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Making money with AI and robowaifus Robowaifu Technician 11/30/2019 (Sat) 03:07:12 No.1642
The greatest challenge to building robowaifus is the sheer cost of building robots and training AI. We should start brainstorming ways we can leverage our abilities with AI to make money. Even training AI quickly requires expensive hardware and computer clusters. The faster we can increase our compute power, the more money we can make and the quicker we can be on our way to building our robowaifus. Art Generation Waifu Labs sells pillows and posters of the waifus it generates, although this has caused concern and criticism due to it sometimes generating copyrighted characters from not checking if generated characters match with training data. https://waifulabs.com/ Deepart.io provides neural style transfer services. Users can pay for expedited service and high resolution images. https://deepart.io/ PaintsChainer takes sketches and colours them automatically with some direction from the user, although it's not for profit it could be turned into a business with premium services. https://paintschainer.preferred.tech/index_en.html I work as an artist and have dabbled with training my own AIs that can take a sketch and generate many different thumbnails that I've used to finish paintings. I've also created an AI that can generate random original thumbnails from a training set. In the future when I have more compute power my goal is to create an AI that does the mundane finishing touches to my work which consumes over 80% of my time painting. Applying AI to art will have huge potential in entertainment and marketing for animation, games and virtual characters. Market Research The private-label product market is booming at the moment and is still expected to grow. AI could be used to analyze what is in supply and demand and automatically create popular products. It could read through millions of research papers and generate supplement formulations for specific health issues. Cryptocurrency Trading AI can be used to forecast prices via reading news articles, finding arbitrage opportunities by hopping through different markets, riding the spread of markets by simultaneously buying low and selling high to profit off the volume, and many other uses. I've had decent success with this but competition has become increasingly difficult to overcome with simple AI and small computing power. Cryptocurrency Escrows and Payment Services There's a huge untapped market for cryptocurrency escrows and payment services. People banned by Paypal without reason lack easy ways to safely transfer money online. Businesses wishing to sell adult content cannot do so through Paypal and other payment services, and payment services that do so charge extremely high credit card processing fees due to chargebacks. AI can be used in these services for detecting fraud and improving business reputation and marketing strategies. Fintech Fintech is an emerging industry that uses technology to improve activities in finance. A recent example of this in daily life is being able to take a photo of a check and deposit it via online banking using AI. Business Attractions Speecys is marketing its robots for business attraction and entertainment such as singers, dancers, attendants, working with musicians and plays, theme park mechanisms, character in movies, and mannequins. http://speecys.com/ Robowaifus could be used to greet guests or run a meido cafe once sufficiently advanced, like the automated restaurant in Beijing or Spyce. Interactive Virtual Assistants Obviously we don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to build a Speecys robot. However, a convincing virtual avatar with good speech synthesis and social skills could be put to use for customer support, helping customers find items in stores, and many other applications. Toys and Construction Kits Robotic toys, drones, RC cars and boats, UAVs, and robot construction kits are quite popular, easy to make and market. https://www.robotshop.com/en/robot-toys.html https://www.robotshop.com/en/robot-construction-kits.html >related thread: >>3119
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/14/2020 (Thu) 01:15:03.
>>8946 Thanks for the explanation about Icarus, I had forgotten about that. You know, zzzchan/v/ has an active AGDG thread going. Maybe you can bounce around your game ideas with them Anon? Good luck with it.
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How tall should mass-produced robot waifus be? It doesn't really matter if it were just a fleshlight, but to do basic household chores with regular human body proportions and bipedal movement, the smaller the body gets the harder it'll be to get it to do things like reaching shelves without help, but people are generally less intimidated by smaller, weaker, childlike robots. The primary demographic for them is probably going to be manlets since they have a harder time getting laid, and robot wives that tower over them is a niche demographic, but so are robots that resemble actual children or dwarves, which is a matter of body proportions. There's also the cost benefit of having a smaller, lighter robot. According to wikipedia an adult height under 4'10" is considered dwarfism. I would say somewhere between that and 5'5", but average male height in Japan is listed as 5'7" and average female height is 5'2", just shy of the shortest male height listed on Wikipedia. Japan seem like a target demographic too big to ignore, including their own manlets. From 4'10" and 5'2" is 5" which is a significant difference. Would it be best to just make them 5'0" or what?
