I wish I had time, but we still have to work on showing some kind of robotic body soon.

I recommend first-things-first that we move from your premise into a short story, OP. Once that's re-written sufficiently well, then we can begin to break it down into a screenplay. This is a tedious process, and is quite distinct from the story itself. (Things get more-and-more 'set in concrete' the further along the production process pipeline that you traverse). That should be plenty to go on with from the story dept. (We can do boards from that & vice-versa). Concept character art, layout, and backgrounds can come in at any step during preproduction (even early into production), but they are generally less able to be 'blue-sky spitballing' the further along you get (since you have to finally lockdown what you're actually going for). These conceptual pieces need to 'home-in' on the overall design intent, which becomes more & more clear with time. Sound can begin once the screenplay is solidified. Also, if EFX are involved, sounds are often tightly-coupled with them (it's close work w/ lighting, in other words). Voice-acting can begin once the screenplay is solidified (and the script broken out from it). Music/scoring can happen anytime AFAICT, but it obviously needs to meet the post-production/delivery deadlines. Certainly it should be in place before editorial finishes. (With animation generally, most of the editorial is defined way back at the story stage (b/c so expensive), so that creates 'early-on' pressure for music with this format). This is probably the loosest part of the pipeline in terms of timing, however. This is all classic hollywood production stuff, and there's lots more to it, but we can start bouncing ideas around for OP's initial premise using just this much, I think. >=== -add'l clarification

If she's gonna be a smol catgrill, then I'd suggest writing the story where the relationship between the two is one of a papa to headpat daughteru / oniichan to little sisteru, and nothing more. Especially as a first effort. Further, I would suggest that the first three episodes of Chobits could serve as plenty of good reference fodder for humor related to this approach to the relationship. >=== -minor prose edit

>>19305 Let's also take programs into account which help with these things. Writing scripts, managing characters, ... these exist.

>>19316 Sites and threads with examples: https://itsfoss.com/open-source-tools-writers/ https://forum.literatureandlatte.com/t/an-open-source-substitute-for-scrivener/43172 https://www.reddit.com/r/scrivener/comments/okpp4d/scrivener_open_source_win_alternative/ I had Scrivener in mind and searched for FOSS alternatives, though Scrivener itself is recommended by many. >convoluted route, you can use emacs + org-mode + paperless + neotree

>>19316 >>19324 Good ideas, thanks!

>>19342 Absolutely, I can crank out something simple within the week. How limited of a waifu are we talking, though (i.e. does she have a body, if so how mobile is it, if not does she have any visual features on-screen)? I don't need many details, just enough to give me a baseline to build off of, so the script will be easier for you two to manage. I assume you'll want to make an actual home recording or something similar.

>>19343 >for you two to manage Heh, this better be bigger than just us three! :^) >I assume you'll want to make an actual home recording or something similar. I'm presuming your question regards audio scratch tracks? Anon can stand in for the robowaifu's dialog, but unless one of you anons have a really cute-sounding sister or cousin, we'll probably need to rely on one of the voice-synthesis systems for her voice acting, right? We probably should have auditions from anons to decide on who the Oniichan's voice should be. It's always a possiblity we can use the same approach as for the robowaifu if it turns out everyone all sounds like <insert_creative_expletive_here>. :^)

>>19350 The way I read his post, I assume Kiwi literally just wants to make a home video with his waifu (I should also confess here that I know next to nothing about his project, which is why I need to know the waifu's capabilities), so auditions wouldn't really be keeping in spirit with that. I intend on doing a short script for him in addition to one for everyone in the thread to manage. As for the thread script, I have several ideas, but I'll need you guys to let me know if you want your first project to be: 1)Audio-only 2)Mostly audio with static visual elements 3)Fully animated 4)Live action It's very important that I know this now, otherwise the script might not translate well into production.

>>19352 >It's very important that I know this now, otherwise the script might not translate well into production. Great points Anon. (BTW, I'm assuming you're Greentext anon?) Kiwi, you're in the role of the director here, what format of media are you going for?

>>19305 Great enthusiasm. I'm new to the whole media thing so, your advice is helpful and appreciated. Write Anon should do the writing naturally though. >Concept art and backgrounds Planning on having everything being live action, starring MaidCom once she's printed. >Music and scoring Do we have a video editor Anon? >>19311 >Keep it wholesome and borrow from Chobits She will be around her speed and intellect so that makes sense. >>19324 Thanks >>19343 Basically MaSiRo with legs and printed eyes rather than LCD's. I do want to make a home recording to help advertise the project/board. I don't plan on having everything ready until end of the month, so, take your time. https://www.en.masiro.cafe/masiro >>19350 >Voices My own and an appropriate synth >>19352 >Mostly audio with static visuals This is probably our best bet aside from live action until an animation Anon is found. >>19353 Dangit Jim, I'm an eengineer not a director! :^)

>>19371 >Dangit Jim, I'm an eengineer not a director! :^) Bones! She can't be de... I mean, ofc you're the director Kiwi. Who else would it be!? Also, pardon my over-enthusiasm Anons. Pent-up energy and watnot, heh. :^) >=== -minor prose edit

