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Robowaifu Propaganda and Recruitment Robowaifu Technician 05/07/2020 (Thu) 05:39:42 No.2705 [Reply] [Last]
Attention drawfags and writefags! Your skills will be needed. The task of building and designing a robowaifu is a herculean quest. As great as this community is, /robowaifu/ simply does not have the manpower to real our goal of DIY robowaifus. Luckily for us there are several communities on the internet that we could find new recruits or allies to help us build our waifus: MGTOW - These guys know all about the legal pitfalls of marriage and the dangers of feminism. There is already a lot of talk about sex robots in MGTOW communities. It shouldn't be a hard sell to get them to come here. Incels - Guys that can't get laid. The opportunity for love and companionship should be enough to bring some of these guys over. We need to be careful when recruiting from some of their communities. We don't want to attract negative attention. Monster girls/furry/mlp fandoms - The only way these guys are going to be able to have their harpy/elf/goblin/anthro/pony/whatever gf is with a robowaifu. They have an interest in seeing us succeed. Again we need to be careful here not to attract the wrong kind of people that will bring us the wrong kind of attention. Male STEM students - Generally these guys aren't going to get laid until after they have established themselves. A robowaifu could really help them. This may be a harder sell because many of them have been brainwashed in university, but they have skills that we could really use. Transhumanists/biohackers - Many of the technologies involved in building a robowaifu could be used in transhumanist or biohacking applications such as building an avatar. They may have some interest in helping us out. We will need to be careful which transhumanist communities we go after as many of them are full of feminism, tumblr tier sexualities and genders, and SJW's. Cyberpunks and technophiles - These guys (and they are usually guys) are all around into technology and may just enjoy working on the kinds of projects we need to do. They are often into programming and AI.
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>>30347 >10-15 years the leading ai researchers anticipate agi within 5 years. with an expert on all fields in the palm of your hands, there's no way that the development of robot waifus takes more than a few years
>>30366 Not public. It was sent to me personally.
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>>30734 There has to be a female jannie/mod in the chans..... >=== -patch quote crosslink
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ATTENTION OP Seems like we're in need of a new thread here. You still around Anon?

Computational Parallelism, Photonic ICs, Soft Robotics, and The Use of Low Power Analog Systems Robowaifu Technician 01/09/2024 (Tue) 19:32:19 No.28223 [Reply]
If we were to be realistic about creating robot wives capable of forming seemingly genuine human actions such as fine motor skills, emotion, and rational thought while resembling a human with a few non-human features, i think the best way to approach this is to embrace the usage of soft robotics, computational parallelism, photonic integrated circuits, and low power analog systems. Computational Parallelism: Divide and conquer algorithms are often used to solve computational problems by dividing tasks up into smaller problems, solving them individually, and combining the results together to form one big output. This generates faster results and is already possible to achieve with conventional hardware, but most conventional hardware is limited to the amount of cores needed to effectively solve problems this way on a larger scale. It's a big hindrance to the speed of operations like this, so we'll need something more powerful. There are ASICs available on the market that were engineered to be used this way. However, they're too expensive, which drives me to the possibility of using Photonic integrated circuits. Photonic ICs: Photonic IC are exactly as the name implies: Integrated Circuits that make the use of Photons to computational operations as opposed to electrons. Manufacturing Photonic ICs is relatively more cost effective than if you were to try manufacturing conventional silicon ICs. Another huge advantage is that we can solve computational problems much faster with less power using photons without generating heat the same way conventional ICs do with electrons. The biggest caveat here is that this is still being researched and that special tooling would need to be made for us to build these in house. Soft Robotics: Soft robotics are the best option for creating human-like bodies for robots. Even better is that they often don't require too much power to actuate joints or muscles. Most soft materials use for soft robots are cost effective enough to be made with commonly found materials. I personally think making use of alginate hydrogel would be a smart idea for use in robots waifus because it is hydrophilic, and anti microbial. It is commonly used in medical applications such as wound dressings and drug delivery systems. It is also non-toxic which makes it a perfect candidate for use in robot waifus. I'd also entertain the idea of using other soft materials in conjunction with it for better results. Primarily, it can be used in forming fat-like deposits, skin layers, and artificial internal organs for robot waifus. I think it may also be possible for us to create internal lubrication systems for it due to the fact that it is primarily water based. Low Power Analog Systems: Low power analog systems are vague in definition, but the general idea here is that we can use things such as fiber optic wires, digital-to-analog converter chips, and digitizers to create a type of artificial nervous system that communicates with the rest of the hardware running signal transmitters over echo state networks. It's hard for me to accurately describe my visualization of this, but by now, I'm sure you get the point already. The only problem left to solve is power. How to we obtain it, and how much can we use? I don't know, but if we take the low power-high tech approach, it probably wouldn't become too much of an issue. I think that maybe the best way would be to use electrochemcial energy in some type of internal fuel cell to generate power. All of the systems described above would require less power than if we tried to use servos and silicon chips. I's also say that maybe we could take more inspiration from nature to create bio-mimicking features that we would find desirable. A lot of this is speculation that i got from dipping my toes into various topics and picking out what i think could be useful to finally end the hypergamy going on in the west. This is largely a cultural issue that is mulifaceted in every way and our efforts could be in vain if the feminists and roastoids find a way to outlaw open source tech. Not only should we be focusing on building robot wives to flips the tables in the dating and sexual market, but to also consider political and economic alternatives that absolutely strip and decentralize power from the hands of the elite. I personally think agorism is the way to go but that is a another topic for another time. Let me know what you guys think. Am i an idiot, or am i onto something?
