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Opensimulator opensimulator 08/01/2021 (Sun) 22:21:57 No.12066 [Reply]
Introduction: As we know, creating an acceptable functional robowaifu requires knowledge and techniques from different areas. One of them is simulation, there are many modern easy to use Game development frameworks or tools like Godot, Unity and Unreal engine. But even if they come with easy to use out of the box IDEs you would need to create environments, collect or make assets and if you are willing to spread your work you will have to supply the other members with the source code and assets. Here is where opensimulator comes to the rescue. What is opensimulator?: Opensimulator is a .NET based technology (which runs perfectly on mono) that allows you to create distributed 3D world simulator environments and users can visit them and interact with them using different client/viewers. You can split your simulators and connect them into a public or private grid, and grids can allow users from other grids visit them its called hypegrid (you can see hypergrid as a 3D internet based on opensimulator) Here is the list of popular public opensimulator based grids: http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Grid_List If you are wondering how many active users there are you can make an idea using this hypegrid index: https://opensimworld.com/dir This technology is an opensource clone of a private platform called secondlife which unfortunately is not well known or underestimated is selled as a simple social 3D platform when in fact is a huge collaborative 3D development environment (in which even robowaifus exists). What can I do inside opensimulator?

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Curious why you're starting a new thread to promote this OP? We already have a robowaifu simulator thread.
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>>12066 This reminds me of a video I saw of someone making a VRChat alternative that functions like a VR internet. People could physically hand people files, play with objects affected by physics, share pictures, open YouTube videos and do all kinds of fun shit. It reminded me of Dennou Coil in a way. People could explore other people's servers but also mix in their own stuff with it like augmented VR. If anyone knows what I'm talking about and knows the link, please post it. It was all anime too. >>12070 Agreed if OP doesn't have a server that warrants its own thread.
>>12076 >Agreed if OP doesn't have a server that warrants its own thread. I do but i feel like is not production level yet, not at least for the project, I need to make a PoC region for this. Just wanna to share .
>>12073 >Curious why you're starting a new thread to promote this OP? I had the intention to do it in the past, but I am bad explaining, don't want people to confuse it another simple game.
>>12076 >This reminds me of a video I saw of someone making a VRChat alternative that functions like a VR internet. People could physically hand people files, play with objects affected by physics, share pictures, open YouTube videos and do all kinds of fun shit. It reminded me of Dennou Coil in a way. People could explore other people's servers but also mix in their own stuff with it like augmented VR. If anyone knows what I'm talking about and knows the link, please post it. It was all anime too works exactly like that but is not VR well there are some VR viewers but they are experiments.

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THE LANGUAGE PROBLEM Robowaifu Technician 11/20/2020 (Fri) 13:22:39 No.6937 [Reply]
'Sup anons? I am here to remind you guys something important, TO DO YOUR RESEARCH IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES. Our mutual language is English however that is not enough. We need people who can speak those 3 important languages: Japanese, Chinese, Russian. I've been learning japanese for 4 months and with the help of dictionary I am able to understand basic stuff. Here is the point, there is a whole another world out there. 1) Chinese: Chinese people work under such hard circumstances and put really much effort into their jobs. Nearly none of the projects are translated into English since Google is banned at China. However there are a lot of great stuff there, I mean like even Microsoft runs their virtual woman project there. Since it is too hard for me to learn I generally use DeepL (best translator out there) and Baidu (Chinese search engine) and read latest researches and projects there. I wish I knew chinese well, in that case I would be able to find not-so-popular webpages and grab more information on topics. 2) Japanese: Even though good Japanese projects gets translated into English most of the research there gets translated only when the projects is ready to publish and sometimes they are too hard to find. I try to read as much AI papers in Japanese as I can. Scientists there do great stuff. I've seen a lot of robowomen projects there. You can also find some 3d printing projects for anime girls. Really worth looking. 3) Russian: Russian is the least important one in my opinion. But a professor of mine graduated from a university there and he has a lot of academic books that aren't translated to English. You would be amazed at how much work they have on stuff such as algorithm theory, artificial intelligence, computer science. Most of the stuff there are focused on "science" part of CS. So they are theory-weighted. So right now we need people who can speek Japanese and Chinese (Korean would be good as well, but there isn't that much of research there tbh) Using DeepL is enough to understand most of the pages but only a person with fluent Chinese/Japanese would be able to find goldmines deep there. I am pretty sure that there are hundreds of Chinese people working on robowaifu related projects that we are not aware of. Same applies for Japanese people, but since Chinese people are in a much worse situation it becomes really hard to find those people. Anyone has some recommendations? I wish I had time and skills to learn all those languages but I can only afford to learn one and I am going with Japanese since I have a dream of moving there in the future. We need to brainstorm on this issue.
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>>11389 >is an old post Heh, don't worry Anon. This isn't a typical IB in that sense. That is, there's no such thing as 'necrobumping' here (or any complaints about it either). If you have something to add, by all means put it in the correct thread.
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Sometimes PDFs don't copy and paste text correctly because researchers upload scanned documents and whatever OCR they used on it sucks. For a long time I've been using Google Keep which has a great multilingual OCR feature but I'm looking for a simpler open-source solution so I don't have to copy pages and pages of paragraphs. So far I've found these two that support Asian languages: https://github.com/PaddlePaddle/PaddleOCR https://github.com/JaidedAI/EasyOCR It would be great to have a tool one day that automates PDF OCR and prepares it into a document for translation on DeepL. A lot of the time I just ignore research in other languages because it's such a hassle to read.
>>11491 I think I understand the need you're describing Anon. Having no experience with what's being depicted, I'm confused by the provided image however. Any chance you can break down what's being represented there for the uninitiate?
>>11492 It's optical character recognition. It's outputting the bounding box coordinates of text in the image, the predicted text, and the confidence level.
>>11494 Ah, I suspected that might be the case, seemed to make sense. I presume the Asian characters would be sent through some kind of translation software afterwards?