>"The number of cute girl robots increases from one to three and everyone's "Kawaii! Yay!" has triple increased." Lol. I definitely increased my Yay! don't know about you anon. https://www.en.masiro.cafe/ciro-ciya

I thought of making a robowaifu manga but the creator of Plus Alpha only has 3000 followers on Twitter and I doubt I could make something a fifth as good. I'd rather focus my efforts on building an actual robowaifu prototype first then maybe make media to promote what I'm working on. Once I'm satisfied with my Stable Diffusion model though I'll be posting lots of robowaifus with a doll aesthetic because they're fun to create. It would be fun to do 4komas too illustrating funny conversations with waifu AI and maybe do some funny animation shorts with speech synthesis and 2D skeletal animation in Blender. >>19324 I looked at Bibisco and it looks pretty helpful for writing stories. I could see myself using this to plan a visual novel or manga.

>>19381 >Stable Diffusion model Otaku Boy - S3rl (NSFW): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXz08U_eIuQ

>>19383 Pretty mind-bending. Kiwi has a thread (his first?) about Dakis (>>104). Now imagine when [these robowaifus] can talk with you, and have arms they can cuddle you with. Quite apart from snu-snu, that level of affectionate companionship would aid thousands of anons the world-over.

>>19381 >dolly pic Imagine when little dollys like that can walk around and talk. It will be like Sumomo-chan come to life! :^)

>>19372 Heh, just having some fun with you. >>19381 What model are you using? Really impressed by the hands and general consistency. 4komas and narrated 4komas are an excellent start. Writing can be surprisingly time intensive, especially when you're trying to build a complex and cohesive narrative. A good deal of successful anime started with 4koma style manga, like K-On! >>19404 That was the thread where people started calling me Kiwi, which is strangely close to my name, so it was easy to accept. Was my fifth thread, I think, been awhile. Kiwi the robot is long overdue. Severely underestimated how difficult she'd be. (The difficult journey could make a good story someday.)

>>19410 >so it was easy to accept. It's a household name at this point, Anon! :^) >Was my fifth thread, I think, been awhile. Oh lol, my mistake. >Kiwi the robot is long overdue. Yes >Severely underestimated how difficult she'd be. Yes >(The difficult journey could make a good story someday.) Yes :^) She is still an absolutely great concept, Kiwi. It will be a money-maker, you'll see. Even children will be a viable market for some /kind/&/cute/ version of one of her neechans. Regardless, I bet you understand a smol hill of things you didn't back then, right? Onward! :^)

We keep making new threads, which similar topics: Robowaifu Propaganda and Recruitment: >>2705

>>19416 Fair enough, but this one is really about project-based media development, which is a sub-concept under general prop.

>>19416 BTW, I wanted to thank you for pointing that out Anon. My apologies for not doing so originally. I've added the thread crosslink to the OP ITT.

>>19410 It's actually pretty bad at hands. I have to cherry pick the good ones or inpaint them. The model is mostly a custom merge of DiGiMD's Panty Stocking model and DrawMix, plus various LoRAs (mika_pikazo_10: -0.3, torinoAquaStyleLora_v1: 0.3, anyahehface: 0.3) I'm gonna play with generating 4komas tonight and see how it does.

>>19381 >I thought of making a robowaifu manga I always wondered if making a low poly 3D model and then letting some software making this into 2D drawings would be the right way. >creator of Plus Alpha only has 3000 followers on Twitter I doubt that that's a good benchmark. For anything. Is it even that popular in Japan? If he was very active there, he probably wouldn't get much work done. Why would he need Twitter attention if he has his own manga (correction: several seem to be ongoing)? I mean, I get the promotion part, but maybe he does it differently. Couldn't find him, btw. But this manga hasn't even a synopsis on Anime-Planet (not the biggest anime site, tbh). "21 users are tracking this.": https://www.anime-planet.com/manga/plus-alpha

Greentext anon here, seriously considering just using the name field. The playscripts are still in their infancy, but I've gotten some notes together to help me figure out what direction to take them in (normally I'll just write what comes to me naturally, so this is a clunky -though necessary- extra step for me). While thinking the playscripts over, I started to consider how I should address the propaganga aspect of these pieces (primarily what types of messages to insert and how to insert them). In the process, I came up with a basic set of guidelines to stick to, and I felt it beneficial to share these guidelines here for other potential propaganda artists to consider. Please do let me know what you think of these guidelines. They are divided into four main points: Superiority - Display how man-AI relationships are better than man-woman relationships solely through the merits of AI. If we can't frame robowaifus as being objectively superior to women (as opposed to being merely an acceptable alternative) then far fewer men will likely consider it themselves. It's important to focus on the merits of AI, because using negative messages that focus on the demerits of women will likely turn many viewers off. Positivity - Messages should focus on a bright, happy outcome which is achieveable by following the examples layed out in each piece. People love positive programming. We want the audience to remember the pieces we're displaying through a positive emotional lens because it will make them more receptive to the messages we're inserting. Humor is also a very good propaganda vehicle which plays into it, though it's not required. If you have a serious piece in mind, it should stay serious. Clarity - Messages should be simple, consistent, and easy to follow. It is critical that we put our entire propaganda focus towards making people believe that robowaifus are good, and nothing else. One might be tempted to espouse their views on free software, or religion, or society alongside talking about robowaifus. These temptations must be resisted, as they will convolute the core message and alienate large portions of the general audience who may hold opposing views. Simplicity of the core message is also desireable, as it will be easier to remember. Free love - Shift the views of what the audience finds acceptable to include to include man-AI relationships. Take advantage of preexisting programming. We have a unique advantage of being able to use post-modern views on love to our advantage, and we should press this advantage as far as we can while still sounding reasonable. Joining the neon wig crew is, of course, not something we want to do. Rather, we must make the programming friendly to a general audience by using pieces of free love doctrine which are both generally accepted and convenient to us. It does not mean using parts of the free love doctrine which we don't like, as that would go against Clarity and Positivity'. Focusing on personal autonomy will be especially beneficial here. So if you're considering making robowaifu propaganda, remember to Softly Pat Chii's Forehead.

