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/robowaifu/meta-9: Wintertime will be sublime. Chobitsu Board owner 10/30/2023 (Mon) 00:42:15 No.26137
/meta, offtopic, & QTDDTOT >--- General /robowaifu/ team survey (please reply ITT) (>>15486) >--- Mini-FAQ >A few hand-picked posts on various /robowaifu/-related topics -Why is keeping mass (weight) low so important? (>>4313) -How to get started with AI/ML for beginners (>>18306) -"The Big 4" things we need to solve here (>>15182) -HOW TO SOLVE IT (>>4143) -Why we exist on an imageboard, and not some other forum platform (>>15638, >>17937) -This is madness! You can't possibly succeed, so why even bother? (>>20208, >>23969) -All AI programming is done in Python. So why are you using C++ here? (>>21057, >>21091) -How to learn to program in C++ for robowaifus? (>>18749, >>19777) -How to bulk-download AI models from huggingface.co ? (>>25962, >>25986) >--- -Library thread (good for locating terms/topics) (>>7143) >note: There's a simple searching tool coded right here for /robowaifu/ that provides crosslinks straight to posts on the board. It's named Waifusearch, and the link to the latest code should always be maintained within the Library thread's OP & also on the current /meta. -Latest version of Waifusearch v0.2a (>>8678) >note: We periodically release the full archive of the board's thread's JSON files. This is useful for robowaifu researchers in general, and is explicitly relied-upon by Waifusearch. -Latest version of /robowaifu/ JSON archives v221213 Dec 2022 https://files.catbox.moe/6rhjl8.7z if you use Waifusearch, just extract these JSON files into your 'all_jsons' directory for the program, then quit (q) and restart. >note: There's an archiving tool coded right here for /robowaifu/ that provides the ability to backup locally the posts & files from our board. It's named BUMP, and is basically a custom IB scraper. -Latest version of BUMP v0.2g (>>14866) >--- >note: There's a design document for the specification of general design and engineering choices for our basic Robowaifu Reference Model A Series (TBD). Please have a look at it, and collaborate together with us on it ITT Anon. -Robowaifu Design Document (>>3001) >--- >useful external resources wAIfu-collective's AI guide - https://rentry.org/waifu-diy-ai >--- -previous /meta's : (>>38) (>>3108) (>>8492) (>>12974) (>>15434) (>>18173) (>>20356) (>>23415) >=== -edit subj -minor fmt
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I am an avid programmer and seasoned sysadmin and I remember this board a few months ago and kinda forgot about it, but now I after being depressed for fairly long I kind of feel euphoric about everything, now that I have seen this board again. I want to dedicate my life to a hard and costly project like an actual robowaifu, that I can cuddle and speak with. I don't know, but I am kinda glad i came across this. I hope this board isn't completely dead and that there are people still lurking. I have some knowledge on bare metal/embedded C and Assembly programming for microcontrollers like Arduino, C, Assembly and Python are my main languages, sometimes I do bash or ksh too. I am knowledgeable about OpenBSD internals and I am currently learning Ruby. If you want any help from me, I am here to contribute and mainly learn from people who actually know what they are doing! Even if this space should be dead, which I hope is not, I would create a forum dedicated to this, but as I am not very deep into that topic that kind of seems silly from today's point of view, but again, if this place is still active, I'll rather stick to here. See ya!
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I read through my comment again and it kinda sounds like I am boasting about the little I know, but I just wanted to make you know where you could hit me up if you had questions or wanted me to contribute.
Welcome back anon
Welcome. You can either try to work on some elements of the AI first or since you probably want a physical entity, look into the topics around mechanics first. I'd start with looking into threads like >>374 >>366 >>200 and prototyping >>18800 Generally, use the the catalog: https://alogs.space/robowaifu/catalog.html
>>26030 Welcome, and remember, you're here forever.
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Can you interact with the N-Field desu? On a serious note, this post belongs in the Meta thread. Please move it to this thread: >>12974 (This thread will then be pruned, unless you wish to alter it to something more substantial than an introduction.)
Hello Anon, welcome! Skills in ASM & C are quite valuable here, as you might imagine for hard/soft -realtime systems programming work such as the C&C systems robowaifus will need. Also, Arduino is very popular for prototyping work -- particularly for smol embedded, auxiliary, networked onboard devices. And Python & system scripting is valuable for general computing environments (such as home servers/clusters used for offlined robowaifu computational-boosting). In general, I'd invite you to a) join our C++ Learning thread (>>19777), or b) take over our Embedded Programming (C) thread (>>367), or c) both. --- BTW, can you make some suggestions how we can extend your thread's OP with a more general appeal -- suited to all newcomers -- so we can continue to maintain this as a separate thread in our catalog here? TIA. :^) >=== -prose edit
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>>25906 I hope you made good on your efforts to download many models Anon. They may become an endangered 'species' soon. >
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>>26162 I've got roughly 5TB downloaded so far, not counting the contents of one drive that I took out early because it's failing. The actual download speeds have slowed down, however. I suspect that it's an automatic reaction to bulk scrapers like me. This won't stop me, of course, but it does slow things down a bit. If any of you have the available storage space, I'd recommend cycling through some of the scripts I made yourselves ( >>25986 is the current script pack ) while you still can. There's no way I'll be able to get all of this on my own.