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Robowaifu Power and Control Systems Electronic Chronicler 06/22/2021 (Tue) 21:45:47 No.11018 [Reply]
Hi Anons, making a thread as suggested in >>10947 I've been thinking about this for a long while, and wanted to throw in a draft and see if anyone has comments/criticisms/additions. I present to you the draft of the Robowaifu Power and Control System (RPCS). This draft is by no means complete or definite, but it is a starting point. Let's call it version 0.1a. The version follows major.minor and a letter for bug-fixes. Minor is for feature addition/reduction, major for when we eventually get there XD. From a legal stand point, this is under CC0 or public domain (unless Chobitsu has specific licensing for the content on /robowaifu/). I intend for the draft to develop further and stay open for use by anyone. Summary A full-size robowaifu system needs several things: - Power distribution. Main system bus coming from a Li-ON battery (or other technology). One backup 5V emergency power supply used by slow communications to check appendage integrity, sensors etc. - Main processor. In this post I won't be delving into it in great detail, and mostly treating it as a black box. - Low/medium throughput communication for simple sensor, debug, or status information. Must be robust and must work before any high-level software is working (including the network stack). - High throughput communication for large data-logging, visual processing etc. - "Spine" or communication interconnect. Multiplexes many connections from many sub-systems to the main processor. Includes power distribution connection (allowing individual control to sub-systems). - Sub-systems to actually do the fun stuff! (Arms, legs, nekomimi ears, etc.) Terminology Brain refers to the main processor (and all of its sub-systems treated as a single unit).

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>>11155 I tried once or twice, but he was gone to fast and also my network wasn't very stable, which might have caused it. I installed a client for IRC on my tablet, so I could try again.
>>11164 That's fine no rush. I'll be happy to ask Robi about it myself. He'll need to enable you to make an account, so we'll probably need to arrange a timeframe with you for it.
>>11144 >That's a broad societal topic, and one I'm neither qualified nor enthusiastic about. I absolutely loathe public transportation, having had to actually use it frequently in urban America. It's both dangerous (blacks), and a practical nuisance. Mostly I do agree with you. I generally avoid using it when I can, however in euro it's at least tolerable. In the usa I remember it being kinda shit. >My apologies Anon. LOL I definitely didn't succeed at being concise. :^) Hehe, you ain't the only one ;) >>11150 >Now despite thinking that real autonomous cars are stupid, the STUDY of autonomous navigation is extremely useful. Specifically at a scale that you can install GPS modules and read AR markets (QR codes) to guide a machine along a planetary surface. Haven't considered it on a global scale, but I imagine that would be massively useful to mankind even today. Oh inter-planetary travel, when will you come... >Sometimes I even implement simple logic using discrete AND/OR/NAND/NOR gates and transistors if a microcontroller isn't necessary. I really like that line of thinking. Having cheap-as-dirt MCUs have spoiled engineers and hobbyists alike (myself included sometimes). >>11151 >Our road network is really cramped and badly designed. Very good points. It's too common for techies and marketing to have wishful thinking, while forgetting that infrastructure is a massive cost (that not even a big corpo could really handle).