>>13153 You just missed a board-conversation that touched on this very topic Anon. (>>13018, ...)
>>13159 Dang.
>>13159 On second thought, what I was posting was really meant to be more of a marketing question. Like, what height waifubot would appeal to the target audience the most? I saw "Market Research" in the OP and assumed that it'd be an appropriate question for this thread. By the sound of it a lot of us are either cheap or poor too, which makes sense since spending money on real women seem like a bigger waste of money than trying to build a woman.
>>13179 Simple answer: No standard type. No real mass production. Or if they are mass produced, or parts are, it's only about steps, not one size. So the question is only which size of steps: 5 cm? 10 cm? 15 cm?
>>13184 According to the Square-Cube ratio, every fixed increment of 1x size, with affect the system overall, on average, 1.5x , with added mass, difficulty in engineering, cost, etc. From a production complexity perspective, smaller is generally always better. This is one of the reasons why toy manufacturers have a much easier time of it than real-world manufacturers do, even when they have similar design paradigms between them.
>>13198 Your autistic fetish wasn't the topic here. Smaller isn't always better, let alone for fitting in more functions. There are other factors than mass. People will need to be able to select what they want.
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>>13184 >Simple answer: No standard type. No real mass production. But why? I'm not talking about one specific detailed model that everyone would buy, I'm thinking more along the lines of a template that would be easy to customize the appearance of, but the size and proportions of something is literally the hardest part of that. Even if it were sold as separate parts like some build-a-waifu kit, there's an issue of compatibility once things have different proportions. I had a really long-winded explanation, but more simply speaking, if the skeleton of a robot were like pipes, changing the length of a pipe is one thing, but if you try to swap-out for a pipe of a different thicknesses then you end up complicating it a lot. When you have significant differences in height, you necessitate significant differences in thickness, otherwise you end up with things like weirdly big or small heads and hands, or parts that just don't align right. It's easier to make a wide variety of face parts that can be mixed and matched to make a custom face, if the head is a single standard size. The more custom parts need to be made, the more expensive everything gets.
>>13234 >sold as separate parts like some build-a-waifu kit That's actually very fundamental to the goals here on /robowaifu/ and always has been. Therefore I consider your point about standardized connectors & interfaces, etc., to be a very important one Anon.
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When we sell robowaifu kits, we will need a normie friendly name. I think "Autodoll", "Meidocom", and "Maidcom" are all good ideas.
on topic of crypto currency, singularitynet might be a good platform to earn from distributing artificial intelligence (which could include waifu ai). this project is backed by goertzel who is huge in the world of agi link to learn more: https://publisher.singularitynet.io/
crosslink to a discussion in meta: >>19623
Interview with the creator of Neuro-Sama, the AI Vtuber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy-9Of46w4A - According to him, her system is made out of two models, one for gaming and one for chatting, with limited information sharing between them. But this will be improved upon. - She got banned for a while at least - He didn't make any money so far I just wanted to point out, that replacing Vtubers might be easier than one might think, at least for anons which already know how to use some AI models and finetune them. But then again, the platforms are fast with banning if something goes against the rules. Related; >>19912
>>20154 I had such thoughts before, but consider a few things: - It means going public with your identity - If you are a pro in tech this might be harming your career, if you don't have such a career then people might not trust you being capable - It's a matter of shipping and logistics - There might be legal issues and risks - This and other things lead to upfront costs - Not sure if Kickstarter allows sextoys and especially dolls
>>23643 You can't "patent" a certain build anyways. A very unique character might be under copyright, but even in that case there would still be copycats. Your whole business model is flawed, everyone told you that by now in various ways. Make a local or early business, have a competitive edge over others, especially in your area. Maybe build on a name and reputation for animated dolls if you want to ship them globally. Be better than companies which don't care about their customers. You could also have knowledge about tools and processes they don't have. Just don't think so much about patenting things and keeping people out later. This won't work and we here don't want this anyways. Also, it's unattractive for customers if no one else than you could make replacement parts. You could also work on Open Source and use your skills for making some money. Some here might or could've gone into AI illustrations very early, for example. Related: Early business ideas >>3119 Robowaifu market >>18572 Thot in the Shell >>9709 Licenses >>4451
>>23682 Even if the machine parts that make up the robot are not novel the robot itself is novel and I think it can be patented.
