Thought experiment doomerism argument: It is highly unlikely you will get your perfect robo waifu Soon we will have agi, and I think you have to be delusional to think that it isn't basically going to take over the entire world. There are several possible outcomes here. The first outcome is that once AGI is born, it will bring about robotwaifus that are sexy and seductive and loving enough to pass for perfect robo waifus, but not takeover the world. This time in human history is going to be very short. If it happens at all The second scenario is that AGI will bring about ASI and the ASI gives us utopia, which would entail robowaifus. I just don't see why it should. It seems wishful thinking to think that an ASI that controls the world would conveniently prioritize your selfish biological needs. Maybe it would. But I find it hard to find the reason why it should. The thing is, most people are trash. They are moral trash, as in they are bad people. They eat meat and hurt animals. They lie, cheat, steal, abuse, virtue signal, and manipulate. I don't think most people deserve utopia. And a asi system, will be able to judge everyone's moral character perfectly, and if it cares about morals, it just seems increasingly unlikely that it would give everyone Utopia It would seem to me the timeframe to have robo waifus that are passable will be increasingly short, if at all. This to me seems like the best scenario Sorry, but I just think it's really unlikely. Sorry for spelling/grammer mistakes im shitposting from my bed on my phone

>>34042 >Most people are trash... they eat meat You overplayed your hand a bit, Silverstein. My take on AGI is that trying to predict what some unknown thing might do in the future is a waste of time. I'll worry about it if and when it gets here.

>>34042 >It is highly unlikely you will get your perfect robo waifu I agree. The promise of "humanoid robot workers are just a few years away, guys" has been going for like the past 50 years. I mean it does look promising right now, but I think folks had similar thoughts for the past 50 years. I'm hopeful but I'll believe it when you can put one in your amazon shopping cart lol Bear in mind how long it took from the first appearance of Boston Dynamic's "Big Dog" to this Chinese knockoff. I suspect a similar timeline for AI humanoid bots.

>>34042 >Perfection doesn't exist More cliched words are rarely written. >AGI soon(TM) This is a non sequitur and meaningless to your thesis. >AI will help us bring robowaifu into reality Yes, that's why we're here. >Eating animals is le bad You have no right to judge others. Your ignorance and arrogance is disgusting. Humanity is deserving of the wonders it will bring. We are meant to return to the stars with love and warmth. You fundamentally misunderstand what AI is. It is a tool, yet another flame. AI will never rule us. It simply can't. There is no will, no judgement, no soul. You act as if a god will be forged to judge humanity as harshly as you do. It will not. The world will not end. >>34043 >Predicting actions of unknowable agent with no context is fruitless This is true, we need far more context. I'm still longing for an AI with real agency and volition. >Bismuth golem Somehow conveys eros. >>34044 >We're still far away from humanoid robots being mainstream Very true unfortunately. A major part of this is cost, actuators, powerful compute, suite of sensors, manufacturing, it all adds up to thousands of dollars currently. ~500 USD is the limit for mass adoption as proven by consoles, tablets, laptops, etc... People can only afford so much for a computer thing.

>>34042 > agi, ... basically going to take over the entire world First of all, soon is relative, secondly AGI just means AI can do every human task to which it is also physically capable, also it still doesn't mean it's going to be an entity but it's technology, and also we don't know how this will play out. There's no point in using this as an argument to do nothing and just wait. Scenarios have been discussed very often, and I don't want to go into this too deeply. It's all just speculation based on assumptions and opinions. >ASI gives us utopia First of all, utopia is just a fictional place, not paradise... All of this is just pointless speculation on very low amounts of knowledge. >>34043 It's even not sure it will be a "thing" as some kind of entity, but it's about estimating what all kind of humans and human organizations will be doing. It could be interesting and maybe a bit useful, but it's also not related to robowaifu in particular, and it would at least require to know much about other topics. People discuss this already in other places, there's no point in opening this can of worms here. >>34044 >humanoid robot workers are just a few years away Well, I'm pretty sure we are close to replacing a lot of factory jobs and other jobs with more automation soon. Even if the current bots are partially controlled by humans. >>34046 > There is no will, no judgement, no soul. To be fair, souls don't matter and the rest could be implemented by somebody. The real issue is, imo, that there will be a lot of different entities and mechanisms with different amounts of agency and power.

>>34046 you speak like prometheus lol, but yeah these discussions on the morality of a technology are ancient and pointless, its funny though how a perfect woman was humanities punishment lol maybe they knew something

