# Cognitive Architecture - Separating it from conversational AI is probably impossible, since we need to use it for inner dialog and retrieval of data from LLMs - I'm not sure if optimizations for conversations, like faster understanding and anticipation where a conversation goes, should also go in here or in another thread - We need to approach this from different directions: Lists of capabilities humans have, concrete scenarios and how to solve them, configuration optimizations - The system will need to be as flexible as possible, making it possible to add new features everywhere # Definitions of conscience which we might be able to implement - ANY comment on conscience has to make clear to which definition it refers or make the case for a new one which can be implemented in code (including deep learning) - <list, it's five or so> # List of projects working on Cognitive Architecture or elements of it - Dave Shapiro: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidShapiroAutomator - OpenCog - Some guys from IBM Watson worked on it - LangChain - - ... <there are more, we need a list>

>>25403 Too optimistic?

>>25401 >No wonder why robowaifu has gone to complete utter shit Lol. Mind explaining these great heights we had achieved? I must've slept through it. :^) >giving furfags access to technology like https://archive.is/imYmI was a grave mistake and now WE have to suffer the consequences for it Furfags!?! Where?!? BTW, can you provide a clear link (or use a different archive site)? Can't read that one. What was it? >Go back to your fucking mental ward degenerate this is an SFW anime only safe space. not your bimbofied ChatGPT waifu. Two words bro: >De >caf >>inb4 criticism get me banned >Go ahead prove my point further about how rulecucked this board is Welcome, newfriend. :^) A) We have exactly two rules (>>3), same as we had from the first week of the board back in the day. B) With very rare exceptions, I only hand out bans for spamming, or as 1-minute bans simply to make a point (cf. >>20387), and usually in jest.

>>25410 Excellent news Anon! Thanks for sharing the update. >and my robowaifu journey can begin. Heh, it's already begun, my friend. Now just keep moving forward. Cheers. :^)

>>25405 Cute mail mare. And, as everyone knows, is also best pone. :^) >>25422 >He wouldn't take things in a degenerate direction. Let's hope not. Everyone here should be well-aware I'm not going to be favorable to pandering either to the Globohomo, or their usual suspect -puppets, heh. :D

>>25403 >>25423 I think it's really good to set timeline targets Peteblank. That's when ideas transform into goals! Good luck with your project work Anon. Cheers. :^)

>Autonomous Cognitive Entity (by Dave Shapiro) I disagree with his idealism (human rights, lol) and recall some other flaws in the first video, but he has good ideas. Didn't watch the second video yet, it just poped up some minutes ago. ACE Framework Overview and Intro: Autonomous AI Agents!: https://youtu.be/A_BL_pu4Gtk ACE Paper is Published! Repo tour! Get involved!: https://youtu.be/oVP_aB5rJL8 Related: Buses: AMQP, AMP or Syslog Related: On Task: How Our Brain Gets Things Done, by David Badre >Event-driven Workflows are also relevant, I keep running into these terms, since it's about orchestrating a network of machines. Prefecthq and Marvin got mentioned. Some people criticize LangChain for not being more like that. I have of course no intention to use "the cloud", but robowaifus will need many SBCs with redundancy and communication in between. Also, it's about running a lot of parallel programs on one system. So it might be worth looking into it, but it also comes with a lot of extra complexity: - Event-driven Architecture: https://youtu.be/gOuAqRaDdHA - Getting Started with Workflow Orchestration: https://youtu.be/AjYHBwH2Mtc - Dynamic Event-driven Workflows with Prefect Cloud: https://youtu.be/hVD1S2suC48 - https://elixirforum.com/t/what-are-you-building-your-event-driven-elixir-systems-on/54517 - Kafka, RabbitMQ streams or messaging system with pubsub semantics >Cyc Another one of the related project. Some ideas I heard before, I read about this whole things years ago. Then there are some ideas I didn't remember related to that, but I think I had on my own, but the Cyc team is of course way ahead. Ontologies and Ontology engineering really matters.

>>25408 the 'not' makes it grandiose

>>25408 >your excuse for not doing jack shit once the robot is done I assume this question was targeted at me? - There will not be "the one" robot - Development will go on after the first one - I'm still working on it, but took a bit of a break, since I have to do something else which I procrastinated on. That said, I will likely do some a little bit of work soon. Hopefully finishing some things which are close to that. After that, I will need to take another break unfortunately. Next few month are about learning more about AI and programming when I work related to it, which I still do. I hope I can get at least my simple body design into something, and some BLDC servo with gear running, till the end of the year. - I don't know what my "excuse" would be, since I don't need one. Probably rather an explanation to myself, so I can improve upon. That said the hot summer, with me having issues with heat would be part of it. - It's really time to get the AI development going in parallel, and it's to important and exiting to miss out on. I'm glad that I got my mind back into being interested in programming, instead of more general topics.

>>25411 Oh wow that was harsh for even me. Lol sorry I was drunk.