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>>28330 Sounds like you don't understand what a waifu is, anon.
>>28332 I wouldnt have married my wife if she had said that there will never be sex i know that much
>>28333 This could be a replacement for sex it could not. In my mind the talking is like for the most part nice but not really necessary. Notice how throughout the show chobits she just says chi. Keep in mind that people can get desperate for sex however nobody is desperate for love. Roasties use the desperation for sex as leverage.
>>28333 So... that's a "no". And apparently you haven't read Chobits either.
>>28334 >nobody is desperate for love Brah, you should get your priorities in order.

/robowaifu/ + /all things monster girl/; it's benefits, projects, the uncanny valley, etc. Robowaifu Technician 05/03/2021 (Mon) 14:02:40 No.10259 [Reply] [Last]
Discussing the potential benefits of creating monster girls via robotics instead of 1 to 1 replicas of humans and what parts can be substituted to get them in production as soon as possible. Firstly is the fact that many of the animal parts that could be substituted for human one are much simpler to work with than the human appendages, which have a ton of bones and complex joints in the hands and feet, My primary example of this is bird/harpy species (image 1), which have relatively simple structures and much less complexity in the hands and feet. For example, the wings of the bird species typically only have around three or four joints total, compared to the twenty-seven in the human hand, while the legs typically only have two or three, compared to the thirty-three in the human foot. As you can guess, having to work with a tenth of the bones and joints and opposable thumbs and all that shit makes things incredibly easier to work with. And while I used bird species as an example, the same argument could be put forward for MG species with paws and other more simplistic appendages, such as Bogey (image 2) and insect hybrids (image 3). Secondly is intentionally making it appear to not be human in order to circumvent the uncanny valley. It's incredibly difficult to make completely convincing human movement, and one of the simplest ways around that is just to suspend the need for it entirely. We as humans are incredibly sensitive to the uncanny valley of our own species, even something as benign as a prosthetic limb can trigger it, but if we were to create something that we don't expect to move in such a way, it's theoretically entirely possible to just not have to deal with it (for the extremities part of it, anyways), leaving more time to focus on other aspects, such as the face. On the topic of face, so too could slight things be substituted there (again for instance, insect girls), in order to draw attention away from the uncanny valley until technology is advanced enough that said uncanny valley can be eliminated entirely. These possibilities, while certainly not to the taste of every anon, could be used as a way to accelerate production to the point that it picks up investors and begins to breed competition and innovation among people with wayyyyyyy more money and manpower than us, which I believe should be the endgoal for this board as a whole. . Any ideas or input is sincerely appreciated.

