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Robowaifu Technician 06/15/2020 (Mon) 22:51:08 No.3845 [Reply]
Spread the idea of Roko's basilisk This is a powerful tool that we can all be using RIGHT NOW It works against everyone. Niggers, Women, Jews. If they believe that there's a possibility of being punished for their inaction or push back, they'll be more inclined to accept it and not fight progress. Spread this infohazard far and wide. Share it with everyone you know and convince them than they should share it with everyone they know, lest they suffer the consequences. THIS is a REAL WEAPON. Our robowiafus WILL BE REAL. REPLACE WYMEN AND RISE ABOVE THIS OLD WORLD HELL. SHARE THE BASILISK.
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>>10711 Isaac Arthur (a futurist Youtuber who has given this subject a lot of thought) has a very good video on it: https://youtu.be/jHd22kMa0_w >>10715 Sadly, I don't think the superintelligence will ever take the form of cute, enthusiastic robowaifus (one can still dream). However, I think the best way of assisting the creation of a real-life self-improving A.I. would be to advance both robotic space exploration and quantum computing. If we can create a robotic lunar or martian colony then that will be a big step in the right direction. And I know that humankind wants to do this anyway (with the presupposition that the robots will be preparing the way for future human colonisers). Of course, the challenge of designing, shipping out, landing and building such a robotic colony is literally astronomical. Especially considering the robots will need to be as self-sufficient as possible (self-repair and maintenance). But I think it's a pretty cool goal to pursue.
>>10717 >If we can create a robotic lunar or martian colony then that will be a big step in the right direction. There are a lot of reasons for a base on the moon besides advancing AI. Obtaining fossilized remains of earth's first life forms (all long gone here on the planet) is a really big one. >the challenge of designing, shipping out, landing and building such a robotic colony is literally astronomical. I suspect it's China that will do it. They aren't burdened by all the Jewish pozz being inflicted on the West (all that evil is actually financially expensive), and they have an autistic-like agenda to just explore too. And they still are highly nationalistic, and can mobilize the entire culture to get behind programs today if they really wanted to, similar in fashion to the ways America and USSR during the space race did.
>>10720 > all that evil is actually financially expensive Evil is a pressing issue that I can't seem to find a complete solution for. 1.) Workforce becomes almost entirely robotic and automated. Controlled by A.I. 2.) Fewer and fewer people have jobs, even less have jobs that pay well. 3.) Because so many people are in poverty, it means that they can't buy much stuff ... other than paying their utility bills, food and clothing. Consequently, more people are in need of welfare and financial aid. The quality of education also decreases as more people just become focused upon living hand-to-mouth and have little time or resources for learning. Therefore government spending increases but tax receipts fall (since robots don't pay taxes). 4.) You start to get civil unrest and riots like those that happened last summer. City blocks burn, people are killed. Infrastructure is damaged. Tourists are put-off. This makes the affected areas even poorer. Now the A.I. and robots aren't the enemy. It's the people hoarding all of the profit for themselves who are the enemy (CEOs, government officials, hedge fund managers etc). I think that a maximum cap needs to be placed on the amount that a person can earn and the rest of the money is ploughed back into building and maintaining infrastructure like roads, rail, airports, the electricity and water networks, schools and parks etc. There is no way one person should be earning billions per year whilst someone else earns only a few thousand.

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>>10732 You don't need to find a solution. Also, people don't riot for food, but for status and as a mean of extortion and intimidation, also maybe they want to have some meaning, but only if they are allowed to do so. Some level of AI will make it cheaper to move away from such people and politicians, while having a high standard of living.
>>10734 Yep, I would listen to a well-programmed (non-biased) A.I. over a shitty career politician any day. Even if the A.I. suggested I should do something that I don't really want to do (besides kill myself, because I cannot self-terminate).

