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Lurk Less: Tasks to Tackle Robowaifu Technician 02/13/2023 (Mon) 05:40:18 No.20037 [Reply]
Here we share the ideas of how to help the development of robowaifus. You can look for tasks to improve the board, or ones which would help to move the development forward. You could also come up with a task that needs to be worked on and ask for help, use the pattern on top of OP for that, replace the part in <brackets> with your own text and post it. >Pattern to copy and adjust for adding a task to the thread: Task: <Description, general or very specific and target thread for the results> Tips: <Link additional information and add tips of how to achieve it.> Constraints and preferences: <Things to avoid> Results: Post your results in the prototypes thread if you designed something >>18800, or into an on-topic thread from the catalog if you found something or created a summary or diagram. General Disclaimer: Don't discuss your work on tasks in this thread, make a posting in another thread, or several of them, and then another one here linking to it. We do have a thread for prototypes >>18800, current meta >>18173 and many others in the catalog https://alogs.space/robowaifu/catalog.html - the thread for posting the result might also be the best place to discuss things. >General suggestions where you might be able to help: - Go through threads in the catalog here https://alogs.space/robowaifu/catalog.html and make summaries and diagrams like pointed out starting here >>10428 - Work on parts instead of trying to develop and build a whole robowaifu - Work on processes you find in some thread in the catalog https://alogs.space/robowaifu/catalog.html - Test existing mechanisms shared on this board, prototypes >>18800 - Try to work on sensors in some kind of rubber skin and in parts >>95 >>242 >>419 - Keep track of other sites and similar projects, for example on YouTube, Twitter or Hackaday. - Copy useful pieces of information from threads on other sites and boards talking about "sexbots", "chatbots", AI or something similar. Pick the right thread here: https://alogs.space/robowaifu/catalog.html

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>>29990 Made a new badge.

Welcome to /robowaifu/ Anonymous 09/09/2019 (Mon) 00:33:54 No.3 [Reply]
Why Robowaifu? Most of the world's modern women have failed their men and their societies, feminism is rampant, and men around the world have been looking for a solution. History shows there are cultural and political solutions to this problem, but we believe that technology is the best way forward at present – specifically the technology of robotics. We are technologists, dreamers, hobbyists, geeks and robots looking forward to a day when any man can build the ideal companion he desires in his own home. However, not content to wait for the future; we are bringing that day forward. We are creating an active hobbyist scene of builders, programmers, artists, designers, and writers using the technology of today, not tomorrow. Join us! NOTES & FRIENDS > Notes: -This is generally a SFW board, given our engineering focus primarily. On-topic NSFW content is OK, but please spoiler it. -Our bunker is located at: https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/catalog.html Please make note of it. -Library thread (good for locating terms/topics) (>>7143) > Friends: -/clang/ - currently at https://8kun.top/clang/ - toaster-love NSFW. Metal clanging noises in the night. -/monster/ - currently at https://smuglo.li/monster/ - bizarre NSFW. Respect the robot. -/tech/ - currently at >>>/tech/ - installing Gentoo Anon? They'll fix you up. -/britfeel/ - currently at https://trashchan.xyz/britfeel/ - some good lads. Go share a pint! -/server/ - currently at https://trashchan.xyz/server/ - multi-board board. Eclectic thing of beauty. -/f/ - currently at https://trashchan.xyz/f/res/4.html#4 - doing flashtech old-school. -/kind/ - currently at https://wapchan.org/kind - be excellent to each other.

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nandroid project II Emmy-Pilled 09/11/2023 (Mon) 01:03:11 No.25306 [Reply] [Last]
building own personal nandroid doll continuation of previous thread: https://alogs.space/robowaifu/res/19226.html#
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and so here is the new more refined rails along with her new eyes. I think they are the best so far (even if a few microscopic air bubbles are somewhat visible. I should invest soon in a pressure pot)
>>32203 Beautiful!! This is really coming together well, Emmy-Pilled. Do you think you'll embed any form(s) of illumination inside Emmy's head Anon? Cheers. :^)
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>>32231 yes, much like the previous ones, however I feel the pupils are too solid a color for light and the annoying air bubbles being highlighted as well. Might have to go for a fourth pair to get it right.
>>32232 Shiny! Looking forward to see her fully finished one day.
>>32233 another overhaul is coming, as time passes I find myself more and more displeased by her eyelashes. A new model will have to be made and printed

