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Making money with AI and robowaifus Robowaifu Technician 11/30/2019 (Sat) 03:07:12 No.1642
The greatest challenge to building robowaifus is the sheer cost of building robots and training AI. We should start brainstorming ways we can leverage our abilities with AI to make money. Even training AI quickly requires expensive hardware and computer clusters. The faster we can increase our compute power, the more money we can make and the quicker we can be on our way to building our robowaifus. Art Generation Waifu Labs sells pillows and posters of the waifus it generates, although this has caused concern and criticism due to it sometimes generating copyrighted characters from not checking if generated characters match with training data. https://waifulabs.com/ Deepart.io provides neural style transfer services. Users can pay for expedited service and high resolution images. https://deepart.io/ PaintsChainer takes sketches and colours them automatically with some direction from the user, although it's not for profit it could be turned into a business with premium services. https://paintschainer.preferred.tech/index_en.html I work as an artist and have dabbled with training my own AIs that can take a sketch and generate many different thumbnails that I've used to finish paintings. I've also created an AI that can generate random original thumbnails from a training set. In the future when I have more compute power my goal is to create an AI that does the mundane finishing touches to my work which consumes over 80% of my time painting. Applying AI to art will have huge potential in entertainment and marketing for animation, games and virtual characters. Market Research The private-label product market is booming at the moment and is still expected to grow. AI could be used to analyze what is in supply and demand and automatically create popular products. It could read through millions of research papers and generate supplement formulations for specific health issues. Cryptocurrency Trading AI can be used to forecast prices via reading news articles, finding arbitrage opportunities by hopping through different markets, riding the spread of markets by simultaneously buying low and selling high to profit off the volume, and many other uses. I've had decent success with this but competition has become increasingly difficult to overcome with simple AI and small computing power. Cryptocurrency Escrows and Payment Services There's a huge untapped market for cryptocurrency escrows and payment services. People banned by Paypal without reason lack easy ways to safely transfer money online. Businesses wishing to sell adult content cannot do so through Paypal and other payment services, and payment services that do so charge extremely high credit card processing fees due to chargebacks. AI can be used in these services for detecting fraud and improving business reputation and marketing strategies. Fintech Fintech is an emerging industry that uses technology to improve activities in finance. A recent example of this in daily life is being able to take a photo of a check and deposit it via online banking using AI. Business Attractions Speecys is marketing its robots for business attraction and entertainment such as singers, dancers, attendants, working with musicians and plays, theme park mechanisms, character in movies, and mannequins. http://speecys.com/ Robowaifus could be used to greet guests or run a meido cafe once sufficiently advanced, like the automated restaurant in Beijing or Spyce. Interactive Virtual Assistants Obviously we don't have hundreds of thousands of dollars to build a Speecys robot. However, a convincing virtual avatar with good speech synthesis and social skills could be put to use for customer support, helping customers find items in stores, and many other applications. Toys and Construction Kits Robotic toys, drones, RC cars and boats, UAVs, and robot construction kits are quite popular, easy to make and market. https://www.robotshop.com/en/robot-toys.html https://www.robotshop.com/en/robot-construction-kits.html >related thread: >>3119
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>>32289 >realbotix Do you guys have a viable product? Last I heard of Harmony X was in 2018. After that, I've never even seen a working model. The Harmony Brick DOllbanger has was very crude. Haven't you guys made any improvements in the pproduct since then? Is Harmony X still just a talking head?
>>32363 To an outsider it appears there is a desire for just sexbots, but a closer examination (perhaps even calling it a "deep dive") that doesn't seem particularly true: Somewhere in chobits hideki says something like: "I don't wanna clang Chi because I want to love the robot, I love the robot so I want to clang." A "waifu" is typically an emotional connection first and foremost, and the clanging is the ultimate expression of the deep emotional connection. There's lots of lonely anons out there who desire companionship first (we can see this in the plethora of greentexts about anons being friend zoned), wishing for the ultimate expression of their companionship to be intercourse. Any company (or maker) failing to take this into account will (likely) be stuck with mediocrity.
