*teposting for a while now, and my skin's reasonably-thick! :D Regardless, I'm glad you and other Anons are all here to challenge each other. "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another." [1] This is how we are going to win as a team! If we keep each other 'on our toes' together we'll all cross the finish line successfully. TWAGMI <---> Cheers, Anons. :^) --- 1. https://biblehub.com/proverbs/27-17.htm (BSB) >=== -minor edit

>>36856 Based Bible quote

>>36855 >The light passes through a ring slightly offset of the center, Understand I am heavily, heavily guessing. Just like any old wheel rotating would not think cause any sort of emitted inertia wave. However if you have some sort of seriously huge stellar object, like neutron star matter, well I don't know. Just the imbalance between one side and the other due to immense mass...??? Found a proper page on the Dean drive http://web.archive.org/web/20100325154708/http://www.inertialpropulsion.com/the_dean_drive.htm A weird quirk I might mention. They use the Sagnas effect for ring laser gyros in airplanes for navigation. Very long lines of fiber optics rolled up. You would think these would be perfect but they're not. They drift and some sort of lock up that they have to dither the signal to stop. They have some explanations but it's not really clear to me that these are the real reason. It may be that there is something there that could be tested.

>>36860 Thank you for the site

>>36844 >I get what you're getting at now. Inertia is that, the tendency for matter to not move or to keep moving. Now, if the inertia comes from a universe-wide field like you said, or from matter itself like is taught, is anybody's guess. A clarification. I don't know for sure but seeing as how inertia seems to be everywhere and I do not know of any change in it from position. Like I don't think it changes it's value in low earth orbit as compared to on Earth. As you said, I think correctly, >Inertia is that, the tendency for matter to not move or to keep moving to the best of my knowledge this has been described by most people as all the mass in the universe creating this. And seeing as how the only way I can fathom that these devices are doing what they are doing is that they are pushing out some sort of what I call a wave, against something. It would seem, or I reason, that this wave, I simply call an "Inertia wave" is pushing against the inertia field of the universe. As for it pushing against nothing. Well that's exactly what people say is in a space vacuum, nothing, but I say and have definitive, repeated evidence, M & M experiment and hundreds of others, that this is not so. Something is causing the velocity difference and it was formerly called the aether before they magically lied and made it disappear.

I'm writing up some responses to Chobitsu and Grommet. In the meantime, check out this write up and visualizations about EM Waves as a Bivector. >How a plane can represent EM waves. In standard physics, an electromagnetic wave consists of two perpendicular oscillating fields Electric field E and Magnetic field B. These fields are always perpendicular to each other and to the direction of wave propagation. In Geometric Algebra, an EM wave is best described using a bivector F=E+iB, which encapsulates the full field as a single geometric entity rather than as two separate vectors. Why a plane (Bivector) instead of traditional vectors? A bivector represents an area spanned by two vectors instead of just the vectors themselves. The plane in the visualization is created from E and B. Since E and B oscillate perpendicularly, their sum forms a rotating plane in higher dimensional space. This plane rotates as the wave propagates, showing how the electromagnetic field evolves. We can view this as two triangles or a singular plane. Trad_EMWave.gif is the traditional view. GA_EMWave_Triangles.gif is showing "influenced sinusoidal space" of the bivector. GA_EMWave_Plane.gif shows the whole Bivector. GA_EMWave_Triangles_Phase.gif and GA_EMWave_Plane_Phase.gif (spoiler'd) are showing a 90 degree phase offset. Why the triangle visualizations are a problem: This visualization uses two separate triangles, which doesn't correctly represent a bivector: Triangles only connect three points. A bivector is an extended, smooth plane, not disjointed parts. The bivector is a single solid plane, spanning the field. This visualization is great at one thing though, showing a resemblance of the traditional view of EM vectors propagating. Since the EM field is a plane, its influence isn't across the whole plane; rather, it is localized to points in space where the field strengths E and B are nonzero. The field vectors oscillate in time and space, meaning that at any given moment, the field's intensity varies sinusoidally across different regions, forming a wave-like propagation rather than a uniform presence over the entire plane. This localized oscillation creates the characteristic electromagnetic wave behavior, where energy is transported in discrete wavefronts rather than uniformly spreading across the entire bivector surface. You could consider this triangular visualization as the "influenced sinusoidal space" of the Bivector. The bivector plane is the "idealized" representation of the field. The triangular representation might instead show the regions where the wave's influence is strongest at a given phase. This would make the triangular distortion a projection of the sinusoidal influence of the EM field, similar to how in relativity, we see apparent distortions in spatial intervals due to projection effects. In reality, the electromagnetic field is not just a single plane but rather a continuous, oscillating field in space. The EM field forms an extended structure where: E and B exist at every point in space. Each point has a different amplitude and phase due to the propagation of the wave. What we're seeing is only a rendering of a single 2D slice of the field at a fixed spatial position. This slice captures one bivector representation of the EM wave at a specific location. It's kind of hard to talk about or show because the behavior of the electromagnetic field is best understood as a 4D rotation in spacetime, making it difficult to visualize in 3D. What we're seeing here is just a slice of this higher-dimensional rotation. >How is it 4D? Since an electromagnetic wave is described by the bivector field F=E+iB, the field naturally lives in 4D Minkowski spacetime (mathematical description of spacetime in the absence of gravitation). Instead of simple 3D vector rotations, the EM field undergoes a Lorentzian rotation in spacetime, meaning: The electric field E rotates into the magnetic field B. The wave propagates in time and space simultaneously, causing a continuous transformation. Why does it look like a plane though? In 3D, we can only project part of this full rotation. The triangles and plane (bivector surface) we're visualizing are shadows of a full 4D rotation. This part might be confusing because we're representing time as sequential frames in the GIF, but in reality, we are missing the full time component of the electromagnetic wave's evolution in spacetime so it's only possible to show slices as frames. >But there's another axis (X - Propagation) that can be used!? Can you just add more information in this axis or change this axis altogether to properly view ? The problem with this is, if we try to add more information along X, it only gives us multiple time slices side-by-side, not the full 4D effect. There's no more information to be used to plot, all variables are used up (E, B, and k). In essence, all the information is already being plotted, but we're forced to collapse one of the four dimensions to fit within 3D space. The rotation of the EM field is a Lorentz rotation, meaning that E and B are mixing in spacetime, not just in 3D space. Think of trying to draw a 3D object on paper; you can project it, but you lose depth information. Similarly, we're projecting a 4D rotation into 3D, which inherently loses some of its structure. >>36759 >Furthermore, electromagnetic waves are really just geometric rotations in Spacetime. When an electromagnetic wave propagates, what is actually happening is a rotational oscillation of the electromagnetic field bivector F in spacetime. >Where did you learn that? Because it just answered a question I've had since High School I figured it out myself via translation of Maxwell's Equations into Geometric Algebra. I have been extremely curious about what EM really was since a kid and after many many years, I finally figured it out. Traditional math is great and all but I'm a very visual person and the two sine waves oscillating was always lacking a good mental picture and when you consider spacetime, this two sine waves oscillating representation falls apart completely in my opinion.