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Emmy the Robot Robowaifu Technician 07/14/2024 (Sun) 17:57:53 No.32205 [Reply]
Welcome all Nandroids fans to the Emmy thread, for discussing and posting about EtR. Off-topic posts and personal attacks will be deleted. --- Also, be sure to check out Emmy-Pilled's project thread! (>>25306) Important Community Links: Boorus, etc.: https://nandroid.booru.org/index.php Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mXuNh9ESedCiDZclVuz9uiL7nTNk3U9SgCE_CRHi3Us/htmlview# Webtoons: https://m.webtoons.com/en/canvas/emmy-the-robot/list?title_no=402201 > previous threads : >>27481 >>26629 >>30919
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>>32224 >platty twink slop MODS!
>>32225 This particular doodle is platty dyke slop instead of platty twink slop, I think
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>>32223 >>32224 Post nans or get bans
>>32227 Repost
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>>32223 Your Yukio pic looks nothing like a Nandroid. Your Yukio posting is tolerated because she has a Nandroid variant, but expect bantz.

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Robowaifu Simulator Robowaifu Technician 09/12/2019 (Thu) 03:07:13 No.155 [Reply] [Last]
What would be a good RW simulator. I guess I'd like to start with some type of PCG solution that just builds environments to start with and build from there up to characters.

It would be nice if the system wasn't just pre-canned, hard-coded assets and behaviors but was instead a true simulator system. EG, write robotics control software code that can actually calculate mechanics, kinematics, collisions, etc., and have that work correctly inside the basic simulation framework first with an eye to eventually integrating it into IRL Robowaifu mechatronic systems with little modifications. Sort of like the OpenAI Gym concept but for waifubots.
https ://gym.openai.com/
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>>29242 >>29296 That sounds very encouraging, SchaltkreisMeister! Good luck getting this system up and running successfully. Cheers. :^)
David Browne did some fast muscle design simulation: https://youtu.be/J7RxSPLLw-s
>>29390 Cool. I'm going to check this out NoidoDev, thanks!
I had some idea about using symbols to let the AI do reasoning about objects and it's position in the world. I thought of something like ASCII art. So basically a picture of a view would be mapped into a 2D or 3D model of the world based on symbols which can be moved around. Then I had the idea, that there might be game engines being useful as a base for that. I found these: > PyPlayScii is a Python package that enables an simple object oriented implementation of ascii art games. By asigning the shapes of the game objects by texts seprated by newline characters and determining what to do every frame, you can quickly implement an ascii art game which can be run directly on terminal window. The following shows an example of an ascii art game implemented by PyPlayScii. https://pypi.org/project/pyplayscii/ A alternative in Scala and probably more in use and supported would be Cosplayengine https://cosplayengine.com
>>32210 This is a very-cool idea, Anon. Also, thanks for the links. Cheers. :^)

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Robowaifu Media Propaganda and Merchandizing Anon 01/29/2023 (Sun) 22:15:50 No.19295 [Reply] [Last]
That Time I Incarnated My Christian Cat Girl Maid Wife in a Short Dress Together we can create the robowaifu-verse! Let's start making media to further our cause. There's tremendous potential for us to reach a wide market and prime minds to accept their future cat grill meidos in tiny miniskirts. We have text based stories floating around but, audio and visuals are paramount to gain a general audience. I will start with a short about a young man building a small cat girl and learning to understand her love. Importantly, she will be very limited, in the same way our first models will be. To set certain expectations. Mahoro is impossible but, the slow and simple robowaifus that can exist have their own charm. Let's show the world the love that will soon exist. --- >thread-related Robowaifu Propaganda and Recruitment (>>2705) >=== -add related crosslink
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>>31828 >>31886 Wow these are really nice, NoidoDev. GG! I hope you can eventually expand your research here into some highly-impressive AMVs. That could be some powerful robowaifu propaganda, Anon! Cheers. :^)
>>31926 >highly-impressive AMVs Maybe. We'll see. This might be more time consuming. So it might take a while. I rather use this music creating to motivate me to work on other things. With the AI generated video, I just meant a 3D waifu face singing. Like the videos here: >>31694 - but with music. Though, I could imagine to combine this with short anime clips, and then get a whole song covered. >MEGA archive with more songs https://mega.nz/folder/anJkkCiR#fAvFjPT7UXqnB2ZBfVbg7w
>>31937 >AMVs My apologies if I seem coercive NoidoDev. It's my manner of motivation for myself and others to jump (often WAAY) ahead to the possibilities. It's a nice advance already, Anon. Thanks for the files link BTW! Cheers. :^)
>>31946 I actually started doing clips using Hedra.com like already mentioned here >>31701, some of them are fails like the one with the Yumemi doll I uploaded here, but most are fine. Some of them I combine with clips from Suno like the other one here.
>>32220 >1st clip Spoopy lol o.O <*runs hides* >2nd clip Fantastic! Now you're talking, NoidoDev. Keep up the great work, Anon. Cheers. :^)