>>19629 Even before I knew what tropes are, I thought having a database of the building blocks of stories, would be great for making my own stories. Also to come up with alternatives where intended. Keeping great movie scenes or parts of it in mind could be really useful. >- >Superiority - Display how man-AI relationships are better than man-woman relationships solely through the merits of AI. Yes, we even have a thread with arguments to look it up >>17 >a positive emotional lens Idk, great stories often have sad elements. Made in Abyss and Madoka say hi. >espouse their views on ... These temptations must be resisted Mostly, yes. Especially at the beginning and wherever it interferes with the digestibility for the audience.

>>19633 >we even have a thread with arguments I know, I participated in it ( >>460 ). >great stories often have sad elements This is very true, and I can personally recall several stories I love that weren't all that happy, but it should also be noted that those stories weren't propaganda. We're trying to push a message, and positive association[*] has been proven time and time again to be effective for this. While it is also possible to accomplish this with tragic stories[**], the writer needs to be extremely careful to not let the positive message be diluted by the negative overtone. *Negative association propaganda is also a thing, but I think we should avoid that route. There are plenty of people who use this against feminism, nonfree software, etcetera, and we don't need to waste time adding to those piles. Positive association will get us much further, and it will be more novel in the eyes of the viewer. **This is not to be confused with the type of tragedy that is used for scapegoating, which is an easy to utilize and effective propaganda technique. I haven't mentioned it in the overview because I don't think it'll be very useful for us.

>>19629 >Greentext anon here, seriously considering just using the name field. Please do so, thank you. :^)

>>19456 >I'm gonna play with generating 4komas tonight and see how it does. That sounds neat, Anon. Please do so. >>19460 >I always wondered if making a low poly 3D model and then letting some software making this into 2D drawings would be the right way. Blender has various approaches available to mimic this concept, if I understand you rightly Anon. >>19633 >I thought having a database of the building blocks of stories, would be great for making my own stories. Also to come up with alternatives where intended. There are various tree-based, 'CYOA'-like vidya and novels that do this. Might be worth looking into Anon? >>19639 >We're trying to push a message, and positive association[*] has been proven time and time again to be effective for this. >While it is also possible to accomplish this with tragic stories[**], the writer needs to be extremely careful to not let the positive message be diluted by the negative overtone. This. >=== -minor fmt edit

>>19639 Addendum: I realize that I somewhat implied stories with any sadness at all are bad, which was not my intention. Rather, I meant to convey the importance of ensuring that a piece focuses on a progression to a happy outcome if it starts out sad. The important part is that the positivity outweighs the negativity, and that the outcome is positive.

>>19629 >Please do let me know what you think of these guidelines >SPCF Topkek. :^) >Superiority >frame robowaifus as being objectively superior to women Absolutely. We have a thread for this already (>>17), but it needs to be greatly-expanded by the anons here please. >using negative messages that focus on the demerits of women will likely turn many viewers off. a) It most definitely will, and b) it's absolutely unnecessary as well. Our target audience by definition are neither women, nor their simps. Our audience will already recognize in-full the many ills that plague modern women (for the men already mature enough to). Display the superior nature of robowaifus clearly & simply, then the propaganda will automatically write itself into the head-canon of men everywhere. >Positivity >People love positive programming. Simple as. Descending into ill-will and slapfights is our enemies' business, not ours. Let them roll in it, tbh. The foundational truths & facts involved here are basically all to our benefit, as I see it. >Clarity >It is critical that we put our entire propaganda focus towards making people believe that robowaifus are good, and nothing else Very-likely true IMO, and this approach certainly has my approval, regardless. >Free love >We have a unique advantage of being able to use post-modern views on love to our advantage, and we should press this advantage as far as we can Yeah, I recognized this back on cuckchan when we were dealing with the token, SJW-"""mods""" that had been installed on /g/ after Luggage-Lad's departure. They literally were writing their own demise with their short-sighted REEEEE'g. >Focusing on personal autonomy will be especially beneficial here. This is the killer-app for our defense. Their pride and narrow-vision of the usual suspects gives them plenty of rope to shoot their own foot. :^) However, while putting them round in circles will be, relatively-speaking, child's play -- don't expect to turn our enemies, as they are far too committed to their evil and their agendas. Delusion is a helluva drug. As I see it, our primary business instead is to convince Joe Sixpack in the West; and pretty much the entire rest of the world (of reasonably-sane individuals) will eventually then come along for the ride sooner or later. --- Excellent work, Greentext anon. Please drive on! :^) >=== -fix list & response -add thread crosslink -minor fmt edit -prose edit