>>36330 >self-lubricating and self-cleaning orifices...trying to find a solid material that would be slippery to the touch with just water I maybe, possibly have a solution to this here, >>36884

>>36883 >I'm writing up some responses to Chobitsu and Grommet. Neat! Looking forward to it, Axial. >Think of trying to draw a 3D object on paper; you can project it, but you lose depth information. Similarly, we're projecting a 4D rotation into 3D, which inherently loses some of its structure. Naicu. While it's useful to some extent to consider the stretching-out of the universe as an expanding 'sphere' it does lead to the common misnomer that there is a 'center' to the universe (b/c after all, spheres have centers, r-right?) The fact we're all 'riding' in 3D space on the surface of a almost-perfectly-flat 4D plane is both hard to visualize, and extremely hard to convey to others, in my experience. The easiest way I've found to at least get across the basic point that our 3D-world experience is only part of the picture is to discuss the surface of the Earth's crust as really the only part of it's reality we engage with in everyday life. The vast rest of it we never actually see or engage with commonly. That's a poor analogy in fact, but it's a step in the right direction, IMO. Cheers. :^)

>>36834 >its gyroscopic procession I wasn't going to say anything but can't help myself because...it's so easy. [Little kid holding on to bar with heavy weight on a bearing. They spin up weigh (gyroscope) and then spin kid around. Heavy weight he can not lift floats up in the air.] Kid,"WOW! what is that! [Super esteemed scientist that everyone pays attention too and worships him (like Einstein)] Scientist,"its gyroscopic precession" Kid [blank look on his face] "uhhh....what's gyroscopic precession" scientist,"that's when gyroscopes fly up in the air with very little force applied." Kid, [more blank looks, but says nothing because he knows when adults are feeding him nonsense he's not supposed argue with them.]

>>36845 "...The equivalence principle can be considered an extension of the principle of relativity, the principle that the laws of physics are invariant under uniform motion..." This is about the most Jewy thing in the world. Somehow the "brilliant" Einstein found that things weighed...what they weigh. And told everyone that and people said,"Oh what a genius, this must mean relativity is true". God help us all... BTW didn't Galileo show us that gravity acted the same on masses if they had the same aerodynamic shape when falling? Doesn't that mean, things weigh what they weigh.

One reason I so repelled by relativity is what was done with it "socially". So a gay guy and go to bathhouses and has anal sex with 50 Men. People hearing this aghast and tell him it's wrong. He replies,"No because everything is relative". Now this may sound silly to people now but I assure you this used to be constantly omnipresent, people saying this or that doesn't matter because,"everything is relative". People don't say this much, or at all now, but you have no idea how many times I've heard this.

>>36883 >I figured it out myself via translation of Maxwell's Equations into Geometric Algebra If not mistaken, and I could be, you are not actually using Maxwell's Equations but Heavyside's much simplifies 4 equations from Maxwell;s 20 quaternion equations. I can not for the life of me remember where i read it or even what the exact "thing" was but I read they used Geometric algebra on Maxwells original 20 equations and came up with all sorts of odd stuff flowing out from them. If I remember correctly they were talking about crazy anti-gravity stuff. And I think it was a normal scientific paper not some odd internet site type stuff by a supposed knowledgeable person. Sigh...I wish would have saved it.

