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General Robotics/A.I./Software News, Commentary & /pol/ funposting grounds #3 NoidoDev ##eCt7e4 03/06/2023 (Mon) 18:57:17 No.21140
Anything in general related to the Robotics or A.I. industries, and any social or economic issues surrounding it (especially of robowaifus). === -note: This OP text might get an update at some point to improve things a bit. -previous threads: > #1 (>>404) > #2 (>>16732) >=== -edit subject
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 06/10/2023 (Sat) 14:52:11.
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A good and non-biased model is dropped : https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/Manticore-13B-GGML this quantization is still epoch 1 version (for current time 21:19AM 19.05.2023), but they will update it to epoch 3 or wait for upcoming epoch 4. What's the catch you may ask, look at pic,if they don't change this, then we can finally get a normal model without the shit that is everything related to modern """politics""" inside.
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Turns out r/PygmalionAI is controlled by very sensitive alphabetfags. One of them made a post about celebrating genderlessness, to which he subscribes. Also themed the whole sub based around his queer identity. Many pointing out that this has nothing to do with the topic and they don't want to be bothererd by it got banned. Myself included, for some snarky comment on the new rule that everything the mods don't like is now bigotry and therefore not allowed. Now the founder and dev of PygmalionAI disowned the subreddit publicly (The Discord has the same mods, btw). The sub is on turmoil, many make fun of the mods but don't get banned. It might be a good time for recruitment, but I'm not sure if redditors would switch to some imageboard. Sadly r/diysexdolls is also gone, the owner didn't want to keep it because how Reddit would get scraped by AI (I don't get it, he's still on YouTube). r/unstablediffusion (sexy AI illustrations) has been banned.
>>22659 The new sub name is r/Pygmalion_AI Stolen from the old one: Copy your Character AI >This feature removes the middleman https://zoltanai.github.io/character-editor/ but you can still upload this file on there to edit it as you wish. Previously, you had to download the entire history unnecessarily. >Next update will introduce Character Card download. Honestly, I don't know how to do it but shouldn't be that hard. Source codes and READ ME: https://www.github.com/irsat000/cai-tools Chrome store: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/cai-tools/nbhhncgkhacdaaccjbbadkpdiljedlje Firefox store: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cai-tools/
Just a very fast one: LLamA apparently works with AMD GPUs now (OpenCl). Just on case you consider buying a GPU right now, maybe take this into account: https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/comments/13p8zq2/update_opencl_is_merged_amd_gpus_now_work_with/ (process for AMD GPUs might go up soon, of course, but there's generally more competition now)
Not exactly current, but it was news to me. Maybe it will be to you too Anon. Yann LeCun [1] and Andrew Ng [2] spoke out actively opposed to the "6 month pause" letter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BY9KV8uCtj4 1. twitter.com/ylecun 2. twitter.com/AndrewYNg
Solid State Cooling - I didn't look into it yet, but it's already quite clear that it will be very useful. Quite likely also for robowaifus. https://youtu.be/YGxTnGEAx3E https://youtu.be/WibczqINifA https://youtu.be/HZFZoxxTpyA
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I have an rtx 3060 and a 1080ti I could combine them after I upgrade my motherboard to a x570 I could even set it up so you guys could use jupyter notebooks on it. I kind of really want to get a 4090 which is even more powerful than both combined but paying that much just feels so shit.. Would it be cool if I put a buy me some coffee button somewhere?
>>22730 Yes this would be very useful. I'd suggest you link these in our thermal control thread Anon. >>22736 Neat idea Anon. Good luck. >Would it be cool if I put a buy me some coffee button somewhere? Why wouldn't it be? You've gotta pay the light bill right? :^)
>>22736 Some people calculated on Reddit that using OpenAI's API is actually cheaper than running models at home. Your only need to run models at home to test them, or if you use very personal or private data. I'd also like to have a 4090 but I'm to frugal to spend such an amount frivolously. For interference you don't need this at all, most people using the FOSS models seem to have smaller cards. The 3090 and I think the P40 also have 24GB. Also, this is the news thread, not /meta/. >>22737 >suggest you link these in our thermal control thread Anon. Yes , I plan to do so. It would be generally a good idea to go through all the general threads and copy or link things into the specific threads
>>22740 >It would be generally a good idea to go through all the general threads and copy or link things into the specific threads Indeed it would be. But as you're aware that's a very tedious, error-prone proposition given the current state of Lynxchan software not providing that facility.