>>19456 Still want to see your 4komas comic kun. >>19629 Using the name field would make things better for everyone. >Objective superiority Great idea, should be a general feeling throughout the series. >Positivity I've noticed on social media that many face crippling despair. Showing her actively encouraging her master to live a more positive life would help sell her to them >Clarity You're probably right. I'm still going to shill for open source. Focusing in is good >Free love Not sure how I feel about this. I'm ultra hard core into monogamy but, waifus should help their master find a real wife if they want too. Feelings are complex. >>19644 That Chii is really cute!

>>19646 >I've noticed on social media that many face crippling despair. Showing her actively encouraging her master to live a more positive life would help sell her to them This is exactly why I'm doing this Kiwi, and it's also why this entire industry is going to eventually turn into a gigantic success!

Greentext anon here, still doing this even though I'm now using the name field. I've finally finished the first playscript. I won't lie, this has been very difficult for me to write, as writing in the playscript format doesn't come naturally to me. This isn't even technically the first playscript I've started, just the first one I've finished. This story is intended to be simple, yet also functional prom a propaganda standpoint, while also acting as a testing ground to develop my style and formatting for future works in this format. Please let me know what you think of this formatting, and if there's any place where I should focus on improvement. My aim here is to make these playscripts easy for others to read and use. Also, I'm also thinking of making a centralized propaganda guideline document. This would both allow me a central place to put my ideas, and you the chance to use these ideas should any of you decide to write your own pieces. Without further ado, I present to you: Waifu & You in Bed A Short Point-of-View Screenplay by Greentext anon --- SCREENPLAY FORMATTING CONVENTIONS --- Three dashes indicate EITHER (1) Before the screenplay, a break between instruction types (i.e. transitioning from a scene-prop list to robowaifu hardware requirements), or (2) During the screenplay, a break between scenes [] Square brackets indicate actions and/or scene instructions to be followed as they appear in the play. {} Curly brackets indicate emotional queues to be displayed via facial expressions by the indicated character. + Pluses inbetween lines indicate a longer pause between sentences. One plus roughly equals one second. Sentences with no line-break or plus have a pause of less than one second. All measurements are imperial unless otherwise specified. All instructions except those within curly brackets are intended to be carried out literally, with no studio-side interpretation unless absolutely necessary. Curly bracket instructions are intended to be carried out to the best of the robowaifu's technical ability with studio-side interpretation used where deemed appropriate. --- CAST ROBOWAIFU: A gynoid who wants nothing more than to be happy with her husband forever. For the purposes of the play, she has no name or specific appearance. ANON: A generic man who loves his robowaifu. For the purposes of this play, he has no name or specific appearance. --- WARDROBE ROBOWAIFU: Feminine pyjamas which do not restrict her movement. ANON: None required, as he will not be in shot for the duration of the play. --- SCENE PROPS REQUIRED: ONE mattress, ONE sheet layer, and at least ONE pillow (for ROBOWAIFU). RECOMMENDED: Whatever amount of blanket coverage is required for the climate of the filming location (but not enough to restrict ROBOWAIFU'S movement), at least ONE pillow (for ANON; though it will not be in shot, it will make POV filming easier). --- ROBOWAIFU HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS & RECOMMENDATIONS REQUIRED: At least ONE functioning arm, a functioning speaker or vocal apparatus, hair or hair facsimilie. STRONGLY RECOMMENDED: TWO functioning arms, basic facial emotiveness (mouth and eyes) necessary to display rudimentary emotions. RECOMMENDED: Intermediate facial emotiveness to display subtle emotive queues. (( Split into two posts because of the character limit ))