>>36113 >use paging with SSD's to act as gigantic slow RAM for AI I ran across this again. I was looking at motherboards and thought about this. They are now making boards with far more slots for SSD's on cards and way bigger memory. I suspect to feed the quest for local AI. So here's one SSD, WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe Internal Gaming Solid State Drive with Heatsink - Works with Playstation 5, Gen4 PCIe, M.2 2280, Up to 7,300 MB/s - WDS100T2XHE for $100 USD. Wow. And a while ago just as an exercise I said hey what if we simulated neurons with 16 bits and came up with 170GB would be able to represent all 80 billion human neurons at 16 bits each.[not saying this is actually human level] >>32606 So now we see people using SSD's and above, to swap out AI's or page them. Now I'm fairly ignorant about AI's but have seen some things they can do and what if we have "severely" narrow interest AI's So let's say we have 7B. I have began to assume that means you need about 7GB to run it. With a 128GB RAM you could run several of those. Maybe have one 7B to only navigate. I think you could do it with this. Maybe have a more powerful 32B to listen, and converse. Backed up by a couple of 2 TB SSD"s on this fast bus they are doing now. I think one of the big blocks is to have the waifu have the ability to categorize information. Hard to explain. So it can recognize and do some actions based on what it hears but the key to acting is to squash the amount of data it needs from the SSD for speed. Maybe somehow set up the library of congress catalog system and use it to make it where it could rapidly more the pertinent section of data she needs from the SSD to working memory. I thought I would mention it as maybe someonehas a bright idea on how that catogorization scheme would be done. "If" it could be done I think it would take us closer to a fuly functioning waifu. I think the hardware is getting really close. If you have the cash, $5,000 for 1 TB memory, processors and big mother board you can get real close right now.

>>36831 This picture you linked http://bhlnasxdkbaoxf4gtpbhavref7l2j3bwooes77hqcacxztkindztzrad.onion/.media/e54491d9626ff811f3601ab82483785af24514c5d14741da169f966e73a29192.gif if you know anything about "pole shift" that picture will scare the hell out of you.

>>36834 [Little kid holding on to bar with heavy weight on a bearing. They spin up weight (gyroscope) and then spin kid around. Heavy weight he can not lift floats up in the air.] Kid,"WOW! what is that! [Super esteemed scientist that everyone pays attention too and worships him (like Einstein)] Scientist,"its gyroscopic precession" Kid [blank look on his face] "uhhh....what's gyroscopic precession" scientist,"that's when the torque vector orthogonal to the vector of angular momentum happens" Kid [blank look on his face] "uhhh....what's the torque vector push against and what happens then? scientist,"that's when gyroscopes fly up in the air with very little force applied." Kid, [more blank looks, but says nothing because he knows when adults are feeding him nonsense he's not supposed argue with them.]

>>36889 So, my favorite example of this sort of linguistic abuse is from the baste movie Lion King (the original, of course). The monke Rafiki bonks young Simba on his noggin with his magical monke stick. >"OWW!! Whad'ya do that for!?" <Doesn't matter...it's in the past.

>>36893 The torque vector of a gyroscope practically "pushes" against change in orientation using kinetic energy from angular momentum. It's simply Newton's laws of motion acting on a rotating mass which is reacting to external force vectors. It could act relative to nearest gravity well, which helps tops and bicycles stay up, act against your body in amusement park rides, etc... This is oversimplifying, this article is a good explainer. https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/University_Physics/University_Physics_(OpenStax)/Book%3A_University_Physics_I_-_Mechanics_Sound_Oscillations_and_Waves_(OpenStax)/11%3A__Angular_Momentum/11.05%3A_Precession_of_a_Gyroscope

>>36899 Neat, thanks Kiwi! Added to my science bookmarks.

>>36899 [Little kid holding on to bar with heavy weight on a bearing. They spin up weight (gyroscope) and then spin kid around. Heavy weight he can not lift floats up in the air.] Kid,"WOW! what is that! [Super esteemed scientist that everyone pays attention too and worships him (like Einstein)] Scientist,"its gyroscopic precession" Kid [blank look on his face] "uhhh....what's gyroscopic precession" scientist,"that's when the torque vector orthogonal to the vector of angular momentum happens" Kid [blank look on his face] "uhhh....what's the torque vector push against and what happens then? Scientist," well that's when torque vector of a gyroscope practically "pushes" against change in orientation using kinetic energy from angular momentum" Kid [looking confused but then brightens when he has an idea] Kid,"So angular momentum, that's the same thing that happens when when you fire a railgun and there's very little force on the mount compared to the force on the ammo that's ejected from the railgun" (see note 1) Kid[really hitting his stride now] and this is all the "equivalency principle" like Einstein said!" [Scientist visibly flustered] Scientist,"no, no , no you have it all wrong. It's not the same" kid,"Then maybe it's the same as the heavy cart that doesn't smash a glass when a flywheel is rapidly spun up the moment the glass is hit but it shatters to pieces if the flywheel is unattached and does not rapidly start spinning. Like in the video. That's angular momentum...right?" Video where they crash a cart into a glass bottle with and without the bumper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDiWFqM94gM [Scientist turning red] Scientist,"no, no , no you have it all wrong. It's not the same" Scientist,"no, we don't talk about the railgun or the spin up of flywheels effecting force. Only when we talk about gyroscopes." Kid,"but, don't these seem the same..." Scientist,"Doesn't matter...it's in the past, we named this and all you need to know is we are right" scientist,"all you need to know is that's when gyroscopes fly up in the air with very little force applied." Kid, [more blank looks, but says nothing because he knows when adults are feeding him nonsense he's not supposed argue with them.] Note (1) Abstract of physics thesis of Matthew K. Schroeder for a physics degree Naval Postgraduate School. "...An interesting debate in railgun research circles is the location, magnitude, and cause of recoil forces, equal and opposite to the launched projectile. The various claims do not appear to be supported by direct experimental observation. The goal of this research paper is to develop an experiment to observe the balance of forces in a model railgun in a static state. ..." Quote from thesis, "...a reaction to the rails or power source. By suspending a model railgun as a pendulum and mechanically decoupling the power supply from the rails via a liquid metal contact we were able to precisely record the force on a mechanically coupled rail-and-armature system with a known current. We then decoupled the rails from the power supply and the armature, fixed the armature to the table, and precisely recorded the reaction force. With current at 2200A in our model gun the theoretical force on the armature (using Kerrisk’s L’ of 0.895µH/m) was 2.16N yet the reaction force on the rails was less than we could measure (with sensitivities as low as 0.024N). Thus, the magnitude of the theoretical force on the armature was at least two orders of magnitude greater than the recoil..." https://archive.org/details/aninvestigationo109453528/aninvestigationo109453528/