>>32387 Yes. Since men all desire just one thing, and it's disgusting >insert picture of mountain cabin in the woods, loving wife, happy family, etc..., and the Globohomo have effectively robbed the average man of such simple pleasures (by rotting """modern""" women's minds with their satanic lies, according to their father's will in the matter), then he'll seek satisfaction elsewhere. For Anon, this largely entails creating robowaifus + turning away from 3DPD. It's a much, much deeper topic than even this entire board could cover, but those are a couple of the highlights. >Any company (or maker) failing to take this into account will (likely) be stuck with mediocrity. This. >"If you build the waifus, Anons will come." :^)
This is a good question. Nobody wants to fund the robowaifus. Maybe even if it was finished for ideological reasons.
>>32289 >>32306 >>32341 If you are still around, I am someone with the skills and curiosity. I'm an embedded systems engineer who now works in crypto for a day job. However, I saw through the marketing terms and got a similar impression to >>32308 . Your site is tailored for magazine blurbs and is not giving much information for enthusiasts. I dipped into your Robots external link and it is a quickly made wordpress site. I don't mean this rudely, but your robots seem to be mechanical busts of substandard sex dolls. In another community, dedicated to love dolls, we recognize that Taiwanese factories are producing better sculpts than what you have there. On the technical side, are you using a fully custom OS? How locked down is it? Do you have more details besides "robust processor"? Perhaps your presentation is just out-dated. If so, it needs to shift to a more technical focus to attract the people who want to make waifus.
id like to hear some reasons on what the advantage of making the maidbot opensource are. i say maidbot because apparently sex bot is off limits around here. if its to be made opensource it should be gpl if its to be made for profit itd be however much harder. i dont see selling individual unlicensed kits as viable. even with the gpl only the us might respect that license and might.
>>33970 heres something else i thought of. why do we consider making a maidbot more doable than making an indistrual machine? say we wanted make a machine that makes 3d filaments or making springs or paper clips? a welding bot too but for some reason i can see myself selling paperclips, 3d filament or springs. i cant see myself selling welding bots...
making a waifubot is not immediately profitable. it cost money and be better off to be done with a paid team. im thinking of shifting focus towards making a videogame i think. Once the money is made then the robot waifu can be made properly.
>>35268 Yeah, it's kind of a 'Chicken & Egg' problem at this stage of history, peteblank. >just like, mek gaem Neat! Good luck with your project, Anon! I hope you'll keep us here up to date on it, given our board context/rules/etc. Cheers. :^)
>>35268 Is making a robot wife about profit?
>>35276 A robot wife was never possible. Only a robot sex doll that can kind of move. robot wife is version 3 and even then i wouldnt encourage it but thats just me.
>>35277 >A robot wife was never possible. (((Sweeping))) generalization. I've warned you about niggerpilling here before, peteblank. Find another spot to attempt dumping your angst on others, kthx. <---> If you can't find the encouragement you need here on /robowaifu/ of all places to continue on your quest, then maybe you should take a breather from all this for a while, Anon? We'll still be here when you get back. Cheers. :^)
>>35278 Pete don't even know what a "waifu" is but thinks he an expert lmao.
>>35277 >>making a waifubot is not immediately profitable >A robot wife was never possible I wouldn't be so sure. I've been steadily gathering tools and materials and scoping out the cost to do so. Heavily focused on low cost and I think it VERY possible to make one for $3,000. Maybe possible for $2,000. I would say the only unknown is the AI. I think, though I really can't prove it, that a limited AI with say 16b, whatever that means, like PC level compute "might" be able to to do a fairly good amount of stuff. Like tell it to go here, go there. With a big terabyte SSD and swapping out task I think it likely it could follow you around and do some stuff you want. I don't know how to do this. To put it together. But I do know a ESP32 microcontroller can do face recognition. I know a PC can do voice recognition and I do not find it impossible that with voice recognition you could not get it to follow commands. I don't think the movement/coordination part would require much compute. I bet a couple ESP32 level would be enough for it to navigate. The real crunch, a black hole for me, is can it with a limited AI take commands and turn that into actions that are not retarded? I don't know about that. It seems like a lot of the pieces are present but they are just not put together. One of the problems is all these AI's are trained on these huge vast data sets but what we need is far smaller, but these data sets do not exist in an ordered fashion, nor has anyone trained an AI with them. No focus. Someone wrote about "control vectors" which, if I understand correctly, makes neural pathways in the AI that conforms to your wishes. I think if you could write a program that writes these for you, with verbal command, then you could slowly train the robowaifu with a huge mass of control vectors.