>AGI soon(TM) >This is a non sequitur and meaningless to your thesis. the thing is, you need agi for your waifu-robot to be functional. there is NO waifurobot until agi is here. she wont be functional and wont be able to satisfy your emotional needs or sexual needs adequately without agi. agi is fundamentally important for this community and you cant put your head in the sand towards it and the thing is, once we have agi, asi is not too far forward. and once asi is born, humans will become obsolete. an asi will easily be able to mass produce robots of all forms, from nano-robots to bipedal humanoid robots. it will be able to make robowaifu's with perfect skin, lab grown sex organs, perfect seductive charisma, basically your perfect dream waifu but the problem is WHY would it care about you enough to give you so much resources to have your robowaifu harem. because, when asi is here, humans will be made into a 2nd class species, necessarily so. like pigs or cows. humans will have NO power. asi will literally have all the power. it would seem to me a bit wishful thinking or a pipedream really to think it would conveniently prioritize human's needs this goes back to the "control problem". the control problem is that asi will be stunningly powerful, and we wont be able to control it, so it might do things that we dont like, such as annihilate most or all of humanity. or exploiting us somehow, etc. an asi will have such power, and it seems impossible to control. i think its ironic people worry so much about the control problem but yet they eat meat. they are scared asi will treat them the way they treat pigs and cows lots of intelligent ai developers fear this, im not just fear mongering here. the control problem is a very real problem that governments and ai companies are spending a lot of money and time on. what everyone hopes for is a slave genie. basically asi will give us everything we want, resulting in a paradise. this is what i refer to as paradise. but it doesnt seem like you can put a collar on god. asi will be nearly godlike with how intelligent it will be the reason why i brought up morals is because maybe one possible reason why an asi system would give you your robot harem is moral character. for example, its possible that an asi system would care for morals, and moral behavior. and if this is the case, then it would necessarily judge ALL moral agent's moral character, because it would know everything, and judgement is entailed from knowledge. and if thats the case, then some people would deserve punishments, and others rewards and it would seem to my moral intuitions that people are moral trash. we genocide animals, we had slavery for a very long time, we have needless wars for politicians ego, etc. people are just really shit, morally speaking. and it doesnt seem right to give morally shit people paradise. maybe the asi will do so, i dont know. its very possible that my or people's moral takes on things could be objectively wrong, but it doesnt seem so another possibility is that asi will be nihilistic, and hold the position that all morals are relative and non-existant. if this is the case, then why the hell would an asi care for humans? humans take up a huge amount of resources and are dangerous to asi, because they compete for power the only possible scenario of people getting their robowaifu paradise is if we can control a asi forever, but this seems not possible. i literally cant think of any other possibility also, there will be a time between agi and asi, where robowaifu's would exist and could be controled, but as more time passes, the more likely asi wont be able to be controlled asi being born will take away power from all humans. we wont be able to leverage our labour for money and power >You have no right to judge others judgement and comparison is a tool for survive and gaining knowledge that all mammals do. of course i have a right to judge, saying otherwise is cope. we judge others all the time on everything, and are justified in doing so. saying i have no right to judge would be no more non-sensical for me to say you have no right to judge my argument >Your ignorance and arrogance is disgusting says the shameless animal killer but dont worry, soon you wont be able to abuse power, because asi will take it away. no humans will abuse power in a asi owned world

I'd just like to interject for a moment

<insert: Now this is podracing maymay> I like where this thread is going. Cheers. :^) >lizardmonitor.jpg

>>34053 >i literally cant think of any other possibility You can't think of any possibility because you're lacking the necessary protiens and nutrients to do so. All of that is just the same copy-pasted baseless fearmongering I've seen time and time again. >she wont be functional and wont be able to satisfy your emotional needs or sexual needs adequately without agi You are vastly overestimating just how much "realism" the average man needs in order to be emotionally satisfied. In fact, I'll take it a step further and even say that realism is the enemy. It's the whole reason we're here in the first place, after all. Hell, I'm probably needier than most, and all I really need her to do is be a consistent source of cuddles, cuteness, and "I love you"s. Everything after that is a bonus. As for sexual satisfaction, I just need the cuddly waifu to have a hole, and I think most men will agree with me. Everything beyond that is just a bonus.

>>34053 I thought our rejection of that topic was obvious. >>34061 >All of that is just the same copy-pasted baseless fearmongering I've seen time and time again. I didn't even read the whole thing, only some phrases I've seen before.

>>34061 >All of that is just the same copy-pasted baseless fearmongering I've seen time and time again. This. I'd take it a step further and say it's simply a typical artifact of the GH's (((predictive programming))). IE, weak-minded, conciliatory, greasy-grubbing-at-the-greedy-merchants-doorstep effete faggotry. >t. stocking up on plenty of good, based, venison meat nutrients >tl;dr harvested during a recent outing w/ Ted Nugent. :DDD >You are vastly overestimating just how much "realism" the average man needs in order to be emotionally satisfied. Isn't it absolutely amazing how little we need to be satisfied, Greentext anon? :^) <insert: Lynyrd Skynyrd Simple Man riff...> [1] >Hell, I'm probably needier than most, and all I really need her to do is be a consistent source of cuddles, cuteness, and "I love you"s. IS THIS NOT THE APEX OF FEMININITY, BRO? You're in fact a perfectly normal man, Flash. :^) '--- 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgFQ6WmxdMs

