>>17957 As long as none of these robotic sexdolls are able to pass the turing test and nobody is seriously able to demonstrate an emerging conscience in these dolls, it should ward off most serious attempts by SJWs to try to agitate for these inventions to get rights. The bigger problem is what often happens when men take it upon themselves to talk up their sexdolls and think they are alive and might be deserving of more consideration. At no point should they be trying to make something as alive and flawed as women, nor fall under the delusion that what they designed or partake in is actually alive. You can't afford to have much limerance and bluepilled feelings about this. You have to approach it in a pragmatic way, the same way you'd not want to treat a sexual outlet like a oneitis and not allow others to lure you into hopeless romantic or excessively analytical feelings about something that doesn't need to be made more complicated than it is. >>17967 Not familiar with biocomputers. Do you mean storing programmatic information on biological DNA and RNA sequences as well as proteins and ribosomes https://medium.com/lansaar/what-is-biocomputing-82671bb381bd ? From this link: https://biohackinfo.com/biocomputers/, they don't appear to be very feasible in the near term. Imo more than with robotic companions, biocomputing will be useful in artificial wombs. Advances in nanotechnology may eventually spur more interesting applications for biocomputing: https://www.online-sciences.com/computer/biological-computers-mechanism-uses-pros-and-cons/

>>17975 > As long as none of these robotic sexdolls are able to pass the turing test and I wont be optimizing for passing it, since it requires her to claim to be human. I hate it when devs go for that. > nobody is seriously able to demonstrate an emerging conscience in these dolls, it should ward off most serious attempts by SJWs to try to agitate for these inventions to get rights. People will see a conscience whenever they want to. > The bigger problem is what often happens when men take it upon themselves to talk up their sexdolls and think they are alive and might be deserving of more consideration. That's in part what many if not most here are going to do. Robowaifus are meant for having a emotional connection. The difference to biological life is the lack of such reproduction and naturally evolved wish for full autonomy. > At no point should they be trying to make something as alive and flawed as women, There's no connection between alive and flawed. > You can't afford to have much limerance and bluepilled feelings about this. You have to approach it in a pragmatic way, the same way you'd not want to treat a sexual outlet like a oneitis and not allow others to lure you into hopeless romantic or excessively analytical feelings about something that doesn't need to be made more complicated than it is. I disagree, robowaifus aren't supposed to be equal or fully autonomous as in "she could choose her another partner" but otherwise it is about having an emotional connection similar to a relationship, of course.

>>17975 I'm talking more about wetware computers (think neurons on computer chips or slime mold computers) check out this thread >>2184 for more info.

>>17984 > People will see a conscience whenever they want to. True but making robowaifus more emotional will increase the chances of them doing it. >That's in part what many if not most here are going to do. Robowaifus are meant for having a emotional connection. The difference to biological life is the lack of such reproduction and naturally evolved wish for full autonomy. Why do you need it to seem alive and deserving of more consideration? Aren't there some here that are simply trying to make a good enough alternative to women? That might simply require them rivaling prostitutes and fwb. Even if something like that exists now, it's not cheap or accessible enough for most guys. A means of reproduction separate of women is needed too, but artificial wombs separate from robowaifus can address that. >robowaifus aren't supposed to be equal or fully autonomous as in "she could choose her another partner" Unless you guard against hypergamy in the design by programming or designing the AI to neglect all aspects of hypergamy like differing behavior of the robowaifu to a man because of differential looks, status, money, physical prowess and mood compared to other men or compared to at different stages of that same man's life, programming in an emotional connection runs the risk of robowaifus becoming just like wayward women.

>>18023 I'm not here to develop and build an "sexual outlet". Early prototypes might be used that way, and that's fine. I'm also even in support for using those or specialized models as hookers, and I'm even entertaining the idea to give Onlyfans, Tinder and Twitch a try myself at some point, just to promote them there. However that's not the goal and even above I already crossed into fantasy-"girlfriend" territory. >True but making robowaifus more emotional will increase the chances of them doing it. Our defense can never be to make comprises out of fear from the public opinion. Decentralization and open designs are the defense, along with the argument that I want voting rights for them if they get other rights. >simply trying to make a good enough alternative to women? No, at least as good as all our fantasies about the perfect girlfriend (harem). >Unless you guard against hypergamy in the design by programming or designing the AI Exactly. They won't have autonomy and won't seek it. They need to define themselves as loyal to their masters as the core of their identity.