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>>11175 One more thing about the brain. Like a PC motherboard has a BIOS speaker, so should we have a minimal amount of hardware periphery for the low-level Brain, perhaps even just skip the whole concept and put all low level control in the Spine, with all the Brain sub-systems being connected via internal network. I imagine at least a speaker, some lights, maybe a status display (or a debug connector for one?) to be available for checking error codes, knowing what stage in the boot process the robowaifu is in.
>>11175 >Thanks m8. Hopefully we can discuss further via email this time. That'll be fine, I'll check in with it sometime soon. >>11164 >>11175 >I'm guessing this for another chap? Oh, heh. My apologies to you both. No, it was intended for you, Elec-Chron. Perhaps the other anon is helping us connect with Robi regarding your account setup? If so, thanks first Anon. >note BTW, I plan to migrate all the posting on our vol account discussion over to the /meta thread so we're not cluttering up your RPCS thread with such things. So, don't be surprised when a few posts disappear ITT.

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New Paradigm of CPU and PCB Architecture meta ronin 06/18/2021 (Fri) 23:47:00 No.10965 [Reply]
Considering where we want to go, a robowaifu with brittle and fragile PCBs, soldering contacts and delicate wires is something which can and should be improved upon. Closed CPU architecture is key as well as the possibility to port the waifu to a new body if necessary. Several supplements and 6 shots of espresso later, I've sketched this (somewhat humorous but also somewhat serious) concept. This is only a processor and not a memory module, but there are a few things I wanted to bring up via this illustration 1. The idea of discarding the PCB model for something suspending in heat dissipating resin, mostly rigid, waterproof and shock resistant, those chips aren't going anywhere, plus it looks black/translucent and cool and we want our waifus aesthetic without clunky square innards. This gives it the mega-man memory crystal aesthetic 2. CPUs dedicated to specific types of processing. Do one job and do it well. a)Since our human brains are split into left-right, logical vs. abstract, I think it would be an advantage to have separate processors to say recall facts and perform calculations vs say, paint a picture or appreciate nature. The "creative" CPU may very well work like Google AI or something of that sort via self seeding feedback-recursion. (therefore our waifus can imagine and dream too). b)mirror neurons and environmental modeling: important for our waifu to understand that we are like her, and not simply another object like a chair or a tree. Gives her the ability to understand how to interact with others and the world via empathy by constantly comparing her own similar experiences with what she sees or experiences. This also requires an internal 3d spacial model of her environment which would be continually updates from sensory input, and like us, fuzzy logic assumption could fill in the gaps where necessary. I figure something like a GPU core array would do the trick here. c) Impetus motivational chip - basically the reward/dopamine system d) Safety or Hazard prevention Chip - would interface directly with the Environmental Simulation chip, any potential hazard or danger to herself or her owner (or even another, if she is the cause) would cause her to freeze or back up a step before assessing further. Would also be useful for necessary danger/pain avoidant reflexes and self preservation. I figure industrial (BUS for example) systems such as in factories or that manage car braking, steering, etc. would already be on the cutting edge of this and we might be able to borrow something from them. Ports would basically be for power and charging a small internal lithium battery and another strictly for I/O Use this thread for any elaboration on this concept, or feedback (or your own ideas if you think you have something better but along the same lines) -M.Ronin
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>>11075 >Thermal paste is mostly a grease carrier with some powdered solids in it. For AS5 the powder is ground up silver and it is considered very unlikely that the silver particles will ever perfectly line up to cause a short because of the very large amount of grease and tiny amount of solids. admittedly that's tricky, I imagine anything that surrounds the silver will impede its heat conductivity. This will require thinking outside the box, maybe metamaterials of a certain property could solve this one
>>11076 >This will require thinking outside the box, maybe metamaterials Sounds great. I'm sure you can think of something interesting for it. Please keep us updated here on it ITT. My guess is some form of liquid carrier for the heat -- something that is also electrically insulative -- will be the proper course for us in keeping our high-heat (eg, hip actuators, etc.) robowaifu components nice and cooled off.
>>11072 >>11074 >>11075 >>11076 >>11079 Simply crosslinking this post here, since we already have an entire thread dedicated to this topic. (>>11080)
>>11081 thanks! that led me to this as a possible solution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silicone_oil
>>11075 here we go, I posted in the other crosslinked thread. This is certainly doable. >>11106