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Heh, maybe baste El Salvador will become the robowaifu mecca of the Western hemisphere now?
>>26162 Newfag here, now I don’t wanna sound like some doomer but do you guys honestly think we will have something good in these coming years? I’m already 30 and I don’t expect anything in my lifetime
>>26172 Hello Anon, welcome! >do you guys honestly think we will have something good in these coming years? Yes of course! This has taken years of research so far, and we still have years to go. One of the limiting factors is kit construction costs for anons. We want basic Model A robowaifu kits to be reasonably inexpensive. In effect, this important goal actually delays quicker outcomes. But thankfully the hardest part by far (the software) will basically be free as in speech, and free as in beer for the end-user anons. This is a big deal towards our eventual success as a movement. Another limiting factor is lack of financing. I'm personally a starving student right now, but if I had even US$1M of disposable finance today then the entire world would have opensauce, functional robowaifus within 1 year from today. The fact that I refuse to get bent over a barrel and kowtow to some greedy corporate interest is the general time-limiting factor for me personally ATM. Greedy people always want more, and if you refuse and take the position that the first basic robowaifus should be entirely opensauce (both S/W & H/W), then in general they refuse to help you out (even if they like the basic idea itself). A 1:1 repayment scheme would be fine with me though. >tl;dr We'll likely eventually go with a crowdfunding approach to create the first functional robowaifus. :^) >I’m already 30 and I don’t expect anything in my lifetime Then crack those books Anon!! Be the future you want to see. The sooner you help us out here with some good work, the sooner we'll all get finished and begin enjoying our robowaifu lifestyles together! Same goes for every other anon, BTW. Cheers. :^) >=== -prose edit
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>>26172 >honestly think we will have something good in these coming years? Yes, but it depends what you mean with good. Don't suspect cheap bipedal dolls walking around and doing all the chores at home. >I’m already 30 and I don’t expect anything in my lifetime This is quite silly. You might have missed the news on the current state of technology. EDIT: *walking instead of working
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Hey /robowaifu/, what is your preferred alternative currency to fiat? I have recently acquired some silver and I think I'm going to pick up stacking as a hobby. Also, does anyone else here stack? How is /robowaifu/'s crypto going?
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So, I'm currently not posting here so much, since I found my codes to get my Discord account restored and have to fastread through a few month of stuff. Also, I can finally sign up to all the services requiring doing this through Discord. I did make some progress on pattern matching with Python. I sketched out a way to go through inputs and extract information and have a response to it. It has to get far better, and more complex, and extending itself at some point. But the basic idea seems to work out. At least good enough to cover many inputs, so not all of them need to go into an LLM and the responses can be way faster. I also want to parse the responses coming from the models, so she can understand what she's saying. The short explanation is, the program looks in different ways on parts of a sentence and then tries to make sense of what was meant. I also had to further refresh my Python skills, learn more about it, and look into new build in options and new developments. It works well, using YouTube and ChatGPT. >>26212 I have some Bitcoin, which I got fairly early. I also want to buy some Gold and Silver coins one day, if it isn't too late. It would also be a pain to move with this every time, especially changing the country. Having a place for oneself, and being prepared for global fluctuations in standards of living is more important than just having such precious metals.
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>>26212 >Hey /robowaifu/, what is your preferred alternative currency to fiat? Monero >Also, does anyone else here stack? More focused on studying how to create robowaifus for the whole wide world right now to focus much on collecting stones by the way. :^) > >>26214 That sounds really good NoidoDev. I wish you good success in your research.
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>>26212 >stacking I had to look up what that means. I'm pretty passive when it comes to collecting silver, I'll just pick up a few coins here and there if the price is good. Also, don't underestimate the value of coin grade silver. People get so anal about their silver being 9.99% more pure than what's readily available around most of the world, so it's much easier to find coin grade (and sterling, for that matter) for dirt cheap if you look around enough. The only thing I'm worried about stacking right now is terabytes of AI models. Bitches don' even kno about deez WD Purples, shiiiieeeeet. I'll stack 'em to the ceiling and rap about it or sumthin'.