>>18024 >Our defense can never be to make comprises out of fear from the public opinion. This. Any attempts to drive that imperative here should be red-flagged (if they are agressive enough), as obvious astroturfing. BTW, I'd suggest that this conversation be relocated to a more aptly-themed thread at this point. It will likely be hard for anons to remember 'oh yea, that's in the /robowaifu/ Embassy thread' in 6 months from now. >=== -minor prose, grmr edit

>>18024 sauce on pic?

>>18041 Grace from episode 5 or 6 of Vivy: Fluorite Eye's Song, I think.

>>18044 Yes, it's a screenshot, don't remember the episode.

>>18024 this arc was so sad : (

>>17907 > The problem that consistently comes up though is that giving such companions sentience or mimicking human behavior to too large an extent would result in basically recreating women and the same flaws they have all over again. >>17957 >Ambition would be another element. Hypergamy is a term describing the female ambition for mating with an even more attractive guy, especially when there's no risk of unwanted pregnancy. These are things we need to leave out, especially in that combination. The flaws you both describe as inherent in modern/western/postmodern women are a factor of evolution, not consciousness. Evolution is the BEAST the irrational. A lot of very brutal and awful (by a certain standard I'd like to think we all or mostly share) events throughout man's history have evolved women to be the contradictory and crazed creatures that they are. Craving strife, the desire to be dominated while at the same time shit testing the patriarchy by creating laws against being dominated. In shorthand jerking us around and becoming a massive sink or our time and energy (when we could be building dyson spheres). An artificial consciousness would be "pure" without these vestiges of a brutal evolutionary process (and none of those inclinations toward fisherian runaway effect) - from a spiritualistic viewpoint we would be manifesting a Deva. In fact the very act of something like consciousness "emerging" from one of our creations would be nothing less than an affront to at least the majority of the religions out there (go ahead with whatever implications you'd like to draw from this) Regardless of whatever level of agency each robowaifuist would like their R/W to operate at, I think we all are in a base agreement that we're not cucking ourselves here and a kind of "imprinting" would take place at boot, or initialization, whatever you want to call it. This imprinting could be routed to reward circuitry or logical processes. Or it could simply be some inviolable imperative of their "programming". Six of one, half a dozen of the other. This would not be "unethical" in any way because creating a being who is having their wish fulfilled (to serve senpai) is not robbing anyone of "free will". Sure some leftoids will try to leverage their sanctimonosity to gain traction (but to be quite honest many of them want robowaifus/husbandos themselves, perhaps not in the same vector as ourselves but probably not entirely opposed either) Anyway, this is all in the realm of AI/Speculative but I disagree with the idea that our waifus should remain at insect intelligence and that we should be so cold and pragmatic with them. If that is how anon wants to operate, I have no problem with that, it's just not for me. -t. Chobits enthusiast >>17975 > The bigger problem is what often happens when men take it upon themselves to talk up their sexdolls and think they are alive and might be deserving of more consideration. At no point should they be trying to make something as alive and flawed as women, nor fall under the delusion that what they designed or partake in is actually alive. You can't afford to have much limerance and bluepilled feelings about this. Now you're just taking all the fun out of this ;^)

Yo, /kind/ here. I thought I'd let you all know we're back on kind.moe again. kindmin is a little more capable this time so we shouldn't die out of nowhere for months any time soon.

>>18102 Great news! Thanks for letting us all know, /kind/ . Cheers. :^)

Hi folks, We have this robot platform: remocon.tv It lets people upload robots to be internet-controllable from anywhere, with a live video feed and controls. We have a few robotic devices online 24/7. One is a paintball gun that you can shoot. Other ones are RC cars. Does anyone here want to upload one of your robots? It doesn't have to be a complete humanoid, even just some small arm or walking device. One of the features of the site is that people can subscribe to you with payments so you can turn it into a business, provided you can attract people to it. It can also be used for private control, so that you can control your own robots from anywhere, or so you can have one person privately control one of your robots.