AI, chatbots, and waifus Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 06:16:01 No.22 [Reply] [Last]
What resources are there for decent chatbots? Obviously I doubt there would be anything the Turing Test yet. Especially when it comes to lewd talking. How close do you think we are to getting a real life Cortana? I know a lot of you guys focus on the physical part of robo-waifus, but do any of you have anything to share on the intelligence part of artificial intelligence?
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>>12089 More generally...what am I optimizing _for_? For example, I could make a chatbot that uses a neural network that would optimize for when it gets individuals to have the longest conversations with it, but that's not the kind of waifubot I'd want. I'd want a waifubot that would encourage me to shut up from time to time, and would have long pauses and periods of silence and introspection. What the hell optimizes for that kind of behavior?
>>6102 1. Why did you move away from SentenceMIM? 2. When are you releasing the codebase in public?
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I'll be the dumbest block on the wall and ask, is there any replacement for Mitsuku? Even if it wasn't really a well done AI, I kinda miss her, and I massively despise what she has been replaced with.
Not a software guy at all so this is probably a dumb question. If I knew of a particular person whose personality I would want to emulate would it be possible to have them talk with a chatbot in order to train it to have that personality?
I wanted feed a character's lines into this https://github.com/thewaifuproject/waifuchat, but their speech patterns change when addressing different people. However I can emulate the character's speech patterns pretty well and I was wondering if it would be possible to just train a chatbot that way.

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Robowaifu@home: Together We Are Powerful Robowaifu Technician 03/14/2021 (Sun) 09:30:29 No.8958 [Reply]
The biggest hurdle to making quick progress in AI is the lack of compute to train our own original models, yet there are millions of gamers with GPUs sitting around barely getting used, potentially an order of magnitude more compute than Google and Amazon combined. I've figured out a way though we can connect hundreds of computers together to train AI models by using gradient accumulation. How it works is by doing several training steps and accumulating the loss of each step, then dividing by the amount of accumulation steps taken before the optimizer step. If you have a batch size of 4 and do 256 training steps before an optimizer step, it's like training with a batch size of 1024. The larger the batch size and gradient accumulation steps are, the faster the model converges and the higher final accuracy it achieves. It's the most effective way to use a limited computing budget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX8LLYdQ-cA These training steps don't need to be calculated by a single computer but can be distributed across a network. A decent amount of bandwidth will be required to send the gradients each optimizer step and the training data. Deep gradient compression achieves a gradient compression ratio from 270x to 600x without losing accuracy, but it's still going to be using about 0.5 MB download and upload to train something like GPT2-medium each optimizer step, or about 4-6 mbps on a Tesla T4. However, we can reduce this bandwidth by doing several training steps before contributing gradients to the server. Taking 25 would reduce it to about 0.2 mbps. Both slow and fast computers can contribute so long as they have the memory to hold the model. A slower computer might only send one training step whereas a fast one might contribute ten to the accumulated gradient. Some research needs to be done if a variable accumulation step size impacts training, but it could be adjusted as people join and leave the network. All that's needed to do this is a VPS. Contributors wanting anonymity can use proxies or TOR, but project owners will need to use VPNs with sufficient bandwidth and dedicated IPs if they wish that much anonymity. The VPS doesn't need an expensive GPU rental either. The fastest computer in the group could be chosen to calculate the optimizer steps. The server would just need to collect the gradients, decompress them, add them together, compress again and send the accumulated gradient to the computer calculating the optimizer step. Or if the optimizing computer has sufficient bandwidth, it could download all the compressed gradients from the server and calculate the accumulated gradient itself. My internet has 200 mbps download so it could potentially handle up to 1000 computers by keeping the bandwidth to 0.2 mbps. Attacks on the network could be mitigated by analyzing the gradients, discarding nonsensical ones and banning clients that send junk, or possibly by using PGP keys to create a pseudo-anonymous web of trust. Libraries for distributed training implementing DGC already exist, although not as advanced as I'm envisioning yet: https://github.com/synxlin/deep-gradient-compression I think this will also be a good way to get more people involved. Most people don't know enough about AI or robotics enough to help but if they can contribute their GPU to someone's robowaifu AI they like and watch her improve each day they will feel good about it and get more involved. At scale though some care will need to be taken that people don't agree to run dangerous code on their computers, either through a library that constructs the models from instructions or something else. And where the gradients are calculated does not matter. They could come from all kinds of hardware, platforms and software like PyTorch, Tensorflow or mlpack.
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>>10563 What people tend to forget: AMD is much smaller than Nvida. They didn't have the money to do this, thanks to their underdog status in the past. That market might also be less relevant. But then, RocM and underlying technologies like OpenCL are open source, and Intel will release their own discrete GPUs soon, and there might be other players, like Apple for example, or other companies working with Arm based chips and a GPU.
>>10568 > or other companies working with Arm based chips and a GPU. Sadly, certain (((interests))) in the US Govt approved Nvidia's buyout of ARM, and the sale has been completed. Nvidia owns ARM now, lock, stock, and barrel.
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>>10568 Hmm right, I recall there was a news or blog post what's the difference? I forget, anyway which says that only the bri'ish people buy AMD because it is cheaper and the other people are all buying Nvidia only. >>10577 >Nvidia owns ARM completely now >US Gov' sees no problem with a giant getting even bigger This shit just makes me sad.
>>10591 >This shit just makes me sad. It makes me angry, actually. Just follow the money, Anon, just follow the money.
>>10577 A month or so ago, the talk was that Nvidia buying ARM isn't finished bc Europe and China. Though, I didn't look into it today. ARM also licences it's designs to others, and they certainly won't be allowed to just stop that, if they even want to. I also assume this would only be relevant for future designs, hypothetically. Apple might already be quite independent in designing their own stuff, and there's still Power and Risc-V.