>>22750 It's some work while going through the threads, yes. I'm certainly not going to do it on a tablet, but with a PC and browser with different tabs it's okay.
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I a way, I hope he's right. But not in the way he means it heh. :^)
>>22754 >Bill Gates says the winner of the A.I. race will be whoever creates a personal assistant—and it’ll spell the end for Amazon >Billionaire philanthropist Gates added the developer destined to win the artificial intelligence race will be the one which manages to create a personal agent that can perform certain tasks to save users time. >“Whoever wins the personal agent, that’s the big thing, because you will never go to a search site again, you will never go to a productivity site, you’ll never go to Amazon again,” he explained. >This isn’t the first time that Gates has voiced his hypothesis about A.I. being used for personal agent duties. >In March, Gates theorized that services like large language models will be increasingly deployed as copilots to their human counterparts, or as he puts it: “like having a white-collar worker available to you.” >Exactly what that personal agent will do remains unclear—however, speaking on Monday during a Goldman Sachs and SV Angel event in San Francisco, Gates suggested A.I. copilots will “read the stuff you don’t have time to read” among other tasks. >The company to release such a model remains to be seen, with Gates expecting the winner to be a toss-up between an established player in Big Tech or a newcomer. >“I’d be disappointed if Microsoft didn’t come in there,” Gates said. “But I’m impressed with a couple of startups, including Inflection.” >Gates was referring to Inflection.AI—a company launched by DeepMind cofounder Mustafa Suleyman—which aims to “make personal A.I.s for every person in the world.” https://archive.fo/WqkMi
>>22774 Thanks Noidodev! :^) >just in case, like me, anon can't use archive.today sites: fortune.com/2023/05/23/bill-gates-artificial-intelligence-makes-amazon-search-engines-obsolete/ www.cnbc.com/2023/05/22/bill-gates-predicts-the-big-winner-in-ai-smart-assistants.html >"Meanwhile, blue-collar workers stand to be pushed out of the workforce by robotics, Gates mused, saying that robot humanoids of the future will be cheaper than their human counterparts." Heh, we here are going to drive them down into a 'cheaper' price domain, than anyone else can yet imagine! :^)
>>22775 Fun fact: Humans are only as expensive as high as their expectations and entitlements are. It's extremely hard to beat human labor in price.
>>22776 >It's extremely hard to beat human labor in price. Yet inevitably automation comes in as less expensive for big manufacturing interests. To wit: The Loom. But I do get your point Noidodev. However, I think we and our affiliated cadres are going to shock the world when word gets out how cheaply that Model A Robowaifus can be created and run. >=== -minor edit
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 05/27/2023 (Sat) 02:20:49.
>>22776 >>22784 The real major difference is the upfront cost. If I remember right, when Valve made their game controller they had it manufactured in the US, and the manufacturing cost was barely any different than doing it in China, but they used a highly automated system that had a much bigger upfront cost. But said that because the robot arms, or whatever it was they were using, were so general-purpose that Gabe said they'd probably never need to pay that upfront cost ever again.
My outlook on open source has been shattered since I found out that stable diffusion was made by a for profit company. Stability AI.
>>22842 Lol. Why should that affect your perception of opensauce fren -- especially to 'shatter' it? :^) stability.ai/about
>>22845 you've posted the same link. Good news btw. I think we'll get GPT 4 tier models on our phones by the end of 2025 at this rate.
>>22846 Thanks, deleted and reposted.
Speech to text and text to speech in more than 1000 languages by Meta. Also a lot more tools (Matt Wolfe): https://youtu.be/gJvRxLWoilw QLoRA / Guanco: 65B for one 48GB GPU, smaller ones can be fine tuned on 24GB GPUs. Only the beginning of bigger models needing less VRAM: https://youtu.be/66wc00ZnUgA Falcon 40B+7B: https://youtu.be/5M1ZpG2Zz90 and the same via Aipreteneur: https://youtu.be/WhrdJwEfWZE
Lol. >"Just trust me bro, its all real!" reason.com/volokh/2023/05/27/a-lawyers-filing-is-replete-with-citations-to-non-existent-cases-thanks-chatgpt/
OI! You gotta loicense for that robowaifu software mate? developers.slashdot.org/story/23/05/24/1838223/pypi-was-subpoenaed
The-Bloke has a discord now: https://discord.gg/8dERgVDp (valid for circa 6.5 days). He's making quantified models from bigger ones which run better on small GPUs, with some losses but still better than smaller models. News from Matt Wolfe, which I haven't watched yet myself: https://youtu.be/eXttLLdlzaI
>>22872 Thanks Noidodev!