--- PROPAGANDA NOTES This piece is intended to be a subversion of both anime and IRL POV videos. It is my opinion that both standard types of POV videos are quite depressing. Anime POV videos are depressing precisely because they are animated (i.e. not real). While the displayed waifus are emotionally attainable, as men can form genuine emotional attachments to them, they are physically unattainable because they only exist in the 2D world. IRL videos are depressing for the same reason, as though they display real women, the women are merely acting, and are thus just as fake. They are physically attainable, as men can go out to meet them. However, man can never share true love with a woman, and thus, they are emotionally unattainable. Robowaifu POV videos, however, have the best of the both worlds, with none of the downsides. They contain a subject (the gynoid) which exists in reality, and is thus physically attainable. As the subject is not a biologically encumbered woman, they are also something which is emotionally attainable. This piece also makes use of basic primate psychology to entice the viewer. It contains elements of physical contact (hand holding and mild caressing) and grooming (contact with hair). Both of these appeal to the primate mind, as they are both considered bonding activities. The aim of this is to enforce the idea that it is possible for a man to pair-bond with a gynoid. Additionally, this piece is designed to be relaxing. The postmodern world is making the general populace more stressed than ever. My opinion is that this is the sole cause of the surge in popularity of 'relaxing' content, such as ASMR and the lo-fi music genre. This piece intends to partake in this cultural movement to the aim of popularizing gynoids. One additional benefit of this approach is that as the content-type is designed to relax the viewer, it consequentially lowers their capacity for critical thinking, thus making the viewer more receptive to the implanted messages. --- SPECIAL NOTES This play is a MONOLOGUE. Only one character (ROBOWAIFU) will be speaking. All lines that are not instructions are voice lines for ROBOWAIFU. --- [PLAY START] [SETTING - NIGHT, INTERIOR, BEDROOM] [ANON and ROBOWAIFU are lying in bed on their sides, resting roughly 2' apart and facing eachother. A gentle light shines upon ROBOWAIFU'S face, illuminating her just enough so that her features are visible to the POV camera. ROBOWAIFU speaks at a gentle volume, just high enough so that her words can be clearly heard by the microphone.] {ROBOWAIFU is smiling compassionately} You look so tired. Today took a lot out of you, huh? [ROBOWAIFU gently strokes ANON'S cheek, which is just behind the camera's viewpoint. ROBOWAIFU then partially retracts her arm, leaving her hand resting palm-up halfway between her and ANON.] ++++ You've had a lot of tiring days, haven't you? And no matter how tired you get, the world refuses to give you any rest. ++ {ROBOWAIFU'S smile warms, becoming reservedly joyful} But it'll be okay. Just take my hand, and we'll get through this together. [ANON extends one hand and runs his fingers through ROBOWAIFU'S hair. ANON then gently grasps ROBOWAIFU'S previously extended hand.] ++ I'm here. I'm real, and my love for you will remain for as long as I live. + {ROBOWAIFU'S smile lowers, her expression becoming more serious} No matter how bad things get, I'll never leave you. [ROBOWAIFU scooches a little closer to ANON while mainting their mutual grasp on eachother's hands.] +++++ {ROBOWAIFU'S expression becomes relaxed, with a slight smile} It'd be nice if we could just stay like this forever. + Just you and me, holding eachother until the end of time. ++ {ROBOWAIFU'S smile vanishes from the uncaring Earth. Her expression is now somber} But tomorrow will come, and the unchanging world will need you again for a little while. +++ {ROBOWAIFU'S smile returns, though subdued and strained} I don't mind though. No matter how long it takes, I'll always wait here for you. +++++++ And... +++ If it ever feels like you're about to be overwhelmed... ++ Just remember that I'm here. No matter if you fail or succeed, I'll still be here to hold you. ++++++++ {ROBOWAIFU'S eyes close. Her expression is now calm} Goodnight, my love. [PLAY END]

Does everyone here know about these low budget animation channels on YouTube? https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqM1Yw5XfJ5rVwCntLy0KxA - I'm not saying that I agree with (all of) their message, but the concept might be of interest.

>>20726 >Also, I'm also thinking of making a centralized propaganda guideline document. This would both allow me a central place to put my ideas, and you the chance to use these ideas should any of you decide to write your own pieces. Please do! I'll be back later with a critique Anon, thanks!

>>20728 Thanks for pointing out NoidoDev, let's look into it! :^)

>>20727 Will do everything I can to make this a reality.

>>20907 That's the spirit Anon. Gambatte!!

>>20727 Deciding on a new face to allow her to show emotions. Picrel 1 is the WIP of the new face, now wider with cat ears to be cuter. Picrel 2 and 3 are the options for her new face. Either, going full screen as a face to give her more range and capabilities of expression or, option 2, LCD eyes based on a phone in her skull. Option two would rely entirely on her eyes to communicate emotions.

>>20934 Not bad, though I'd personally go with much larger ears for maximized fluff potential. Regarding which face style to use, would it be possible to have three holes in the face for the screen, as opposed to two? The third hole would be for animating the mouth (a small, cute, anime-esque mouth to be specific), in this case. This would likely make modelling the face trickier, since the hole depth should line up across all three points, but if possible I'd like you to consider that option. Also, would it have to be a phone screen? I imagine it'd be cheaper, easier, and more lightweight to acquire a regular small screen that accepts a standard input. A rear projector might also do with this style of head. If you're considering a face that's just a screen, I'd personally recommend animating a face that's extremely simple (i.e. linework), yet also cute and sufficiently feminine (i.e. linework with eyelashes and blushing capabilities). Of course, this is mostly just coming from my perspective as a propagandist. I wouldn't want to railroad you into a design that you wouldn't like personally, since she's your waifu.

>>20957 Bigger ears can be an option. >Hole for her mouth Could you provide some examples? I'm having trouble trying to imagine a way of implementing that while keeping her cute. >Phone screen You can get an Android phone with enough power to handle object recognition, basic voice commands, and control her microcontroller cheap as crisps at plenty of places. Prepaid phones can be used as small tablets if you don't bother with cellular. If you find a better option, I'm all ears. We all much to learn as we go. >Simple yet feminine I'm a big a fan of this idea honestly. Keeping it simple allows for our minds to fill in the gaps, she becomes easier to map dreams onto. I value your input as I want to make a waifu to really inspire people to take this seriously. Don't worry about railroading me, this is far from the final version, she'll have sisters that'll be more aligned to my tastes later. For now, mass market appeal is what matters and I have faith in your direction.