esteemed scientist,"we named this long ago" esteemed scientist," What difference at this point does it make?" hhttps://i.imgflip.com/1bzmnv.jpg

>>36908 >Heavy weight floats up It does not, the kid in this example still needs to input significant force whilst moving into precession. They are using the energy stored in angular momentum to counter some of gravity's force. >Railgun tangent This is unrelated to how gyroscopes work. Recoil is still real. The only real similarity to how gyroscopes work is reliance on Newton's 3rd law, objects resist change to their inertia. Usually the devices firing the load have high masses to increase their inertia because of Newton's 3rd law. See this video of a canon if you doubt Newton's 3rd law. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JvEauyaI5M >Cart doesn't break glass tangent In this case, the cart doesn't break the glass because the kinetic energy of the collision was transferred. The rod on the front of the cart hits the glass, an equal but opposite force is imparted by the glass. The rod then transfers this energy into flywheels. By doing this, the total forces felt by the glass are greatly diminished. Close to half the kinetic energy from the collision goes into the flywheel. It's the same reason rubber balls bounce, the kinetic energy from a collision is transferred. Also why bumper cars have big things of rubber and springs. Also why cars have springs in their suspension. The only real similarity to how gyroscopes work towards helping elevate large rotating masses is that they both involve transferring kinetic energy. It's honestly simpler than you're making it out to be. These are just simple well understood aspects of physics. Heck, try spinning with something heavy, you should intuitively be able to feel how and why that mass becomes easier to lift for you. I use this principle to help with my lifts when working out.

>>36911 >the kid in this example still needs to input significant force whilst moving into precession This is absolutely, definitely 100% not true and anyone, anyone can see this. Don't try to gas-light me I do not appreciate it. Here's what is going on. Scientist could not explain what they saw so they said,"the torque is being transferred" but what they really did was this. https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/e7/54/d6e754d24aaef324c1595e68583ace7a.png They just made this shit up. Now some of you say I am stating Newton's law is not conserved. I am not. You put words into my mouth I dd not say. I say that the force is transferred against the inertia of the universe and pushes against it. Anyone with eyes can see the force is not done by whoever is holding the gyro. >Railgun tangent >This is unrelated to how gyroscopes work) >See this video of a canon if you doubt Newton's 3rd law. bait and switch. You can't explain the railgun so you start talking about cannons Says who it's unrelated??? Is one set of forces in one device somehow magically different from the other? I, am completely consistent in talking about this being the same force while others talk about (magic) converting angular momentum into force that doesn't push against the person holding the device. Which of us is on a tangent? What has been done is that a centripetal force, one going outward in which you would draw a vector of the force pointing outward "somehow" its been determined that it flips, with no "equal and opposite force", onto a completely different direction. Now if this doesn't sound screwy to you then you are not paying attention. Here he tried to show me the vector forces >>36827 but he left out the 90Kg going down. Normal engneering analysis if you draw all the vector forces you can add them all up and they all perfectly work out. But if you draw the actual vector forces in gyroscopes, assuming the "standard model" you will have to magically switch some of them to get the actual reaction of a gyroscope. You can not add them up like normal vectors without some (magic) "transfer the torque 90 degrees" or some other odd trick to get it to happen. Why is this transfer of forces so different from any others? Well I have an answer that is consistant. The alternative just saying,"well we explained this long ago" is meaningless. You know they explained ulcers "long ago" but someone found out it was caused by a bacteria by "paying attention" and noticing people given large antibiotic doses had their ulcers disappear. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make him drink. And stop pointing me to made up stuff like "the torque is being redirected" because this is totally made up and meaningless. You're just throwing words at me while not defining what these words mean. Explain this "torque changing direction force". You may not believe what I say but there's no magic and all of it is fundamentally consistent. There's no "magic happens here" stuff.

90 degree vector torque redirection https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/e7/54/d6e754d24aaef324c1595e68583ace7a.png

Anyone else think gyroscopes are bizarre magic, or are we good? (Grommet, I accept you don't understand, I give up on teaching you.)

>>36915 >gyroscopes are bizarre magic Nada. I do not think gyroscopes are bizarre magic. I think your explanation for their actions is. Totally different. I expect the vast majority of people will read all this and think me some fool.That's ok. There will a few, very few, who will "immediately" see my objections and realize they have been had.