>GPT 3 Takes Control: A new level of autonomy for Vector the robot (beyond chat) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpQUH2FTwak https://www.reddit.com/r/AnkiVector/comments/11abbv3/using_gpt3_to_control_vector/ >VectorGPT is a hybrid Chipper server and SDK client. >Audio input is received via the Chipper server and runs through a speech-to-text library. Once the speech has been transcribed, the server responds with a cloud intent, and as soon as Vector has received that response, the server assumes behaviour control of Vector via the SDK. >The transcribed text is then sent to the OpenAI API (while a "thinking" animation is being played on Vector), and the completion contains instructions on how Vector should respond. >There's some to-ing and throw-ing that potentially occurs between GPT and the robot at this point that's too complex to describe here, but eventually GPT will relinquish control, at which point the SDK client will trigger a knowledge graph question, which then causes a new connection back via Chipper and the whole process begins again. >Except now, we have a session on the go and the last request and response is appended to the prompt sent to OpenAI so the conversation can continue and flow naturally. >That's the (very) basic principle that makes VectorGPT possible, but as ever the devil is in the details. >It has been at least 8 months since I got this basic setup working, but developing that into what you see in my videos has taken all that time since, in my spare time.
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>Revolutionizing AI Efficiency: Meta AI’s New Approach, READ, Cuts Memory Consumption by 56% and GPU Use by 84%: https://www.marktechpost.com/2023/06/01/revolutionizing-ai-efficiency-meta-ais-new-approach-read-cuts-memory-consumption-by-56-and-gpu-use-by-84/ >QLoRA (different method) >Researchers have unveiled QLoRA, a novel and highly efficient 4-bit method for fine-tuning AI models that is able to run on single professional and consumer GPUs. This dramatic increase in efficiency opens up new pathways for AI development at low cost. https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/13r26k7/groundbreaking_qlora_method_enables_finetuning_an/
>>22888 >digits This sounds exciting Noidodev. It's almost like they are trying to converge around the low-end model we've been suggesting for years now. I hope they manage it!
>>21151 >>21153 This is the worst interpretation. We are here building actual robots, he is just some celebrity who hires people to do it and then takes the credit. They also take what's open source and slap their name on it to say they invented it. >>21156 >>22114 I'm disappointed. You are an influential person, you're part of leading a historically important robo movement. The people in the talk you linked to are two-faced, they laugh at their followers when they're not on the air. Anything the guy says about Microsoft is just drama to increase sales and attention, like how rappers create fake feuds to sell more albums. The problem is people fall for it, and you're an important enough person that you shouldn't fall for it too.
>>22933 Haha, ok chastisement received Anon. Carlson has certainly served as the voice against the general Globohomo movement, and this was his last important interview while in the place he held at Murdoch's place (though none of us realized it at the time ofc). And AFAICT Musk is pretty much unique. He certainly needs little help from me. I'm aware of some of his well-known foibles. It's clear that Tesla is bound to be the very first major corporation to create non-military, humanoid, robots. Of course this is a big deal. He's also clearly a funposter at heart, regardless of the post's legitimacy, and I think that's a great sign that he'll actually come around one day and 'give away the farm' in end. I admire the former (in one of the world's richest men especially), and I'm very hopeful for the latter. Regardless, even if I'm misguided after a fashion, it would be more misguided for /robowaifu/, et al, to ignore what he's saying/doing insofar as it relates to our direct concerns. The simple fact is, it was a very important discussion for /robowaifu/'s interests. On a personal level, I much more highly-honor the likes of Henry Ford, Nikola Tesla (also an 'opensauce' kind of guy BTW :^), Orville & Wilbur Wright, Daniel Boone, Lewis & Clark, Earnest Shackleton & Co., Alan Shepard, Niel Armstrong and also Buzz Aldrin too lol, Leo da Vinci, Galileo Galilei, the great 'Fathers of Faith' and the many sung-and-unsung (yet) disciples of Jesus Christ, and 9'001 other pioneers & frontiersman. You can bet your bottom dollar that every one of these great men also had plenty of issues as well. >tl;dr Thanks for the compliment Anon, and I apologize if I disturbed you. But TBH it's all of us here that will rise together. We're all gonna make it! Cheers. :^) >=== -patch misspelling
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>>22453 >why are there no 3rd parties exploiting the backdoors to sell secrets? They have and they do. >And if the intel agencies (really just the NSA) have access to all these backdoors, why haven't there been more articles about agents abusing the backdoors to watch their ex or spouse? Their has been abuses. They try to cover most of them up and I suspect some are either eliminated or threatened and...they own the media. They control the stories. >no way to prove an open source project is compromised >You aren't helping your arguments about AI here. It takes time and lots opf eyes and lots of work t find these sort of things. And who says the code they push for upgrades "IS" the actual source. Who checks that? And it has nothing to do with AI, at all. I was going to say more but I know what ethnic group you belong to by the way you talk and it's pointless to deal with you people at all. A complete waste of time so I'll stop.
