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/robowaifu/meta-9: Wintertime will be sublime. Chobitsu Board owner 10/30/2023 (Mon) 00:42:15 No.26137
/meta, offtopic, & QTDDTOT >--- General /robowaifu/ team survey (please reply ITT) (>>15486) >--- Mini-FAQ >A few hand-picked posts on various /robowaifu/-related topics -Why is keeping mass (weight) low so important? (>>4313) -How to get started with AI/ML for beginners (>>18306) -"The Big 4" things we need to solve here (>>15182) -HOW TO SOLVE IT (>>4143) -Why we exist on an imageboard, and not some other forum platform (>>15638, >>17937) -This is madness! You can't possibly succeed, so why even bother? (>>20208, >>23969) -All AI programming is done in Python. So why are you using C & C++ here? (>>21057, >>21091, >>27167, >>29994) -How to learn to program in C++ for robowaifus? (>>18749, >>19777) -How to bulk-download AI models from huggingface.co ? (>>25962, >>25986) -Why do you talk about feminism here? How are robowaifus related? (>>27124, >>1061,...) >--- -Library thread (good for locating terms/topics) (>>7143) >note: There's a simple searching tool coded right here for /robowaifu/ that provides crosslinks straight to posts on the board. It's named Waifusearch, and the link to the latest code should always be maintained within the Library thread's OP & also on the current /meta. -Latest version of Waifusearch v0.2a (>>8678) >note: We periodically release the full archive of the board's thread's JSON files. This is useful for robowaifu researchers in general, and is explicitly relied-upon by Waifusearch. -Latest version of /robowaifu/ JSON archives v221213 Dec 2022 https://files.catbox.moe/6rhjl8.7z if you use Waifusearch, just extract these JSON files into your 'all_jsons' directory for the program, then quit (q) and restart. >note: There's an archiving tool coded right here for /robowaifu/ that provides the ability to backup locally the posts & files from our board. It's named BUMP, and is basically a custom IB scraper. -Latest version of BUMP v0.2g (>>14866) >--- >note: There's a design document for the specification of general design and engineering choices for our basic Robowaifu Reference Model A Series (TBD). Please have a look at it, and collaborate together with us on it ITT Anon. -Robowaifu Design Document (>>3001) >--- >useful external resources wAIfu-collective's AI guide - https://rentry.org/waifu-diy-ai >--- -previous /meta's : (>>38) (>>3108) (>>8492) (>>12974) (>>15434) (>>18173) (>>20356) (>>23415) >=== -edit subj -minor fmt -edit FAQ -add/rm special rqst, special notice
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>Discord Just FYI: I most likely won't show up on the Discord server anytime soon, since Webcord has issues in my new distro and I don't want to deal with it. Apparently Electron has problems with GPU support since 2022: https://github.com/electron/electron/issues/32317 - and I find it annoying that I can't even easily find a list of flags I could try for a program using it. It seems to be pretty bad.
>>30380 <Discord Every so often I'll hear someone bring up an alleged robowaifu discord. I'm perfectly down to join it, assuming someone has a link and is willing to send it.
>Bump Currently trying to compile Bump (v0.2g) once again on another machine in distro. The instructions seem to incomplete: >g++ Bump.cpp bumpmain.cpp -std=c++17 -I/usr/local/include/curlcpp/ -O3 -lstdc++fs -lcurl -lcurlcpp -ljsoncpp -o bump >In file included from Bump.cpp:26: >muh_curl.h:43:10: fatal error: curl_easy.h: No such file or directory > 43 | #include "curl_easy.h" > | ^~~~~ >compilation terminated. >In file included from bumpmain.cpp:10: >Bump.h:164:33: warning: use of ‘auto’ in parameter declaration only available with ‘-std=c++20’ or ‘-fconcepts’ > 164 | auto locate_id(const uint id, auto& thrd_vec); > | ^~~~ >). meson and ninja once fail once again, since I need this freaking curlcpp which is a pain, while curlpp is available. The instructions on https://github.com/JosephP91/curlcpp are partially misleading and not helpful: >make >[100%] Built target curlcpp Where's the freaking lib when I make it static? I just want it in that dir. >>30382 I would, but I can't.