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Thot in the Shell 1 Robowaifu Technician 04/10/2021 (Sat) 06:58:56 No.9709 [Reply]
TITS Robowaifus The basic idea is that IRL females will be plugged into remote-operation consoles; from there they will have some teleoperational control of robowaifus during engagements. The basic point being human contact for Anon. Obviously, this situation is fraught with both possibilities and hazards. As a board, we had a somewhat extensive discussion and debate on the topic in our first-ever /robowaifu/ council over in the /meta-3 thread (>>9712). As the BO, I had to come to some type of decision on the matter in the end, and here it is: (>>10194). While we didn't actually manage a consensus, my decision was to go ahead and proceed with developing the concept more fully here on /robowaifu/. Therefore, the TITS Robowaifus thread #1 is now open for business -- with two fundamental caveats. 1. Absolutely no free-form, 'open-mic', unconstrained, verbal or physical control by TITS thots of any TITS Robowaifus themselves. The most problematic issues with the whole idea all stem directly from failing to enforce this basic rule. Also, the intricacies of pulling off implementing these restraints correctly, and still allowing for an appealing, effective, and fun engagement for the Anon himself is actually quite a dramatic challenge & achievement. Solving all this will advance many different robowaifu-related areas all together at once. 2. Men will be free to turn off 'safetys' if they desire to plug their IRL GFs into the remote-end of a TITS connection. They are taking their own lives in their hands with such a risk, and they will be clearly informed of that. Note that this is a privately-conducted connection between Anon and his GFs, and isn't in any way associated with any business-oriented systems utilizing professional prostitutes (whether they are labeled as such or not). Basic safetys are not to be disabled in that context whatsoever. Because we are cutting new trails here on robowaifu frontiers (yet again), it's unclear to me yet whether these 'rules' will be sufficient. They probably will receive (potentially extensive) revisions as we move forward. After all, this entire premise represents a significant increase in the complexity of the many issues involving robowaifus already, and puts several new items onto that table as well. Note: please keep all TITS Robowaifus discussions contained to just the TITS threads themselves. >---