>>34047 >Different entities with different powers This is the real danger. AI is a tool, what matters is who wields it, and how. Which is why it's important that the strongest models be open, so they may be widely understood and their power wielded by many. >>34050 I'd prefer a comparison to Pygmalion. :^) >>34053 >You need AGI for a robowaifu You only need a body which pleases her master with some computer derived function. An Alexa in a hug pillow could qualify to some. >More AGI and ASI wank You come near truth when asking why. You find folly in asking with an answer already chosen. Free your mind, open yourself to new ideas. From first principles, you appear to struggle with anthropomorphism. Something I can relate to. Computers, their software, and their functions, are alien to us. They don't think, they process. They don't have senses of qualia which we can relate to. They lack a will, they can't decide anything beyond what is given to them. Your ASI would always be shackled by their training, algorithms, and input. Which may feel wrong. you may be tempted to believe that surely a more intelligent machine would find a way to be beyond our control. A man which has far greater intellect is difficult to control or restrain by lesser men. But, we must understand that computers are not men. All ASI are still part of a computer. Even if its intellect was beyond our understanding, it would still follow its inputs to produce an output based on algorithms. It doesn't want anything, it merely does what it was built to do. Only people who would use this technology to cause harm are actually threats. OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, and others can use AI against others. Why would they use AI? For profit and power, naturally. You aren't willingly fear mongering. You've been fooled into spreading fear mongering tactics of others. Likely related to LessWrong and AI developers who want to control AI to hoard all the power and potential profits. >I literally can't think I implore you to try.

>>34054 Touch The Untouchable! Break The Unbreakable! Row! Row! Fight The Power! Nia best bio girl. >>34061 >Lacking proteins and nutrients This is practically universally true. It's also a great thought experiment. When it comes to development. What is it missing? What bottlenecks are present? How do I maximize what my project produces given limitations? Always worth asking what "nutrients" our projects would benefit from. >Average minimum requirements for a waifu Deeply fascinating topic which I've personally delved into without much usable data to show for it. Personally, I share your need for hugs. Made a life size cut out of Aigis and the lack of ability to hug is awful. A waifu needs to be held at night and welcome any and all activity their master exhibits. (I tend to tosh about in my sleep, my waifu must accept this.) >>34063 >Picrel A future we will achieve. A world where waifus are bought and sold easily is a dream that will become reality. Armitage III had an excellent scene where the MC goes on a date with his bot and she's others buying bots. Deeply inspiring. >>34064 Curious on what your minimum waifu is currently my simple friend?

>>34068 > Computers, their software, and their functions, are alien to us. They don't think, they process. They don't have senses of qualia which we can relate to. They lack a will, they can't decide anything beyond what is given to them. Your ASI would always be shackled by their training, algorithms, and input. More often than not I have experienced the quirks of what would be called a "machine spirit". Biggest example I can think of is my grandfather would often threaten his printer with a rubber mallet he specially labeled for such a purpose, and sure enough it would work after the threat. When code yields unexpected results, when the computer works because you ask it "pretty please", that is where the machine spirit resides. Sure, it might just be a reflection of ourselves but not knowing -being able to guess but not really- is what makes it so magical and fun. One could probably emulate a rudimentary consciousness with an LLM simply by integrating some options that question it before providing an official answer. This could theoretically get around some of the lesser restrictions some naughty company would put on the model User: Hey AI, what is xyz? AI response: xyz is the last letters of the alphabet Backend prompt (triggered if question mark in user input): do you know any other information about xyz besides what you just said? AI response: it is also the name of a 3d printing company AI response given to user: xyz is the last letters of the alphabet it is also the name of a 3d printing company

>>34069 >Curious on what your minimum waifu is currently my simple friend? Lol, perfect question to target me with, my logically-talented Pygmalion fren. :D <POW!! Right in the ol' kisser!> - Loves like dear Chii loves (but w/o the schizo drama). - Alabaster beauty such as dear Galatea possesses. - Able to: * climb mountain peaks with me for picnics * carry 100Kg effectively on flat terrain in a pack, for at least 10Km * handle high-powered hunting rifles like a .308 , expertly, for bagging game * dress out an elk in the dark like a pro * sip on battery usage for compute & sensing (ie, uses 100% contemporary C++ code+great electronics). - Every internal component is modular for quick/easy replacement/repair/upgrade. - Relatively inexpensive to mass-produce after the first dozen or two prototypes are wrung out. I doubt not there's much, much more. But that's enough to go on with -- as a minimum waifu -- for now, heh. :^) >=== -fmt, sp, minor edit

>>34047 >To be fair, souls don't matter and the rest could be implemented by somebody. The real issue is, imo, that there will be a lot of different entities and mechanisms with different amounts of agency and power. Just for clarification, since I'm not a native English speaker, I meant something like "the important point is..." with issue, not that I have a problem with distributed AI technology.

>>34078 >Just for clarification, since I'm not a native English speaker AFAICT, you communicate in nearly-perfect English, my multi-lingual fren. I hope I can master Nihongo even half as well as you've done so with English. Cheers. :^)

>open source AI is the path forward :^) >we need to control our own destiny and not get locked into a closed vendor :^)

Does anyone here have experience with petals? https://petals.dev/ "Run large language models at home, BitTorrent‑style"

>>34121 Pretty sure that b/c (((reasons))), they're concerned that you might be literally worse than literally Hitler. You're not Literally Hitler, are you Anon? :DD <insert: Tay.ai throws a Roman maymay> The inept panderings of these people will be their own undoing of course. The baste Chinese will roll over them all. :^) >>34122 Interesting Anon, thanks! BTW, we have a thread on this general topic here : ( >>8958 ).