>>36915 Lol. I think we can all agree that the creativity, beauty, and -- above all -- wisdom of the Creator who devised all this reality around is, quite-literally, beyond all our comprehension!! :D Not only am I personally OK with that, I relish it! Life would be far too boring if we served a God we could all put in our little 'God box' haha. :^) >tl;dr >"He's wild, you know. Not like a tame lion." >t. Tumnus

>>36941 >>36949 Reading this In memoriam Hackaday article about Don Lancaster ( >>36951 ), I saw a number of commenters mention this guy, Forrest Mims. [1][2] I don't know anything about him, but do any Anons here know about him so we can figure out the right way/what to save up from his stuff that could help robowaifuists here, before he passes away too? (As a caution to us: Don Lancaster's ebay site has now disappeared, and -- as Grommet points out -- we're lucky to still have his personal site [which could vanish anytime], for example.) <---> ALSO: Any other valuable engineering or other resources Anons know of that it would behoove us all to preserve for our robowaifu's AIs in the future? I know I've personally saved 10's of thousands of individual pics/pages of Interwebs throds + /robowaifu/ , locally, through the years for information+redpilling+training, etc... but what else should I be saving? What are you Anons personally saving for your/her/our posterity & legacy & continued intelligence (as in IQ) going forward through the years? >tl;dr The GH doesn't want Anons in-specific to recall any of this stuff; much less alway rember it [3]. --- 1. https://forrestmims.org/ 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forrest_Mims 3. https://bookanalysis.com/1984/memory-hole/ >=== -add'l hotlink/footnote -prose edit -add 'also' sec

>tfw you may be autismo but you may nevar reach these undreamt-of levels!! https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlxcuGyRdticxSyCJqJX8Ka03FUJh2IKh Lol. Time to up my game. :DD

>>36952 >Forrest Mims He wrote a bunch of starting electronic experimenting type booklets. Very good stuff. Also a ton of electronic articles. Some of this stuff is not really applicable but a vast amount still is. They were taking earlier electronics that vastly lacked the capabilities of present day stuff and doing astonishing stuff by trying every trick they could to get more functionality out of the electronic parts. I was reading his wikipedia article and this gives and idea of the level hacking they were doing, "...Mims conceived a computer that could translate twenty words from one language to another. The input was six potentiometers (variable resistors) each having a dial with 26 letters..." Talk about something from nothing.

Don Lancaster was totally enamored with the postscript programming language. Originally conceived as a way to represent any sort of document it was also a fully Turing complete programming language. I'm not super knowledgeable about it but I think one of it's attributes is that it can do calculations while not needing a lot of memory or computing power. it could take little chunks of code and work on them a little at a time. I think, it sort of like Forth which you can do most anything with. The flexibility and the ability to quickly dash off fairly complicated software is sort of like LISP or Rebol. With the added benefit that since it's a display language it's great for formatting the output so you can see it. A tangent to electronics. At one time Sun computer systems created a whole GUI based on postscript. Later taken up, in spirit, by Steve Jobs at NeXT computer. At one time this GUI "NEWS" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NeWS came very, close to being the GUI for Linux and Unix workstations. It was on many Unix workstations for a while. I suspect if they would have bitten the bullet on this and gone with the postscript GUI instead of the crappy substitutes they have now Linux would have crushed Microsoft. It took slightly more compute so they refused. Sun was having trouble competing with new workstations and with MS as the power of desktops got higher and ceased work on it. A shame.

>>36968 Thanks, Grommet.

BTW here's the internet archiive page for all?? his work. https://archive.org/search?query=Don+Lancaster A boo you might download and read, I think I have a copy is, Incredible Secret Money Machine Don Lancaster It's about how to make money gears towards technical people. I think I haven't read it in decades and in fact I will download and read it again. https://archive.org/details/Incredible_Secret_Money_Machine_Don_Lancaster It would likely have good advice for all of us.

Well, I'm stunned. At the Munich Security Conference, VPOTUS JD Vance just verbally pushed in the faces of the globalist kikes destroying the West (in a room literally FILLED with many of them; the video cuts to these shocked & sour-faced miscreants was priceless lol). I could say much more about this important speech, but I'll just let you decide for yourself, Anons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HurEsyhrQV4 >=== -minor edit

>>36973 Thanks, Grommet! Cheers, Anon. :^)

So I know large building use liquid filled slosh dampener to help prevent them from swaying in the wind. Could we use the same principle to help with balance? We could use whiskey for the slosh fluid and store it in the robowaifu's breasts to keep the design both aesthetically pleasing and practical! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DrAMcSf6TH0 https://www.theburningofrome.com/advices/what-is-a-slosh-damper/

>>36994 This is a topic in general that Kiwi brought up our first year. An inverted-pendulum mass (I think my add is that mass should be our robowaifu's batteries) swaying about inside the torso -- in timing with the hips -- during walking is a really good idea. Good thinking, Anon! :^) >We could use whiskey for the slosh fluid and store it in the robowaifu's breasts to keep the design both aesthetically pleasing and practical! Lel. Not the first time hootch-booba have been suggested here, I can tell you! :D >=== -minor edit

>>36994 >Slosh based inertial dampening / tuned mass damper There are many complications for such systems which vary tremendously by the working fluid, damped springs, fluid control surfaces, etc... As Chobitsu mentions, >>36998 I've been researching this for awhile. Here are the pros and cons of slosh damping relative to solid mass damping in a mobile robot. Pros: Simplicity: Slosh dampers can be a simple sealed box. Just 3D print a box with tuned infill, fill it with fluid, and secure it. Easy testing: Just add fluid until it works. Can have fun designs: Jiggly bobs and buns can dampen unwanted vibrations. Cons: Frequency response: Fluid dynamics become chaotic at high frequencies. Leakage: Alterations to quantity of fluid alter resonance frequency. Leaks can damage other parts. Mass: This fluid adds mass to the system, whereas solid tuned mass damping can use batteries or some other integral parts mass. Worth investigating how well fluid filled breasts and butt would work. 3D printing a mold with engineered channels to allow her breasts to feel good to squeeze whilst effectively damping unwanted oscillations would be a fun challenge.