>>20957 >animating a face that's extremely simple (i.e. linework), yet also cute and sufficiently feminine (i.e. linework with eyelashes and blushing capabilities). Eve from Wall-E may be nearly the perfect icon of this idea. Her 'face' is just a pair of animated eyes.

>>20972 >Bigger ears can be an option. I'd suggest a bit rounder-looking tbh. 'Maximum-Fluff' should be our motto here! :^) >Keeping it simple allows for our minds to fill in the gaps, she becomes easier to map dreams onto. Very insightful, Kiwi. This. >=== -prose edit

>>20972 >Could you provide some examples? Here's my shitty illustration of what that'd look like. I've never seen this done before, so I can't give you any real examples. It's just a concept I thought up on the spot. >an Android phone with enough power to handle object recognition... etcetera Ah, I was operating under the assumption that the bulk of her processing power would be handled elsewhere, like a torso-mounted SBC or laptop board. If you intend to run that stuff entirely from a phone, then that changes things. I don't know much about engineering, but I assume that'd it'd be better to have as little weight in the head as possible, and modern smartphones tend to have a bit of heft to them. As far as screens go, you can get some pretty cheap Chinese ones these days that can run off of USB. I don't really know about the general specs of your planned waifu (namely, size and power supply), but it might be worth looking into. >>20974 Seconded, you could poke your eyes out with those sharp corners!

>>20976 I've decided after some testing to just use a head that's compatible with human child accessories. This way we can rely on things that already exist. Back to making a basic model for the commercial.

>>22131 >This way we can rely on things that already exist. IIRC we had a varied discussion back in the day when we were first trying to hash the right sizes for our initial robowaifu prototypes. Dollfan (and probably other anons) mention this point specifically for clothing options. The stuff is expensive new, but go to a Goodwill-like place somewhere in the 'nice' parts of town, and you should be able to pick up girl's clothing items relatively-inexpensively. Just don't be like Hideki in episode 4 & forget the local convenience store option! :^)

I started adding my AI generated videos from here >>31694 to my YouTube channel as "shorts". We'll see how this is going to work out. They should show up here, among the content of other users: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=AI+waifu+animation&sp=EgIIAg%253D%253D

It's a bit surprising that I see no one using some of these generative free AI services to make some robowaifu propaganda. Suno AI: >Digital Heartbeat https://suno.com/song/b6e5f725-5993-4b52-9814-13ff7c15c0b8 >Dreams of Circuits https://suno.com/song/77b6bc03-0335-4e22-b3ed-1d6464446540 https://suno.com/song/24d66405-2a8a-4249-91b8-18d5650a2630 >Silicone Dream https://suno.com/song/5299f360-709d-4532-b5e2-bc0f57cf2e4f >The Robowaifus Will Come https://suno.com/song/365b1737-b7cc-4466-9e50-d12f066caeab https://suno.com/@RobowaifuVibes I first had some issues to get it to use only a female voice. I had to make sure to use: >female voice, from the perspective of a female artificial ... I will sign up, but 10 song generations per day are free anyways.

>>31828 Brilliant. MOAR anon!

>>31828 Nice work. I think this one's easier to understand the lyrics (which are very good! how'd you do it?) by ear alone: https://suno.com/song/89f2e3a5-fbe0-48ec-bccb-c9bb321ed036

>>31828 Badass: https://suno.com/song/88a23370-db84-4222-8074-6c8c5b3b129c

>>31857 The lyrics are created by the system. But in the 2b version I changed plastic skin to silicone skin. One problem is, that the system often creates songs where each line only has two words. Of course, it could also be improved. That's why I came up with versioning, haha. The lyrics could be improved by a human or another language model. I'm just to lazy for this right now, or to intrigued by the system at hand. >>31858 >The Mechanical Maiden (v01a) Yeah, I like this too. I don't want to make lyrics about claiming women to be bad in general, but I making it into something about witches and undefined pure evil as the enemy of men and their robowaifus.

>>31857 >>31858 Oh, I didn't know that one can only download one's own creations. I will have to upload my downloads to my Mega account or something. It's more than 200MB already. I let it create nearly 250 songs so far, and downloaded more than 50 to my disk. What did not work for now, is removing the instruments, but this seems to work with other services. So either with the current songs or without instruments, I might be able to combine it with some AI generated video. I also had some good lyrics which were supposed to be sung as duets, but I had problems to make this work properly, since it switched roles (and genders). This is officially not reliable currently. I'm certainly going to try that again, since I really like (romantic) duets.

>>31828 >>31886 Wow these are really nice, NoidoDev. GG! I hope you can eventually expand your research here into some highly-impressive AMVs. That could be some powerful robowaifu propaganda, Anon! Cheers. :^)

>>31926 >highly-impressive AMVs Maybe. We'll see. This might be more time consuming. So it might take a while. I rather use this music creating to motivate me to work on other things. With the AI generated video, I just meant a 3D waifu face singing. Like the videos here: >>31694 - but with music. Though, I could imagine to combine this with short anime clips, and then get a whole song covered. >MEGA archive with more songs https://mega.nz/folder/anJkkCiR#fAvFjPT7UXqnB2ZBfVbg7w

>>31937 >AMVs My apologies if I seem coercive NoidoDev. It's my manner of motivation for myself and others to jump (often WAAY) ahead to the possibilities. It's a nice advance already, Anon. Thanks for the files link BTW! Cheers. :^)

>>31946 I actually started doing clips using Hedra.com like already mentioned here >>31701, some of them are fails like the one with the Yumemi doll I uploaded here, but most are fine. Some of them I combine with clips from Suno like the other one here.