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Since I have personally taken over OP's thread entirely, I'm going to repost his original OP here in the first reply post. This is both to honor the OP for bringing the topic up in the first place, and also to ensure we have a basic archive of the post itself here. The full text of Anon's post follows: >--- > Teleoperation of machines is not a new idea. I guess all of us had a moment when we were contemplating to let human operators participate in the control of some robowaifu or thotbot. Probably none of us would really want that, and the idea comes with a lot of questions. Most of us might even like the idea of having a limited AI in a female body, which we would train, much more than dealing with a robot controlled by one or several humans. This is also a matter of identity. A robowaifu with some AI is exactly that, while a remote controlled bot is something else. In many ways related, but still somehow something different. Since it could be seen as a transitional state of the technology, I still think it's on topic here, though. Also the lines might be blurry, since the contributions from the outside would be filtered, constrained and altered. > Also, we real robowaifu enthusiasts here might just not be like everyone. We are probably outliers. Also, we are not able to create a good chatbot yet, which could be talked to in a meaningful way. I have no doubt, we'll be getting there soon. However, some of us might not want to wait, others certainly won't. > So let's stay open minded when looking for (temporary) alternatives and at least think their feasibility and challenges through. > Sandman (MGTOW) had a idea like this a while ago: Letting some women participate in the upcoming "sexrobot industry" by giving them jobs where they would be participating in the actions and responses of the bot. His main argument was, that this would split possible opposition into a group opposed to all of it and the ones profiting, hoping to profit or caring about those who do. >>8187 > Another aspect might be, that many men are not open for using fembots for sex or as companions. Maybe for personal reasons, others for social reasons, like shaming. Having a transition phase might be helpful. > I do recall, other people having the idea of using chatbots for customer support, which can switch over to take in responses by an operator. A more recent and more ambitious example I saw, was some brief report about a robot cafe in Japan, where handicapped people control the robots from home. They're staff then, but are probably also supposed to interact with the guests. > Thoughts on execution: > - One thing is, the ones interested in this topic should come up with a good vocabulary for it. The women contributing are not the operators, for example, but their responses are a commodity which they provide. So they're rather contributors or imaginators, idk. More unofficial terms could be something like 'remote thots', dependent on the use case.

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>>9709 >Also, the intricacies of pulling off implementing these restraints correctly, and still allowing for an appealing, effective, and fun engagement for the Anon himself is actually quite a dramatic challenge & achievement. IMO this will be one of the chief hurdles to overcome. And since it's solution's characteristics will have many cascading-type implications for most of the following design & engineering R&D, I'd suggest that it be the primary focus for us all to address very early on.

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Robowaifu Fail-safety Robowaifu Technician 12/02/2019 (Mon) 06:37:26 No.1671 [Reply]
This thread is for real and present dangers to those who assemble a robowaifu today with the state of the art in technology and brainstorming solutions for fail-safety. There will be many other dangers in the future to consider like hacking and theft but I'd like to keep the thread focused on immediate dangers to keep operators and their electronic counterparts safe.

Open-source robowaifu kits, whenever they come, will be put together by people with little understanding of what they're doing. There are simple mechanical dangers they need to be aware of like getting fingers caught in belts or skin pinched in open joints to curious AI without constraints picking up a blunt object and hitting the operator to minimize its uncertainty of what will happen when it does that. Higher voltage power systems can cause fatal heart arrhythmia from shocks. Hydraulic systems can overheat and fail under high pressures. Cooling systems or condensation from being exposed to cold weather may leak onto electronics. A robowaifu could touch a lit gas stove or do something accidentally without realizing the danger or consequences. Undefined behavior may happen after damage to components or loss of them in an accident. A lot could go wrong.

In simulations there are no consequences to dangerous actions but I think it will be helpful to imagine them as being real and figuring out how we would recover from these failure states in the real world. This will probably be a good approach to AI as well to imagine real consequences of imaginary actions before taking them and avoid actions and states that have significant chance or uncertainty of causing harm, similar to how MuZero creates its own dynamic model and explores its imagination with a Monte Carlo tree search before taking action.