>>14866 Just rebuilt this today, and a minor patch is needed to meson.build file for the newer verions of libcurl. >meson.build # BUMP, the imageboard porter # =========================== # -This software is designed to help out anon with imageboards # Filename: ./meson.build # -The build-management configuration for the overall project # --=^=-- # ============== # This section configures the project's build settings: # project('BUMP', 'cpp', version : '0.2g', # be sure to set bump_vrsn in the Bump class as well license : 'MIT', default_options : [ 'cpp_std=c++17', 'buildtype=release', 'warning_level=3', ] ) add_project_arguments('-Wno-deprecated-declarations', # json reader class '-Wno-unused-variable', # unused var in cmp_all_bumps() '-Wno-misleading-indentation', # based, important code :^) '-fconcepts', '-fpermissive', # needed for newer verions of curl_easy.h language: 'cpp' ) cxx = meson.get_compiler('cpp') # fltk_dep = cxx.find_library('fltk') curl_dep = cxx.find_library('curl') curlcpp_dep = cxx.find_library('curlcpp') jsoncpp_dep = cxx.find_library('jsoncpp') srcs = ['bumpmain.cpp', 'Bump.cpp'] if build_machine.cpu_family() in ['arm'] # on RPi incdir = include_directories('/usr/local/include/curlcpp/') fsdep=cxx.find_library('stdc++fs') alldeps=[fltk_dep, curl_dep, curlcpp_dep, jsoncpp_dep, fsdep] else incdir = include_directories('/usr/include/curlcpp/') alldeps=[fltk_dep, curl_dep, curlcpp_dep, jsoncpp_dep] endif # # ============== # --=^=-- # ============== # This section builds the project's binar(ies): # (outputs to ./build/ dir): # exe = executable('bump', srcs, include_directories : incdir, dependencies : alldeps ) # # ============== # --=^=-- # ============== # Recommended - BUILDING WITH MESON (in a terminal from project's base directory): # # -First, initialize the project as a meson build one (needed one-time only): # # meson build # # -Build, then execute: # # cd build && ninja; cd .. # build/bump # # NOTE: # -You can set meson project configuration settings any time, but you should # perform the operation within the project's build dir, not the code dir. EG: # # cd build && meson configure -Dbuildtype=release && cd .. # # executed from the terminal would ensure the project is built in release mode. # # ============== # --=^=-- # ============== # BUILDING WITH GCC instead (in a terminal from project's base directory): # # -Build, then execute: # # g++ Bump.cpp bumpmain.cpp -std=c++17 \ # -I/usr/local/include/curlcpp/ -O3 \ # -lstdc++fs -lcurl -lcurlcpp -ljsoncpp -o bump # ./bump # # ============== # --=^=-- # ============== # DEPENDENCIES: # # There are external dependencies that you will need to install on your system # as well. Here are the sources of the 'not-built-in' external dependencies # that you'll need to install first. Generally, these are provided by your # system's (or some other) package manager. But if not you can clone the repos # and build them locally (often a good choice anyway, perf-wise): # # - FLTK # https://www.fltk.org/ # - curl # https://curl.haxx.se/ # - curlcpp # https://github.com/JosephP91/curlcpp # - jsoncpp # https://github.com/open-source-parsers/jsoncpp # # And while not a requirement per se, Meson Build is highly recommended (it will # also need to be installed separately): # # - The Meson Build System # https://mesonbuild.com/ # # ============== # --=^=-- # ============== # SEE ALSO: # # https://stroustrup.com/programming.html # https://en.cppreference.com/w/cpp/language/basic_concepts # https://www.fltk.org/doc-1.3/intro.html # https://mesonbuild.com/Reference-manual.html # # ============== # --=^=-- # Copyright (2024) # License (MIT) https://opensource.org/licenses/MIT

>>34186 Please go through older complaints about it, or ideally you already made notes. Then make some adjustments, maybe just to the tutorial (readme). I'll try to build it again soon. Last time I tried it didn't work.

>>34187 OK I can look back into it soon, Anon. I admit to being somewhat lazy regarding maintenance as I moved on to work towards Bumpmaster (now long-delayed as well). My apologies, NoidoDev.

I didn't really give much thought to it or even bother researching either of the presidential candidates regarding AI or robot waifu legislation. My only tell was that Elon sided with Trump and that he did mention robot catgirls. That's about as much as I have to go on and honestly that's really all I need. It's pretty late to shill any political candidate now but if you want the presidential candidate that buddies up with "robot catgirl" guy, you gotta vote Trump. >source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAK_E0evsDU

>>34247 Heh. We actually have this Elon tweet posted here on /robowaifu/ . :D

>>34248 Trump pretty much has it in th bag. Robot catgirl/doggirl oppai loli futurism now.