I mean, it's kinda obvious. Anyways: Fireship - AI influencers are getting filthy rich... let's build one https://youtu.be/ky5ZB-mqZKM https://github.com/lllyasviel/Fooocus
>>26713 Lol that report. That does look like a great tool NoidoDev, thanks for the links!
step 1.make the waifu step 2.shove a dildo on her a mouth and she closes her mouth a makes sucking sounds step 3.??? step 4.profit!
>>28035 oh sorry meant eyes not mouth. Closes her eyes lol.
>>28035 Please restrain lewdness overdrive here to the vagoo thread Anon. We're a SFW engineering & design R&D board, not /b/. Kthx.
Guys i want you to step back and think for a second about this thing being open source. First. The fact that is open source means nobody is taking it seriously. They have business to attend to and robo waifu is for the most part cooler talk. Second. Look at the reprap. 99.9% of people doing 3d printing are not using a reprap. They're using derivatives of the reprap that makerbot profited on and then other people improved upon. I have no reason to believe robo waifu wouldn't be the same. Third. It is possible to sell this thing if we put our minds into it. I think this warrants a discussion...
>>28296 100% we should go closed-source on anything worthwhile and hide behind the following options. 1. Corporation.(good members are recruited as contractors and eventually shareholders.) 2. Religious organization. 3. secret society. (freemasons, illuminate, but for robo-poon?) The big problem is leakers and people just looking to get their hands on assets. But in reality this poster is correct about the single biggest glaring issue to a project like this. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/free_rider_problem.asp This is economically related but since you are creating valuable content the same is true.
>>28296 Well, at least it's in the right thread. That said, I think most of us already told you their view and arguments, maybe even more than once. I personally want this to be quite exactly like the 3D printing business, but with even fewer important patents, which are only running out soon or did recently. This whole space blew up because of the open source. DIY, hackers and tinkerers constant developing something, plus kits from countries with low wages and shipping costs, and some companies with more polished products. Then again, I think there will be differences, for example I think companies will have it much harder for legal, social and privacy reasons. >free_rider_problem The guys working on this learn how to build their own, and learn skills which can be used commercially. The real business opportunities are in finding some niches or temporary areas of profit close to the development of robowaifus e.g. "AI influencers", generally content production, using AI for other things, ...
>>28306 Yeah the free-rider problem is a real issue. Making open source/file downloads might be easier, then you have to deal with people stealing/using plans and claiming it as their own (eg I own a "Sovol" brand printer that uses a creality board). I attended a business lecture series a while ago, and it was explained that ofttimes this can be mitigated by just putting copyright notice on it: you don't actually have to file a copyright, you can just put a notice on to intimidate. Or as it was colloquially put "pretend to be an 800lb legal gorilla". If you have record of your copyright being in trade (eg someone purchasing your product) before the violator has, that is legal grounds for legal action. But again that would require money upfront for legal fees, and/or the promise of a big fat payout in the end. Can't do much against random anons being a jerk but most folks get intimidated by big walls of legalese anyway. This guy https://www.youbionic.com/newallrobots was selling plans/assembly instructions of his 2 ft robot for $5000. Oh excuse me they were on sale for $250. They're no longer available but I remember being struck by his audacity when I saw it. Selling pre-assembled waifus is more effort, but more folks are likely to buy because they don't have to build it and thenn you just gotta worry about maintenance or reverse-engineering (which most anons don't/cant do).
>>28304 So for those that one to work on the private parts pun intended. We should get on a private discord or something and then once its presentable it put it up on kickstarter.
Guys id like to let you know i made a shit token once and made some money from that. I did do sone stuff for it like being able to buy it with paypal(although that got canceled lol) now if obamasonichu10inu can he sold and funded. A robowaifu can be sold and funded.
>>28314 >Yeah the free-rider problem is a real issue. My argument was, that it isn't. >https://www.youbionic.com/newallrobots Oh, wow, I never saw this one anywhere!
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>>28338 >My argument was, that it isn't. Oops! :) But I have seen folks stealing free .stls and claiming them as their own. Which is not nice. >Oh, wow, I never saw this one anywhere! The hand is available for free at https://github.com/Youbionic-com/Youbionic/tree/master but you could also just pick up a prefab hand off amazon for $100 each if you're feeling lazy.
>>28341 Thanks, I think the project looks fascinating as a showcase. But it's not what I want.