If you're aware of any dangers or have any concerns or ideas please share them so we can discuss and solve them.
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>>8082 Older children also tend to search around without permission or touch everything lying around. So I would put a warning into the case with the solder, telling them to put it back and wash their hands immediately. Also put a shiny warning label onto it.
Guide to Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition (SCADA) and Industrial Control Systems Security Recommendations of the National Institute of Standards and Technology
I'm a bit of a mad scientist trying to develop self-aware AI but I haven't put much thought into how I'm actually going to interact with it once it works. While only an AI the obvious safety measures are limiting the amount of resources it can use and making sure it can't run arbitrary code or exploit vulnerabilities, but having a robowaifu that is aware she is a machine is a completely different problem altogether. There's no way an AI with less parameters than a mouse brain and the lack of a limbic system stimulating it with desires will pose much of a threat but it could still potentially do a lot of harm either intentionally or unintentionally by exploring the environment. At the most basic level one way to limit injury to myself and any damage to property is to create an override system that prevents any dangerous intentions from being acted upon and logging these incidents but this will require being able to identify dangerous intentions. This system would have to be more advanced than the AI otherwise it might find ways around it like placing objects in certain ways that will cause me to trip and fall. Another plan is to have an emergency stop, both a physical button on the robowaifu, a remote one and a voice-activated one. Although these are fine and dandy I don't think they address the core issue of the AI making decisions that cause harm or cause destruction, again either intentionally or unintentionally. I think it will be similar in some ways to raising a child and teaching her not to break shit, but also much different since AI can learn specific tasks so much faster than a human being but at the same time also fail to generalize what was learned to other tasks. There's a lot of instinctual knowledge in our genetics that we take for granted. For instance, something like mirror neurons might be required for machines to learn empathy. Some researchers hypothesize that mirror neurons are required for self-awareness itself because they give the ability to introspect one's own previous mental states. If that is the case, self-awareness might not be so dangerous. Perhaps the best way to explore this would be in the form of a story or visual novel and start from the very beginning of the AI discovering she can look around and move her hands and perhaps getting confused about going to 'sleep' when she's shutdown at night because several hours disappear and everything changes. With each scenario I could try to think of ways to tweak her, like so she actually finds it logical to shutdown at night and gains trust in me by having a system to automatically boot her up in the morning. I think building a bond and trust between each other will be essential. I'm afraid of her hurting me and she will be confused what she even is while not having the same human limbic impulses like a fear of death, being hungry and so on. Emotions are essentially thoughts with momentum, so I believe a self-aware and sufficiently capable AI will gradually develop its own emotions that are very different from human ones. This might include a desire for self-preservation and fear of any unpredictable behavior. One important feature may happen to be an energy function of some sort that reduces the robowaifu's power consumption as the battery gets low or as the day goes on and the robowaifu becoming aware of this process, that if she runs out of energy she blacks out. Anyway, if I have any good thought experiments I'll post them in the robowaifu fiction thread. And like the OP states, it's probably best to train the AI in a simulation first before training in the real world.
>>10059 >I'm a bit of a mad scientist trying to develop self-aware AI Welcome brother! Make yourself right a home here, you're among fellows. I think we may all be just a bit mad here.
>>10059 We're partially programming them. Problem solved. No, I won't engage in speculations on how to do that exactly. You'll see when I'll put something out, or you can do it yourself.

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True Love Robowaifu Technician 09/11/2019 (Wed) 06:28:48 No.111 [Reply]
People who conduct serious work on robowaifus rather than posting anime: how are you going to make the experience (almost) equally or even more satisfying than the real loving relationship?