>>26227 >dat pic+filename Kek. Drive on GTA! :D >=== -minor edit
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>>26172 I'm 45, don't let it bother you too much You can either grind or lie down and rot That's all it really boils down to fyi The acceleration may make "old age" considerations obsolete, if you're among those who have access to and can afford the treatments
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This winter will be interesting. I have a lot to talk about but not all of it I feel comfortable putting on here where it is accessible by the public and likely indexed by G**gle. However I will be collaborating IRL with another prominent dev in the scene whose focus is VR waifus (IYKYK) given this development, it follows that we may be at the threshold of actual IRL collaboration beyond just sharing ideas and docs online. I know there is a sentiment against making this a larger movement or operation beyond anons in their garage - however I think we've experienced much growth in communication, development and clarification/refinement of our goals, ideas and processes through the channels we've build outside of this IB. It is my belief that moving things into IRL collaborations and meetups will take it to yet another level beyond. That is all for now, just wanted to drop by and let you (Chobitsu) know I am still alive and motivated by our larger project and purpose. I am always near, even if quiet on here
>>26234 That's exciting to hear Meta Ronin (welcome back, BTW). >I know there is a sentiment against making this a larger movement or operation beyond anons in their garage Ehh, I'd say that (at least for my part) the concept of keeping a low profile/hiding your power level/don't doxx yourself is first and foremost aimed at keeping newcomers from harming themselves before they come to realize the evil nature of the groups we're in direct opposition to. If you're a grown man with some wisdom, then of course take your destiny into your own hands! :^) >>26233 >I'm 45, Please don't be a stranger Anon, please communicate with us. With your age the board can use your advice and guidance! Cheers. :^)
>>26219 I thought crypto was dead by now. Anyone still mine them? I mean, nothing actually came out of Monero or cryptocurrency as a whole, we still don't have our anonymous, non-taxable, parallel economy.
>>26237 It's not just about mining crypto. It can be used to get higher gains than in many other investments, it can be used to donate, being more independent from banks, though not completely. For many it's probably just a insurance if things somewhat go down, also it's about not needing to support the money creation of the central banks and risking to be one of the victims when things crash. Can happen in crypto as well, but I don't think Bitcoin is riskier than being invested in "the economy" right now.
>>26238 All of those are moot points when every crypto, including Monero is backed by the dollar anyway. And Bitcoin is by far the wrost of the cryptocurrencies there is.
>>26252 >'backed' Seems rather an odd way of looking at things, friend. You can exchange crypto in any currency that an exchange can get away with. And Monero is a good choice for better privacy, not necessarily because it's superior to BTC.
>>26237 The purpose of crypto seem to be smart contracts and blockchains. Everything else is make believe pseudo revolutionism
Simple model of a doll, with some spandex skin, a cute (but rather adult looking) silicone face, and implanted hair would be good enough for some guys, who just want to cuddle.
>>26088 >The company told me to learn UiPath. Then do just that, Anon. I don't believe they would have even given you that much of a bone if they weren't open to bringing you onboard once you've amped your skillset. I mean after all, they actually gave you your first shot right? Imagine how many applicants never go that far. https://www.uipath.com/rpa/academy
>>10487 With future releases, please put the build instructions and requirements in some README file, so that we don't have to find and look through some old thread. Thanks. I used this here, which seem to have worked on my Raspi a while ago, since I didn't report back after the comment above: > g++ main.cpp -O3 -ljsoncpp -lstdc++fs -Wno-psabi -o waifusearch And it didn't work. The error messages are so plenty, I can't even scroll to the beginning and "| head" doesn't work. This is the last part: [/code]/usr/bin/ld: /tmp/cclgUXd0.o: in function `void tbb::detail::d1::fold_tree<tbb::detail::d1::tree_node>(tbb::detail::d1::node*, tbb::detail::d1::execution_data const&)': main.cpp:(.text._ZN3tbb6detail2d19fold_treeINS1_9tree_nodeEEEvPNS1_4nodeERKNS1_14execution_dataE[_ZN3tbb6detail2d19fold_treeINS1_9tree_nodeEEEvPNS1_4nodeERKNS1_14execution_dataE]+0x2b): undefined reference to `tbb::detail::r1::deallocate(tbb::detail::d1::small_object_pool&, void*, unsigned long, tbb::detail::d1::execution_data const&)' /usr/bin/ld: main.cpp:(.text._ZN3tbb6detail2d19fold_treeINS1_9tree_nodeEEEvPNS1_4nodeERKNS1_14execution_dataE[_ZN3tbb6detail2d19fold_treeINS1_9tree_nodeEEEvPNS1_4nodeERKNS1_14execution_dataE]+0x63): undefined reference to `tbb::detail::r1::notify_waiters(unsigned long)' collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status [/code] Meson log (shorted): Command line: `c++ /<SOMEPATH>/RobowaifuBoard/WaifuSearch/waifusearch-0.2a/build/meson-private/tmpoqf7uh76/testfile.cpp -o /<SOMEPATH>/RobowaifuBoard/WaifuSearch/waifusearch-0.2a/build/meson-private/tmpoqf7uh76/output.obj -c -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -O0 -fpermissive --print-search-dirs` -> 0 stdout: install: /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/13.2.1/ programs: ...<CUTDOWN> linux-gnu/13.2.1/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/lib/:/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/13.2.1/../../../:/lib/:/usr/lib/ ----------- WARNING: Running the setup command as `meson [options]` instead of `meson setup [options]` is ambiguous and deprecated.