>>37013 What if you used some sort of high-viscosity gel or something for the booba? Also what about the literal fake booba (silicone implants) roasties are so enamored with? >leakage I think this is a very-high priority design issue to address. Double walled containers at least?

>>37016 Sure, make a normal silicone breast shell, fill it with silicone and silicone oil to inhibit curing to get an easy gel filled breast. Fake oppai rely on silicone bags of saline, or silicone bags of silicone gel. I will always suggest silicone gel because it's inert relative to electronics. I'd put a low density filler in it. but, I'm obsessed with min-maxing every detail. >Double walled container Sealing the silicone shell with silicone is good enough for medial applications, should be good enough for us. Learning about cosmetic surgery in school is finally paying off. :^)

Chobitsu did you change your mind about creating a forum like [redacted], incels.is or looksmax.org, but about robowaifus? If you don't do it someone else is gonna do it sooner or later, since it's the next stage of the whitepill. What is the whitepill? it's a series of ideologies for men that become more popular each day, here is the list: 1-Bluepill (1995-2005): Proto-light bluepill: (1995-2000)(Alt.support.shyness forum created in 1988)("socially anxious men") Light bluepill: (2000-2005)(Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project site created in either 1993 or 1997)("Invcels") Proto-heavy bluepill: (1995-2000)(alt.seduction.fast forum created in 1994)("AFC" meaning "average frustrated chump") Heavy bluepill: (2000-2005)(The Yahoo support group /groups/loveshy-drgilmartin created in 2002)("Love shy men") 2-Redpill (2005-2015): Proto-light redpill: (2005-2010)(Incelsite.com/IncelSupport forum created in 2004)("IncelSupporters") Light redpill: (2010-2015)(the subreddit r/ForeverAlone created in 2010)("Foreveraloners") Proto-heavy redpill: (2005-2010)(Love-shy.com forum created in 2003)("shy boys") Heavy redpill: (2010-2015)(Puahate.com forum created in 2009 and Sluthate.com between 2014-2015 due to ER shooting)("LMSers") 3-Blackpill (2015-2025): Proto-light blackpill: (2015-2020)(incel subreddits created around 2015)("involuntary celibates") Light blackpill: (2020-2025)(incels.is forum created in 2017)("Incels") Proto-heavy blackpill: (2015-2020)(Lookism.net forum created in 2014 or 2015)("PSLers") Heavy blackpill: (2020-2025)(Looksmax.org forum created in 2018)("Looksmaxers") 4-Whitepill (2025-2035): Proto light whitepill: (2025-2030) anti-relationships or anti-marriage subreddit (the original r/MGTOW subreddit gets unbanned around 2027.5) or forum that has the topic of normal mgtow. Light whitepill: (2030-2035) Unbanned normal Mgtow subreddit that practices monk-mode mgtow, or new subreddit called Monk-Mode MGTOW. Proto-heavy whitepill: (2025-2030) robowaifu forum. Heavy whitepill: (2030-2035) robowaifu subreddit (or new robowaifu forum). Basically most of the users from incels.is and looksmax.org are tired of being incels and looksmaxers, most hate their forums now, soon the incels will become mgtows and looksmaxers will become robowaifuers. That's the reason why i believe you should create a robowaifu forum, they are starting to leave those places because they want to change to the whitepill due to hypergamy increasing, i come from those forums. What i described above is the manosphere, it grows every day because most children are now are being born with level 1 autism due to women only having children after their 30s. I can explain more about the blackpill and whitepill if you want. >=== -rm hotlinks

>>37029 me nan takes pills she in a mental asylum

>>37029 Hi Laroi, welcome! No I haven't changed my position about why we focus on IBs. * As to your suggestion, that 'someone else is gonna do it sooner or later' , more power to them!! :^) I'm not at all opposed to other Anons spreading out and creating robowaifu forums of all sort...in fact I relish the idea! There's literally no reason for me to "head up" some other forum. My thinking is pretty straightforward on this, Anon: a) I'm no one special (in fact I'm quite mid in most respects). I was simply the guy that said >"Welp, be the future you want to see, I guess..." and then made a simple step of faith in that direction. b) If such a thing (a robowaifuist movement) is truly organic then it will succeed all on it's own, whether I participate or no. c) IMHO, we are all already past the 'event horizon' for robowaifus to come into existence now. It's simply a matter of time at this point. I and others here could all disappear tomorrow and the Robowaifu Age will still happen at this point. It's simply inevitable, all else being equal. Simple as. <---> Thanks for the great pills breakdown, Anon! I anticipate that practically every segment of all the world's societies will take the robowaifu-pill in one form or fashion, and I don't think it will be long! Baste China is clearly going to lead the charge in this arena. I can only hope somehow that the cooler heads of sound men's minds will prevail in the West, and allow this unprecedentedly-large industry to move forward here as well! Cheers. :^) --- * --->Why we exist on an imageboard, and not some other forum platform ( >>15638, >>31158 )

>>37033 You haven't really had much success with ib, the threads on 4chan get deleted because of spam, don't you think that it would be a lot better to get users from incels.is and loooksmax.org? most of the users there hate women and are racist like 4channers because they also have level 1 autism like them (this is the difference between reddit and 4chan). I'm just telling that it's a gold mine of users.