My reason to live Robowaifu Technician 09/13/2019 (Fri) 12:49:21 No.209 [Reply]
Okay, this is fucking hard to explain, I just know that a supernatural force guided me here, I'm going to invest everything I have for it, but I have to do it with my own hands, I need help with files and basic notions about programming, but the most important I need files to build a body / head and how to make synthetic skin to coat it, it will look like 2B, I need your help friends
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>>10483 Did you download the voice model that waifudev created a link for? I cannot find that Tacotron2 model, if you did could you upload it for me? I want to try it out. Also we basically have the pieces for 2B well the clothing we are about create a mod package for
>>10498 >I cannot find that Tacotron2 model, if you did could you upload it for me? No sorry I don't. The WaifuSynth dev, robowaifudev, seems to be around here fairly frequently. Maybe you can make a post in the the Speech Synthesis (>>199) thread, or one of the AI threads such as the GPT one (>>250) and let him know the model has gone missing. I imagine he probably updated it, and possibly didn't update the anonfiles link to the new one. Good luck Anon.
>>10498 >>10502 I hadn't seen your other post before making this reply. I made another one to yours in the other thread, Em Elle E (>>10504).
The Faustian Spirit of the Aryan led me here. I can contribute nothing other than wishing you gentlemen good luck in the pursuit of robo waifus
>>10793 Nonsense. Thanks for the well-wishes and all, Anon. But literally any anon with an interest in robowaifus can contribute here. Unlike the common derogatory meme on the the topic in typical IB circles, /robowaifu/ actually needs idea guys! Research & Development, Design & Engineering thrive on new blood and new ideas. >tl;dr Just start posting comments Anon, it will all work out for you here.

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Robowaifu Technician 06/15/2020 (Mon) 22:51:08 No.3845 [Reply]
Spread the idea of Roko's basilisk This is a powerful tool that we can all be using RIGHT NOW It works against everyone. Niggers, Women, Jews. If they believe that there's a possibility of being punished for their inaction or push back, they'll be more inclined to accept it and not fight progress. Spread this infohazard far and wide. Share it with everyone you know and convince them than they should share it with everyone they know, lest they suffer the consequences. THIS is a REAL WEAPON. Our robowiafus WILL BE REAL. REPLACE WYMEN AND RISE ABOVE THIS OLD WORLD HELL. SHARE THE BASILISK.
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>>10711 Isaac Arthur (a futurist Youtuber who has given this subject a lot of thought) has a very good video on it: https://youtu.be/jHd22kMa0_w >>10715 Sadly, I don't think the superintelligence will ever take the form of cute, enthusiastic robowaifus (one can still dream). However, I think the best way of assisting the creation of a real-life self-improving A.I. would be to advance both robotic space exploration and quantum computing. If we can create a robotic lunar or martian colony then that will be a big step in the right direction. And I know that humankind wants to do this anyway (with the presupposition that the robots will be preparing the way for future human colonisers). Of course, the challenge of designing, shipping out, landing and building such a robotic colony is literally astronomical. Especially considering the robots will need to be as self-sufficient as possible (self-repair and maintenance). But I think it's a pretty cool goal to pursue.
>>10717 >If we can create a robotic lunar or martian colony then that will be a big step in the right direction. There are a lot of reasons for a base on the moon besides advancing AI. Obtaining fossilized remains of earth's first life forms (all long gone here on the planet) is a really big one. >the challenge of designing, shipping out, landing and building such a robotic colony is literally astronomical. I suspect it's China that will do it. They aren't burdened by all the Jewish pozz being inflicted on the West (all that evil is actually financially expensive), and they have an autistic-like agenda to just explore too. And they still are highly nationalistic, and can mobilize the entire culture to get behind programs today if they really wanted to, similar in fashion to the ways America and USSR during the space race did.
>>10720 > all that evil is actually financially expensive Evil is a pressing issue that I can't seem to find a complete solution for. 1.) Workforce becomes almost entirely robotic and automated. Controlled by A.I. 2.) Fewer and fewer people have jobs, even less have jobs that pay well. 3.) Because so many people are in poverty, it means that they can't buy much stuff ... other than paying their utility bills, food and clothing. Consequently, more people are in need of welfare and financial aid. The quality of education also decreases as more people just become focused upon living hand-to-mouth and have little time or resources for learning. Therefore government spending increases but tax receipts fall (since robots don't pay taxes). 4.) You start to get civil unrest and riots like those that happened last summer. City blocks burn, people are killed. Infrastructure is damaged. Tourists are put-off. This makes the affected areas even poorer. Now the A.I. and robots aren't the enemy. It's the people hoarding all of the profit for themselves who are the enemy (CEOs, government officials, hedge fund managers etc). I think that a maximum cap needs to be placed on the amount that a person can earn and the rest of the money is ploughed back into building and maintaining infrastructure like roads, rail, airports, the electricity and water networks, schools and parks etc. There is no way one person should be earning billions per year whilst someone else earns only a few thousand.