>>26412 OK, my apologies NoidoDev (and everyone else who may have run into this but didn't report it). I'll take a look at this and try to improve things with the improvements already intended. Most likely, this will be near or on the Christmas school break timeframe. For now, I'll try to drop another patched version that hopefully will get you going sometime this week. That command was a bit of a hack that was needed as the GCC hadn't completed their C++17 filesystem library at the time I wrote that. Today that works fine w/o all the hoops, so it will probably fix your problem. Stay tuned Anon.
>>26413 Lol, sorry for such wonky writing r/n. Hopefully it's understandable enough. :P
>>26412 BTW, can you give me a hint what OS you're on Anon? I'll find the proper TBB install package for you to be able to use threads.
>>26413 Thanks for your efforts. It's not super urgent, I just felt the pressure to install it on my PC when I wanted to look for a video today, which I had no idea where it was posted and discussed. >>26415 I'm on an Arch based Linux distro.
I'm hovering around the 10TB mark with my scraping, and I'd like to give you all your daily reminder to scrub or destroy any drives containing sensitive data before getting rid of them, and always use full disk encryption where possible. Unless you happen to throw away your tech at the same place I pick it up, I won't erase that data for you. I realize that you guys should know better, but some of the organizations that used to own these should really know better.
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>>26419 yeah modern drives are basically permanent thanks to wear leveling, best you can do is encrypt it so you dont have to care
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>>26419 if you don't mind me asking, what kind of stuff did you find on there? Personal stuff? >>26423 Could you get around that by physically destroying the drives?
>>26418 OK, ty for the heads-up nevertheless. Cheers. >>26419 >I'm hovering around the 10TB mark with my scraping Awesome! Good going Greentext anon. Thanks for the good advice about privacy/security. Much appreciated. Cheers.
>>26424 if you destroy the actual flash chips yeah, if you just break the board they could just remove the flash chips and read them individually, in theory at least, no one is going to be that autistic unless its a criminal investigation or something
>>26419 Thanks for the reminder. I assume you're advocating for full disk encryption because these modern drives store the data in a way that makes simple deletion insufficient? I recall datasafes having issues with SSDs and such, I'm still using HDDs for a lot, but got a bit sloppy with encryption after loosing some data. I started using GoCyryptfs containers, though.
>>26424 Sometimes I'll skim the directory structure out of morbid curiosity, but I never look at the files themselves (in addition to feeling a bit too creepy, I don't want to risk seeing something I can't unsee). Knowing where the drives come from is enough to tell me what's on there, anyways. In addition to typical consumer stuff, some of the drives comes from organizaions that handle other people's sensitive data. Financial data, medical data, security footage (hence why I have WD purples), the like. As I said, people who should know better. >>26430 Actually, I've never even used a data recovery program before, so I couldn't say. Most of the drives I get haven't been cleaned at all, even through simple deletion. The way I see it, the problem isn't so much with modern technology and forensics, but that the most basic steps aren't even being taken to protect data in the first place. Frankly, I think every modern OS should come with encryption enabled by default. Sure, it's slightly less convenient and people will complain about that, but so few people truly understand the price of convenience until they've been made to pay it. That, and people need to start learning that Linux isn't the complicated mess they think it is and start adopting it. If anything, Windows has been more complicated for a while, even for basic tasks. I was trying to change the screen resolution for one of my family members because it was too low, and I kept having to use the search function because I literally could not figure out how to navigate the labyrinthian mess that is the Windows 11 control panel. It took me ten minutes to do in Windows what I could do on Mint in ten seconds.
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I've said before in other threads that I don't want my waifu to have internet access for security reasons, and I'd rather transfer files into her manually. I was thinking if it could ingest document data like PrivateGPT, that would be good enough for most of my needs. I'm fine with her needing to learn most physical things from trial and error alone, because I fully intend on building her myself instead of expecting something working right out of a box. Plain text, pictures, audio & videos are all easy enough to manually review, for the most part. But body movement/coordination with non-standardized hardware design, or more complex and abstract data may be more difficult to share safely. This got me wondering what exactly most men would want their waifu to know/do (besides fucking) and just how much of it could easily come pre-packaged.
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>>26434 Some medical knowledge would be very desireable for men who need it. For instance, if you have a severe allergy, having a waifu who knows how to administer an epi-pen would be life saving. Concerning more mundane day to day tasks, I think the best method would be to give basline technical knowledge, and have her learn practical specifics on-site. Let's use doing the laundry as an example. Certain things, such as the various symbols used on clothing tags (and how to tell what an article of clothing probably needs if there isn't a tag, by looking at the material properties and what the item is used for), could be built-in fairly easily I imagine. But what about using the actual washer and dryer (assuming the user even has both)? No two washers or dryers are built equally. They may have different load capacities, different settings, and different control schemes. Being able to read the manual can be helpful, however far too many companies have forgotten how to make decent manuals. Also, these machines may perform differently depending on how old they are, or if any parts need to be or already were replaced.