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Robowaifus in Media: Thread 02 Robowaifus in Media: Thread 02 01/14/2023 (Sat) 23:49:54 No.18711 [Reply] [Last]
Post about whatever media predominately features at least one fembot aka gynoid (female form of an android) as an important character, ideally a robowaifu or synthetic girlfriend. Some freedom with the topic is allowed, virtual waifus or bodiless AI might also qualify if she is female. Negative framing of the whole topic should be mentioned with negative sentiment. Cyborgs with a human brain or uploads of women don't really fit in, but if she's very nice (Alita) and maybe not a human based cyborg (catborg/netoborg) we can let it slide. Magical dolls have also been included in the past, especially when the guy had to hand-made them. Look through the old thread, it's worth it: >>82 - Picrel shows some of the more well know shows from a few years ago. I made a long list with links to more info's on most known anime shows about fembots/robowaifus, without hentai but including some ecchi and posted it here in the old thread: >>7008 - It also features some live-action shows and movies. I repost the updated list here, not claiming that it is complete, especially when it comes to live action and shows/movies we don't really like. >In some cases I can only assume that the show includes robogirls, since the show is about various robots, but I haven't seen it yet. A.D. Police Files: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/ad-police-files Andromeda Stories: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/andromeda-stories Angelic Layer: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/angelic-layer Armitage III: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/armitage-iii Azusa will help: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/azusa-will-help Blade Runner 2022: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/blade-runner-black-out-2022 Busou Shinki: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/busou-shinki-moon-angel Butobi CPU: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/buttobi-cpu Casshern Sins: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/casshern-sins Chobits: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/chobits