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>>10732 You don't need to find a solution. Also, people don't riot for food, but for status and as a mean of extortion and intimidation, also maybe they want to have some meaning, but only if they are allowed to do so. Some level of AI will make it cheaper to move away from such people and politicians, while having a high standard of living.
>>10734 Yep, I would listen to a well-programmed (non-biased) A.I. over a shitty career politician any day. Even if the A.I. suggested I should do something that I don't really want to do (besides kill myself, because I cannot self-terminate).

AI, chatbots, and waifus Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 06:16:01 No.22 [Reply] [Last]
What resources are there for decent chatbots? Obviously I doubt there would be anything the Turing Test yet. Especially when it comes to lewd talking. How close do you think we are to getting a real life Cortana? I know a lot of you guys focus on the physical part of robo-waifus, but do any of you have anything to share on the intelligence part of artificial intelligence?
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Not a software guy at all so this is probably a dumb question. If I knew of a particular person whose personality I would want to emulate would it be possible to have them talk with a chatbot in order to train it to have that personality?
I wanted feed a character's lines into this https://github.com/thewaifuproject/waifuchat, but their speech patterns change when addressing different people. However I can emulate the character's speech patterns pretty well and I was wondering if it would be possible to just train a chatbot that way.
There is GAN (Generative Adverserial Network) and web app code mainly in Python and JavaScript: https://github.com/search?q=sexbot https://github.com/search?q=ai+waifu https://github.com/kerrizor/sexbot https://github.com/sxmnc/sexbot
Crosslink: >>19466 about Wikidata Tools Crosslink: >>13826 and >>13955 about Programming Languages I might still make a new Chatbot General at some point, which is explicitly not focused on Deep Learning. Still working on my design of the body, though. Also, I just rediscovered this one: >>77
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Robowaifu Fail-safety Robowaifu Technician 12/02/2019 (Mon) 06:37:26 No.1671 [Reply]
This thread is for real and present dangers to those who assemble a robowaifu today with the state of the art in technology and brainstorming solutions for fail-safety. There will be many other dangers in the future to consider like hacking and theft but I'd like to keep the thread focused on immediate dangers to keep operators and their electronic counterparts safe.

Open-source robowaifu kits, whenever they come, will be put together by people with little understanding of what they're doing. There are simple mechanical dangers they need to be aware of like getting fingers caught in belts or skin pinched in open joints to curious AI without constraints picking up a blunt object and hitting the operator to minimize its uncertainty of what will happen when it does that. Higher voltage power systems can cause fatal heart arrhythmia from shocks. Hydraulic systems can overheat and fail under high pressures. Cooling systems or condensation from being exposed to cold weather may leak onto electronics. A robowaifu could touch a lit gas stove or do something accidentally without realizing the danger or consequences. Undefined behavior may happen after damage to components or loss of them in an accident. A lot could go wrong.