>>26433 While people really don't like adapting to a new UI, no matter how much better it might be than what they're used to. And even though Windows has pretty bad UD, Linux is even worse because of how much it can force you to use the command line. And while learning a new GUI might be a chore, it's nowhere near as much of a burden as learning a new command line. And the only way I could see people actually going back to typing as the primary way to use a computer is if command lines incorporate LLMs so you don't need to remember very much. This is a great video on GUI and he goes into hotkeys about 35 minutes in and about 1 hour in mentions Linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AItTqnTsVjA And one of the most important things to remember is that the GUI is NOT the OS. You can change UI on just about any OS, so what really separates them is what's going on under the hood, and if you can get past the UI of Linux, the real problem is the lack of support for Windows software, (especially videogames) which is a big part of the reason why people don't want to switch over.
>>26434 The real issue is gonna be that you might want your waifu to be inform you about what's going on in the world, give you a summary, have some chitchat, or only tell you what you need to know. This will require access to a news feed. We will certainly find ways to share data for procedures securely. This can be in a human readable file format and can be checked by parsers and any huge LLM for dangerous elements.
>>26436 Ehh, command line is a command line. The UNIX paradigm clearly won, just standardize on that and everyone wins, Anon. >which is a big part of the reason why people don't want to switch over. That's actually the only real issue at hand. Linux is pretty clearly way ahead of Wangblows in most respects that are important to us here. Things like not literally bragging they directly report to the US' NSA. >tl;dr M$ is an incredibly-evil company today. Run, not walk, as far away from them as fast as you can.
>>26434 >>26435 >>26439 >The real issue is gonna be that you might want your waifu to be inform you about what's going on in the world, give you a summary, have some chitchat, or only tell you what you need to know. This will require access to a news feed. This. < "Sumomo-chan, find some good bathing software!" :^) We're working towards a 'cyber airlock' type system for vetted data access/security to the outside world. A. The robowaifu will never have direct access to the outside networks (permanently air-gapped). B. Her docking/charging/storage station (Dollhouse) will provide a deadrop-style mechanism (again, also air-gapped) for requesting pulls of data from the outside networks. C. The Curator subsystems makes a deadrop pull-request asynchronously to the station; it thereafter asynchronously picks up the return deadrop data following the successful delivery+vetting+filtering by the station's Mailbox systems; * these request/retrievals are performed through a physical-lockout apparatus -- kind of like an A-B-C rotary electrical connector -- where only one circuit pathway (data circuit pathways, in this case) at a time is physically feasible; * Curator then provides that retrieved data to the robowaifu's cognitive ghost in a way that is strictly sandboxed & read-only against her inboard systems. Effectively, this entire process is intentionally managed outboard the robowaifu; who, again, never directly connects to the network. --- >deadrop For clarity, I mean this idea: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_dead_drop and tangential to this idea: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_drop >cf. : * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sneakernet * (>>14409) >=== -prose edit -add 'Dead_drop', etc. hotlinks -add 'bathing software' funpost example
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>>26439 >This will require access to a news feed. I can read the news myself. I can simply tell her about what's going on. She doesn't need to be the one to tell me. >This can be in a human readable file format and can be checked by parsers and any huge LLM for dangerous elements. If I'm going to read it myself anyway, then why bother? >>26445 >The UNIX paradigm clearly won, just standardize on that and everyone wins, Anon. I'd really, really just rather use GUI. As would most people. >That's actually the only real issue at hand. The only reason I'm using Windows 10 right now instead of Linux is because I installed Linux on my desktop shortly before I had a problem with my ISP and ended up with no internet for nearly a month. My laptop still had Win 10 & I took it with me to the library when I needed to do shit online. I figured I'd make my desktop experience more tolerable by downloading the installers for any Linux-versions of the Win 10 software I use & whatever Linux alternatives I could find for the rest, (which turned out to be a majority of them) then put them on a flash drive. I couldn't find any installers for anything, or couldn't figure out how to use them on Linux, my options seemed to be either connect to the internet directly or go fuck myself. I haven't touched Linux again since.
>>26451 There seems little point in discussing it with you Anon, your mind's made up it seems. You certainly make things next to impossible for the DIY ethos we're all about here by taking such an adamant position against the primary open-source OS in the world r/n. HOWEVER... the plan is eventually to release kits & fully-constructed robowaifus for the general male audience. That is, not much by way of 'do-it-yourself' will be required. So you won't have to teach yourself tech stuff to assemble/buy your own -- if you wait you'll still be able to obtain one in the end. Cheers. :^) >=== -prose edit
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>>26452 Take it from me, people will never listen to anyone peddling Linux unless they feel like they have no other choice. Funnily enough, that's even how I switched. When got my first Windows 8 computer, I was so uncomfortable with the Microsoft account stuff they were pushing that I jumped ship the very same day. I didn't even know how bad it really was, I didn't even know computers a fraction as well as I do now. I just had a feeling, and that was enough for me. I saw Mint and figured it wouldn't be too difficult to figure out, since it was a GUI and looked similar. Funnily enough, I was right for the most part. The learning curve was pretty shallow, and the user experience was great even then, Even now, I'll shill Mint because of how much I fell in love with it. I even once made an entire graphic presentation spelling out how unbelievably easy to use Mint is, including pointing out that the terminal doesn't need to be used for anything, and outlining how to install a few popular programs (again, all through GUI). I'm pretty sure it convinced nobody. They'll just stick to their trench until a shell drops that forces them to realize just how fucked the Windows experience really is, and how much better it'd be if they just stepped over to the greener grass.