After digesting the Scientific Blackpill (https : //incels.wiki/w/Scientific_Blackpill) it's clear that robotic girlfriends are the way to go. There is one big problem: everybody craves the complete package which could fool the brain and _simultaneously_ fulfill all the needs related to sex, closeness, companionship, emotional support and social status. Escorts offering GFE don't give you the loving connection. Masturbation doesn't give you the postcoital bliss and satisfaction. Cuddle parties can't replace romance. Going out with friends is very different from proudly walking with your significant other. Visual, auditory, and tactile stimulation don't replace the scent of a woman or a feeling that there's somebody who can take care of you in difficult times. Most importantly - enjoying these things separately don't add up to the desired outcome. You still feel like you miss something important.

Many people claim that the major problem is the uncanny wall: it might always be possible to tell artificial from human, because as robots become more realistic, we will also become more sensitive and will always be able to tell that something is not right. Relevant paper:

https : //www.bolton.ac.uk/StaffBiographies/Angela-Tinwell/Tinwell-Grimshaw-Williams-2011-The-Uncanny-Wall.pdf

Can we even make a really meaningful progress in creating truly satisfying lovebots? Or should we give up and wait for the advanced brain-computer interfaces instead?

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- Studies on pets and the ability to bond and love - Behavior examples for bonding - e.g. bonding over food - Williams Syndrom - Also, the origin of elves https://youtu.be/aDVS8PlNM8M
>>9888 That was cute, literally Hitler Anon. Maybe /robowaifu/ should be about wuffgrills, rather than catgrills do you think? > Dog >>>>>>>>>> Cats
>>9890 OT: I prefer cats as pets, bc they require less work and attention. For someone mostly at home, at least.
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>>9888 >Also, the origin of elves. I'm afraid that's only part of the story anon. The real origin of elves goes much further back in history (real world history, not 'Middle Earth' history). The original elves come from Old Norse mythology (mainly Icelandic). Way, way before the notion of Christmas elves, J.R.R Tolkien or 'faeries/fairys', the ancient Proto-Germanic peoples (750BC) referred to the 'alßiz', which translates to 'white beings'. (As in ghostly, ethereal white, rather than Caucasian flesh 'white'). Over time, this term turned into the Old English word 'ælf', which is where we get names like 'Alfred' and 'Elgar' There some info on Wikipedia if you're interested - not that this makes it set-in-stone, mind you. It just sounds legit to me: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elf#Old_Norse_texts And the hypothesized word-root of 'elf' on Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Germanic/albiz I particularly like an idea written in the late thirteenth-century text 'South English Legendary' that describes elves as angels who sided neither with Lucifer nor with God during the War in Heaven, and were banished by God to Earth rather than Hell. But yes, Williams Syndrome is certainly related. Physicians, being well-read and intelligent people, may have seen such patients in the 17th/18th century and - having read about mythical elves from older texts - put two and two together. Sorry to go off on a tangent anon, but I'm a bit of a fan of Elven things.
>>9888 We would literally change the world for the better if we can just create AIs & relatively inexpensive robowaifu kits that can simply achieve the level of a good dog, relationship-wise. It will be nothing short of revolutionary if we can manage this.

Wifu that gives you Hope. Dyinganon 09/11/2019 (Wed) 02:07:32 No.107 [Reply]
Is it possible to script a "hope" android-based character that learns from a chat cloud whose purpose is to give even the worst cases of us hope, even when we know better? I just want to smile again, even if it is not possible to expect much. I hate looking at my family with sadness and fear. The guilt is hard on me and them. >=== >I'm going to pin this again for a while in remembrance of Dyinganon and the others. I hope they all made it OK.
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>>6929 We wish you well Anon.
>>107 I believe it possible, but if the user knows it's a robot then it wouldn't really work. The robot's words/personality would have to come very close to "real".
>>8915 It's been a while since I watched it, but 'Plastic Memories' covers that topic in anime.
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>>6929 Wait... Kibo-chan dev lurks here? Pierce the freaking heavens with your servos! It's crazy that creating a waifu that gives hope doesn't seem like such an insurmountable task anymore. I just finished the first reward model prototype for training chatbots with human feedback and we should be able to give our waifus feedback on how much our spirits are raised. It'd be amazing to have my own Kibo-chan that lifts my spirits when I'm down. It's sad Dyinganon probably didn't get to live to see such a thing.. but one day many will rejoice our efforts and the years we spent beating our heads on a wall until we broke through, and the love and devotion of our robowaifus will become an inspiration and a path for others to follow.
>>9561 >It's sad Dyinganon probably didn't get to live to see such a thing.. but one day many will rejoice our efforts and the years we spent beating our heads on a wall until we broke through, and the love and devotion of our robowaifus will become an inspiration and a path for others to follow. F Godspeed to us all Anon.