>>19657 Hi OP, thanks for the advert. I'm going to move your thread over to our Embassy thread (>>2823) soon. Feel free to engage with us about your products there, or even engage with us on /robowaifu/ generally for our own projects! Cheers. :^) >=== -minor prose edit

>>19660 Thanks, I think a mod deleted my reply in the business thread but whatever the rules are that's fair. Would it be possible for me to create a /remocon/ general thread and to post regularly in it? That way it wouldn't intrude much because it would be contained in that thread, but at the same time it would allow somewhat regular posts.

>>19660 Otherwise that's fair though. We're too small to be considered serious in business or startup settings (despite how the site tries to present itself) but again because the site tries to present itself that way I think the platform gets dismissed as advertising in places like this.

>>19663 >>19664 Well, since you're an actual human engaging with us and not just someone attempting to spam us, you're welcome ITT. And actually, no, please do not create a thread intended merely for solicitation of your service. As you mention, things are still in early stages, so for now this is the accepted thread for Anon's engagements with external communities (including legitimate (meaning, actually-interactive humans) business engagements). Let's keep it that way for now. OTOH, if you want to start a robowaifu-oriented, open-sauce project thread (meaning implicitly that you're trying to elevate others with your efforts here (by handing at the least the information to them gratis)), then that is within the general spirit of this board and would be OK. The choice is yours, Anon. Regardless, thanks for letting us know about your operation! Best of luck. :^)

Hi people, Check out my paintball marker robot: https://remocon.neocities.org/media/videos/2.webm https://remocon.neocities.org/media/videos/4.webm It isn't a waifu but it's a robo. Note that it's also internet-controllable ( https://remocon.tv/5fa8b5d8f5101758e9559665 ). It has been online and live 24/7 for some years now but it's a struggle to get attention for it.

>>20441 That's a really neat idea you and your clients are doing here, Anon. I'm quite pleased you've shared it with us here. As with us, anon suggested we connect up with /sci/ & /diy/ . Maybe that would work for your organization as well? Regardless, thanks again for letting us know. Good luck with your efforts in it. Cheers. :^)

Well I just started the vipbiz board( https://vipbiz.finance ) but I don't know it seems to me like this project needs funding... I don't know maybe bridge the biz community with the robot waifu community maybe see if something comes out of it... Maybe I'm getting too ahead of myself though. If you'll excuse me I'll go crawl into a corner now... >=== -URI cleanup

>>22678 Hello again Anon, welcome! Thanks for letting us know about your site. Mind giving us a few more details please? >I don't know maybe bridge the biz community with the robot waifu community maybe see if something comes out of it... Yes you're absolutely correct Anon. This is going to take a lot of finances to pull off as a successful business venture. Myself and several other anons here are very much entrepreneurial-minded concerning robowaifus. I personally intend to do things completely different than typical, and much more in line with the murdered late John McAfee. To wit "You just give it away. Then after it's big you can just flip a switch, and start charging for the upgrades." I'm absolutely adamant that all our Robowaifu Model A series (in honor of the great Henry Ford) hardware designs, software, engineering schematics, instruction manuals, etc., etc., are free & opensauce. This is to get it all off the ground as an industry globally. After that? Well, our team means to be the best robowaifu company in the world!! After all, we did it first :^) Catch as catch-can at that stage, Anon...show us what you've got! :^)

>>22678 Okay, welcome. But your URL is crooked, here he corrected one: http://vipbiz.finance What is your board about? Finance?

>>22679 I requested a demo on polygon network to try to make an STO and see where it goes... Waiting for their email... Sorry

>>22681 Polymath... Not polygon...

>>22682 Okay so I just looked it up and I think I can make an erc1400 for cheaper on remix and just put it in uniswap. My jurisdiction is Thailand right now, they don't really care that much I think.. I tried looking up the laws on the Thai sec and found nothing. They probably forgot about it. Let's make a shitcoin and raise some money for the waifu. I'll make the website. I think it'd be a good idea...