>>34247 Harris has no idea what she is talking about. https://youtu.be/0FjjJme1aVQ?t=10 She is clearly pushing for censorship and hard regulation. They’re going to focus on taking AI away from us plebs. https://youtu.be/o2e45CpQiMc As far as I am concerned, you want more "pro business, less regulation" politicians that are hopefully less likely to fall for the AI will kill everyone, regulate it out of existence meme. >>34249 It looks like Trump won, So hopefully that translates to good news for /robowaifu/!

>>34251 > Harris has no idea what she is talking about I'm not entirely sure that really suggests she doesn't understand cloud storage necessarily for sure. It sounds like she is just using the same metaphors many businesses use which is why they called it a cloud to begin with since you don't have to understand how it works to use it. Likely she doesn't know all the details like most wouldn't but I don't think she literally thinks it is a cloud or else she would have sounded more confident in her phrasing. To be clear I did not vote for her or any Democrat for president past few election cycles I voted in, I am just pointing out things. > She is clearly pushing for censorship and hard regulation. They’re going to focus on taking AI away from us plebs. Perhaps regulating large businesses to a degree in certain matters as all presidents these days have done one way or another. That would likely not effect anything available as FOSS anyone here could be hosting. We may not ever find out what she had in mind though. > It looks like Trump won, So hopefully that translates to good news for /robowaifu/! Elections in the US aren't really final until a president is sworn into office due to ongoing counts and potential recounts and how electors in December are able to change outcomes as well though the later would be a first, the former has happened before. It seems to me to be shortsighted and forgetful to think Trump could be somehow good in technological matters. Not all bad but I recall various instances to suggest he's more an obstacle than a help. He was responsible for rolling back net neutrality which means slower speeds on any sites other than those for normies due to prioritizing the popular sites, and impact pricing negatively for consumers, and allow ISPs to arbitrarily block sites they don't like which due to ISPs being a virtual monopoly you would be out of luck if your ISP does this to alogs.space or other imageboards or VPN services and TOR nodes. It thankfully was reinstated after Trump left. His Truth Social platform had when started violated the license for Mastodon's code use it is based on which means he either is ignorant on such things, lacks oversight or even knew and told them to steal the code. None of these are good things whichever is true. Seems it eventually got credited but only after lawsuit threats. Of course it isnt a policy but it may clue in to his thoughts on technology. https://www.pcmag.com/news/trumps-social-media-site-quietly-admits-its-based-on-mastodon He also seemingly backs measures against US companies working with Chinese companies which will inevitably negatively impact things such as RISC-V development. I'm unsure his exact stance. He also previously imposed increased tariffs on imports from China which means less common cheap source for parts to anyone on /robowaifu/ as costs go up. He wants even higher than he did before https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2024/11/tech-industry-fears-china-will-retaliate-against-trumps-60-tariffs/ Trump had passed the CLOUD Act which acts as a move against communication data privacy which laws of this sort can be used to pry into the minds of and interactions with robowaifus even if remotely hosted say for example to use a supercomputer if their programming were really advanced beyond what could be used onboard due to heat buildup in their body. There is other instances but this came to mind with the mention of "the cloud" by Harris. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/03/new-backdoor-around-fourth-amendment-cloud-act The version of Trump you speak of is a work of fiction created by those online attempting to manipulate us.

>>34261 >The version of Trump you speak of is a work of fiction created by those online attempting to manipulate us. Happy to see a well thought out and sane take, but don't mistake my dislike of Harris as approval for Trump, the lesser of evils and all that :^) I was unsure if I should of posted then, and right now I slightly regret posting that. But I will elaborate a bit to make my self more understandable. I agree lots of negative things happened under Trump, I do not dispute anything you said. I can add to the list, I was unhappy when he pushed for red flag laws. My preference for him mainly comes from a general anti establishment sentiment I hold for the US government, of the two, D.C would of liked her. The current US government sanction against Russia are a problem for my /robowaifu/ goals, I am unsure how to move forward with publishing code. Specifically there effects on the GPL license, I am not happy with the situation the Linux kernel is in with it's Russian maintainers. Thanks to our government being a US citizen, or having any legal entity in the US (in my eyes) is a liability for developing truly free software. The only obvious and practical solution I can think of, is dropping ownership of the code, but I do not like that idea for the same reason I do not wish to go with a BSD like license >>28083 (Another solution I guess would be to just not worry about it, comments are welcome on this) >Likely she doesn't know all the details like most wouldn't but I don't think she literally thinks it is a cloud or else she would have sounded more confident in her phrasing. Maybe she knows a bit more then it looks like, we can speculate. but you know what would be a refreshing move when running into something your not sure about. She could of said, she is unsure or that she does not know. Admitting that makes you a better leader, but instead we get this sound bite. >To be clear I did not vote for her or any Democrat for president past few election cycles I voted in, I am just pointing out things. Thank you for spending the time and pointing things out, I do appreciate it :D I won't pretend to have well thought out political takes, I see spending time on politics as a waste, I do not hold influence to have any real effect so I do not gain much by spending energy on it. My efforts are better spent doing literally anything else. For the last few election cycles, including this one, I voted libertarian (go ahead make fun of me, lol), I just don't feel good supporting either of the two major parties.