>>35288 peteblank has come a long way since joining us here. I wish him & every'non here good luck with their efforts! We're all in this together. >>35296 Not only is it possible, but we here will all live to see it begin to come alive! It's simply a matter of time.
> ( business-related : >>35349, >>35351 ) >=== -add'l crosslink
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> ( business-related : >>35424, ... )
>>35296 the ai is mostly important as far as object recognition. The movements still have to be algorithms because there is no data on robot movements other than the roomba and lidar i think. Another thing that could be done is mocap and train the robot to move with the mocap movements. Usually youd use those ping pong ball suits but mocap can be done with a camera too. So yes coding the mocap to movemrnt pipeline. Theres the blank slate robot idea but thats is far out there. Happy 2025 everyone. Celebrating my 100th OS reinstall...
>>35433 well theres also the reinforced learning via simulation. it all goes back to the simulation. i think you can use nvidia isaac with open ai gym but im not sure. awfully quiet around here...
>>35433 Happy New Year, peteblank.
>>35434 good news everyone i just came across this https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/isaac-gr00t-blueprint-humanoid-robotics/ if there us to be collaboration i strongly urge everyone to download nvidia issac and start learning about it... now
Plenty of ways to make money. Anyone know of a place to buy the Emmy the Robot outfit? I really don't want to have to learn to sew too, but I will if I have to. Already know the basics lol
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>>35463 Was joking sorta but here's an Emmy outfit. As you can see, they never quite fit. Roboclothes could become a niche product since even the Kardashians are trying to capitalize probably. Plenty of other options though. I'd charge $100/hr for her if you clean up, and $200 if I have to clean. Cleaning is just moving to cleaning table, insert cleaning wand and turn on. Easy money.
> (AI money-making opportunity -related : >>36470 )
>>38101 >Like a robowaifu themed fraternity. >>38102 >easier said than done. >>38104 >This could be done in any city or town where the cost of housing is cheap enough. >>38105 >a live-in robowaifu development center will be really great to boost research. Nice concept; very, very difficult to pull off in the real world w/o some sort of grand patronage occurring. The clear exception being a realworld business providing housing facilities, and a coordinated 'community' of sorts within it's robowaifu business' purview. I've personally seen this exact sort of scenario working itself out in the realworld within the film industry. I'm sure it's also been done in many, many other fields through the ages. It can certainly work out successfully as well for us here within this brand new industry of robowaifu robotics! >tl;dr This almost certainly won't happen spontaneously (outside of a small scale -- say a college dorm or small house), but will rather only come about to any significant degree through the directed, intentional efforts of men with the money to make it happen. And the benefits will be manifold for robowaifu progress if it's done well, that's certain -- as you indicated. Even just taking the 'ramen profitability' approach of Paul Graham, et al, and providing two-way travel costs + basic living facilities for 3 months for interns (+ a modest stipend) to work & live together would be productive to at least some degree for everyone involved (some interview-like vetting beforehand is necessary). Here's hoping at least a few of us here get our robowaifu businesses successfully off the ground!! Cheers, Anons. :^)
>>38463 >So, how do we go about promoting & distributing the robowaifus that are already here? My mental canon involves a self-supporting business doing that (for-profit sales [fully-assembled or kits], freely-distributed designs, software, & kit-assembly support). Since that business isn't here yet, how can we achieve something similar without it? I think the "freely-distributed designs, software, & kit-assembly support" is the best way forward. It's much easier to set up and requires no Overhead*. >>38466 >I think Galatea could be sold on Etsy or where ever as is. Hope to see you guys sell kits. Maybe just a marketplace thread with links to different projects. That's an interesting idea. Maybe just the 3D printed parts.