>>26453 >Even now, I'll shill Mint because of how much I fell in love with it. It was my first Linux and I too will wholeheartedly recommend it for the beginners. They have great IRC support as well. I use Manjaro for the most part for my own stuff outside of school (they use macOS, which while I loath A*ple, I have to admit is a pretty good normie platform all things considered). Once Gunship convinced me to try OpenBSD, I'm pretty convinced about it. Not sure how everything will end up with our robowaifu OS needs, but certainly there is much great code to draw from in OpenBSD. >They'll just stick to their trench until a shell drops that forces them As our friend mentions, the terminal is a stumbling block for many. Ehh, I guess that's OK too. I've never taken to Vim even today other than it's ever-present convenience. When I'm doing real development work I still go with juCI++. My hope is that we'll manage to create a real RWOS using a hypervisor + #include<OS> . I don't think we're likely to find a solution that's more stable or closer to the metal. (>>203, ...)
>>26439 >Waifu connected to the Internet I'm too schizo that mate. >>26446 >We're making air gapped robots I'm designing a system that can connect as NoidoDev wants. You are right but, there's huge demand for Internet related functionality. We won't use this functionality, doesn't mean it isn't useful for the average Anon. It's easy to set up an RSS feed with a TTS to give her an Alexa comparable application. >Server to scrape only necessary data Do you mean giving her a DMZ? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMZ_(computing) >>26453 >No other choice Correct, Linux is objectively correct. Being comfortable changes nothing. (Ubuntu Studio with some customization for Windows compatibility.)
>>26455 >there's huge demand for Internet related functionality. Yeah, so please don't misunderstand me. The whole point of this type design effort is just that: to allow Sumomo-chan your robowaifu to freely find great bathing software search, across the Intertubes by whatever external means desired. The results are simply distilled down into an innocuous format safe for her to peruse; via software/hardware means difficult to haxxor from without. Safety first! :^) >Do you mean giving her a DMZ? It does act much like a DMZ concept at the outermost tip of the chain, but I'm talking about something much more robust & glownigger-like (think Ethan Hunt breaking into the CIA) -- that can still be implemented pretty cheaply (~US$35), given the free implementation software, 3D-printing, and ready access to simple electronics/parts supplies. >tl;dr Think 'Neo meets Terry Davis'. :D >=== -prose edit -add funpost
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>>26455 >>26456 I will only be manufacturing airgapped Waifus
>>26446 ah just saw this beat me to it. I had proposed something like a "data link" that she must hard-connect to but that is firewalled and scanned in real time. I like your dead-drop idea as it's even more secure
>>26439 Have the data scanned, "textised" and the text only read/shown to her Similar to www.textise.net except there is an airgap no direct data connection
>>26457 >>26458 >>26459 Yep. For the truly paranoid, we could design a ~US$100 optical-fiber based, opaque, optical headset she can simply wear to block external surveillance of any type (b/c no external EM radiation) for both her 'sends' & 'receives'. >kind of like 2B's eyescarf. :^) >I like your dead-drop idea as it's even more secure The key feature that makes this work so well is the physical-lockout. Of course an actual USB stick isn't necessary, merely some basic memory chips to temporarily cache the requests/data as it transforms through the 3 different circuits on it's way to becoming harmless to our robowaifus.
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>>26452 >You certainly make things next to impossible for the DIY ethos we're all about here by taking such an adamant position against the primary open-source OS in the world r/n. I think my biggest problem is really that I expected a lot more customizability than what I was able to get. And from what I'd read Ubuntu seemed to be the best choice, or at least easiest choice for someone switching over from Windows. I was probably wrong on that front. And the fact that I felt like it was forcing me to connect to the internet really made me want a better alternative. I know it's basically just a meme, but Terry A. Davis said that Linux wants to be a 1970's mainframe, and that the people developing for it are pretty much stuck in that mindset, and it really feels that way with how even with Ubuntu (which I thought was supposed to be a noob-friendly Linux) I'm still being strong-armed into using command line to get shit done. I never really thought too much about GUI until a few years ago when I saw that video, aside from occasionally wishing to do shit faster. I'm more of a hardware guy, but AI is getting better at coding all the time. I was hoping that 10 to 15 years from now I'd have a PC with some TempleOS fork on it, and use AI to help rewrite it, giving it a good GUI, better hardware support, & better file type support, while retaining the fast lightweight code without any of those limitations Terry put on it. Maybe I'd eventually have AI on it & eventually the OS would improve & optimize itself. >>26453 I'll give Mint a try later.