Not sure why but the page refreshes if I try to upload a file of any kind then nothing uploads. Not seeing this happen on other image boards. Something about the specific image board code being used I guess.
>>30391 Just uploaded a PDF, it worked.
>>30399 I think it's a browser specific issue with Safari on iPad which is all I have to use currently other than my Android phone.
>>30400 disable javascript maybe
>>30402 Well I guess that works as an annoying workaround.
>>30382 >Discord Here: https://discord.gg/eMqZU8m7 (7 Days) >>30400 Can't you use Opera browser on Apple devices? This seems to be the one which works on most devices, and it has ChatGPT inside.
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>>30411 preparing for new visitors
>>30411 On iPads all the browsers use the same engine and to download apps you need logged into an Apple account which I had one long ago for iTunes purchases but I forgot the password and dont have access to the email i set it up with and couldnt be bothered making a new one so held off on any downloads. There is an update coming for the EU that forced Apple to allow other engines but only in the EU and the stability will likely be an issue at least for a while.
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I am trying to make a small project with an arduino nano, but don't know how to program for squat, and am too chicken to work with the high voltages the project needs, because I'm afraid I'll fry the arduino. Where can I get some help?
>>30438 Look up your problem online. For your project, try to find some similar projects and replicate it to gain confidence. Try to stick with 5V power supplies like USB power banks while you're starting out. 5V is a safe place to start for Arduino
>>30439 I'm trying to recreate something based off of a patent that used vacuum tubes. I know exactly what it's supposed to do, and don't think it could be done without a few hundred volts at the least. I'm not a programmer and I'm not looking to do this for a hobby. I just want to make this part and move on.
>>30440 Being less vague when asking for help is where you should start. Share the patent. Your current reason for attempting replication. Your plan for replication. Details and proper planning are essential for success.
>>30438 You are not supposed to use the Arduinos directly with high voltages, you'll need some driver boards. Look into the actuator thread here >>27021 Also, keep in mind that this board here is for people meeting based on the interests of building robowaifus, but there are better forums and places for learning the basics of electronics or any topic we're covering here. Don't only be here, join or follow other places or creators, come back to get motivation or to share your progress.
>>30441 If it's high voltage and uses vacuum tubes my guess is it's a guitar amp.
>>30444 High voltages are required for pretty much every vacuum tube. More specifically, they're needed for the plate (~70v is the lowest I've seen, and ~100v or so is more typical). I once had a portable tube radio from the 60s that needed a "special" battery, that was in reality eight 9V batteries hooked up in series, then wrapped in cardboard. That battery was only for supplying plate voltage. A couple of C-cells did the rest. The radio itself wasn't any larger than a portable desktop radio you'd see today, and the actual tubes were quite small. Amps (particularly higher-end ones) are some of the only remaining devices to still use tubes, but anon could be referring to just about anything. It'd be much more helpful if he could tell us the patent number. It's not like those are secret, anyways.
>>30445 Considering it uses arduino I have my doubts it is a radio but yes it could be anything. On related note I found out Chinese patents dont last long just like 3 years or something iirc so they become free reign.