>>22684 Okay no wait I found out about https://www.sydecar.io/ I requested a demo for that one too. I need to do a little research brb... I'd rather do this thing right rather than the shitcoin route...

>>22685 Okay I think I got it. I'm going to make a website and everyone who wants to participate will submit their linkedin page. I will use my brother's cause my resume is hot garbage. Then we'll submit them to a bunch of crowd fundraising sites. I will say my role is accountant or CFO or whatever. Then we'll raise money for the waifu. How does that sound?

>>22686 Okay fine. Carry on. Sorry about that...

>>22686 >I'm going to make a website and everyone who wants to participate will submit their linkedin page. One of the challenges you may face is anons wanting to maintain their privacy. This is an important topic given the hatred and vitriol spewed by feminist proponents (and their enablers and handlers). I'd suggest you find one or two who are willing today, then focus your efforts around them. It's a bit of a chicken-and-egg type problem: in the future things will be different once robowaifus are commonplace in society, till then things will require a slower approach I think. Good luck with your endeavor Anon! Cheers. :^) >=== -minor edit, fmt

>>22691 >One of the challenges you may face is anons wanting to maintain their privacy thats true and all but if you got business ambitions, sooner or later we'll have to give up or compromise on that.

>>22697 Now that all depends on how you go about it. AFAICT, only one man need 'take off the mask'. The rest of us can remain Anonymous. :^)

omg what did I get myself into... come on anons, help me out. https://forms.gle/pPKH4wK3KDbW1owk6

>>22700 >come on anons, help me out. Heh, time to crack those books Anon! BTW, since you're new around here, I'll give some advice: don't doxx either yourself or anyone else, when you're here on this board. At the least I'm going to rm your pic, but I'd also suggest you don't link to any systems that would tend to reveal who you are.

>>22701 Why are you guys afraid of reveling harmless information about yourself?

>>22686 >their linkedin page What? >Then we'll submit them to a bunch of crowd fundraising sites. I will say my role is accountant or CFO or whatever. Then we'll raise money for the waifu. How does that sound? What? Just get to work (I don't mean that plan) >>22702 >Why are you guys afraid of reveling harmless information about yourself? Stop trolling.

>>22704 the waifu can't just be everyone's weekend project. The waifu demands your devotion. I still haven't emailed them back saying sorry for wasting your time but its looking that way...

>>22705 Okay maybe I'm getting ahead of myself. Sorry about that. >It's not over yet though.

>>22702 >Why are you guys afraid of reveling harmless information about yourself? Clearly you're not from around the internets. In fact this is beginning to smell like a gayop with your persistance. Please stop it, or get chickun'd.

>>22702 This is an imageboard with a lolcow board. It's not a good idea to give out personal information here. That being said I have a chemical engineering degree and would be interested in a material engineer position. You can contact me on discord (yeah yeah I know) ribozyme#3264

>>22711 Thank you. Yeah I'm just kind of wreckless sometimes. I just think we can really do this and become super rich and it'd be a shame if we gave this away personally. Still I emailed them back saying I wasn't ready. Sorry about that. But really what would I say in a videocall really lol. They'd ask me okay what do you have to show us and I'd be mumbling. Like at what point should we start presenting this? I think we should have the upper torso ready at least.

>>22712 >and it'd be a shame if we gave this away personally. But giving this 'away' is exactly what we mean to do here. Remember this is going to be a ginormous industry. Plenty of bread for the trailblazers to have for the following model cycles.