Agalmatophilia Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 04:50:40 No.15 [Reply]
Is the desire for one's own waifubot a legitimate personal expression or simply yet another one of the many new psychoses stemming from First World problems?
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Saw this photo of a beautiful sculpture of the two lover Pygmalion & Galatea. > Étienne Maurice Falconet: Pygmalion et Galatée (1763)
Those who are rejected by humanity should work to advance A.I. instead. Sure you can get a cat or dog...they're cute and all. But cats and dogs just don't have the same potential.
>>15 Philosophically the want for a robot waifu is a weird one. We as humans have found love in non human aspects. Humans find love in houses, trees, animals, and drawings. So while it is a first world psychosis to want robots. The want for love from a non human has been there for years. They say dogs are a man vest friend and there are stories about the companionship between us. If you want objects then look at car guys for a modern example and archeticts that made chapels and building made by their own love. Love may be a chemical cocktail that disappears after a while. But affections that we give too our creations and we recive back from them is a spiritual forever. To know that you and its are the same and will be the same. But I am rambling spiritual bullshit to you guys.
>>6910 >Beautiful sculpture of the sculptor admiring his beautiful sculpture How meta. >>9528 >But I am rambling spiritual bullshit to you guys. Heh, I think you'll find spirituality has a been an oft-discussed topic here, friend, and hardly 'bullshit' regardless. I think evaluating the term love in light of a better language for discussing it like ancient Greek (how apropos, right?) might help you clarify your terms at the least. The very fact you use the same word 'love' in relation to both a drawing and a human being exposes the basic poverty of English in this regard. And even were you correct that the desire for a robowaifu is a psychosis doubt.jpg, it's certainly not just a First World Problem. This truth is pretty ironically evinced by this very thread itself, not to mention your own post. While I doubt the creations themselves do a lot of 'giving back' of men's affections towards them, the simple and obvious fact is that this kind of thing has been going on literally since the era of Adam and Eve, and well before Noah's ark was saved through the flood.

Early Business Ideas Robowaifu Technician 05/13/2020 (Wed) 22:36:03 No.3119 [Reply]
So those of us getting ready to make prototypes are still pretty far away from building the $2000 kits that we need to buildm. This sucks because we are going to be spending a lot on the initial investments, but I think I know how we can make a little money on the side to help on the side; twitch and fansonly. Betas and simps give their money to thots all the time on those site I'm positive they would give money to a crude prototype especially if it offered something unique. Bonus points because we are making money of simps, and we are taking business from thots. If you have any idea on how to make money in the early stages feel free to share them, anon. > related thread: >>1642
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>>5672 Then why even call them "dolls"? Dolls intrinsically have minimal control of their own movements (as in they don't), nor require any software for them to function. By this standard, dolls are just less capable and thus inferior to sexbots. What do they gain from such a reductive connotation? Also, I'm in /robowaifu/, not dollforum
>>5654 Before the lockdowns I was thinking about making battery powered arduino-controlled model trains. HO-scale with some self-assembly and painting required (like Japanese plastic model trains)... maybe use vacuum-forming for the bodies. Model railroading has been in decline because the trains and equipment have become so expensive only rich retirees with big houses can afford them. By using Arduino for the control mechanisms and making the trains somewhat robotic (have collision detection and onboard cameras), I can bypass the overpriced DCC equipment. Of course this business plan is contingent on model railroading -- and rail in general -- having a revival.
>>5763 RC racing is coming back too, most unconventional sports are bring brought back with covid. It woukd be a good idea to bring RC racing or some type of battle bots so more people get intrested in machines and subsequently robowaifus. Business wise you just need land for a track and materials for battle bots. You could have a derby like event so you could have pits of racing and smashing cars.
>>5684 That was exactly my point in >5672, but since they're starting with dolls and then animate them, it's the question when to start calling them lovebots or robowaifus. A lot of people also seem to have the need for having two distinct names for hard-shelled robots and soft-shelled (doll-like) ones.
>conceivably related crosspost >>10892