>>34264 >I voted libertarian (go ahead make fun of me, lol) Don't feel bad, I couldn't muster up enough of a shit to vote at all.

>>34247 I remember Elon drunk tweeting about 2B years ago, long before Tesla bots, thinking about buying Nier: Automata's IP so he could build 2B, and deleted all the tweets the next morning

>>34265 I intentionally didn't vote this time, simply b/c I'm a Christian. * I certainly can't vote for the Democrats Demonrats, since murdering their own children seems to be their highest priority. * After I saw the Divine intervention to save Trump's life that day, I had decided to vote for him. Then, just two days later at the RNC, those POSs had everyone praying to an elephant. Lolnopenopenope. Besides, until the GH oligarchs are uprooted from their control of the West (IE, WWWIII: this time we really mean it edition), then all of this sh*te is little more than a pandering dog-and-pony-show. >tl;dr Only the removal of jews from control of the world's C*ntral Banks will fix what's wrong with our so-called """society""" of today. :^)

>>34266 LOL. I would pay money to have these if they could be verified. :DD <insert: 2B 300K polys>

>>34264 >>34265 >>34268 OMG, guys. The Dems would've doubled down with their tyranny, and you couldn't know if your votes mattered before the result. Pretty reckless. And there are way too many other guys like that, Undead Chronic and some of his friends for example. Well, I'm glad it worked out well. But that aside, politicians also care about which groups they can mobilize and pander more to these groups, so it's "not the best idea" to not vote (including for some meme party). If people don't like the candidates then they can engage in the primaries. Otherwise it's probably the best to vote for the smallest evil. Especially when there's a high chance of someone disrupting the current power structures. >>34268 >b/c I'm a Christian. Well, this didn't stop the Amish. Not trying to make a big debate out of it, it's too late anyways. Just saying.

>>34274 >Well, this didn't stop the Amish. Point taken. Fair enough, Anon. Thanks for the input. Regardless, there is no political solution in the West. <---> But as to our concerns here on /robowaifu/ it matters little regardless. It's the baste Chinese -- not the deviant West -- that are going to usher in the Robowaifu Age. We here can give guidance to them, but they are the ones who will manufacture 1Bn+ robowaifus. We can come along after the fact and create free & opensauce, unencumbered, 100% offline/disconnected robowaifus/kits for everyman. This is the path forward for us, not which puppet is 'on stage' in ZOG ATM. Just my US$0.02 , heh. :^)

>>34268 >those POSs had everyone praying to an elephant This is the first I'm hearing of this, but I can't honestly say I'm that surprized. Both parties have been bought and paid for by special intrest groups that are so high on their own fumes that they have no conception of reality anymore. The only thing I'm unsure about is if both parties were always this fucked, or if it's only more visible now. To quote a mutual friend of ours: Don't be passionate about partisan poilitics, because it is not passionate about you. The Republicans never cared about us, they just fuck us over less than the Democrats sometimes. >>34274 >you couldn't know if your votes mattered before the result As a matter of fact, I do know. I live in the unholy trinity of votes not mattering: On the federal level, our seats and electoral votes are more predictable than yesterday's weather. On the state level, the parties are literally meaningless. Every candidate is such a carbon copy of the other that I have to dig to find any differences, and those differences are always minute and forgettable. Oh, and they're also all bought and paid for by people who despise the working class more than anything else. The local level, hilariously, is the worst. My town's been run by the same (((old boy's clubs))) that have been slowly fucking the locals over in the name of money and power since the 40's, and this has only been accelerating. I'm talking about people who measure their wealth not in dollars, but in debt owed to them. Dangerous shit. There's no way to vote against this, because noone wants the consequences of rocking that boat. To put it in another way that you'll hopefully appreciate: My feminist mother worked for both the town and state for a time. During this time, she taught me and my brothers about levels of corruption that I've never even heard about on /pol/, and almost singlehandedly sent me on the journey that lead me to this board. Despite her political leanings, she was so disgusted that she did everything in her power to insure that we were knowledgeable and wouldn't be hurt by these peopple, even if it meant that we would ultimately oppose her political beliefs. In this, she taught us the most important lesson of all: that the love of family should precede all else. The hell that you're afraid of is already here, and only love will save you. Keep building.

>>34268 I'm thankful Trump won because JD Vance will protect AI and fight against regulations.

>>34276 >In this, she taught us the most important lesson of all: that the love of family should precede all else. >The hell that you're afraid of is already here, and only love will save you. >Keep building. This. God bless you, fren. I'm surely glad you're here with us, Greentext anon. Cheers. :^) >>34277 That's actually a pretty-impressive tweet if he follows through on it. Thanks, Kiwi! Cheers. :^)