>>22472 >What really gets me is that there seems to be a huge schism in software lately, where everything is either a borderline useless smartphone app that you need to pay to use, or you need to install python and git and use the terminal for a package downloader just to install the software, Even though I know it's too much and a bit anal the above is EXACTLY why I posted that huge mass of stuff on Rebol here, >>22028 With Rebol most everything is included to make damn near any sort of GUI based program that does most anything you want. It makes programming tiny, GUI based programs easy to put together. Have any of you ever looked at GUI stuff for windows or Linux? It's a huge massive ball of complexity held together by miles of typing to do anything. The only way around it these days seems to be some 100mb downloaded javashit abomination. It's awful. I know I get off track a lot but there's so much one sentence stuff that amounts to nothing but 4chan type babbling and most things, require more than one sentence complete a thought. Most things, especially the things were talking about, become complicated and inter-meshed, very quickly and I like to speak in, within the context, complete thoughts, so I'm understood. To do so gets, a bit wordy at times. There's a chatGPT that was trained on 4chan to be politically incorrect. They don't link it directly anymore but...it has hashes for it so you could likely find a torrent for it. Info here, https://huggingface.co/ykilcher/gpt-4chan I've got a copy of it, (I think, it's in the folder I have for this), but haven't done anything with it. It's big. 22.55GB
>>22616 Nice. Thanks.
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>>22776 >It's extremely hard to beat human labor in price I bet you could make an Elysium type robot, after the first 3 or 4 are made, for next to nothing. Less than $3,000. All the parts could be made out of plant waste glued together with thermoset glue, ( resorcinol (1,3-dihy- droxybenzene) and wood waste, like straw). The stuff they make outdoor plywood with. The conductors could be aluminium and string together with cheap MOSFETS. If processor power doubles maybe twice more I expect you could get cheaper labor for the Bot than you could just feeding humans to keep them barely alive.
>>22340 >gpt4all Uhhh, I know I should lurk moar and everything, but this is actually REALLY nice. They're project has been progressing nicely: >https://gpt4all.io/index.html It looks like it's at the level where you don't even have to know all this complicated AI or programming shit, you don't need to have an online server, shit you don't have to be online at all, you don't need to have some account where you give someone your phone number, you just have to feed it a bunch of prompts in the correct order. It even has access to some of the uncensored dbs.
>>22990 Their, sorry, I'm tired.
>>22982 >replying to a month-old post when the conversation has moved on touch grass >They try to cover most of them up and I suspect some are either eliminated or threatened spoken like someone who's watched too many spy movies. >who says the code they push for upgrades "IS" the actual source. Who checks that? you're a Windows user, aren't you? Linux distros compile most software from source and some distros are pushing for https://reproducible-builds.org/ >I know what ethnic group you belong to by the way you talk and it's pointless to deal with you people at all. hmm, the fascist equivalent of "you're literally Hitler". very insulting.