>>38471 >I think the "freely-distributed designs, software, & kit-assembly support" is the best way forward. It's much easier to set up and requires no Overhead*. Yeah, I was thinking something roughly similar, GreerTech. A) "Distribution" costs of 'soft products' is essentially zero dollars and zero cents. B) We are already 'established' as it were, here on /robowaifu/ and other places on both the Internets, and the normalfag honeypots. C) We can set up new locations on both at the drop of a hat, maintain archives, and 'stay mobile' with our interests (insofar as these soft products are concerned). <---> >Maybe just the 3D printed parts. You're touching on an important point. Some things are basically too difficult for the average hobbyist's skill level (cf. Steve Jobs discussing h/w hobbyists vs. s/w hobbyists during his interview in Triump of the Nerds). I think a good business model is providing both full fledged every-part-needed-and-then-some-is-included-in-the-box(es), vs. here's your hard-to-do bits, bro. The latter would be much cheaper, and would simply link to sources for other components such as COTS SBCs, MCUs, actuators, sensors, &tc. Make sense, Anon?
>>38466 >...I just fear they would also look like my tribal members What's wrong with that, Barf? If that's what the market demands then fulfill that. And in essence my earlier point about the Wright Brothers was just that point. Up till then there were no powered flying machines (so most who even dreamed of it probably only thought about 'strapping on wings' or somesuch). But once the realworld met the ideals, and a 'wire&wooden-strut&fabric&low-spec-gas-motor&wooden-props', actually-works flying machine hit the scene -- then BAM!! new ideas for realworld, practical design variations began flowing like gushing rivers all over the world! Markets that never existed before suddenly popped into existence with the appearance of all these new flying wonders. And "the rest is history", as they say. Less than 70years later, based men sat foot on the Moon. And its pretty much the same for us Anons here-and-now, today (but much more profoundly, IMO): the coming Robowaifu Age is inevitable. We were born in such a time as this to not only witness it's genesis, but to help spring it forth!! :^) >tl;dr <"Fake it until you make it, bro." <---> And insofar as your pitch to your people Anon -- remind them that this is literally going to turn into a trillion-dollar-a-year industry once its fully up & running, Lord willing... and first-movers generally have the best shot at the big payout! Cheers, Barf. :^)
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>>38473 >What's wrong with that, Barf? If that's what the market demands then fulfill that. Oh, I'm just more of a national capitalist than socialist is all. Not a big deal. I don't think the market would demand mine much, so it wouldn't be profitable, and I wouldn't want to subsidize it. The Wright bros didn't need a handout. I guess NASA did, but now they can't even get off Earth. Also agree with the first-mover advantage and network effect, but they can also lose due to not adapting to market conditions. I guess this is the right place in a making money thread. So, just dreaming again, but I would love to see robowaifu become a curation place where people can advertise their models and sell in a marketplace, and then if one takes off, that person can create their robowaifu llc
>>38475 >So, just dreaming again, but I would love to see robowaifu become a curation place where people can advertise their models and sell in a marketplace, and then if one takes off, that person can create their robowaifu llc I like the way you're thinking, Anon! I wonder what it would take for some of us OGs to set up a funds-clearing system to help maintain everyone's privacy? I certainly don't trust any of the big names to handle payments for Anons to buy robowaifus (they'd be (((canceled & both parties' funds stolen))) in short-order, I'd expect). >tl;dr I think there's no way we could succeed for long, fiscally-operating anywhere within reach of the (((tentacles))) of the so-called 14-eyes nation's domains. Something "offshore"(similar to gambling sites), maybe? The BRICS nation's domains, perhaps?
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>>38484 >Something "offshore"(similar to gambling sites), maybe? The BRICS nation's domains, perhaps? Nothing is out of reach, so you always have to comply with local law. Can always try to find greener pastures or Sealand, but they can't reverse blockchain transactions. People will make patreons, take paypal or monero\zcash\btc depending on level of involvement. If I choose to build a robowaifu in a jurisdiction that allows them, I can take payments from anywhere in any method that's allowed. I can always take the funds with me if that nation is invaded or collapses. Maybe in gold, art, crypto or robowaifu parts depending on what I can transport. Which comes down to shipping robowaifus across state lines. That may be frowned upon.