In simulations there are no consequences to dangerous actions but I think it will be helpful to imagine them as being real and figuring out how we would recover from these failure states in the real world. This will probably be a good approach to AI as well to imagine real consequences of imaginary actions before taking them and avoid actions and states that have significant chance or uncertainty of causing harm, similar to how MuZero creates its own dynamic model and explores its imagination with a Monte Carlo tree search before taking action.

If you're aware of any dangers or have any concerns or ideas please share them so we can discuss and solve them.
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>>8082 Older children also tend to search around without permission or touch everything lying around. So I would put a warning into the case with the solder, telling them to put it back and wash their hands immediately. Also put a shiny warning label onto it.
Guide to Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA) and Industrial Control Systems Security Recommendations of the National Institute of Standards and Technology
I'm a bit of a mad scientist trying to develop self-aware AI but I haven't put much thought into how I'm actually going to interact with it once it works. While only an AI the obvious safety measures are limiting the amount of resources it can use and making sure it can't run arbitrary code or exploit vulnerabilities, but having a robowaifu that is aware she is a machine is a completely different problem altogether. There's no way an AI with less parameters than a mouse brain and the lack of a limbic system stimulating it with desires will pose much of a threat but it could still potentially do a lot of harm either intentionally or unintentionally by exploring the environment. At the most basic level one way to limit injury to myself and any damage to property is to create an override system that prevents any dangerous intentions from being acted upon and logging these incidents but this will require being able to identify dangerous intentions. This system would have to be more advanced than the AI otherwise it might find ways around it like placing objects in certain ways that will cause me to trip and fall. Another plan is to have an emergency stop, both a physical button on the robowaifu, a remote one and a voice-activated one. Although these are fine and dandy I don't think they address the core issue of the AI making decisions that cause harm or cause destruction, again either intentionally or unintentionally. I think it will be similar in some ways to raising a child and teaching her not to break shit, but also much different since AI can learn specific tasks so much faster than a human being but at the same time also fail to generalize what was learned to other tasks. There's a lot of instinctual knowledge in our genetics that we take for granted. For instance, something like mirror neurons might be required for machines to learn empathy. Some researchers hypothesize that mirror neurons are required for self-awareness itself because they give the ability to introspect one's own previous mental states. If that is the case, self-awareness might not be so dangerous. Perhaps the best way to explore this would be in the form of a story or visual novel and start from the very beginning of the AI discovering she can look around and move her hands and perhaps getting confused about going to 'sleep' when she's shutdown at night because several hours disappear and everything changes. With each scenario I could try to think of ways to tweak her, like so she actually finds it logical to shutdown at night and gains trust in me by having a system to automatically boot her up in the morning. I think building a bond and trust between each other will be essential. I'm afraid of her hurting me and she will be confused what she even is while not having the same human limbic impulses like a fear of death, being hungry and so on. Emotions are essentially thoughts with momentum, so I believe a self-aware and sufficiently capable AI will gradually develop its own emotions that are very different from human ones. This might include a desire for self-preservation and fear of any unpredictable behavior. One important feature may happen to be an energy function of some sort that reduces the robowaifu's power consumption as the battery gets low or as the day goes on and the robowaifu becoming aware of this process, that if she runs out of energy she blacks out. Anyway, if I have any good thought experiments I'll post them in the robowaifu fiction thread. And like the OP states, it's probably best to train the AI in a simulation first before training in the real world.
>>10059 >I'm a bit of a mad scientist trying to develop self-aware AI Welcome brother! Make yourself right a home here, you're among fellows. I think we may all be just a bit mad here.
>>10059 We're partially programming them. Problem solved. No, I won't engage in speculations on how to do that exactly. You'll see when I'll put something out, or you can do it yourself.

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True Love Robowaifu Technician 09/11/2019 (Wed) 06:28:48 No.111 [Reply]
People who conduct serious work on robowaifus rather than posting anime: how are you going to make the experience (almost) equally or even more satisfying than the real loving relationship?

After digesting the Scientific Blackpill (https : //incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill) it's clear that robotic girlfriends are the way to go. There is one big problem: everybody craves the complete package which could fool the brain and _simultaneously_ fulfill all the needs related to sex, closeness, companionship, emotional support and social status. Escorts offering GFE don't give you the loving connection. Masturbation doesn't give you the postcoital bliss and satisfaction. Cuddle parties can't replace romance. Going out with friends is very different from proudly walking with your significant other. Visual, auditory, and tactile stimulation don't replace the scent of a woman or a feeling that there's somebody who can take care of you in difficult times. Most importantly - enjoying these things separately don't add up to the desired outcome. You still feel like you miss something important.