>>26457 >>26460 Proud of your schizo level. The glowies can't get you if they can't see you! Bonus points for wrapping her bread box in a faraday cage! >>26461 >Fearing the command line Be not afraid On a serious note, I'd like to get an updated idea of what Anons want in a minimum viable waifu. 1. Minimum height? 2. Minimum weight? 3. Essential features? 4. Preferred number on scale? Why? 5. Favorite robot girl? Why? 6. What do you want to do with your waifu on an average day?
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>>26464 >The glowies can't get you if they can't see you! This. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOwaYDKEkqk >Bonus points for wrapping her bread box in a faraday cage! < Not living all day, erry day with your robowaifus inside a smol metal box > shiggy :^) >want in a minimum viable waifu. Well you know me Kiwi. That's also a time-based question as well (since we're on this long journey together to the animu-becomes-real futurer, AKA: Advancing robotics to a point where anime catgrill meidos in tiny miniskirts are a reality. :DD For now, and for starters, just a headpat-daughteru such as Sumomo-chan is my personal goal. >1. Minimum height? Roughly 14" to 24" >2. Minimum weight? Seems like that should be maximum weight too? I'd guess about 25lbs maybe? >3. Essential features? Cute 'screensaver' dancing mode, ability to search for good bathing software, and able to print things with a pencil. :DD Basically the things the Sumomo-chan character can do (only more realistic for today), adapted over to her more-realistic size/weight constraints. >4. Preferred number on scale? Why? #5, simply b/c that's what's realistic ATM. In the future #1 ofc! :^) >5. Favorite robot girl? Why? Chii-chan. Because she's wholesome, innocent, and can do cool floaty tricks! :^) Actually I relish the idea of watching/helping a robowaifu grow from a girl-like mind to a woman-like mind. Chii's story roughly follows that arc. Also, a cute! >6. What do you want to do with your waifu on an average day? "Let me count the ways..." Thanks for the questions Kiwi. How's your thinking about the MaidCom project today?
>>26465 >Seems like that should be maximum weight too? I'd guess about 25lbs maybe? Well, Jenny from My Life As A Teenage Robot is 6'6 and 600-pounds, but she might have been exaggerating her weight. The T-800 in Terminator: Dark Fate is about 6'2" and 400 lbs.'' >>26464 >6. What do you want to do with your waifu on an average day? Sex.
>>26471 >Well, Jenny from My Life As A Teenage Robot is 6'6 and 600-pounds, but she might have been exaggerating her weight. The T-800 in Terminator: Dark Fate is about 6'2" and 400 lbs.'' You're conflating fiction with reality. The weight of gynoids in some story doesn't matter, the real weight much more so. >Woke Fate I assume no one here even watched this. You could've re-watched parts of TSCC or Turbo Kid in the same time: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wzYVLShwHY
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>>26464 >Minumum height? Assuming quadrupedal pone chassis I'd have to say 20". >Minimum weight? I don't imagine that'll be a problem, but let's say 25lbs (carrying her won't be all that satisfying if she has no weight, after all). Maximum weight, on the other hand, I'd place at 150lbs. >Essential features? I'll cut out the software-only side of things since that can be handled by a server: Motorized self-articulation, sight, hearing, speech, cuteness, strategically placed hole, basic pressure/touch sensors in the hooves, and networking (so she can connect to the server). >Preferred number on the scale? It's complicated. I'm good with anything but six (too impractical). >Favorite robot girl? The one I'm going to make. >What do you want to do with your waifu on an average day? I'll stop myself before I come up with a massive ten post long list, and instead say: Basically everything I can. I'd want to include her in pretty much every aspect of my life, and explore new things with her.
>>26524 >I'll stop myself before I come up with a massive ten post long list, NEEDS MOAR MASSIVE TEXTS :^) Sure looking forward to your next posts about your project in our prototypes thread Greentext anon. You were at concepts w/ some design work. How's that all coming along? Cheers. :^)
>>26526 Yeah, some things came up IRL (most affecting being a drastic change to my sleep/work schedule) and I couldn't put as much attention into making Orchid. It's given me time to think when I wasn't struggling to stay awake though. I think I've been trying to focus on too many aspects of the design at once, so I'm going to try and break up the tasks as I go forward. My current line of thinking is that I'll keep with the "frame first" philosophy, but work from the hooves up (literally) instead of trying to figure out the whole frame at once. To accomplish this, my intention is to do what I was about to do before and come up with final(-ish) measurements for Orchid's total size. From this, I'll come up with the size that her hooves should be, then finalize the design and make them. Once the hooves are built and ready, I'll move to the legs, then the shoulders, then the torso, then the head. Once the inner frame is complete, I'll work on the remote motor controls that I mentioned before ( >>25533 ) and wire everything up. Then, finally, I'll stitch up the outer frame. Much like an orchid, Orchid shall start as a seed planted on the ground, then grow up and blossom out. Expect my next post to mostly be about the hooves, along with some gassing on about porportions and measurements.
