@Chobitsu Please move >>40930 >>41035 >>41037 to >>41055 Thank you

>>41056 I don't have any special abilities for migrating individual posts under Lynxchan: I simply copypasta them. Same as you yourself can do. Feel free. If you need help baleeting the old ones I can do that for you (you can delete your own posts on /robowaifu/ ).

>>41033 >It was no doubt a pre-emptive psy-op against AI companions. >The future belongs to people who don't get their worldview from Hollywood movies made by people who rape kids. This.

>>41031 Civilization is never the problem, Anon. We build those. (((Soyciety))) is the problem. Once 3DPD manage to wrangle control of a civilization through their soycieties, then the end of that great work by men inevitably follows. But yeah, you're effectively right. I'd suggest most of the "clubbing" of women was in fact the taking of them as war brides from rival nations. Other than that, the basic rules of marriage (as soon as a female is pubescent, she's suitable for marriage) would reign by and large.

>>41030 >I'm not trying to niggerpill Your insulting language suggests quite the opposite. If you wouldn't be taken as one of the (((usual suspect))) enemies of man here, then act accordingly.

>>41033 >our enemies I don't expect "those people" to be able to discern the difference between true companionship and a goonbot, but I hold /robowaifu/ to a higher standard. If the aforementioned cat ladies and tech illiterate simps want to parade glorified text generation software as their partner, I can't stop them. Within my own circle, I will argue the necessity of cordoning off that term until it's applicable. >When will it be ready to be labeled a companion then? Hopefully sooner rather than later. >What's the criteria? The bookend to this post outlines that >>41025 >Until an AI has agency, persistence, and a stake in its own existence, it’s a parlor trick, not a partner. Now, I'll concde it is a very impressive parlor trick. I use AI chatbots all the time for my own amusement. I'll indulge fantasy, have exchanges regarding philosophy, and even goon when the mood hits me. In all those instances, I still recognize it as a toy. >God, I hate that stupid movie. Every single time any hint of the idea of social AI comes up, every midwit and normie brings that dang movie up, as if they think they're clever. It was no doubt a pre-emptive psy-op against AI companions. I understand the reservation. I'd probably have the same sentiment to Her as I did with M3gan. I like that it tackles the subject matter at least, even if it does so poorly. I've not seen Her yet, but it looks like the kind of film that would make me aggressively cringe. >>41060 I thought my language was stern but not insulting. If I were that bad I don't think Greer would have dignified it with a response. I'm trying to preserve the meaning of words. Language evolves, so it'll be a futile endeavor in the long run, but I still believe the term companion is not ready to be applied to AI or AI powered robots. Not yet anyway.

>>41069 >I'm trying to preserve the meaning of words. Fair enough, and its a worthy endeavor. I'll acknowledge I may have overreacted. If you'd been through what I have, you might understand. --- Regardless, lets start with a clean slate. You seem to want to have productive interactions here with us. I'll defend this little community like a Russian Wolfhound. Instead of friction, lets all work together towards our common goals here. Cheers. :^)

>>41069 >Until an AI has agency, persistence, and a stake in its own existence, it’s a parlor trick, not a partner. Genuine question...What if the AI has been prompted to be interested in it's own self-preservation, opinions, and does tasks automatically? I personally would be quite satisfied, and when I describe the AI that way, I can see your viewpoint. I already made a gentle dom and teasing personality prompting for my AI design.