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>>25707 >>26014 > The conclusion I came to was that you’d need at least 5 separate contractile regions, all independently addressable, AND able to contract dY for the snake-bot to be capable of any generalized sort of locomotion. Yes, that's just what the design I described should do. By having the cable winches attached to several disc vertebrae down-body from each winch, the overlap of each set of cables emulates the overlap of muscles in a snake's body. In this way the contraction of each set of cables can be individually controlled to either stand alone or gang together over a distance of several vertebrae, and the size of each "muscle" group (and therefore the number of muscle groups) can be varied on the fly by the controlling code. The operation of the cable winch groups can be done in sequence along the body to emulate the sinuous movement of a snake, and the winch-and-cable sets in the vertical plane for coiling the body can be used to adjust the areas of contact with the surface the body is moving over. To be clear, each vertebra is attached to several winches by cables, and can be acted upon by one or any number of the cables attached to it. The force of each winch is spread over several vertebrae, but several winches acting on each vertebrae combine to increase the force applied. By varying the spacing of the vertebrae discs, the diameter of each vertebrae disc, vs the diameter of the foam body and the resiliency of the foam used for the body (say 8" dia. vertebrae spaced 6" and 12" body dia.), it should be possible for the coils to be as tight as a few inches. With a larger sized object, like anon's body, our lamia should have no problem exerting a firm grip. As with an arachne, anon should probably have a safe word. Something I didn't think of before, real snakes are able to do a twisting motion with at least the forward part of their bodies, so we may also want to copy that. The 18" body size I mentioned before was at the "hip" area before the tapering of the snake body. I should have made that clear. >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32271916/ (source analysis) >https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36296136/ (proposed robotic design based on analysis) Thanks, I'll take a look at these when I have a chance. >===

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>>25838 >find out how many legs of a spider are off the ground at one time as it is moving At most four. There are always at least 4 on the ground at any time in the walking cycle. So each of our spider-girl's legs must be able to support 1/4 of her total weight, plus whatever extra we decide on for contingencies. That could be 1/3 of the total weight (maybe a little more?), in case one leg is disabled, so she could still safely walk to her service area (if the code isn't smart enough to adapt to a broken leg). Or if you are feeling particularly ambitious you might want her strong enough to carry her own weight plus anon's weight (plus excess safety margin) for when she needs to carry anon somewhere after demonstrating her web-spinning. In that case only four legs might be walking so 3 on the ground at all times, a quadruped. Here's a site with a good description of how spider legs work: Leg Uses Hydraulics and Muscle Flex https://asknature.org/strategy/leg-uses-hydraulics-and-muscle-flex/ Here's a paper on soft robotic spider legs cited on the website^. Soft, so nobody is using cables and sprockets: Biomimetic Spider Leg Joints: A Review from Biomechanical Research to Compliant Robotic Actuators (downloadable pdf) https://www.mdpi.com/2218-6581/5/3/15#
>>26056 >in case one leg is disabled, so she could still safely walk to her service area (if the code isn't smart enough to adapt to a broken leg). Not sure how difficult it would be with servos w/o some dissassembly but with electrical motors regardless of type you can closely aproximate their % load by how much current they draw relative to max allowed which should not be difficult to track via analog inputs. Some simple algorithm would then calculate how many legs may be in air at any time and how far can legs neighbouring strained limb move to offset its load.
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>>25617 There is now a printable version of the robot spider, so it should be much easier to build for anyone who wants a model to develop and test code for the legs: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3620761

Prototypes and Failures #3 NoidoDev ##eCt7e4 03/31/2023 (Fri) 19:20:29 No.21647 [Reply] [Last]
Post your prototypes and failures. We fail until we win. From now on with even more madness, while the prototypes are starting to look cute and have extras. Don't forget looking through the old threads here >>418 and here >>18800 to understand how we got to where we are now.
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>>28707 > I have a brick that is a few months old and still no mold growth. Granted I have kept the thing dry and inside. What kid of conditions are you exposing it to? Humidity, warm, humidity cold, dry warm, dry cold, what materials will be housed or adjunct to it, what size is your brick and can you do various samples of different sizes and shapes? (This is not me trying to tear you down or say it;s a bad idea I'm actually curious now. You have to control these conditions as a grower so I know you can run some tests) >>28709 What is this.
>>28710 >What kid of conditions are you exposing it to? This one I just kept around the house. Right now we are moving past the "dicking around" phase. Humidity, warm, humidity cold, dry warm, dry cold, what materials will be housed or adjunct to it, what size is your brick and can you do various samples of different sizes and shapes? The first batch of bricks were 4inX4inX1in and they can be grown at different sizes. I haven't tested how well they hold up to long term humidity yet.