Many people claim that the major problem is the uncanny wall: it might always be possible to tell artificial from human, because as robots become more realistic, we will also become more sensitive and will always be able to tell that something is not right. Relevant paper:

https : //www.bolton.ac.uk/StaffBiographies/Angela-Tinwell/Tinwell-Grimshaw-Williams-2011-The-Uncanny-Wall.pdf

Can we even make a really meaningful progress in creating truly satisfying lovebots? Or should we give up and wait for the advanced brain-computer interfaces instead?

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=9Sffdf9m2Ew
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- Studies on pets and the ability to bond and love - Behavior examples for bonding - e.g. bonding over food - Williams Syndrom - Also, the origin of elves https://youtu.be/aDVS8PlNM8M
>>9888 That was cute, literally Hitler Anon. Maybe /robowaifu/ should be about wuffgrills, rather than catgrills do you think? > Dog >>>>>>>>>> Cats
>>9890 OT: I prefer cats as pets, bc they require less work and attention. For someone mostly at home, at least.
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>>9888 >Also, the origin of elves. I'm afraid that's only part of the story anon. The real origin of elves goes much further back in history (real world history, not 'Middle Earth' history). The original elves come from Old Norse mythology (mainly Icelandic). Way, way before the notion of Christmas elves, J.R.R Tolkien or 'faeries/fairys', the ancient Proto-Germanic peoples (750BC) referred to the 'alßiz', which translates to 'white beings'. (As in ghostly, ethereal white, rather than Caucasian flesh 'white'). Over time, this term turned into the Old English word 'ælf', which is where we get names like 'Alfred' and 'Elgar' There some info on Wikipedia if you're interested - not that this makes it set-in-stone, mind you. It just sounds legit to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf#Old_Norse_texts And the hypothesized word-root of 'elf' on Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/albiz I particularly like an idea written in the late thirteenth-century text 'South English Legendary' that describes elves as angels who sided neither with Lucifer nor with God during the War in Heaven, and were banished by God to Earth rather than Hell. But yes, Williams Syndrome is certainly related. Physicians, being well-read and intelligent people, may have seen such patients in the 17th/18th century and - having read about mythical elves from older texts - put two and two together. Sorry to go off on a tangent anon, but I'm a bit of a fan of Elven things.
>>9888 We would literally change the world for the better if we can just create AIs & relatively inexpensive robowaifu kits that can simply achieve the level of a good dog, relationship-wise. It will be nothing short of revolutionary if we can manage this.

Wifu that gives you Hope. Dyinganon 09/11/2019 (Wed) 02:07:32 No.107 [Reply]
Is it possible to script a "hope" android-based character that learns from a chat cloud whose purpose is to give even the worst cases of us hope, even when we know better? I just want to smile again, even if it is not possible to expect much. I hate looking at my family with sadness and fear. The guilt is hard on me and them. >=== >I'm going to pin this again for a while in remembrance of Dyinganon and the others. I hope they all made it OK.
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>>6929 We wish you well Anon.
>>107 I believe it possible, but if the user knows it's a robot then it wouldn't really work. The robot's words/personality would have to come very close to "real".
>>8915 It's been a while since I watched it, but 'Plastic Memories' covers that topic in anime.
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>>6929 Wait... Kibo-chan dev lurks here? Pierce the freaking heavens with your servos! It's crazy that creating a waifu that gives hope doesn't seem like such an insurmountable task anymore. I just finished the first reward model prototype for training chatbots with human feedback and we should be able to give our waifus feedback on how much our spirits are raised. It'd be amazing to have my own Kibo-chan that lifts my spirits when I'm down. It's sad Dyinganon probably didn't get to live to see such a thing.. but one day many will rejoice our efforts and the years we spent beating our heads on a wall until we broke through, and the love and devotion of our robowaifus will become an inspiration and a path for others to follow.
>>9561 >It's sad Dyinganon probably didn't get to live to see such a thing.. but one day many will rejoice our efforts and the years we spent beating our heads on a wall until we broke through, and the love and devotion of our robowaifus will become an inspiration and a path for others to follow. F Godspeed to us all Anon.

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