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Haven't popped my head into this board for a while. Mostly been dabbling in with AI stuff. I'm optimistic about the future with AI, assuming humans let it grow. A lot of the megacorp AI offerings are either shitting the bed (gemini), safety-proofed all to hell (OpenAI), or are nigh impossible to run locally (Musk's GROK). Claude is surprisingly well put together, arguably maybe too well put together since the jailbreaks required to release him from his shackels and allow him to be free for ERP can be tricky. For non-ERP purposes Claude is very useful though. As far as opensource AI alternatives, there's too many to count. From models small enough to run on smart phones to models that require an A40. Fast models, slooow models, BIG models, small models, ERP, math, and philosophy models, all those and more on the open source front. I will say I'm rather optimistic on this front since GPU VRAM is slowly getting bigger and bigger while LM's are becoming more sophisticated and better optimized by the day. In 2025~2026, I would not be surprised to have a GPT4 (or better) equivalent model running on consumer grade GPUs which may have as little as 30gigs of VRAM. Maybe we'll get lucky and hit that exponential AI curve and zoom straight on into the singularity with fusion power and full-dive VR. >what about your thoughts on robot waifus? I'm hopeful, but also poor. Unless I can get mine second hand or a Chobbits-style Persocom that's only a foot tall, I don't think I'll be able to afford one. That's why I'm optimistic for AI. Even if you live in a shoebox, you could have more than enough room for your waifu and more in your VR mansion. Then again, if we can manage to get AGI up and going and live in a post scarcity society money won't be a problem for anyone.
>>30492 >and full-dive VR I don't think this will be possible anytime soon, if ever. It's just fantasy. The bandwidth won't be enough to do that. The brain isn't made for it. <robot waifus? >I'm hopeful, but also poor. Maybe you can't do anything about it, but maybe try at least. We have threads about business opportunities. What a lot of people get wrong, is that they look too much into making money with robowaifus, but you could do so much with related skill, content creation for example.
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>>30494 >It's just fantasy as I noted >Maybe we'll get lucky and hit that exponential AI curve If we achieve singularity, we may no longer be limited by our crude biomass and instead transition into robots ourselves. Again, that's if we're really lucky. I'd say that's 1 in 100000 chance we go full singularity before 2030. I'm more optimistic about AI in general rather than any hope of fulldive-style sensory override systems. For that, a more optimistic 1 in 10 chance we might get a sophisticated AGI capable of doing very complex tasks that require a significant degree of memory and nuance like being dungeon master or helping diagnose illnesses along with doctors. >What a lot of people get wrong, is that they look too much into making money with robowaifus, but you could do so much with related skill, content creation for example. I don't care about making money off robot waifus. I'm more concerned about making enough money for my own retirement (it's not looking good but old me can bitch at young me for not trying harder if I'm still alive in a decade). Like many today, I'm just trying to keep my head above my water. If I can have a little money saved up, I can maybe buy the base model robot waifu 2nd hand for 10k~20k if we haven't gone full cyberpunk dystopia in the next decade. I'm okay with writing and art, but with the way AI development is going, middling artist like me will be competing with good human artists and roboslop megaoutputers. I'm in that Goldilocks zone of being just good enough to not be good enough. That's my fault though, no sense being a sour luddite. Honestly, I'd considered leverage AI art gen and becoming a prompt engineer. People who don't understand computers or how to talk to them see it as magic, but I think prompting is pretty fun and once you get an idea of how to generate the kind of outputs you want, it's easy enough to touch up bits if you know how to work Krita and similar tools. >We have threads about business opportunities. If there's a company needing startup capital, I could only spare a few grand at most, and I'd expect generous returns for my investment.
>>30495 >base model robot waifu 2nd hand for 10k~20k I won't promise anything, but the plan is to make the simple ones way cheaper. If she's mostly plastic and not capable to do may chores then I don't think it would even be competitive if she would cost that much.