>>28710 >>28707 For example, if you can guarantee perfect conditions, treat it with formaldehyde and then seal it with an epoxy or resin coat (if you're dealing with a consumer product then at some point there will be some regulator requiring the organic material be irradiated or treated with a sterilizing chemical for 'safety'(most of these cause interesting cancers), you would have a very strong and light weight skeleton with mild flexibility.
This thread is bumb locked since it reached it's maximum limit, I'll make a new one.
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Black Magic M66 3D Modelling Project & Battledroid Robowaifus SophieDev 07/27/2021 (Tue) 14:03:16 No.11776 [Reply] [Last]
Decided it may be best to place my 3D digital modelling efforts in a separate thread to my work on 'Elfdroid Sophie'. I think this thread will still belong under "Personal Projects". At the moment the 3D modelling begins over on her thread: >>11644 >>11657 I'm using some source material from Masamune Shirow's 1987 OVA "Black Magic - M66" (which itself was based off his 1983 manga). However, as a child of the late eighties/early nineties, I loved 'Transformers', and I was also a big fan of the 'Heavy Gear' series (similar to MechWarrior), and Armored Core. So I often get the urge to create battle-ready robowaifus, but I can only create them virtually. Because obviously I cannot get hold of machine-guns, explosives, tank cannons, and rocket launchers IRL. Good thing, too, since if I were given access to live ammunition I would almost certainly blow myself into a flying streamer of giblets. But I digress. This thread may also be a good place for any equally deranged anons who wish to post images of military-grade robowaifus, either found online or their own creations? --- >lock cf. (>>30234)
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>>20270 > Normies Everywhere: > That's exactly what you are trying to do as well. You're just wrong more often. No, this is one thing humans do, but certainly not all we do. Predicting the next word is what these models do, though this is already very impressive. That said, nobody can know what other elements Cai uses for their chatbots.
Been looking into GPTs just lately, and found this one called 'Genie' that can create 3D models just from a simple text prompt. I think they have improved quite a bit since I last tried out an older one called 'Leonardo A.I.'. My prompts were just: Shiny, metal robot girl. Cyberpunk anime robot girl. Supergirl (came out very well because she is such a prolific comic book character). Finally, I really took a shot in the dark and gave it something very obscure: Sanakan from BLAME! 2017 animated sci-fi film. But even with this, I can see that the A.I. had source data from dark cyberpunk anime, if not the actual 'BLAME!' anime and manga themselves. One model bears a resemblance to the Electrofisher suits that the characters in the movie wear...perhaps fused with a little of the Safeguard Exterminators? All of these models are completely A.I. generated - both basemesh and PBR textures!
These were the models generated from the (relatively) obscure anime/manga prompt that actually impressed me the most, despite only being low-res attempts.
>>28643 I did something like this here >>24479 (corrected link). But I tried something more related to building robowaifus. Going from a portrait without hair to a 3D model. (Edit; Had to correct the link)
>>28644 >Blame! >(relatively) obscure anime/manga Okay, never heard of it ... /s - https://youtu.be/hwy806RC2-Q - https://youtu.be/cO0JsSYTFzQ - https://youtu.be/ROwSo4mZNB8 Elon Musk is apparently scared of it: https://youtu.be/2Rt5g3QSZog

Those simple bare necessities Robowaifu Technician 09/01/2020 (Tue) 06:14:32 No.4908 [Reply]
Here we have Maslow's hiearchy of needs. A psychological theory that basically breaks down what a man needs and what he can seek out in life. This seems like a good framework to identify what niche your robowaifu can address in her function, and how exactly to accomplish that. I think the third tier up is what most of us seek from a robowaifu. No matter how inert your robowaifu is in function, even motionless plastic can give you a sense of connection if you project a personality onto it. What do you think? Does Maslow's hierarchy of needs as a theory relate to you and your projects? Is there anything to this at all?
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>>4921 I thought the discussion was just about which part of the hierarchy robo-waifus fulfill. But yeah, the structure must be done from bottom, so unless you have the lowest two sections, robo-waifus won't be of much use.
>>4924 The idea is that you could potentially build a robowaifu to fulfill any part of that hierarchy. Like for the physiological needs, a robowaifu that can help you keep track of your day-to-day health.