>>26517 >You're conflating fiction with reality. The weight of gynoids in some story doesn't matter, the real weight much more so. Due to fiction people don't really bat an eye at a humanoid robot weighing several hundred pounds more than a human of the same size. And the only reason I could see that not being the case with a real robot girl is because that would require more power than a lighter robot. Otherwise, I don't really see a reason why there'd need to be a minimum or a maximum weight. >I assume no one here even watched this. I recently watched through all of the Terminator movies. It peaked at the first one.
>>26534 > I don't really see a reason why there'd need to be a minimum or a maximum weight. I assume this is about how it would feel carrying her and how much guys would trust themselves to handle her. Either way, I'm sure the question is only relevant in regards to a real gynoid and not fiction. >I recently watched through all of the Terminator movies. It peaked at the first one. I thought the second one was really good and is considered by many as the peak, I like both of them but it has been a while. Some of the later ones also have also good moments and are watchable, but have more and more bad parts. I think I'm gonna watch Terminator Salvation again in some time, though I doubt I have the time. Generally I like the tv show the most, because Cameron is kinda fascinating.
>>26527 Excellent information Anon. >from the hooves up I too have come to the revelation that achieving bipedal-locomotion capabilites for our robowaifus of all sizes may simply entail us starting the design/manufacturing/programming literally from the ground up: beginning simply with one foot. Looking forward to when you pick back up again, please move quickly as you are able to! Cheers. :^) >>26540 >because Cameron is kinda fascinating. She really is tbh.
>>26527 saw this just now, might interest you, the legs are pretty simple four legs seems a lot less complicated than making something that has to stand up right
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>>26527 saw this just now, might interest you, the legs are pretty simple, four legs seems a lot less complicated than making something that has to stand up right
>>26540 >I assume this is about how it would feel carrying her and how much guys would trust themselves to handle her. The first robowaifu I think that her weight would be a byproduct of other things that are far more important, hence my comment about a heavier robot requiring more power than a lighter robot. I can lift 60 pounds over my head without much effort, but wouldn't want the same amount of weight resting entirely on my face. A 600 pound robowaifu could walk around my apartment just fine, and the furniture might survive, but hopping on one foot could lead to an unintended visit to my downstairs neighbors. A hard limit on minimum or maximum weight for a minimum viable waifu seems unnecessary. >I thought the second one was really good and is considered by many as the peak, I like both of them but it has been a while. I head the same thing with Aliens but always considered Alien to be better. The real difference is that the sequels are action movies while the originals are horror movies that have action scenes. The camera work, effects, and overall budget are superior in the second of each, but the writing isn't as good, at least with Terminator. You can tell Reese and Sarah are gradually figuring out that they're in a predestination paradox and it's almost scarier than the Terminator himself. T1 is also something of a love story that many of the sequels ape, but fall flat on. I was thinking of doing a whole big essay thing on the series, but decided against it. Although, I watched the BluRay versions of each and there were scenes in Terminator that shouldn't have been cut (Sarah saying they should blow-up Cyberdyne, or revealing that the ending happened at a Cyberdyne factory) while T2 had scenes that should have been cut from the version I saw because they didn't really work & it just ran for too long. >Some of the later ones also have also good moments and are watchable, but have more and more bad parts. Each one has good moments, but they're all wasted potential and I don't think I'll ever watch them again unless I actually want to make that essay. >I think I'm gonna watch Terminator Salvation again in some time The only thing it really has going for it is that it takes place entirely in the post Judgement Day future without any convoluted time travel bs. But they still tried to force that in by having the Terminator of the movie be a human that traveled from the past. >Generally I like the tv show the most, because Cameron is kinda fascinating. I never saw it, and probably won't bother. I'm pretty Terminatored out.
Happy Thanksgiving, /robowaifu/ ! Hey you don't have to be a burger to have thanksgiving in your heart! :^)
>>26561 Happy Thanksgiving 🦃
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>>26561 >>26562 Hello, its been a while from the last time I visited robowaifu, lately I don't have a lot of time, thanks for the positivity. Happy thanksgiving to all who celebrate! I also have an interesting talk I found today that I would like to share :^) https://youtu.be/VjkbmLjwXO8
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I hope you all had a pleasant Thanksgiving, and that your waifus will join you on the next.
>>26563 Hello EnvelopingTwilight! Good to hear from you again, Anon. Thanks for stopping by and for the link. Looking forward to hearing what's going on with you. Cheers. :^) >>26565 >I hope you all had a pleasant Thanksgiving, and that your waifus will join you on the next. Amen. Thanks Anon. :^)

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