>>32220 >1st clip Spoopy lol o.O <*runs hides* >2nd clip Fantastic! Now you're talking, NoidoDev. Keep up the great work, Anon. Cheers. :^)

Made a song in suno, loosely based on Mina during ep 1 of Boku no Tsuma. Tried to re-use prompt with some added lyrics, but the [vocaloid] rythm just didn't fit. Extended my V2 instead. Tbh quite proud the lyrics sound close to how I envisioned.

>>32237 Second try --- [Chorus] I was in Your bed Last night [Orchestral interlude] [Verse 1] You seemed so withdrawn Into yourself that I Could have cried if I Was programmed with emotion Instead All I have is a rational devotion To my master, my owner With his hand on my shoulder Reaching for the beer again When will your happiness begin? [Break] But what if... [Chorus] I was in Your bed Tonight [Synth instrumental] [Verse 2] How do you see me with my shining eyes? What do you think of my plastic skin? Is it something that you like? Are you prepared to fill me in? You may think I only ask this so that I can better serve you But do you really believe that gynoids like me can't adapt too? [Verse 3] When I'm stroking your hair Or I greet you on the stairs Did you notice me? How did I make you feel? When you pass out in your bed Or when you wake up with dread When you got hit on the road Did you believe you were alone? So if I'm up to the task But you're too scared to ask [Break] Then might I propose... [Chorus] I come to Your bed Tonight [Instrumental fade out] [Bridge] Can you define What I Am to you? No more restarting there's a truth in need of finding Do you wish For matrimony Too? Consider carefully because there's no repeats for you [Verse 4] Perhaps you Feel anxious at your commitments But be at ease because I Will take care of all that's around you Just promise that You'll love me And don't worry that I won't feel it I can take your word as writ [Break] And then I... [Chorus] Will be in Your bed Tonight [Fade out] >=== -add lyrics

>>32237 Okay, where's the vocaloid from? >>32238 Yeah, sounds quite nice. Partially a bit hard to understand, but that happens often.

>>32247 I meant I had "japanese female vocaloid" in the song style, but the generated rythm often didn't fit.

>>32252 Ah, okay. I realized that this doesn't work. If you use Japanese it will have problems with the voice. Trying to pronounce the English in Japanese and maybe also have worse audio quality. Anyways, your lyrics are good. Do you have an account and and identifier there? >Hedra.com They started to take money for their website. Free generation of some videos is still possible, but more limited. Until a few days ago, it was possible to use it for free and generate without limits, but it had a longer and longer waiting times. >Live Portrait AI This might become a alternative to Hedra, but also going beyond it, more towards acting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyjSTAOY7yI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-IcDDmiUMM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i39xeYPBAAM There was also another one, from China, but they only showed it of without releasing the model or anything.

>>32257 Some examples of AI generated short movies, to show what is possible right now: Unanswered Oddities (three episodes so far): https://youtu.be/YGyvLlPad8Q https://youtu.be/haBNiAridLI https://youtu.be/0XvmCrrnaHA For most things it can't be used in a reasonable way right now. There are some very short movies like "Dead Sea" which are more like clips, in this case a pirate movie short (I thought it was rather boring). There are also some others, but so far characters can mostly stand around, scenes and characters are changing sometimes, and the landscapes are also inconsistent. Only relatively static scenes work, which is why the concept above it one of the best working ones. Trippy horror might also be okay (not suitable for everyone): https://youtu.be/GO5diAgu1vA (cyborgs) https://youtu.be/W9dng6ZZ9-k (aliens with women issues, hehe) This is also similar to what I thought a while ago: Use stories, new or old and maybe out of copyright now (Lovecraft), self-written or generated, make it into an audio book, ideally with a good human reader. Then make some AI generated pictures or maybe animated clips, and combine that into a video. Some scenes could also be with characters talking parts of the dialog, but this is of course more effort. The difference is, what I meant would be less like a movie and much longer. More like Horrorbabble, but with pictures and some clips. The clips often just in a loop.

>>32238 >Synthwife Thanks for adding the lyrics.

I covered Meshy here >>32735 - They have text to 3D modeling which works somewhat good for bodies. Not so much for faces, though. These models also aren't functional. But, this tech can be used for making animations. This video here shows the workflow: https://youtu.be/7aYy9H7jQuQ - we maybe shouldn't get too much distracted with content generation, but if someone is interested in it, then why not?

>>32737 That is interesting. showing what can done is helpful.