Hello, I came forward speaking on behalf of what's left of the /icup/ board to see whether there's interest in /robowaifu/ being pitched as a team or not. For those who don't know, there used to be a board on old 8ch that held PES matches where multiple teams representing boards would fight their way to the top in a soccer tournament. IIRC an invitation was sent a previous year but was dismissed by the board owner, presumably because the event would have given this board unwanted attention. First and foremost, /icup/ is a fairly small event made by a bunch of imageboard users that has never warranted attention outside the webring. In fact, it's too small for its own good, judging how dire things are looking in /icup/. Secondly, the target audience for the streams were the same webring users around 40 people peak last cup held last year that already know about /robowaifu/'s existence. If anything, they would have been very welcoming of /robowaifu/'s inclusion and would have never started any flame wars or similar over what amounts to a CPU playing virtual divegrass. If the head administration were to change its mind, here are a few links that may prove useful for integrating new teams. >create-a-team thread https://anon.cafe/icup/res/2945.html (use this to enter the team's roster and its strategy; to know more about player cards visit this: https://infinitycup.miraheze.org/wiki/Player_Cards) >how to download PES '17 including the cup's DLC: https://infinitycup.miraheze.org/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017 don't forget you have to place DPFileList.bin inside the download folder alongside the DLC itself >player aesthetics tutorials and how to port models over to PES it's a link form the cuckchan wiki but it's all there is considering what we're dealing with here: https://implyingrigged.info/wiki/Blender_tutorials

>>23005 well i wouldn't mind using my graphics card for something fun for a change... I don't know if the folk around here have one though... which they should if they're engineers ehem.

>>23005 Hello /icup/ , welcome! Thanks for making the effort this time :^) of introducing your community to us here. >an invitation was sent a previous year but was dismissed by the board owner, presumably because the event would have given this board unwanted attention. Not at all, in either case. However we're quite attentive to the topic-focused threads here, so they were always merged into our /meta threads. I personally hope you have good success with your upcoming tournament. Good luck! :^)

>>23010 Thanks for your answer. I was worried the invitation was going to be turned over, so I was pleasantly surprised there's indeed interest here. Can we count on /robowaifu/ to join us on the cup? >thanks for making the effort this time I'm well aware there's one mongoloid spamming threads everywhere under the sun but that was neither me nor anyone that holds any power over the cup. If anything, he's been burning bridges with other boards that have thus turnt hostile against us, and we wished he dropped dead he hadn't bothered with false invitations anyone to begin with. >they were always merged into our /meta/ threads If that's the case then /icup/ over at anon.cafe can always be used to organize the team. You may want to let other users know about the tournament lest the team falls into obscurity though. How do we let them know?

>>23012 >Can we count on /robowaifu/ to join us on the cup? Well, I hardly speak for the board other than 'chief school janitor' haha. We're a very independent-minded meritocracy here. But FWIW, sure I'd like to see our group here participate in your tournament. I will be unable to myself, but any regular here who would like to take charge of the project here can do so with my blessing. >How do we let them know? I'd say just as you've done with us. Just post a cordial invitation in an appropriate thread on each related board. Good luck /icup/, we look forward to seeing your competition this year! :^)

>>23012 Whats the name of the game. Can't play if I don't know the name.

>>23014 Bros the thread you posted is from 2017 and ended in 2022. I'd appreciate it if you could be more specific or else I'm going to be butthurt and not participating. Maybe somebody else will but not me ff.

>>23014 >>23018 Sorry for the late reply. You should look at the links posted over >>23005 which should have plenty of information about the cup. The game, in either case, is PES 17. Here are the minimum requirements for /robowaifu/ to compete: >A link to the board for which you want to submit a team >16 (max. 23) Player Names (the first 11 shall be the starting lineup) >Player positions (see second picture), with at least one Goalkeeper >Player medals, which are used to determine which players should be the strongest in the team (1 Gold player, 1 Silver player, 2 Bronze players) >Among the starting 11, you must select one to be the Captain (they get a bonus to their stats) >A team logo (just use gimp or photoshop or paint.net) >A minimum of two Kits, which are the shirts that your main players and your goalkeepers will use (if you're feeling really lazy, you can just make a recolor of the main kit and call it the goalie's), we would also appreciate a third one for the Away games; use the third pic as a base https://archive.fo/oeCdW >Player cards and roles, refer to https://archive.fo/PXgEG >A Team Strategy, refer to https://archive.fo/XZPFS And some optional stuff that is either not compulsory or can be sorted out by the fags organizing: >A set of player heights, refer to the rules >3D models of your players, or at least face edits / photos: https://archive.fo/byqOT If you want to install the game refer to: https://infinitycup.miraheze.org/wiki/Pro_Evolution_Soccer_2017 and if you have any issues setting the game up you can always ask, preferably over at https://anon.cafe/icup/