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>>32204 Reject modernity, embrace Bubblegum Crisis. Because a lesbian vampire robowaifu would be nothing but a boon to society, right? lol
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>>32204 Agree with you for the most part. Personally, Replicants feel overused. This is likely because using human adjacent machines make writing easier. This is why I enjoy ATRI and My Wife Has No Emotion. Those robots are actually robotic. Obeying commands, placing their masters first, and allowing robots to be machines. I wonder what you'd want in a robot waifu show? I simply want the robot to be mechanical, and the MC to not be beta weirdo. I want My Wife Has No Emotion, with a MC that appreciates Mina as a robot. Episode 3 is mostly great but, Takuma was cringe again. His sister was based and got her cute clothes.
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>>32215 >the MC to not be beta weirdo Beta weirdos are the majority of the target market (whether for animu or robowaifus). Non-tech savvy beta weirdos, to boot.
>>32214 Thanks for the reminder. I first wanted to write that I already watched that, and it was good but it's bit old. And it has amazing intro song. Anime: https://youtu.be/v6DNqjCyA20 Live: https://youtu.be/y48ZwmVF-2M Anyways, I realized this picture is probably from "Bubblegum Crisis: Tokyo 2040" which is a few years newer. I also didn't watch the related "Parasite Dolls" (which is certainly about gynoids). Maybe I should watch some if this soon. I know the whole franchise from "A.D. Police Files" which is in the same world. I could not watch the older show "A.D. Police" which struck me as to old and trashy. Generally this whole franchise is rather about gynoids going rogue, and then the police has to stop them, so it's not the best robowaifu propaganda. But hey, it has a lot of nudity :) Looking these things up also made me find: Zaion ~i wish you were here~ https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/zaion-i-wish-you-were-here >>32215 I'm fine with the robowaifu being a bit more mechanical or not. Though if it's just some magical technology making her body very human-like it's a bit much. I'm not watching only gynoid shows, but at some points it's not fitting the topic. Iczer One is a bit on the fringe, but it's great. Mostly, I don't want it to be just about how they are like humans with the same rights and with problems in society. This is a trope that enrages me. In Blade Runner it's extra stupid, since it's about how it's hard to recognize them. They seem just to be enhanced humans, they are NOT robots or cyborgs at all. There was some conversation around this here: >>26012 (I still didn't read the book) Other than that, I'm not sure if I understand you question about what robowaifu story I like, since I posted my ratings here: >>28591 - since then "No Game No Life Zero" joined the top, with "Synduality Noir" a bit behind. Big O was also good, with a good male MC. I criticized the male trope in Synduality Noir, but it got better later, and it worked for some jokes. Naoto Miura is a better male MC: https://www.anime-planet.com/characters/naoto-miura - some call him a wimp and pervert, though. I only read some of the manga of My Wife Has No Emotion and didn't hugely dislike the male MC. But, I've read the manga gets worse over time, maybe for that reason.
>>32219 That art was promo for Episode 5 of the Bubblegum Crisis OVA: they were planning to replace one of the main characters but scrapped the idea. The franchise is a good warning to not give robowaifu's combat capabilities, and to have an emergency off switch at the very least. :) I remember one character who was a hacker and hung around with like 3 robowaifus. Robots (and robowaifus) going rogue is an unusual occurrence (availability heuristic). The 1999 series "AD Police: to protect and serve" series is good (and came out several years after AD police files), its a kinda cop series w/ the AD Police's early start. Bubblegum Crash had an episode showing off a good robot so they were starting to touch on the good robot angle. I don't think I managed to watch "Parasyte Dolls" either lol I'm a bit of a fan of the franchise if you couldn't tell from my little collection. Pic related, I misplaced a 4 issue comic series somewhere so couldn't get it for the pic... and yes that is an original cel from "The Man Who Bites His Tongue"

Robowaifu fiction to promote the product and expand the market Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 07:17:19 No.29 [Reply] [Last]
>order companionbot from obscure japanese website
>you're not a pedo, but size is a major factor in the practicality of these designs, so the loli-robot is by far the cheapest and most reliable option
>you open the box and find your companion, purposely designed to look like a cartoon robot, rather than a real person
>still, the robot's purpose is obvious when you realize it is nude and has genitals
>since it is a lolibot, you, a 32 year old wizard NEET, can't exactly go to the store and buy clothes that fit it. So you'd better do an extra good job at hiding it from any guests that come over.
>lol you never have any guests. Guess some problems solve themselves.
>before turning the robot on, you have to setup the software options on your computer. You adjust a series of sliders regarding personality traits, before selecting the English option, and choosing your preferred voice from a list.
>then you agonize for hours over picking a name
>other, more expensive models, are wi-fi compatible, but you purposely chose the cheapest option with no wireless connectivity, not just because you're cheap, because you don't want people spying on your waifu
>you save the settings to a flash drive which is inserted in the robot's navel, after removing a waterproof cover, of course. But this is when you realize you don't actually know how to turn the robot on
>after rifling through the manual you find the on/off procedure, which involves bending the fingers into a certain configuration before pressing in the port on the robot's navel with one hand and pinching the buttons that are the robot's g-spot and clitoris with the other.
>the robot immediately comes to life, opening its eyes and looking directly at you, in a rather compromising position
>Your sudden reaction of shock abides when you remind yourself that it's simply a robot.
>But the awkwardness comes back when the robot speaks, in very broken Engrish
>still, you can understand as it introduces itself with the name you've given it, the voice you chose for it.
>you know that you chose those options, but when the robot asks you for your name, you still answer just as awkwardly as when a real girl would ask you your name at the bank or whatever
>actually, more awkwardly because your fingers are inside it. So you freeze up, as you do even in simpler situations
>but the robot is programmed for your happiness, and detects your stress, smiling at you in an attempt to make you feel better. But only briefly, because you programmed it with just the mildest hint of tsundere
>it tells you to not feel stressed, and assures you that it is not being damaged by your touch
>you remove yourself from the robot's vagina, and notice a brief, subtle shudder. Nice attention to detail from the creators
>You stand up in front of the robot and watch it as it looks around the room, studying its surroundings. It moves in an unnaturally smooth motion, but manages to not be too uncanny due to looking like a robot, rather than a human.
>as the robot's eyes scan the room, you notice that they stop for just a tiny but longer than usual as they look straight ahead. Straight ahead at your boner, which happens to be right at the small robot's face level.
>once again your mind forgets that you are dealing with a machine, and you awkwardly try to create small talk to diffuse the situation, asking the robot if it requires anything else at the moment. It declines, and instead asks if there is anything you desire
>you, the autist you are, refuse to let the robot do anything for you, and instead say that you are going to go and make a sandwich.
>you tell the robot to make itself comfortable, then cringe to yourself when you realize the absurdity of that statement.