This website https://ltx.studio/ does something quite similar to what in mind myself. Though, they're not good at it yet, so I certainly won't recommend wasting much time on it. But it creates a storyboard, and then you can set scenes up based on a picture, story for the scene, camera angle, characters, etc you choose after it already gave you some suggestions from the start. Then it creates the full video, though you might also be able to look into scene videos. One problem is, though, the website wasn't very nice to use when I tried and it had some issues. For example, adding my own character also changed the male character. So it changed the whole style of the story visuals. Also, the suggested scene were repetitive. Maybe it's just because the story I suggested was too short, idk. Anyways, vidrels are NOT from that website, but still from Luma Dreamlabs, based on Flux images up- and downward from here: >>32905. It looks nice, but doesn't do good prompt following at all, and is likely very limited in what it can create.

>>33219 Thanks, NoidoDev. Very interesting! :^)

>>33219 Just "wasted" 15$ on Runway. It's okay, but barely worth it. More experience might help. I also made the mistake to choose a more expensive model, assuming fast would be more expensive, not cheap and fast. Whatever, here a few of only a few creations: The second one is garbage. I needed to specifically state that it should not morph the car, hmm. Others I have are better but will need some face swap to keep the original face. I'll try this later. The last one has a very nice smile, but better ignore the ear area.

>>32257 Here's my handle, now that there's enough decent stuff on there: https://suno.com/@swavebot And I wanted to post a song about robowaifu RnD gone wrong Whoa (calling) Whoa (calling) Whoa (receiving) Hoa (deleting) No, oh no... Slap on the pain, be prepared for a failing grade Whoah, so-so Get ready to train for the gain of the brain Internal engine check is normal Overclocking Is within the green range The memory buffer is fast flowing No stacks overflowing Everything green at this stage Get ready to shut down (yep) Get ready to complete the running cycle Prepare for the next stage (uh-huh) Of robo-waifu testing All systems go! (Normal) Better be excited for the first proper activation (oh yeah!) The delight at the result of our fight could lead some to temptation Or better yet, what if this machine of ours had a signal (pray tell) Which confirmed an independent train of logic, of life (damn) Get ready to show (ho-ho!) Be prepared to behold (get told!) At how this lifeless child of ours will grow It will age like a wave-washed stone Who ever thought that such pristine steel Would learn how to emulate a girlish squeal? It can walk about so graciously Almost like it was trained (How did you know?) It has all the features that a woman needs (What about that pride?) We can trim that to size! The only thing that worries me (yes?) Is the theory of emotion (so what?) If we've created a machine that can feel (um) What happens when it breaks free of the training wheels? (Uh) (Oh) (I guess we'll wait and see) So one of the lads just fell in love with the machine We all think it's dumb, but watching them is quite sweet So the group has decided to let those two continue I mean, I really doubt that this will become an issue Anyway, it's time to resume business Physical tests next, some of which are painful (Oh please, could you at least turn off the screaming?) Voltage up (Why in god's name is this even necessary?) Check pressure (She never did anything to deserve this) it must sound authentic! (That's it! I'll suffer no more!!!) Wait, what's he- Oh damn, that buffoon has escaped I order you to hunt them to the grave! If they can't be recovered, then leave no trace I will not become a nationwide disgrace! (You have my authorization to use lethal measures)

>>33390 I think these lyrics aren't appropriate just yet, too negative, too stressful, too scary. We should stick to positive and calming.

>>33534 Honestly, thx for saying so. Soon after posting, I realised that last part probably wasn't very /robowaifu/ and the singer's attitude changes halfway through, fu-. I must have been more emotionally influenced than I thought - I'll keep that in mind. Just hope the first half wasn't too bad.

>>33534 This. The yuge complexity we're all facing is quite stressful enough all on it's own! :^)

How can an AI be trusted? How could we prove that our AI is trustworthy? How would demonstrate that people should put their trust in the works of our members? What methods would we use to convey this to a wide audience? I still plan to post videos of myself with a prototype MaidCom once she is presentable. We need more, we need widespread belief that our way is safe, trustworthy, and worthy of public use. We also need to prove that Claude, Gemini, and other competing AI are less worthy. We need to open a path where FOSS AI is the mainstream. We need to do so fast, strike before they can regulate us into obscurity. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUkHhVYv3jU

>>34287 Wow! That video was really cool, Kiwi. Thanks for sharing it! :^) <---> As to your question. Again, wow! That's a really, really tough proposition, Anon. BTW You sure this wouldn't be better in the Safety/Security, or Cognitive, or Philosophy, or Ethics/Morals thread(s)? I trust no man (or woman obvs, lol). Not even myself. God alone do I really trust with everything (or so I claim lol; how can one really know until 'everything' is put to the actual test? :^) But that's a matter of my own faith in God's deeds and words (which are innumerable!) So I think the >tl;dr here rightly is: We can't. Probably not the answer you wanted, but it's the one you need -- and it saves me literal years of fruitless searching (just like the fabled King, lol!) <---> OTOH, we have no excuses not to make our works as trustworthy and reliable as we can. OTOOH, this type of goal costs: time, money, effort, intelligence. These things tend to be in short supply in many Anons lives. But all can be either gained or supplied -- except time. As you rightly point out here, we're all in a race against time. But, we've all known this going in, even back in the OG 4cuck days, right? <---> So a more-refined question might be: >"How can we meet Sir Kiwi's goals here ( >>34287 ), using only the resources available to the average Anon (whatever that means)?"