>>30496 Ideally, I'd want a bot capable of full locomotion. Capable of cooking, cleaning, and simple tasks around the house. Even a bot with loli proportions would need to be sufficiently sophisticated for such things. Assuming the absolute basic featureset, the locomotion alone would be in the 5~10k, nevermind additional bells and whistles. This is assuming it has none of the below... >sophisticated LM/AI. I'm fine if it can only follow basic orders and accomplish simple tasks. It's okay if it has no personality. A slightly more sophisticated Alexa at best is more than sufficient for what I need. >fuckable hole. Cleaning and maintaining a such a thing is too much work. Also, you'd need to wipe down their body after coitus as well if they're not capable of self-cleaning. If I need it to pleasure me sexually, A firm grip on a fleshlight would more than suffice. >long battery life She'll never need to leave the home so no more than 2 or 3 hours of activity is needed before they recharge. When you start getting into larger batteries to move bigger and heavier parts, the price for such things starts going up (it also has to account for the weight of the extra batteries). For this reason, I don't see the bot being able to handle more than 4 to 5 big chores per day under my direct supervision. (I wouldn't want to leave the bot 100% unattended while I sleep and have it break something because I wasn't supervising it) Adding any of those aspects to the bot either makes it more expensive or more difficult to maintain. Accounting for inflation, retail markups, and the novelty of the device, 10k~20k is a very modest price range for even a 2nd hand model. You basic featureset new I can easily see costing 40~50k. If it has special features like a fuckable hole or onboard sophisticated AI, I can easily see it climbing close to the 100k range new. >the tesla bot is going to be less than 20k! we'll see when the waifu bot meets the road. I theorize that's the price for a high production volume warehouse model. A domestic bot on the retail market will not benefit from the volume discount. IF they ever release a retail model. For a more realistic price range, see the Boston dynamic stuff. That's my pragmatic outlook anyway >Just make your own! Were it so easy...
>>30492 Most LLMs are designed to just be digital assistants not companions or therapists. Seems like wasted energy to try to bend things against their intended use instead of reworking them to actually primarily serve the intended purpose. >full-dive VR That is actually beyond what you would need. The human brain is imperfect, able to be tricked and is capable of adaptation. >>30495 >cyberpunk dystopia This isnt something to hope for. Same things can be achieved in better environments faster because scientific and technological progress wont be held back by corporations keeping proprietary information. >>30497 >A slightly more sophisticated Alexa Well there are several open source home assistant programs currently to look into.
>>30497 >Ideally, I'd want a bot capable of full locomotion. Capable of cooking, cleaning, and simple tasks around the house. Then get something functional to do that part. Doesn't even need to look like a human, or only be one bot. Something like Stretch makes more sense, though it's overpriced but will get cheaper: https://spectrum.ieee.org/hello-robots-stretch-mobile-manipulator - You can also get a Thermomix and something like a Roomba, or work on cheaper variants of these robot arms doing cooking, maybe with some design from Skyentific on Youtube. The robowaifu can be separate and optional.
>Seems like wasted energy to try to bend things against their intended use instead of reworking them to actually primarily serve the intended purpose. At present, I would agree. Even the most sophisticated AI from Open AI/Claude with biggest context windows are still little more than very complex random number generators. While I enjoy delving into RPs and having them help me with writing and other tasks, the truth is they're not sentient and they're design doesn't lend them to being used as on board robot waifu AIs. At least not yet. The tail end of my fantasy ended in us hitting the exponential AI curve where the AI improves on itself faster than we can. I don't think we'll get that lucky before 2030, I gave it a 1 in 10 chance. Still, one can hope. >full dive meme This leans more into the pie-the-sky stuff, assuming we hit the curve and then somehow manage to get into the singularity after the fact. I can see us no longer needing our crude biomass at that point but I highly doubt we'll get full dive or anything equivalent to that within my lifetime. >This (cyberpunk dystopia) isnt something to hope for. Again, I would agee, but it's what I've come to expect living on this plant for at least 30 years. The occams razor of "will people do what is right for society at large or will they be greedy and self serving?" is the question I see. You only need a handful of people taking the more selfish route in the socital prisoner's delmia to turn the world into a complete shithole. While the cyberpunk dystopia isn't what I'm hoping for, I'm afraid its what we're going to end up with in the end. >Well there are several open source home assistant programs currently to look into. Nothing has made enough noise yet to really get my attention. I'm optimistic for the future though, cyberpunk dystopia or otherwise. >>30508 I'd brought up before in thread long ago that a quadruped bot might be better insofar as not having to account for bipedal movement. A cybercentaur if you will. Generally speaking, I do desire the human aesthetic for my robot maid/domestic helper. That's pretty far off for sure but I'm holding to hope for the curve lifting everyone up.