We can't go into detail of how to make male equivalents of robowaifus or AI girlfriends for women, but I think it's good to mention that making money of lonely women might be something that can be used with the skills of somebody developing some AI elements for robowaifus: https://restofworld.org/2023/boyfriend-chatbot-ai-voiced-shutdown/
Not looking good for Startup Bros: https://youtu.be/1ecu0YsCGxg
>>29906 Rich people protect their assets by creating an LLC or other some such separate legal/financial entity to hold their assets, whereupon they then "rent" their assets from that company. In this manner, even if someone sues you personally, you still have your house, car, etc because it is owned by a separate legal entity. A simple example would be Elon Musk eating at his own company's cafeteria. Sounds like an excellent workaround would be to make 2 companies: your main company does the marketing stuff, which then contracts R&D from your second company.
Are there any CAD Designers or Mechanical Engineers in this catalog who are seeking employment? I have a legitimate job opportunity for you. You must know Onshape though.
>>32274 Chobitsu, is there a more appropriate thread to ask this question in?
>>32276 Hmm. We already have a couple of business-oriented threads here. OTOH, I know some Anons would like the opportunity to earn money/experience professionally in robowaifu-oriented work already. OTOOH, as any oldfag can tell you, you shouldn't trust anything on teh Internets! :D Actually, I think I'm going to pin this thread for a while in hopes the community here will speak up on the basic idea of a 'Robowaifu Jobs Board' thread. After all, many of us want to start our own businesses eventually. I myself plan to do so, and would want to work with Anons I already know from here on /robowaifu/ once that's feasible. >tl;dr Ideas, /robowaifu/ ? How should we coordinate working professionally together? Cheers, Anons. :^) --- note: for OP, if we decide to leave this thread up, be prepared for Kiwi and I to edit your OP's text to generalize the future context for the thread moving forward. Your OP pic would remain in that case. >=== -add 'note' msg -fmt, minor edit
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Why would you look in particular for somebody on this board?
>>32277 >OTOOH, as any oldfag can tell you, you shouldn't trust anything on teh Internets! :D This is for the company called "Realbotix" (realdoll, Abyss creations) https://www.realbotix.ai/ >>32286 >Why would you look in particular for somebody on this board? Great Question. Ive posted here before and you could say that im looking out for my fellow robowaifu anons. You guys get first dibs. The most important factor that a robowaifu anon could bring to the table is their mindset and vision about the sexbot endeavor we hold dearly that clearly shows through the various threads that populate this catalog, let alone the creation of this website to begin with. We need someone who is comfortable (preferably passionate) about the subject matter of Adult entertainment which I believe is abundant here.
Anyone interested?
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>>32306 >>32289 Looking through the pages about the executive commitee and the board of directors, I'm seeing a whole lot of entrepeneurs with varying levels of experience in the finance sector, but not much else. There's also a whole bunch of references to the metaverse, crypto, and some for NFTs (read: volatile and unpredictable markets). While I'm sure the people running things are experienced enough to make money off of that, it raises ideological concerns, and this is a very ideologically driven community. Is there really any long-term thinking coming from the top brass regarding the dissemination and viability of waifubots, or is it just another step to corporate-controlled AI? While my perspective may be a bit jaded, it's looking more like the latter than the former. That was just the first impressions, though. A basic lookover of the website. Regarding the content: while I haven't taken the time to watch any of the videos (they just looked like standard corporate meme-fests, based on the thumbnails and titles), I have thoroughly scanned the investor presentation and looked through the "news" portion. Again: there's no long-term strategy for waifubots. While there were references to the medical sector, which is good, there weren't any real details regarding disseminating that technology to the point of widespread adoption even in that setting. The healthcare sector is very profitable, but only if you know how to navigate the extremely complex system it's built around. As far as waifubots are concerned, their main strategy seems to just be "make them more realistic", and not much else. While I can understand that they don't exactly know how a brand-new market is going to evolve, and I understand that one needs to confidently speak nonsense to navigate the corporate world, it still doesn't inspire much confidence. There's also the consideration of price. The investor presentation says that the cost ranges from $25k to $200k. This matters because they're missing the mark on the real billion-dollar idea: selling cost-effective waifus to working-class young jaded men. I think I speak for most everyone in this demographic when I say that I'd much rather put money like that to making a down-payment on a house than giving it to some randos in silicon valley for a product which uses trade-secret technology that may very well be defunct in a few years. If said waifu was only a couple thousand dollars, though? Sign me the fuck up. This all wraps back to the ideological motivations of the people on this board. While we don't all entirely agree on which politcal or economical system is the best, and we don't all share the same religion, we all agree that every man should be able to have a waifu, and that a healthy waifu market needs cost-effective waifus with industry-standard parts. Furthermore, that said waifus must be untethered from the corporate elite. Or in other words: from each man according to his ability, to each man a waifu to fulfill his needs. The TL;DR: Based on what I've seen, I'm not getting good vibes from that company. I don't want to spit on your goodwill, anon. I'm sure you mean well, but the leadership concerns me.