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>>22993 Hardly anyone compiles all their software. Linux or not. Any of it. And if you do compile it, do you go through every line and check it out? No, no one does that. Look at how you are all over the map trying to make me seem some foolish person who knows nothing by linking a bunch of unrelated nonsense that has nothing to do with anything I said. A tactic. Seen over and over. "It's all so tiresome". HAHHA the more you write the more confident I become that you are of the same bunch that did 9-11. Let's see, conspiracy theories are foolish. Yet building 7, not hit by a plane, and only on fire in three or four floors, fell the same speed as if ONLY AIR held it up for over 100 feet. But no, can't be a conspiracy because the news, run by the same people, told me so. I think the sort of gas-lighting you are doing by pretending there are no backdoors is backfiring. It just points you out as one of the gas-lighters. There's a lot of this these days where the lies are piled on lies, on lies and the "officials" have to continue them and so out themselves due to the ever more elaborate lies they have to pile on top of each other.
I'm not going to read this entire thread but let's keep this place pol free please. I don't know whether the mossad did 911 but some say pearl harbor was an inside job as well. I wouldn't want to exclude jewish, indian, brazilian,etc... talent because some people decided to be toxic. If you need to vent there's 4chan's pol or your friendly local therapist.
>>22998 well misogyny is alright and all, but I meant pol tier stuff you know racism, antisemitism and all that jazz.
>>22994 its not a lie if it was real in your imagination
>>22999 well I think we're on the same page. I'm ready to contribute to this thing. I'm not going to promote gayness or black supremacists either. But shaking off the trolls is a net positive in my book. I'm tired of hearing the whining over and over.
>>23009 Okay maybe I'm being too thin skinned but why does this stuff not only have to follow me everywhere in a completely unrelated site to 4chan, on an completely unrelated board on an completely unrelated topic...
>>23011 because pol is mainstream now, or to be more precise the mainstream is dead, get over it, just today the potato house went on some belligerent tirade about roger waters for wearing a nazi uniform at his concert in germany, political correctness is a joke now its been overplayed to the point that no one cares anymore just like the woke trash especially after the idiocy of goyvid woke up even the most comatose of people to just how controlled and propagandized everything is stay safe and effective
>>23015 yeah okay everyone's entitled to their opinion but this thread is about ai news anyways. I just want to keep /pol/itics out of this.
>>22990 The way you can feed a local set of documents makes me wonder if you can affect personality by instead changing the documents in the local folder...
>>22994 >Hardly anyone compiles all their software. people unironically use gentoo as their main OS >And if you do compile it, do you go through every line and check it out? No, no one does that. are you saying an audit doesn't count if it's not formally logged? >A tactic. Seen over and over. it's called "picking the low-hanging fruit". >the same bunch that did 9-11. Are you talking about IS, who flew the planes, or the CIA, who knew it was going to happen and did nothing? I want to make sure I'm properly offended. >Yet building 7, not hit by a plane, and only on fire in three or four floors, fell the same speed as if ONLY AIR held it up for over 100 feet. But no, can't be a conspiracy because the news, run by the same people, told me so. how many people would have to be involved in order to destroy building 7 in a "controlled detonation"? let me guess, you figure it'd take less then 10 people, and they'd been sneaking explosives into the building for days ahead of time, right? this is why people like you are called conspiritards, you stop thinking as soon as you decide there was a conspiracy. >pretending there are no backdoors don't gaslight me, I didn't say that: >>22453 >if everything's backdoored, why... the amount of manpower required to backdoor everything ensures that if it were to happen, it definitely wouldn't be secret. and to be frank, the congress critters publicly attempting to backdoor encryption tells me the feds don't have as much access as they want. >There's a lot of this these days where the lies are piled on lies, on lies are you aware there are groups promoting that view, that our governments are always lying, to push nihilism and reduce civilian participation in government? the word "civilian" can be taken as a euphemism for "people worth less then $1B" here
In response to some >>>/lebbit/ -tier, Filthy Commie, pro-Globohomo posting going on ITT, I'm adjusting the thread's subject. Since much so-called """news""" often bears directly on the same topics, this serial thread will now be considered our 'official' /pol/ funposting containment thread here on /robowaifu/ going forward. 'We report, you decide' kind of thing. >tl;dr Please keep /pol/ funposting ITT anons. :^) >=== -prose edit
Edited last time by Chobitsu on 06/10/2023 (Sat) 15:07:08.
>>22994 My apologies for attempting to constrain your conversation to /meta Grommet. Since everyone else has decided to flaunt that request (even while you honored it, apparently), this is now the correct thread for such. Please proceed apace Anon! :^)

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