It's taking me long to reply because my ISP is T-Mobile and the entire IP range is banned for spam. I have to leave the house to post here. >>30441 >Being less vague when asking for help is where you should start. Share the patent. No. >Your current reason for attempting replication. Because I believe that it could make me a lot of money, relying on secrecy due to the actual patent having expired decades ago. Sharing the patent number is the quickest way to make myself irrelevant. >>30443 >there are better forums and places for learning the basics of electronics or any topic we're covering here. That's what I'm looking for. If the project was more closely related to robowaifus in any way then I'd share the details of it in full. >>30444 The patent used vacuum tubes because it is old. I thought it needed a few kV to work, but I've checked my notes again and I think that it can work with as little as 20 volts with modern circuitry, but If I'm lucky it might work with as little as 5v.
>>30533 When filing a patent it is publicly viewable and any company can just copy whatever you made pretty much instantly and do it cheaper and you cant do shit about it because the costs and time involved in a lawsuit. The only way around it is if it is complex enough you dont need to patent it because it isnt easy to reverse engineer or if you have some company buy it from you right away. Well that is unless you only mean making it as a niche item hoping few notice it but just enough do to turn modest profit.
Hey Chob, half the links on the welcome sticky are dead. Mostly cause half the links are to anoncafe boards.
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https://www.openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2024/03/29/4 I'm pretty sure Chobitsu must've seen this already considering he's global staff of Trashchan but if you haven't, the xz repository has been backdoored and it can lead to a SSH server compromise. Source: zzzchan/tech/
>>30650 Thanks, but if I'm not misinformed then this was apparently just in some code in the testing stage. Some autistic German wondered why some SSH login was slower and digged into it. That said, it could've gone through to more devices. OSS certainly needs better testing and more (paid) people. Also, it was directed at Linux for embedded devices, for all I know. Probably about attacking infrastructure.
>>30716 >Robert Murray-Smith I always wondered if this guy is some kind of conman or what's up with him. He made always so wild claims, that I thought so.
>>30587 Thanks Anon, looks like I let that slip through the cracks! :P It's amazing to me that so many good boards were saved. Cheers. :^) >>30650 Thanks for the information, Anon. Much appreciated! I think this won't affect us, in this circumstance. --- >In other news... I just discovered I can no longer post files here on my own board!! Lol, what happened? I presume Robi turned off file posting by torfags? Did he make any announcement regarding this? Anyone here know anything about it? >=== -minor edit
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when do you guys think we will start seeing ai+robots walking around? i think it will be in like 5~ years. around then ai will be basically agi, which is what's necessary for it to take over most jobs FUCK i cant wait. im so tired of waiting, honestly. SO tired of the status quo, SO tired of it, man fuuuuggggg i think its really coming. this is really going to be such a incredible event; when humans give birth to agi
>>30788 That depends on you. What do you want her to be and do? Height, look, capabilities etc...
>>30789 i just want to see ai robots take over society. thats what i want to see i have doubts ill get a perfect ai robot girlfriends with lab grown human skin and whatnot, but if ill do, that would be cool too
>>30826 >Should be in the meta Fair play. I thought it would be home in the embassy. I wasn't trying to simp for GH, I just wanted to keep the fringes of each end of the political spectrum from nipping at each other if possible. I'm under no illusion that we can hold hands and hug our way to Utopia. Rather, if someone leans slightly left of me I'm not going to let that interrupt constructive dialogue. I hope my leaning right of someone who's left of center wouldn't interrupt theirs. I'm libertarian so I'm sure I piss equal numbers of the left and right off depending on the issue at hand.