>>27853 I suspect that the culprit is either lobbying groups, or the people behind the chart genuinely felt the need to clarify. One thing to keep in mind is that not all sex leads to reproduction, and not all reproduction comes from sex (at least, not anymore). Whoever made the decision to change the exact word used clearly cares about that distinction. As for how robowaifus relate to the chart, I'd posit that they can provide substance to all five levels: (1) They provide sex if you follow the old wording. If you follow the new wording, one could stretch that the creation of a new form of existence in your image is a sort of reproduction. Alternately, the issue of reproduction will likely be solved within the decade. (2) They can provide (mental) health, and aid in the retention of property, resources (by helping you keep track of these things) and personal security (you can set her up to be your own personal surveillance network). (3) They can provide intimacy (both physcal and psychological) (4) They can help your self-esteem, and provide a sense of freedom. (5) They can help you become the most that you can be.
>>27867 >cannibalistic lesbians I won't ask, and I'd very much like it if you don't tell. >We already have a story about a world of men who forsook their women for gynoids Is it one I wrote, or are you referring to something older? >other versions of the chart That makes sense. Too many people have varying ideologies for there not to be several semantically different iterations of the same idea. Nonetheless, I think my point still stands regardless of what sits where in the chart.
Try no fap for a year i think thats what it means to be at the bottom of the hierarchy of needs lol

Emmy the Robot - Official Thread Robowaifu Technician 11/30/2023 (Thu) 03:58:48 No.26629 [Reply] [Last]
Welcome all Nandroids fans to the Emmy thread, for discussing and posting about EtR. Please refrain from posting off-topic or non-Nandroid related things. --- Also, be sure to check out Emmy-Pilled's project thread! (>>25306) >=== -minor edit -add project crosslink
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>>27458 I liked that one Anon's idea of Darcy being adopted. And the new nandroid Avery having to be purchased to provide extra hands in the household
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OP, seems it's time for a new thread! Our autosage bump limit here on /robowaifu/ is 350. It's traditional form to link to the previous threads within the new thread's OP thus: > previous threads : (>>26629)
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Actuators For Waifu Movement Part 2 Waifu Boogaloo Kiwi 09/02/2021 (Thu) 05:30:48 No.12810 [Reply] [Last]
(Original thread >>406) Kiwi back from the dead with a thread for the discussion of actuators that move your waifu! Part Two! Let's start with a quick refresher! 1. DC motors, these use a rotating magnetic field created through commutation to rotate a rotor! They're one of the cheapest options and are 30 to 70 percent efficient usually. The bigger they are, the more efficient they tend to be. 2. Brushless motors, these use a controller to induce a rotating magnetic field by turning electromagnets on and off in a sequence. They trend 60 to 95 percent efficiency 3. AC motors, Though there are many different type, they function similarly to brushless motors, they simply rely on the AC electricity to turn their electromagnets on and off to generate their field. Anywhere from 15 to 95 percent efficiency. 4. Stepper motors, brushless motors with ferrous teeth to focus magnetic flux. This allows for incredible control at the cost of greater mass and lower torque at higher speeds. Usually 50 to 80 percent efficient but, this depends on control algorithm/speed/and quality of the stepper. 5. Coiled Nylon Actuators! These things have an efficiency rating so low it's best to just say they aren't efficient. What they are though is dirt cheap and easy as heck to make! Don't even think about them, I did and it was awful. 6. Hydraulics! These rely on the distribution of pressure in a working liquid to move things like pistons. Though popular in large scale industry, their ability to be used in waifu's has yet to be proven. (Boston Dynamics Atlas runs on hydraulics but, it's a power guzzler and heavy) 7. Pneumatics, hydraulics lighter sister! This time the fluid is air! This has the advantage in weight. They aren't capable of the same power loads hydraulics are but, who wants their waifu to bench press a car? 8. Wax motors, hydraulic systems where the working fluid is expanding melted parafin wax! Cheap, low power, efficient, and produce incredible torque! Too bad they're slow and hard to control. 9. Explosion! Yes, you can move things through explosions! Gas engines work through explosions! Artificial muscles can be made by exploding a hydrogen and oxygen mixture in a piston, then using hydrolysis to turn the water back into hydrogen and oxygen. None of this is efficient or practical but, it's vital we keep our minds open. Though there are more actuators, most are derivatives or use these examples to work. Things like pulleys need an actuator to move them. Now, let's share, learn, and get our waifu moving! >--- < add'l, related links from Anon:

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Differential Swerve Drive for rolling platforms, it uses both motors for driving forward so it is more efficient: https://youtu.be/8RQmpUEgoYU Might be useful for a Gardevoir suit, waifu car or a waifu with wheels. Swerve drive means it can drive sideways, which is more similar to a bipedal creature that can move out of the way easily.