>>32308 >and this is a very ideologically driven community. This >This matters because they're missing the mark on the real billion-dollar idea: selling cost-effective waifus to working-class young jaded men. THIS >If said waifu was only a couple thousand dollars, though? Sign me the fuck up. THIS >Furthermore, that said waifus must be untethered from the corporate elite. THIS
>>32306 Thanks for your interest, but I think we aren't that many here (who knows). Those who have some skills, want to work on free hardware and software designs. Also, I never saw anyone here using Onshape.
>>32308 Don't forget the 60% profit margin: so the $25k starting model has production cost of $15k, and given there are 3d printed parts I think that is inflated (need to include costs for massive facilities and all the staff). The most successful startups are lean, because when you can't solve the problem by throwing money at it you actually have to come up with a solution to solve the problem.
>>32308 > I understand that one needs to confidently speak nonsense to navigate the corporate world, it still doesn't inspire much confidence. Covertly speak nonsense to navigate the corporate world anon... We knew this. This is why we are simply providing "robots". Lets just say that no one wants to invest in a waifu based/themed company. However, if the person whose interested in purchasing a robot wants to then make it a "sexbot", then we will fulfill that command. Catch my drift?...
>update: OP, I'm going to go ahead an unpin/lock this thread. If I were to judge the lackluster response to your offer, I'd say that we're not really a 'sexbot' community here. It's an Anon thing, and money-making isn't a high priority here. But I want to allow you a little time to hopefully see this message before merging it into one one of our business-oriented threads before long.
>>32274 If you just want to break into the booming robotics field Anon, then why not do something like this for now instead? https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/jul/20/robot-weedkillers-pesticides Many's the time I've thought of all the other duties that robowaifus could perform (perimeter surveillance, grounds keeping, gardening, home repair, etc., etc.) But the simple fact is that devising sci-fi grade robowaifus is arguably the single most-complex human endeavor ever undertaken in history. Period. So, using purpose-built droids for such work will be much easier to design and optimize for (in costs, materials, power, etc.) than general-purpose humanoid robots ever will be. >tl;dr Do the simple things first, bro! Cheers. :^) >=== -sp, minor edit
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>>32289 >realbotix Do you guys have a viable product? Last I heard of Harmony X was in 2018. After that, I've never even seen a working model. The Harmony Brick DOllbanger has was very crude. Haven't you guys made any improvements in the pproduct since then? Is Harmony X still just a talking head?
>>32363 To an outsider it appears there is a desire for just sexbots, but a closer examination (perhaps even calling it a "deep dive") that doesn't seem particularly true: Somewhere in chobits hideki says something like: "I don't wanna clang Chi because I want to love the robot, I love the robot so I want to clang." A "waifu" is typically an emotional connection first and foremost, and the clanging is the ultimate expression of the deep emotional connection. There's lots of lonely anons out there who desire companionship first (we can see this in the plethora of greentexts about anons being friend zoned), wishing for the ultimate expression of their companionship to be intercourse. Any company (or maker) failing to take this into account will (likely) be stuck with mediocrity.
>>32387 Yes. Since men all desire just one thing, and it's disgusting >insert picture of mountain cabin in the woods, loving wife, happy family, etc..., and the Globohomo have effectively robbed the average man of such simple pleasures (by rotting """modern""" women's minds with their satanic lies, according to their father's will in the matter), then he'll seek satisfaction elsewhere. For Anon, this largely entails creating robowaifus + turning away from 3DPD. It's a much, much deeper topic than even this entire board could cover, but those are a couple of the highlights. >Any company (or maker) failing to take this into account will (likely) be stuck with mediocrity. This. >"If you build the waifus, Anons will come." :^)

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