>>38488 >so you always have to comply with (((local law))). FTFY, Mate. These kikes will (re)write their laws against you to suit their desire du jour. Simply by posting on this board, you're """committing""" LITERAL VIOLENCE AGAINST WOMEN, BRO Didn't you know that already!? :DD <---> >blockchains, et al Yeah, it'll probably come down to that, eventually. Make mine Monero, please. :^) <---> Great post, Barf. Plenty of good food for thought here. Cheers. :^)
>>38488 >If I choose to build a robowaifu in a jurisdiction that allows them, I can take payments from anywhere in any method that's allowed. Watch as waifu smuggling becomes the new hot new thing on the black market.
>>38503 >Watch as waifu smuggling becomes the new hot new thing on the black market. /thread. Bound to happen IMO, within restrictive locales.
>>38511 Robowaifus are going to be the next ghost guns
>>38541 You know, I think you may be right, GreerTech. I believe it's important for us to get well-established first in this arena; before the purplehairs, et al, begin screeching loudly enough for it to be heard in w*$$$hington. Doesn't mean they won't come after it (the home-grown robowaifu industries), but it will be much, much harder for them to squelch it completely if millions of plans/kits/robowaifus-themselves are already out there first. @Robowaifudev warned us all of this exact issue years ago. I think in large part how this all plays out is mostly in the hands of the baste Chinese. If they roll out robowaifus for the rest of the world, and they are literally raking in trillions of CNY per year, then they are unlikely to willingly relinquish that gold mine (and certainly not at the drop of a b*nker's hat). Interesting times ahead, lads. :^) Keep moving forward.
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/17/2025 (Sat) 05:25:58.
>>38545 You can bet yer bum if humanoid robots like unitree/optimus become actually available a la Amazon, folks will buy one and duct tape a sex toy to it. The precedent has already been set with vidyagames: most don't come with particularly lewd content, but there are unofficial communities that put the lewd in there cuz they wanna.
>>38567 I wouldn't bet against you on this, Mate! :D
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>>38484 >>38488 What we need is a stablecoin crypto to use. Bitcoin was supposed to be what we needed, an anonymous online transaction method beyond banks. But hustle grindset people got ahold of it, and now it's a rapidly fluctuating stock. It's hard to convince people to use it as money because the value is unstable and rapidly increases and decreases at the drop of a hat. When anime-adjacent businesses are threatened by banks and people say, "what should we do?", I want to just yell at the top of my lungs "CRYPTO, USE CRYPTO, THAT'S WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR!"
>>38576 Idea: ChiiCoin
>>38576 >>38577 I like the way you're thinking, Anon. >ChiiCoin Heh, why not!? :D <---> We'd still need some kind of exchange system to be created, so that Anons could use their normal everyday (((cards))) to purchase ChiiCoin 's, to use in the anonymous transactions. Same for the vendor on the other end of the transaction, AFAICT. The fact we're still stuck to a fiat currency printed out of thin air by the Globohomo-kikes is the rub. But your idea surely is a step in the right direction, GreerTech! Cheers. :^)
>>38578 >The fact we're still stuck to a fiat currency printed out of thin air by the Globohomo-kikes is the rub. I wouldn't mind if ChiiCoin was semi-analogous to the dollar. Trying to be a whole new currency to surpass the dollar is partially why bitcoin is the aforementioned mess. I don't envision ChiiCoin as way to surpass the dollar, but as a way to transfer the dollar, but on our own terms >We'd still need some kind of exchange system to be created, so that Anons could use their normal everyday (((cards))) to purchase ChiiCoin 's, to use in the anonymous transactions. Same for the vendor on the other end of the transaction, AFAICT. That's the million-dollar question. I wouldn't know how to do it, maybe something as low tech as checks by mail?