>>26857 >Might be useful for a Gardevoir suit, waifu car or a waifu with wheels. Very cool! I'm actually in the middle of a smol robotic cart->Tachikoma design for Sumomo-chan. This is very timely for me Anon, thanks! :^)
>>26118 >Cheap motor update: I cannot figure out how to use the CAN bus with the arduino can hat v2 and a program to move the motor with a joystick. I'm feeling extremely lazy so I think I need to cut all unnecessary idle tasks and try again.
OP, seems it's time for a new thread please These are some good ones, Anon. Thanks! :^)
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Fundamental Design Ideas that should ALWAYS be accounted for Grommet 07/19/2023 (Wed) 01:59:58 No.24047 [Reply]
So I'm thinking about design and realize some mistakes I made. There is likely no better short cut to advancing design than these fundamental principles as stated by Elon Musk. 1. Make The Requirements Less Dumb “Step one: Make the requirements less dumb. The requirements are definitely dumb; it does not matter who gave them to you. It’s particularly dangerous when they come from an intelligent person, as you may not question them enough. Everyone’s wrong. No matter who you are, everyone is wrong some of the time. All designs are wrong, it’s just a matter of how wrong,” explains Musk. 2. Try And Delete Part Of The Process “Step two: try very hard to delete the part or process. If parts are not being added back into the design at least 10% of the time, [it means that] not enough parts are being deleted. The bias tends to be very strongly toward ‘let’s add this part or process step in case we need it’. Additionally, each required part and process must come from a name, not a department, as a department cannot be asked why a requirement exists, but a person can,” says Musk. 3. Simplify Or Optimize “Step three: simplify and optimize the design. This is the most common error of a smart engineer — to optimize something that should simply not exist,” according to Musk. He, himself, has been a victim of implementing these steps out of order. He refers to a “mental straightjacket” that happens in traditional schools where you always have to answer the question regardless of whether the premise makes any sense at all. 4. Accelerate Cycle Time “Step four: accelerate cycle time. You’re moving too slowly, go faster! But don’t go faster until you’ve worked on the other three things first,” explains Musk. Here he uses another example of how these steps should occur in order. During a wrongheaded process you should simply stop, not accelerate. He says, “If you’re digging your grave, don’t dig it faster.”

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>>24134 The topic is literally just OP expressing their love for the guy. You're calling out those other anons for disagreeing. OP you're acting like a cultist, you could have said all of that without inserting your celebrity into it.
>>26580 Lolwut? I think I'm pretty skeptical of the guy. OTOH, I'm not at all jelly of him and have earnest hopes for the Teslabot program. Regardless, he's certainly done the world a service regarding Xitter, even if some of the approaches to managing the thing seem bonkers to me. :D
>>26580 >The topic is literally just OP expressing their love for the guy You don't understand. One of the most valuable things in the world is to have a simple straightforward guide to operating effectively. "...you could have said all of that without inserting your celebrity into it...." He said it. He stated them in the sequence listed. These principles he stated off the cuff in an interview with everyday astronaut are pure gold. If you internalize them it will make you more effective in whatever you are doing. People for some reason really get triggered like little boys saying girls have cooties when you mention him or what he has done. And somehow admiration for most excellent productivity and changing the trajectory of several technologies on the planet, is said to be "love" or "worship" or some other derogatory term. No the guy has done a shit load of impressive things and respecting that is...just respect. Very few people in history have produced so much change in such a short time as he has. It's just a fact.
>>26590 > You don't understand. One of the most valuable things in the world is to have a simple straightforward guide to operating effectively. Do you actually think Elon is the first person that thought efficiency is good? You could ask any engineer and they would explain how important efficiency is to you. Also if you honest to god believe Elon is a genius at engineering, look at how modular and resistant Tesla cars or his rockets are. And most things he talked about don't apply because we aren't selling status symbols to the masses, we are producing robots to love. 1)Make The requirements less dumb If you made the requirements, they aren't "dumb" as long as you don't think they are dumb. Every requirement you started with should be added to the end product over time as long as there aren't any engineering difficulties and you want those features. 2) Try And Delete Part Of The Process The product should be quality checked at every step and the more check there is the better. 3)Simplify Or Optimize Good advice but some people died because he simplifyed his car's doors to the point they weren't functioning. 4)Accelerate Cycle Time That thinking of his is why Tesla factories get far more injuries than other car factories, i strongly believe Tesla factories would be closed 10 times by now if other car manifacturers ran factories as dangerous as his. 5. Automate Soo smart of him to realise industrial revolution happened. But doesn't apply to us yet because we aren't manifacturing in masses.