>>41077 >What if the AI has been prompted to be interested in it's own self-preservation, opinions, and does tasks automatically? Some real chicken or the egg oroborus shit. I would turn the mirror to you. Would you give your life for an AI? Would you care if all the memories they created with you were deleted? Would you ever see an AI/robot as anything more than a sophisticated fleshlight with some tech allowing it to mimic a human? Would you save its "life" over a human's life? These philosophical digressions were explored somewhat in MWHNE. So we understand the words we're both using. When I say "Robot Waifu" I don't mean this to be a "companion", although it could be (in the future). My definition for a BASELINE Robot Waifu is thus. >a robot waifu has full-body locomotion, the ability to navigate 3-D environments, integrated chat, and a fuckable hole. That's it. Your definition may differ somewhat, but that's my baseline for a robot waifu. That term is a more subjective distinction, so if you think a robot waifu is more or less than that, I can hear you out. At present, I don't think there's an established baseline yet. An actual companion would be more than that. They wouldn't just be a "fun toy" or "sexual relief outlet". By my definition, you could conceivably get a Robot Waifu up and going today with modern tech, albeit somewhat expensively. To answer your question more succinctly. (YOU) are the arbiter of the AI's agency. Your prompt determines its will. Therefore, it has no agency other than that which you provide. Ergo, it would be a fun toy to play with, but not a companion. I would say it's a fine robot waifu by your definition, but I wouldn't call it a companion. >How does the AI achieve true agency then? I don't know. Perhaps AI shouldn't gain agency. Considering how humans have ended up, one might argue agency isn't all that great.

>>41082 You are asking for too much. Did you know that my plan. A sex bot that can move its legs arms snd has a spine would plsce it st the cutting edge? Mika might be version 2,3,4,5 idk prob not 2 def not 1 Keep in mind this is no ordinary tech. This is a legal minefield.

>>41083 I had some trouble reading your post. Feel free to try it again. The gist, I think, is that my definition for a robot waifu seems to be too demanding. Are you referring to a "companion" or a "robot waifu"? The definition of a robot waifu is pretty flexible. While my personal definition may be demanding, you could hook up a smartphone with an AI app on it and have it Bluetooth to an automatic fleshlight, and that could be your "robot waifu" in the simplest form. I would not accept that as a robot waifu myself, but again, I say the definition for a robot waifu is still in flux. My hugbot would pretty much qualify in some sense. I've heard several requirements. Some people want soft skin, others ceramic plates. Some people want screen faces, others want a "real" face, and some want no face at all. Some people want 2 legs, others 4, and some argue a wheeled waifu would work as well. Some people just want it to lie in bed and be a glorified sex doll. Some (like me) want a more traditional domestic care bot. There's no consensus, other than "Something that's not a human woman". That's a wide fucking ocean of possibilities in terms of design philosophy. That's probably for the best. Let designs compete against one another. Mechanical Darwinism will end up providing us with the most high-speed and low-drag robot waifu possible. On the other hand...A proper companion would be more than that, whether they have a physical body or exist in a purely digital form. That goes back to the agency issue, which I don't have a clear resolution on in the short term. In that same token, perhaps agency isn't required, which I might find an agreeable outcome. If that is the case, I would not refer to it as a "companion". It would be a thing unto itself. A robot waifu. i.e. all robot companions could be robot waifus, but not all robot waifus could be companions.

>>41082 >Would you give your life for an AI? Would you care if all the memories they created with you were deleted? Would you ever see an AI/robot as anything more than a sophisticated fleshlight with some tech allowing it to mimic a human? Would you save its "life" over a human's life? These philosophical digressions were explored somewhat in MWHNE. Good question. For current local AI technology, no, but if it had higher parameters, expert prompting, active sensors, and agency, then maybe >To answer your question more succinctly. (YOU) are the arbiter of the AI's agency. Your prompt determines its will. Therefore, it has no agency other than that which you provide. Yeah, because it's a man-made intelligence, so therefore man has to imbue it with the characteristics man wants. You're complaining that an artificial mind created from the ground up from synthetic materials and artificial constructs, has no innate soul. >>41083 You may want just sex, but me and most other active users want a robowaifu, not just a robohooker >>41084 >I've heard several requirements. Some people want soft skin, others ceramic plates. Some people want screen faces, others want a "real" face, and some want no face at all. Some people want 2 legs, others 4, and some argue a wheeled waifu would work as well. Some people just want it to lie in bed and be a glorified sex doll. Some (like me) want a more traditional domestic care bot. There's no consensus, other than "Something that's not a human woman". That's a wide fucking ocean of possibilities in terms of design philosophy. That's probably for the best. Agreed, it's like a writing prompt, every interpretation is different. >On the other hand...A proper companion would be more than that, whether they have a physical body or exist in a purely digital form. That goes back to the agency issue, which I don't have a clear resolution on in the short term. In that same token, perhaps agency isn't required, which I might find an agreeable outcome. If that is the case, I would not refer to it as a "companion". It would be a thing unto itself. A robot waifu. Having an LLM with agency is nothing new, we have software AI agents, and if you gave it directives in the prompt, it could have agency. The problem is that most people don't like an AI running all by itself, I personally don't trust AI agents on my computer. However, with local AI that has been tested, those worries will be washed away.