>>38578 >>38579 I do know that there are stablecoins like USDT that are fundamentally tied to the dollar and are traded on mainstream crypto platforms, maybe we (and others who struggle with payment processors) can use stablecoin transactions. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/stablecoin.asp >Refurbished Galatea: $300 USDT
>>38579 >>38580 Our own exchange gives us more control (at the least for some era of time; even that is likely to turn 'cat and mouse' eventually). We can pin it to the US Dollar or w/e other currency just as well as StableCoin does. If the GH-kikes manage to (((blackball))) it successfully, then we can create a SumomoCoin, or a YuzukiCoin or w/e as time goes on. It's all up to us to decide. I think we'd also probably need to devise some form of secured-trust institution to back it. [1] Perhaps a 'web of trust' [2] between known namefags here on /robowaifu/ or something similar? We certainly can't rely on the kiked-up Certificate """Authorities""" du jour in vogue r/n. <---> >>Refurbished Galatea: $300 USDT SHUT UP AND TAKE MY MONEY!!! :DD --- 1. After all, someone somewhere will have to deposit those checks, and to forward anonymised shipping of robowaifus/kits to Anon's shipping addresses. 2. An old idea devised amongst opensource & crypto (and I don't mean coins) players & others well before the current Current Year (((institutions))). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_of_trust https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/61360/what-is-the-web-of-trust https://sequoia-pgp.gitlab.io/sequoia-wot/
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/18/2025 (Sun) 11:12:39.
>>38582 The problem with our own exchange is that we will still need to exchange actual USD (or any other official currency) for SumonoCoin through digital means somehow, and the only way to do online transactions/transfers (afaik) is through """Payment Processors""" I feel like it might be easier to transfer an established crypto, which should be relatively stable currency. Otherwise, one year 100 MitaCoin will buy 1 Galatea, and the next 5 years, 1 MitaCoin will buy 100 Galateas (see the guy who bought two pizzas with 10,000 Bitcoin)
>>38583 >The problem with our own exchange is that we will still need to exchange actual USD (or any other official currency) for SumonoCoin through digital means somehow, and the only way to do online transactions/transfers (afaik) is through """Payment Processors""" Yes, you're right. Thus the primary reason I suggest a secured-trust institution. It becomes our own payment processor. * It has the weakness (just like all the rest of them) of relying on the kike's fiat system for exchange at the 2nd-level, but at least we'd still have other options under our control ("offshore", BRICS, etc.) that you wouldn't have with other (((payment processors))). --- As usual, I'm hoping that the baste Chinese will manage all this in our steads. Just like all the rest, I hardly care what Dr. Lee or Mr. Wong think about the fact Anons are all buying & selling robowaifus with one another. (That only becomes an issue for us collectively here in the kiked-up (((w*st))).) As long as the Changs don't actually touch our physical stuff **, then them clearing CryptoCoin payments for us is hardly an issue, AFAICT. And the primary benefit with the Chinese for us is them not 'cancelling' us b/c (((reasons))) -- as would almost-certainly eventually happen within the so-called 14-eyes' domains during Current Year. <---> >...(see the guy who bought two pizzas with 10,000 Bitcoin) That poor SOB. :/ --- * And of course it can accept our own digital coin (as well as (((credit/debit cards))), checks, cash, &tc.) ** I mean as either our manufactured kits or fully-assembled robowaifus. Obviously, they themselves will supply to us many of our constituent components (this being effectively inescapable).
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/18/2025 (Sun) 16:54:56.
>>38584 So basically a manual offshore version of the point system on manga buying websites?
>>38585 >So basically a manual offshore version of the point system on manga buying websites? LOL >>> BUY YOUR OWN ROBOWAIFU -- NOW WITH CHIICOIN !! <<< * < * "A manual, offshore version of the 'point system' used on manga-buying websites." <---> Heh yes probably something similar, Anon. (And in-effect: just like every other crypto exchange as well, BTW! :D The big difference being realworld robowaifus are being exchanged-for, rather than realworld mangos. And also: shipping out anonymously to Anons in our case (at least insofar as the buyers & sellers are concerned [eg; with anonymized-forwarding options, the sellers won't know the buyer's shipping addresses]). Cheers. :^)
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/18/2025 (Sun) 18:24:44.
>>38586 And discreet packaging!
>>38588 Yes, we could also offer parts-orders/repacking/packing-consolidation for buyers. This could help both buyers & sellers with improved anonymity, as well as better privacy for the buyers. Good thinking, GreerTech. :^)
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