>>37034 >You haven't really had much success with ib I abandoned 4cuck posting a decade ago. Today the restrictions there are far-more laughable IMO, and it's clear that glowniggers & passholders are about the only ones who can have a consistent """conversation""". Don't get me wrong, I seriously applaud the Anons who 'fight the good fight' there and keep getting banned for all their troubles. The robowaifu threads there have played an important role IMO in the propaganda efforts for robowaifus. As I indicated above -- they have already succeeded at that effort! Robowaifuism is a thing now, and it's not going to go away by any amount of kike/libsh*te/roastie/simpoid reeeing. So good job, every'non -- glad we ourselves got to play our part in it!! :^) >don't you think that it would be a lot better to get users from incels.is and loooksmax.org I wouldn't say "better" necessarily, but as to them participating towards this common goal? Absolutely. <---> >I'm just telling that it's a gold mine of users. I believe it! Please get going on it, Anon. Honestly. But I only sh*tepost anonymously across Tor, and this is literally about the only bastion of free speech available to Anons to do so. You'll know where to find us, Anon. Cheers. :^)

>>37035 Don't you see how successful [redacted] is? if 4chan is over how are you gonna get users for this ib? The Subafrican owner of incels.is and looksmax.org makes loads of money each day just because he was able to take over the forums created by the user SergeantIncel, here is a video of him (the video is about other forum about suicides that he used to own): https://youtu.be/VPNM1_jKbbs?t=373 He even owns an incel wiki that is similar to robowaifu.tech: https://incels.wiki/w/Main_Page You could take over most of his community since most now hate the blackpill. >=== -rm hotlinks

>>37036 >Don't you see how successful [redacted] is? I do! That's why I'm asking you to take the reins with this one, Anon. :^) >The Subafrican owner of incels.is and looksmax.org makes loads of money Simply not a business model I'm interested in, and quite frankly it couldn't hold a candle to even a modestly-successful robowaifu industry venture in the future. I suggest that route instead for any Anons here rn (either as entrepreneurs themselves, or as R&D engineers & scientists there, or simply as general assembly staff, etc.) BTW, what's a 'Subafrican'? :D >You could take over most of his community Please send them here. >since most now hate the blackpill. This point is by far the best part of your posts, Anon! The fact that men the world over are breaking the (((conditioning))), and realizing that the current Western status-quo is not only not reasonable or necessary -- but is downright evil. This is surely one of the most important sociological breakthroughs of this era. >tl;dr Giving men hope & a future is literally why this "forum" exists here. Please help them all take the Whitepill, Anon. We all have our part to play, yeah? Cheers. :^) TWAGMI >=== -fmt, minor edit -rm hotlinks

>>37040 You didn't answer my question about how you are gonna get users for this place now.

>>37041 It's never been a topic I focused much upon (I'm hardly a salesman, lol). We as a group however, have a couple of propaganda threads on the topic (cf. >>36623, >>2705 ). Please do contribute in them.

>>37042 I don't do a forum because i'm busy with my anthropology research. What i suggest you should do is buy a [redacted] license [redacted], and put small censored sex doll or Ai gf ads to pay for the forum, then we get some users from 4chan and then we start an recruitment attack on incels.is and looksmax.org with that small army, then our numbers would grow exponentially. Here are the boards that i think the forum should have: 1-Robowaifu research board 2-Sex dolls and robotic sex dolls board 3-VR and AR Ai girlfriends board 4-Porn gaming board 5-Whitepill board 6-Gaming board 7-Off topic board >=== -rm rec

>>37045 >anthropology research. same, find out what happened during the bronze age collapse, theres literally nothing on it, im pretty confident from literature and language similarities centuries after the fact that the ruling and/or educated class just fucked off for some reason, one group going west and the other east (they abandoned the palaces as the other civs called it), leaving behind only the rural illiterate masses that couldnt even figure out how to make even copper tools, but theres no account of it really outside of the impossible similarities with the mycenaeans in places like rome and the indus valley centuries later and they shouldnt even know anything about them until the hellenistic period yet they have 'we wuz da og greeks' stories and they have their own similar stories that are basically just the illiad which turned out to have some historical basis and outside of the myth making was probably a real event, so maybe they were right and werent just obsessed with them for no reason trying to emulate everything they did, maybe they really were just another branch, or maybe not who knows

>>37047 Based on DNA tests Europe and the middle east used to be full of quadroons, the people that the natufians and yamnaya replaced didn't look like fully europeans. We can see a bit of their physical traits on celts, Icelanders, sicilians, sardinia and southwestern iberia, basically octoroons.

>>37048 >We can see a bit of their physical traits i dont see it they obviously had boats, any coastal cities along the mediterranean would have had contact with north africa by that time, north african traits are the same as just mediterranean, carthage egypt tyrrhenian etc are african but thats not the bantu africans of sub saharan africa that most people think of when you say african

>>37049 Eurasians have a maxillary depth angle of 90, far western europeans have one of 91.25, north africans have one of 92.5, centralsouth africans have one of 100. For example the Japanese have around 12.5% aboriginal DNA, the aboriginals were proto or paleo west eurasians.

>>37027 Thanks, Kiwi! >Learning about cosmetic surgery in school is finally paying off. :^) Heh. My interest in medical as well. Cheers.