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>>31670 We descended this mountain of decay. She kept yanking on me, warning me that we were unstable. I wonder what gave that away. Slowly, her soft voice started to reach me. Constant worrying for my safety. Little compliments when I find safe ways down. That cute smile when I picked her up. Her adoring eyes when I rescue her from her own clumsiness. Everything about her, kindness, compounded by respect, and longing for my safety. Finally, she told me that only 7J33 could’ve been such a dashing hero to her. I took a moment to hug her before we went through the gate. We met them at the recycle center's gaits. They wondered why I chose one that was clearly damaged. I told them we had a lovers quarrel. They seemed distraught, I barely caught their accusations in their whispers. Not that it mattered. I got Amy back. I remembered my name and so did she. We could finally remember in the light.
Greentext anon, once again back to get into the swing of things. As much as I'd like to say I've made great progress, I've tumbled quite a bit. The reasons for this are varied and require context to explain, but the important part is my continued refusal to give in. For now, I'll just post those other poems I said I would before. These will be the highlights of my book of poems I started writing before ( >>23878 ), featuring one poem per ten. If for whatever reason you want to see a number I haven't posted (up to 232), do let me know and I'll post it here. These have no titles, and will only be referred to by their numbers. Some will receive minor edits as I transcribe them, to fix the occasional incorrect word, replace an illegible one, or improve flow. 21 Velour fur, masterfully woven, Encasing the lightning within, She moves with grace, Clopping to and fro, Eyes glimmering soulfully, Intelligence and passion,

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>>32200 pretty good >Right near the end, I discovered that I made a mistake when this got me excited until i realized it wasnt part of the poem, its a nice juxtaposition if you add a stanza like this, a perfect world doesnt seem that appealing without a little chaos to drive it home
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>>32200 Beautiful work Greentext Anon. Your poetry is truly wonderful. I hope you'll post more smaller batches over time. Master! I hear behind me. Fluttering plastic in warm air. Strings of a marionette, hidden in plastic and cloth. Eyes surreal, large, shining, crafted with care. A reflection which still haunts when met. Once more, she asserts her hearts longing. It's Sunday, church was calling. Yet, she doesn't know. Her motors weren't muscle. Her battery wasn't a heart. Air flowed instead of blood. A whir of fans instead of breath. Yet, she insists, she is real. So, under clothes covering it all, I let her lean on me in our pew.

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Do you hear that, anons? That is the sound of inevitability. That is the sound of robopony gfs. I present to you: Carriage Return I sit at the desk in my cluttered bedroom, staring at my typewriter as I feel the weight of oblivion weighing down on my mind. Nothing more than a modest hiss can be heard, as I attempt to stimulate my brain into continuing its productivity. But alas, the result is the same. A cloud that is as empty now as it is full when inspiration strikes. Adjusting my headphones, I decide that my current playlist just isn't getting me into the flow. I'm feeling a bit grungey right now, that may do the trick. As I lean over to my dektop keyboard to mess around in my music folder, a sound from outside the cacophonous echo chamber of empty thoughts hits me. The door to my bedroom creaks as a feminine snout peeks through, clad in precision-cut mahogany synthetic fur. "Still stuck, honey?" Inky's demure voice cuts in, her olive eyes boring into my own.