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What's the future of /robowaifu/ like? Robowaifu Technician 05/06/2020 (Wed) 22:40:22 No.2699 [Reply]
I am the anon who was asking about a very basic beginner set up that could be easily upgraded using the ms paint Chii love doll as the base. I am wondering what is your vision for the future of /robowaifu/? I am curious since I am getting a lot of good info just lurking around here, but it seems like everyone has different visions. Nothing wrong with that, but I am more curious about resources and kits for beginners. Even it's just a list of parts to buy and find on your own at different tiers.
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>>4626 Thanks BO, I'll refer to my previous post once I also post on the propaganda thread. >I wouldn't worry too much about it. A) we're definitely not an MGTOW board, and B) this is a huge, niche, topic that will literally take a number of years to explore reasonably well. Anyone who's going to stick it out here is already probably highly-motivated internally anyway. As strange as it might seem, even MGTOW once was as small as /robowaifu/ and people did expect years to come by and then gain some small traction and yet it still grew. This happened because ,even while being a niche topic, the impact of its results, if said choice was taken into consideration by most, would be widespread. As a matter of fact, as it grew, it just grew faster and faster (as the networking effect encourages). I personally think that /robowaifu/ will be the same: very niche contents, very big potential impact nonetheless, hence why more memes will help. Once again, thanks for the hospital and welcoming behavior.
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I tried to win over some 4channers, while /robowaifu/ was offline. Not sure if I had any success. I'll get my printer in 2-3 weeks, though I will be partially occupied with other stuff around that time. We're not dead yet.
>>4425 After a few months of thinking, I've decided there's certainly no harm in putting BSD 3-clause forward as the primary license suggestion here Anon. I'll amend my overarch post ITT accordingly. >>4578 >but not as much actual testing or doing. Be the future you imagine.
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An idea I had was to have an outer and inner circle. There are frequent robowaifu theme posts on /pol/ which get about 90% positive interaction and 10% negative, but very few actually are aware of the real projects and research taking place here. Last year I created an "enthusiast" level discord server and created a few channels for brainstorming and research (not knowing about /robowaifu/ at the time) - it is interesting to see how many ideas are here that were the same and how many new ideas as well. So what if we were to create an enthusiast tier board for propaganda and memes, fiction, discussion, but anyone wanting to go further into the technical realm would be from a smaller pool. So we have a larger pool which is more "normie" friendly and fun, but those who want more, or who are ready, can be vetted and introduced into the inner circle, so to speak. What do you think?
>>9443 I've always said very plainly I welcome any and all additional venues for robowaifuism Anon. This can only help our cause. Some guy once said >"All press is good press" While I won't actively support evil things like Doxxcord directly here on /robowaifu/ , I don't have any issue if you promote your channels on our /meta thread. I certainly don't have any issues with you creating them on your own initiative. I would love to see large numbers of alternative robowaifu-oriented venues appear literally everywhere. Let's bring on the social shitstorm debate surrounding them, I say. >tl;dr Proceed, Anon.

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