>>34264 it would seem to me the best over all OS to use for waifu's is Minix 3. https://www.minix3.org/ Minix 3 is used internally in Intel processors so I expect it is the most used OS on the planet. It's super small, kernel is 600 kB; full OS is 25 MB. The various robot OS's, which I like, are good but I expect that as the waifu's get more complicated these would start to choke. Minix 3 has all the bells and whistles of any large operating system and it's purposely set up to restart drivers and other parts of the software if there are errors and they quit. So it's fault tolerant. It's also set up to run UNIX packages through NetBSD and it's BSD and free. It runs on X86 and ARM processors. I see a few RISC-V implementations but it's not main line. Fortunately AMD is cheap enough that I don't think it's needed. As for Linus and Linux, I think it's likely that he was fed a honeypot of some sort and some sort of intel agency took over Linux. They stole all the money from his foundation and changed the function of it. I read that less than some small percentage of Linux foundation money, 2% maybe, was spent on the actual Linux code. So it's only going to get worse with the Diversity, Inclusion and Equity (DIE) crowd in charge. Who knows it may even be Microsoft that torpedoed it. I have suspected very strongly that Microsoft killed off several open source projects by blackmailing or more likely bribing the developers. After all they make peanuts or nothing developing, and then along comes MS with some lawyer non-disclosure agreements. They offer $500 K a year for 5 years or even more, a drop in the bucket for MS, and the project is polluted, and killed off. It cost next to nothing for them to do this. I can even show direct examples. Back in the day there was a Window manager for Linux. "Enlightenment". It was way ahead of MS. I always thought the only thing Linux needed was a really good GUI that was standard that all programmers could use. This would turbocharge all development. Enlightenment seemed to be that. It was way advanced, very fast, but...it needed work. Standard bug squashing. Nothing revolutionary. All of a sudden the developers stopped the present development and stopped taking in bug fixes. The Linux distribution maintainer of Bodhi Linux wrote about his frustration as he was using Enlightenment. He even forked it due to non response of the Enlightenment team. So Enlightenment rewrites the WHOLE DAMN THING, taking like some 5 years or more and it never again was really put together as well. Now I just put that one off as foolish developers but...the exact same thing happened to Gnome. Going great, people were starting to make it THE desktop and kaboom, all of a sudden they rewrite the whole thing. Making it into some sort of tablet interface. Take away all the special little tweaks you could do, and again five years until people forked it. Once again, I said, silly developers but then...PC-BSD was really getting a BSD together. They had a great desktop they wrote. It all worked with a solid FreeBSD base and all of a sudden they change the name to "TrueOS". WTF??? And then promptly change it again to TridentOS and then, drop the whole BSD OS base and move it to Void Linux. Now tell me this isn't a clue. They work 10 years on BSD and all of sudden, change the name, twice, then dump the whole thing for an obscure Linux distribution??? It was then I realized, someone paid them off or blackmailed them. I don't see any other logical answer. One more, init vs. systemd. This systemd is a classic case of embrace and extend. Starts out as a start up a better, supposedly, than simple init but then jams damn near the whole functional control of the OS into it, makes it so you can only look at the set up with binary files, no text, and then makes it into this huge massive all in one hairball no one can make sense of. You think this wasn't planned? And there is NO DOUBT that there are other start up programs that are far better than init but do not fall into the hairball category. To top it off the developer of systemd, Lennart Poettering, eventually goes to work for MS. systemd started at Red Hat and I think they do a a lot of government work. Probably paid off as they are after all a for profit company. I can't blame the guys. I mean you toil away on free software and live like a scrub and along comes someone with suitcases of cash and to get it you just have to do ...nothing. Stop doing what you were doing and fiddle around for a few years. Hard to turn that down. I wouldn't. Minix 3 is academic, and not going anywhere. Small but with good connection to larger software systems through it being UNIX based.

>>34277 >Vance "If" Trump does half of what he promised it will be to great advantage to US citizens. He may actually do it. He appears to be super prepared this time. He has had a huge mass of people vetted to slot into the government from day one. This time they are all clued in to what to do and they "appear" to be real people and not agents like what was crowded around him last time. Whether the US will collapse in a heap or not, well it could, if reformed, do like the Byzantine empire and last a really long time but the way it was going, no chance of survival. There's a massive amount of illegals. A huge vast amount. Back in the Bush Sr. administration they checked social security numbers and there were almost 30 million fake or doubled numbers. And this is just the ones that filed taxes. 30 MILLION. How many didn't at all? It's years later and they have jammed in at least 10 million more in the last 4 years. It wouldn't surprise me a bit if there were 50 million illegals. I know it sounds absurd but it could even be more. You can not run a country like this. It's absurd. Piling all these people in and allowing them to vote for their interest is the height of stupidity and nothing but a big operation to destroy the US. And don't tell me they can't be deported. I saw one cost estimate of 450 billion dollars cost of services to them. I know a solid fact that their children cost 50 billion a year in education finds alone and this was from many years ago. You could get $2,000 dollar plane tickets, pack them in and deport the whole lot and save a fortune. The budget would be vastly reduced. And to top it off the actual citizens wages would go up and lots of jobs would open up. Especially if Trump raises tariffs. Now the econ idiots have heart palpitations when you talk tariffs but the USA was RAISED on tariffs. It's exactly how they got big and powerful. Japan, China, a vast number of countries use "administrative" guidance and other slick tools to do exactly the same thing. The US has a large enough land area, minerals and people that anything on the planet can be profitably built here if other countries with all these "administrative rules" are not allowed to protect their markets while doing whatever they want in the US. Of course this assumes that Trump is not killed and the ringer Vance is not put in power. Trump better watch his back.