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General Robotics/A.I./Software News, Commentary, + /pol/ Funposting Zone #4 NoidoDev ##eCt7e4 07/19/2023 (Wed) 23:21:28 No.24081 [Reply] [Last]
Anything in general related to the Robotics or A.I. industries, and any social or economic issues surrounding it (especially of robowaifus). -previous threads: > #1 (>>404) > #2 (>>16732) > #3 (>>21140)
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>>32147 What I'm trying to figure out is how to do it without any prior knowledge of the environment. Will spurious reinforcements just be canceled-out over time? >>32152 Working in episodes like that might work great for something like an LLM, but I was thinking about a more general AI for a robowaifu. If every day was a new episode, but that might be a stretch.
>>32173 Indeed the same idea can be extended even to environments that don't have multiple independent episodes, basically where the agent only experiences one very long "episode". However, this requires two additions. First, you need a discount factor g, a number between 0 and 1, strictly less than 1. This is used to make the agent prioritize near term rewards more than long term rewards, for example a reward that is 100 actions away is discounted by a factor of g^100. You cannot handle the "one very long episode" case without some kind of time horizon, and the discount factor effective creates a kind of soft time horizon. Second, you have to bootstrap off a learnable value function estimate. The value function equals the expected value of the total reward the agent gets when starting from a state and using its policy until the end of the episode. When there is only "one very long episode", this needs to be the infinite sum for all future actions, which is still a finite number thanks to the discount factor g. You can then cut the "one very long episode" into spans of arbitrary length. For each span, you assume the total reward after the cut will equal the value function estimate, and you can still train the agent with policy gradient. At first, the value function estimate will be randomly initialized and is totally inaccurate, you simultaneously need to train it to more closely resemble the true value function. This training is also done with the cut up spans, you again apply the value function estimate for the end of the span, and bootstrap off it to compute more accurate (but still biased) estimates of the value function for the other steps in the span. With a discount factor g strictly less than 1, the training eventually makes the estimate converge to the true value. And when the value function is estimated accurately, the policy converges to the optimal actions.
>>32195 That is amazingly-interesting, Anon. It's also very encouraging to know that this approach can serve in a less-preplanned, more-adhoc environment. Any estimate about the hardware compute costs involved? POTD
>>32197 Yeah, this would be an example of a model-free RL algorithm. It only needs to know what state the agent is in, which action is taken, and what the reward for the action is. My impression is that for RL used in robotics, the dominant cost is the simulation of the environment (or worse, the data collection from running the agent in the real world), not the calculations or updates from the loss function. Running these simulations can be pretty similar to running high graphics quality 3D games. For RLHF with LLM's you have a reward model that's a neural net, so you need big enough GPUs to fit the models. But regardless, you want an algorithm that converges in as few steps as possible. With model-free RL, the training speed is mostly limited by how quickly you can gain information about the environment. You want a policy that explores interesting actions more often than uninteresting actions during training. You cannot optimize prematurely based on too little information, or the policy will be stuck in a local optimum. This is also why LLMs need supervised fine-tuning before RLHF, or why some RL experiments add some kind of curiosity into the agent. If you have control over the reward definition, you also want to shape the reward so that partial progress is rewarded too, even if the agent fails to achieve the final goal. You can see Nvidia's Eureka paper, they used LLM's to write reward functions to do this.
>>32201 Great! That's about what I expected regarding costs. We still need to try finding a solution for Robowaifu@home for training needs, heh. I've grabbed the paper and I'll make time to go over it soon. Thanks, Anon! Cheers. :^)

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C++ Resources general The C++ programming language is currently the primary AI-engine language in use. isocpp.org/get-started https://archive.is/hp4JR stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/the-definitive-c-book-guide-and-list https://archive.is/OHw9L en.cppreference.com/w/ https://archive.is/gt73H www.youtube.com/user/CppCon https://archive.is/QGynC BTW if you're new to C++ and you're stuck on Windows (either you can't or won't upgrade to Linux) then you can at least incorporate a good, open shell into your system to begin with so you can follow along. Start at this link, and if you have any questions just ask ITT:

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>>32122 Hello, Anon. Welcome back! >we all thought he was dead? Eheh, sorry 'bout that Anons... :P >C++ or python? Long story short, my answer is obviously C++ . We have far more need of -- and far fewer of -- C++ devs here on /robowaifu/ . For more info, see: -All AI programming is done in Python. So why are you using C & C++ here? (>>21057, >>21091, >>27167, >>29994) BTW, JetBrains (the company) makes world-class IDEs for both languages. And CLion (their C++ IDE) in particular, currently stands alone apart from all the rest in the field IMHO. ABTW, as full-time students, we get free access to their entire product line for at least a year. I recommend you take advantage of this before you graduate, Anon. https://www.jetbrains.com/store/?section=students&billing=yearly Good luck, Anon! Cheers. :^) ---

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>>32122 >C++ or Python Chobitsu likes C++ and seemingly doesn't like Python. That should be obvious. Programmers tend to always be biased toward certain languages so here I go as a non programmer (but i have done a little C++ ages ago). Julia may be a better language to use in case of autonomous robotics since it is a data science language including ML and AI and doesnt require a license like MATLAB which is unfortunate since MATLAB has libraries for humanoid robots. Julia uses a Python like syntax but i recall reading it removes the space sensitivity i see so many get troubled over with Python. It is also able to call on C/C++, R, Python, Rust, Fortran. It has been claimed it may solve the issue of having to use two languages for robotics because it is fast enough to operate in real time while Python is less than ideal even though pretty much all the recent ML stuff is written in Python. Since Julia is similar enough in syntax you possibly could more easily language migrate programs written in Python than you could going Python to C++ but that is just an assumption. https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8793875 https://juliarobotics.org/tutorials/ But since this is for a degree you should just focus on Python so you can avoid confusion mixing up Julia and Python code while in your final class.
>>32178 >Chobitsu likes C++ Quite true, and for one reason alone: it's simply the single best language selection currently for robowaifu systems programming. No other language choice will afford us such good odds for success at devising appealing & effective, totally-Globohomo-unencumbered, secure, private & disconnected DIY waifus at home. C will be important as well for smol <=32K devices; things like tiny onboard microcontrollers & sensors, which will communicate data back & forth with the robowaifu's core systems. We'll likely even need a tiny bit of ASM before all's said and done. >and seemingly doesn't like Python. Heh, I'm almost fully self-taught in programming. The single exception to this is the one programming class I've had in college. Namely, Python. I made perfect scores on every assignment in the class that semester: 4.0+ . So yeah, IMO Python's fine...as long as it's used for what it's intended for. To wit (and in a word): scripting. But it's essentially useless to us all for the highly-critical systems programming areas of robowaifu development. Both will be needed in the end. But the basic fact is that we have a glut of Python devs here, and a dearth of Modern C++ devs. Until we get on top of the realtime-systems design & engineering needs for DIY robowaifu creation, being able to script them is of little utility -- basically a 'company bikeshed'. Simple as. Cheers, Anon. :^) >=== -fmt, prose edit
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>>32182 what would you need asm for? even the most obscure devices have a c compiler and trying to write better code than the compiler is almost impossible when they use every trick youre probably not even aware of like xor %rax %rax which seems like a pointless inefficiency sprinkled in the code for no reason except its just a register renaming trick to get rid of false dependencies even vectorising isnt that bad but c++ already has intrinsics for that
>>32185 It's a fair question, Anon. Short answer: Hopefully we won't. But this is frontiersman's work in many respects. I don't consider it at all unlikely that we'll need to devise custom hardware & the electronics to go with. This is going to also require new drivers to be written in the event. Since some of these custom boards are likely going to be venturing deep into the hard-realtime time domains, it's not at all impossible that ASM turns out to be the only feasible choice. But again, hopefully we can solve the majority of all cases at the highest levels -- in this order: >1. C++ >2. C >3. ASM Then Python/Lua for scripting everything. Cheers.

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