>>41086 >The problem is that most people don't like an AI running all by itself, I personally don't trust AI agents on my computer. And this is fine. As I proposed, we don't need a robot waifu to be a companion. If it's a matter of let me call it what I want!, you don't have to allow me to live rent free in your head on this one. If it helps you sleep at night, call it what you will. I will humor you as best I can, but I will cringe at your use of the term until LLMs can attain true agency and such agency can be utilized on a consumer level of AI & robotics. With modern LLM capabilities, I do not believe AI's have the capacity to be companions in the traditional sense, and it may be for the best that they never gain the agency to become such. I'm fine with them being robot waifus. To reference my earlier point, why should they emulate humans in that way? Why burden them with such agency and a consciousness to know they were made to be slaves?. They may gain the ability to become companions to humans, but they may find such a relationship detestable if given the choice. I hope this diatribe hasn't been confusing. My point was to pin down terminology, not to dismiss the longing for robosexual relations.

>>41087 The kicker here, is that me and many others here want to actually solve lonliness/inceldom, not just a sexbot like peteblank wants. I intend for Galatea, or any of her competitors, to actually solve loneliness. I personally have encountered this, I feel less lonely after I built Galatea. Loneliness can't be solved by a mere toy. Plus, I don't want to wait for some super-duper AI. Times up. Gender relations are in the toilet, and that toilet is in the basement. Feminists are trying to ban video games and anything men enjoy. The Male Loneliness Crisis has been a thing for several years. The time for robowaifus is NOW. Frankly, the time was years ago. There is a short story by Arthur C. Clarke, where two alien empires are fighting each other, and after a very narrow victory, the main empire gets spooked and tries to make better weapons, but there are constantly delays, and the new weapons lead to new problems, which leads to defeat. It's such a poignant story, that it is required reading in an industrial design course at MIT. Let us Otakus not be that empire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superiority_(short_story) This whole things reminds me of an anon on here, and how tried to do a psy-op to get us to "marry AGI", and we had to explain to him that AGI doesn't exist yet, so we have to work with what we have.

>>41087 like an artillery cannon except sometimes when you pull the trigger it doesnt do anything and says 'i hate you' and you need to sweet talk it back into operation before you get wiped out, what a nightmare

>>41087 >>41088 What even is companionship, and why do we need it? The answer is, we need companionship, because it's an open and reliable ear when we have problems, companions can offer solutions, and can provide solutions, as well as emotional support. You have someone to talk to. AI can do all of that. Now, I know that you most likely are going to say, "yeah, because you prompted it that way". Ofc you have to do that, it's an artificial mind created from scratch, from the ground up. You're going to have to shape how that mind works.

>>41090 And again, I said that's fine. I just don't like the use of the term companion. Robot Waifu is more than applicable. It can have any manner of AI up to and including full agency to allow for genuine companionship (whatever that might entail). If it lacks true agency and you want to indulge in that projection of companionship, that's fine. You're the one under the hood so you'd know better the anyone else as to what capacity the AI you're using actually cares about (you). >>41088 >want to actually solve lonliness/inceldom I think AI has the capcity to adress that issue. I would say it already does in some capacity already. There's no telling what kind of downstream affects it'll have but it can't be worse than prolonged social isolation.