/robowaifu/ Have you ever encountered a supernatural entity?

>>37053 Speaking personally, Sure! His name is Jesus Christ. As the Creator of all beings, He's number one!! :D Accept no substitutes!

>>37016 >high-viscosity gel or something for the booba I don't know if this would work but maybe perlite with vegetable oil. Perlite is cheap and would provide a viscous resistance to the oil. Add in a tablespoon of twenty mule team borax to prevent rot. Silicon woud be better but $$$$.

I very upset by the leading sentence on the site. "Advancing robotics to a point where anime catgrill meidos in tiny miniskirts are a reality." No mention at all of Foxgirls! A huge travesty! Foxgirls are far cuter than cat girls. https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2F04dd70vnrl041.png :)

>>37042 I don't like that you delete my mention of [redacted], you are not gonna lose money for mentioning them. Maybe this will make you change your mind; in this thread i explain that female hypergamy is growing exponentially and most people are also being born with level 1 autism now: https://neets.net/threads/the-behavioral-sink-on-humans-thread-version-1-1.39107/ I also have other thread where i explain why we will have android robots by 2032, but i think i already showed it to you in the past. >=== -rm recs

>>37061 >I don't like that you delete my mention of ---, --- and the cheaper ---, you are not gonna lose money for mentioning them. Lol. Always about the money with you, Anon. I assure you, no money is being made here. This is an amateur, anonymous, DIY "workshop" board -- we're all just here to brainstorm, share information, prognosticate, help & encourage one another while working on our robowaifu-oriented projects together. :^) Anyway, I'll gatekeep this board as I see fit; I'm generally quite upfront about it whenever I do. Same goes for Kiwi. I hope you can deal with that; its definitely nothing personal Anon, just looking out for the board's & Anon's interests here. <---> Regardless, thanks for your insights & encouragements. I hope you do well with your Anthro studies, and that you manage somehow to do something positive with that. Sure & certain that field is in need of a LARGE dose of good things! Cheers, Laroi. :^) >=== -prose edit

>>37060 >Foxgrils Pfft, you silly kitsunes...every'non knows wuffgrils a best! :DD <awooos over a fresh bushel basket of apples* >=== -minor edit

I'm not seeing some kind of thread suited to Robowaifu Motion Planning, or am I missing it? It seems to me this is a very-important topic, and one that is kind of general as well. That is, we need to plan the motions of: -the robowaifu herself (as a unified system), through say, Anon's flat -the robowaifu's arms & other (internal/onboard) skellington components, as she's going about her day-to-day tasks -other 'objects' in motion around the robowaifu (say, of Anon himself), for her predictive planning purposes. <---> What got me thinking about this need was trying to figure out where to post this link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D7vpR9WCtw Making Hard C++ Tests Easy: A Case Study From the Motion Planning Domain - Chip Hogg - CppCon 2024 >If you've ever struggled to write tests for domain-specific functions with complicated, real-world inputs, this talk is for you! We'll use the Motion Planning component in a self-driving stack as a case study (although you won't need any prior Motion Planning experience to follow the talk). In building objects for our test inputs, we faced the classic dilemma. If we make the objects simple, they're hardly meaningful, and the tests amount to little more than smoke tests. If we try constructing more realistic objects, it takes tremendous amounts of boilerplate code (which obscures what is actually being tested) --- and what's worse, these finicky construction methods go stale and break easily as implementation details evolve. >There is a better way! To find it, we take our inspiration from a (paraphrased) Kent Beck quote: "First, make the test easy. (Warning: this may be hard!) Then, write the easy test." What this means is investing in full-fledged testing support libraries. First, we build foundational domain-specific APIs: user-friendly paths, poses, and speed profiles. Then, we provide APIs that bridge the gap between what the user pictures in their head when they want to write a test (a "scene"), and the data structures that represent that situation in the software (a sequence of planner input messages on different channels). This "scene description" that the user writes is high level and doesn't depend on implementation details, so it resists going stale, as we'll illustrate with an example involving road construction zones. On the implementation side, the problem decomposes beautifully: each planner input (map, actors, etc.) can be constructed from the information in the scene description, independently of all other inputs, helped along by the paths and speed profiles. >These ideas could be implemented in many languages, but C++ particularly excels at delivering performance, robustness, and flexible, natural APIs. As an example, we'll explain the benefits of describing each planner input with a "smart" tag type, containing both the name and the message type. On the implementation side, variadic templates make it easy to conjure up containers and interfaces that operate on "all planner inputs", eliminating the risk of forgetting to update some callsite when we add a new one. On the interface side, end users see none of this complexity: they can simply use instances of these tag types as "indexes" into these containers in a natural way. This fluency and power makes more complicated test cases possible: it becomes easy to select and "tweak" any planner input to ensure we respond correctly when the messages are malformed, delayed, or absent. Overall, we hope our experience enabling high-quality Motion Planning testing at scale will have lessons that can be adapted to a variety of other domains. <---> I thought about using our systems engineering bread : ( >>98 ), b/c solving this certainly involves making a lot of different 'moving parts' work successfully together. I thought about our self-driving car bread : ( >>112 ), for obvious reasons. I briefly considered just using the C++ bread(s) for this, since it's definitely a 'real-time performance needs' set of engineering tasks. I also thought of our 'Newton's Dance' bread : ( >>7777 ). :^) Ideas? Am I missing something here Anons? >=== -minor edit