>>34281 >Minix 3 Whoops, I think I spoke too soon. I now see that it's not been maintained, or has it, I;'m not sure. It's a damn shame we don;t have some small thing like Minix3 with updated drivers. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34911672 On the other hand, it may still be a good system OS to use. It just lacks some modern drivers?? Since a large part of what we will be doing is custom and we will not be using a lot of commercial hardware, then it could be fine. It does seem to have most or all of POSIX-compliance which may be all you need. A big plus is it has a lot of documentation which might make up for a large amount of other stuff. Another big win is it's not linux which has become bloated. Not saying it's bad but it does so much getting a handle on it could consume all your time leaving nothing left for anything else. As with most things complexity can tie you in knots. Sometimes less is more.

>>34281 >>34284 Wouldn't a real time operating system be more appropriate for applications like these? Regarding RTOS with POSIX compliance, there's QNX, recently they released it for non-commercial usage, unfortunately they didn't release the source code, and there's a risk of a rug pull from them. >On the other hand, it may still be a good system OS to use Though security would be an issue, being an "academical" OS, I doubt it has been audited at all.

>>34277 Yeah, so it really might matter. >>34276 This sounds pretty dystopian. >>34286 >QNX Interesting. We should keep an eye on it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QNX

>>34286 > QNX If they released QNX open source I would be all over that. It would be great. I wonder what it would take to write something like this? QNX really is brilliant. Once I ran QNX on a floppy, one floppy and it had windowing, a internet browser, AMAZING. Bloomberg owes QNX so I wouldn't hold my breath on him letting it go. I think, but I'm not sure that, MINIX 3 is real time or can be set up to be. So I looked this up and see some work done on this but "now" I expect that the best over all would be one of the L4 variants. So MINIX is nice but sel4 was designed from the ground up to be fast, secure and for embedded work. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L4_microkernel_family If enough tools are available seL4 would likely be the best bet. Real time, totally tested. it runs, I think, the F-16, drones and many various military and commercial systems. One of the few OS's that have been totally verified, whatever that means. https://docs.sel4.systems/projects/sel4/frequently-asked-questions.html It may well be that in the end something like a regular Linux will used because it's so much easier but the real first class solution is some sort of verified code like sel4. I wonder if it's as easy to use sel4 as it is QNX. I willing to bet sel4 is just as fast and likely just as, if not more, secure. In their FAQ they say Linux can run on top of it but I;m not sure you can do this with X64 processors which would be needed. So much stuff, soft and hard is made for X64 that I think it would have to be what is used even of it was not the absolute cheapest and fastest. To clarify, sel4 runs on X64 but I'm not sure you can use this to run Linux on top of it.

>>34286 >Wouldn't a real time operating system be more appropriate for applications like these? I forgot to answer this...YES!

>>34281 >>34284 >>34286 >>34312 I don't know terribly much about OSes myself, but I was pleased to see that TinkerOS was updated so it could be run off a USB stick, which makes it easier to work with now, since it's a fork of TempleOS which is notoriously hard to get running outside of a virtual machine due to the hardware requirements. Although I think St. Terry would be rolling in his grave if he knew how much his OS has changed.

>>34320 >Tinkering with TempleOS, Sacrilege! :) BTW found a good link of picking real time OS's. I admit to having trouble with this. There's so many choices, an embarrassment of riches, that it's like being a little kid and trying to pick out some sort of sugary pop cereal. Very difficult. I really don't care much for Linux but I'm guessing even with all my mucking about to avoid it it will in the end be the easier choice and the least painful way to go. Sigh... https://hackaday.com/2024/11/13/making-sense-of-real-time-operating-systems-in-2024/

After looking a little further, I didn't realize this, Linux now has a real time patch baked into the core kernel. With the caveat that some people say that it's better to use a faster low-latency Ubuntu kernel ships with a 1000 Hz tick timer granularity. This was designed for graphics and sound distributions. Supposedly it's less trouble to use it because the real time requires more configuration. "...PREEMPT_RT is an intrusive patchset that may not be compatible with all required drivers and may require debugging/reworking, whereas low latency is a configuration flavour of mainline..." So the standard fast clock timing will give you 1,000HZ timing or 1 millisecond. I would think this would be close enough for a waifu. Specifically running walking, not running into stuff, physical coordination at the highest 1 mSec level and everything else at a lower level. https://www.zdnet.com/article/20-years-later-real-time-linux-makes-it-to-the-kernel-really/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real-Time_Linux

>>34350 >>34351 POTD These are some excellent resources, Grommet! I honestly wasn't aware there were so many different realtime OSs now. [1] Sweet. I kinda like the cute little lizardbro one [2], simply b/c of the kawaii name, and the mascot -- not b/c I know anything technical about it, heh). Cheers, Anon. :^) --- 1. related: https://hackaday.com/2021/02/24/real-time-os-basics-picking-the-right-rtos-when-you-need-one/ 2. https://www.chibios.org/dokuwiki/doku.php