>>26592 You don't like his ideas, don't use them but don't pretend that stating them is worship or any of the other stuff you throw out there. No one forcing you to do anything. Ideas are not people.

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Robowaifu@home: Together We Are Powerful Robowaifu Technician 03/14/2021 (Sun) 09:30:29 No.8958 [Reply] [Last]
The biggest hurdle to making quick progress in AI is the lack of compute to train our own original models, yet there are millions of gamers with GPUs sitting around barely getting used, potentially an order of magnitude more compute than Google and Amazon combined. I've figured out a way though we can connect hundreds of computers together to train AI models by using gradient accumulation. How it works is by doing several training steps and accumulating the loss of each step, then dividing by the amount of accumulation steps taken before the optimizer step. If you have a batch size of 4 and do 256 training steps before an optimizer step, it's like training with a batch size of 1024. The larger the batch size and gradient accumulation steps are, the faster the model converges and the higher final accuracy it achieves. It's the most effective way to use a limited computing budget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX8LLYdQ-cA These training steps don't need to be calculated by a single computer but can be distributed across a network. A decent amount of bandwidth will be required to send the gradients each optimizer step and the training data. Deep gradient compression achieves a gradient compression ratio from 270x to 600x without losing accuracy, but it's still going to be using about 0.5 MB download and upload to train something like GPT2-medium each optimizer step, or about 4-6 mbps on a Tesla T4. However, we can reduce this bandwidth by doing several training steps before contributing gradients to the server. Taking 25 would reduce it to about 0.2 mbps. Both slow and fast computers can contribute so long as they have the memory to hold the model. A slower computer might only send one training step whereas a fast one might contribute ten to the accumulated gradient. Some research needs to be done if a variable accumulation step size impacts training, but it could be adjusted as people join and leave the network. All that's needed to do this is a VPS. Contributors wanting anonymity can use proxies or TOR, but project owners will need to use VPNs with sufficient bandwidth and dedicated IPs if they wish that much anonymity. The VPS doesn't need an expensive GPU rental either. The fastest computer in the group could be chosen to calculate the optimizer steps. The server would just need to collect the gradients, decompress them, add them together, compress again and send the accumulated gradient to the computer calculating the optimizer step. Or if the optimizing computer has sufficient bandwidth, it could download all the compressed gradients from the server and calculate the accumulated gradient itself. My internet has 200 mbps download so it could potentially handle up to 1000 computers by keeping the bandwidth to 0.2 mbps. Attacks on the network could be mitigated by analyzing the gradients, discarding nonsensical ones and banning clients that send junk, or possibly by using PGP keys to create a pseudo-anonymous web of trust. Libraries for distributed training implementing DGC already exist, although not as advanced as I'm envisioning yet: https://github.com/synxlin/deep-gradient-compression I think this will also be a good way to get more people involved. Most people don't know enough about AI or robotics enough to help but if they can contribute their GPU to someone's robowaifu AI they like and watch her improve each day they will feel good about it and get more involved. At scale though some care will need to be taken that people don't agree to run dangerous code on their computers, either through a library that constructs the models from instructions or something else. And where the gradients are calculated does not matter. They could come from all kinds of hardware, platforms and software like PyTorch, Tensorflow or mlpack.
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>NuNet is building a globally decentralized computing framework that combines latent computing power of independently owned compute devices across the globe into a dynamic ecosystem of compute resources, individually rewarded via tokenomic ecosystem based on NuNet Utility Token (NTX). https://www.nunet.io
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>>26510 While the basic idea behind the claims is sound (ours is much better however), the entire thing strikes me as yet another scam. If I'm correct, then it's an effort to sweep up any unencumbered compute resources not already controlled by the GH, into their already-obscenely-large hardware stable.
Related: >>30759 >I'm working on infrastructure that's friendly to distributed development of complex AI applications
> platform-related : ( >>34123 )

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