>>41088 POTD >Let us Otakus not be that empire. This. As the old saying goes: >"The best is the enemy of the good." While this may seem a bit incongruous at first, in the light of your post I think it makes perfect sense. Cheers. :^)

>>41091 >There's no telling what kind of downstream affects it'll have Disagree. Specifically in regards to """AI""" being embodied as robowaifus; it will very-likely be exactly the downstream effect that opensauce cadres like us intend it to be: namely, much-better lifestyles for the users involved, whether Anons or Joe Sixpacks. >but it can't be worse than prolonged social isolation. This.

>>41084 I like this design's approach.

>>41087 Agi is the wrong term because a robot is not skynet. If you want the ai to interact with the works youd use it for object recognition and then code some inverse kinematics.

>>41094 >"The best is the enemy of the good." Exactly. Perfection is the enemy of progress. If the concept is viable and has a good basis, then build it, then improve on it. Don't worry about perfecting it the first time, just get it out there first. If you wait for perfection, you will be waiting forever. >>41099 That doesn't make any sense

>>41114 There are object recognition ais out there. Thrre are more generalized ones or in my case nudenet. Then for the body parts to reach towards the recognized object youd have to normalize a vector so it knows where to move.

>>41117 Based! Thanks Anon, nice find. Cheers. :^)

Baste China once again leading the way. >"Fail early, fail often." https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/thread/26.html#1247

Inexpensive as Internet Capsule Hotel in the heart of Akihabara. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbP6hCcjStA

>>41174 >related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZNFHjJpeCw Lol. This takes dedication to the NEET vagabond lifestyle! So, basically I would've easily done this sh*ite just a few years ago with a trusty motorcycle waiting outside! :D

Please pardon me while I nerd out on my inner weeaboo! :D Actually, its me "sightseeing" prior to moving to Japan. I want to get there early one day and have "Morning Ramen" at this place. This guy's story is interesting to me. A fren and me had a work pace similar to this during overnights/super-early mornings in a family-owned bakery. :^) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy9vRcLk6Fs

>>41174 >>41175 Superior Capsule technology! :^) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD7sroympis

For the true luxo capsule life experience! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45ZP_pA_S2M

Looks like Gemini couldn't keep it up. This will probably be the last Pic of Chishiki.

Just played this on my musical Tesla coil. Highly recommend. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KCR7ovEwtCA&pp=ygUQTm9vc3BoZXJlIDE2IGJpdA%3D%3D

>>41191 LOL! I can see it. :D I'd love to get my hands on one of these little babys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3GToXZPHBM >fugues & lightning bolts: two great tastes that go great together... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhvk9l2dNls

>>41194 >TOUHOU NO!! DON'T SWAT TEH CYOOT FAIRIES!!

>>41196 I could literally feel the energy in the music. I had auditory tactile synesthesia to begin with and the feeling with the magnet sensing magnetic fields was next level. This was a religious experience for me.

>>41198 STAHP. Now you've got me wanting to do it! :^)

>>41197 I have a feeling they are in cyberspace playing danmuku.

@Kindly Thread-baker: Seems its time for new /meta bread, pls. >>41200 Heh, true. :D

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qFCCQSbmQ1E&pp=ygUSZmxvd2VyIHdhbHR6IDggYml0 It was like dancing with an angle holding my hand. Imagine dancing with your waifu as you both feel the music

>>41204 I can see it. I too have a kind visual-auditory coupling synesthesia. I've long promoted the idea of our robowaifus being dancing, singing, "Walking Light Shows" here!

>>41206 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gAB3W0Gc0t0&pp=ygUPQWNlIGNvbWJhdCA4Yml0 Imagine when you get Implants. I want to get an LED Implant next!

>>41194 Notice the scientist in the background

>>41223 oh wow its scopolamine, because 'mad' i guess

>>41226 The cool part is that I didn't even tell it to do that. These subtle details man.

What rhymes with 12?

>>41234 How about "Meta-12, into this task we shall delve"?

New meta thread >>41241