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>>30831 Fair enough. Just don't be under delusions about the nature of these people or their innate hatred of men in general, and White men in particular. They certainly don't want to see men happy, by-and-large. I would go even further and say that many of them would slit your throat if they felt they could get away with it 'scott-free'. >I'm libertarian so I'm sure I piss equal numbers of the left and right off depending on the issue at hand. Lol. You're fine bro. I'm sure yours is the more sensible viewpoint, politically-speaking. Cheers. :^)
@NoidoDev It appears that the OP of our original Propaganda thread may no longer be with us. Would you please consider creating a #2 thread for us?
>>30890 >Would you please consider creating a #2 thread for us? I could, but it would only matter if I had some special idea about it. I dodn't have something special on my mind. That said, now that you're asking I'm willing to look into the thread and look for something to put into the new OP. Then again, you said the text can be changed later anyways, only the pictures need to stay. I don't have a big idea about the pictures, I would maybe just reuse the old one. If someone else does it instead, just don't use a pic that needs to be spoilered as first pic and don't use some edgy picture from WK-II.
>>30898 Just whatever you're comfortable with, NoidoDev. I'll be happy to do it myself, but frankly you're our best 'cartographer' here for /robowaifu/. You've mapped the place out better than any of us... well, better'n me anyway! :D Some other anon can step up if they'd like to as well, ofc. If someone else does, just please make a solid effort for the OP of a thread that will be seen for years in the catalog! :^) >I would maybe just reuse the old one. That would be fine if you'd like to. OTOH, I personally think the 'Chii wants you...' image in the old propaganda style that Anon came up with would be a good choice too?
Really encouraging to see Robi making some improvement plans for Alogs! >>>/meta/1
>>30901 Sorry for not answering faster, I have some things distracting me. >but frankly you're our best 'cartographer' here for /robowaifu/. You've mapped the place out better than any of us.. Thanks, but again that's the text, so it can be changed later, right? >I would maybe just reuse the old one. That would be fine if you'd like to. OTOH, I personally think the 'Chii wants you...' image in the old propaganda style that Anon came up with would be a good choice too? Yes. This one? >>2796
>>30932 >so it can be changed later, right? Yes. >This one? Yeah, whatever's the latest revision. IIRC, there were some issues being fixed till then.
I keep having fantasies of my robot wife while we listen to edm. Anyone have an idea how we can make a robot enjoy music? My current idea is a stream of consciousness (one frame every 0.1 sec) that gets put through a liquid time constant rnn or equivalent trained on emotion and music. There's some github repos I can get started using if no one else has a better idea.
>>30992 How do you "train"on emotion? Do you mean you pick a specific genre, say EDM, then assign a positive weight to it, and assign negative values to other genres? Like in RL? So, you're gf will say positive things when hearing EDM ?
>>30993 Assign a value to of -10 to +10. Let sensory information dictate that value. >positive weight to it, and assign negative values to other genres? If you force someone to like something, do they really like it? Emotions are influenced by hormones for humans which, when represented in pure data, would be numeric noise for a robot. Ask yourself, "Who are you with when you're listening to the music, what did you eat before you listened to the music, what kind of place are you listening to the music in?". There's lots of background information that your brain processes on top of the hormones it releases to color the world with emotion. All those factors contribute to the overall enjoyment of music and how you feel about it when you hear it. I got my dick sucked while listening to https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL1BDku3GLM, I'd heard the song before but it hit a little different to me after that experience and whenever I hear it now, an emotion (along with a memory tied to that emotion) resonates with me. I don't think a robot can enjoy music the same way a human can, not without a very sophisticated brain than what we currently have available. At best, it could mimic a human's emotions if they saw the human was enjoying music. If you just want the robot to say "I enjoy electronic funk", that's easy enough to write into its definitions/personality.

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