>>20385 Heh, no it was the exact opposite Anon. BTW, we're offtopic. If you want to continue this please move it to the current /meta, thanks.

>>20386 Somebody said yeah sure it'll cost as much as a luxury car :^) Luxury cars are not $10,000 btw Should I make the new off topic thread...

Hey sophiedev I'm having trouble downloading your files from mediafire. I could pay mediafire to download them but I rather pay you lol. I tried downloading them with python but they keep rate limiting me.

>>25379 Nvm I think I got it. Holy shit, that is a shit ton of file. Glad that link didn't die.

>>25420 Just how far did sophie dev get? Maybe I won't even have to base it off of inmoov

we´ve finally moved on to the painting process for certain parts, as well as shortening the arms a bit more while possible new hands are on the way

>>25361 Wow those look super-pro, Emmy-Pilled. I presume these will be the balls for a kind of BJD-type design for Emmy's joints?

good job looking good

>>25372 yes, they´re the same wooden balls you saw here >>25272 but painted >>25377 thanks

>>25306 I don't get hyped for games or movies, I get hyped for the nandroid project's progress

>>25215 >don't take this personally No. I had heard of them(...a great iconization of Leftists...)but actually came at them through Ada. I found that the adafruit people somehow have some sort of affiliation, however tenuous, with Ada which I didn't know about. They link each other. The people that did Ada I think made it too much by committee. The Ada fanatics say the newer versions have fixed a lot of this. They have further fixed this, I believe, by paring it down to a subset called Spark. Probably the most retarded name for for software ever. How many things are called Spark? Way too many. When you say Ada is "expensive" I think of it totally differently. It's well thought out, takes a whole approach to things and is not a hacked up abomination that C is. (I've been reading the "Unix Haters Handbook" again) If these people had real smarts they would make a good higher level Spark program, like they have, then they would get some sort of miracle C/C++ hacker and make an extensive C/C++ program that would test all the basics of the registers and all other functions of a processor or microprocessor, (in C/C++), and then just read what it compiled to. Then equate the complied machine code results to Spark commands and back compile a compiler for every processor they could find while leaving the high level Spark tools and programming syntax in place. There's not enough compilers for Spark for all the processors and making them is not easy. Why they don't use computers to do the things they are supposed too, drudgery work, and automate it. I have no idea. Likely because the Ada people hate C and the C people hate Ada so nothing good ever happens. Worse is better. I fully, I believe, understand why you like C/C++ so much. It gives you complete control but unless you have years of experience it can cause all sorts of grief. Stuff like Spark and Ada are essentially boring as they do things the right way. Ever heard, I know you have, the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worse_is_better That's what C/C++ is, worse. Let's note that while C/C++ might be easy to whip something up. All the time you spent with all the gotchas and memorizing all the gotchas you could have spent a little more time with something like Ada and got it right in the first place. C/C++ only seem easier after spending years hacking away at it. Stuff like Ada make take longer to set up but only because you have to get it right or it just bleeps at you and tells you, you fucked up. C will take whatever you throw at it and promptly throw up bits on your keyboard.

>>25219 > conflating the ultra-pozz den Adafruit, with the 40+yo US DARPA/DoD overarching, sprawling, mandated, programming language (rapidly 'replaced' by the MIC industry using C & C++ instead, b/c of Ada's intractability fail -- especially during the first couple decades of the enforced debacle). < shiggy > I fully, I believe, understand why you like C/C++ so much. I don't 'like' C++ except insofar as it is literally the #1 most-likely means for /robowaifu/ 's successful & complete, systems software solutions; to give all of us entirely-unencumbered, practical, realworld robowaifus. > That's what C/C++ is, worse. With all due respect Anon, this is the literal last time I'm having this debate with you. Kiwi's right, you keep rehashing topics repeatedly (cf., search your own use of the term 'worse': ITT ). By all means Anon, knock yourself out. You've expressed an interest in learning how to program software. Go ahead and tackle Ada as your language of choice. GCC offers a great front-end for the language via their amazing compiler system. [1] After enough experience, you too will understand why so few engineers willingly adopt the language on a personal level in actual production systems, and why it is literally one of the most expensive approaches to software development known today. > tl;dr Let's give any further programming language discussions between us a miss, friend Grommet. If you'd like to participate in our own /robowaifu/ programming classes here, and as long as you stay on-topic (ie, C++ programming, etc.), then of course that's an exception to this mandate regarding yourself. Cheers Anon, and kind regards. :^)

>>25243 >With all due respect Anon, this is the literal last time I'm having this debate with you. Kiwi's right, you keep rehashing topics repeatedly Fair enough and a fair criticism. I'll try to take it to heart. I do make mistakes and also try to admit it when I do. My apologies.

I was looking into Elixir (lang) for creating my implementation of the cognitive architecture. That said, I keep an open mind and found this here for C++: https://github.com/endurox-dev/endurox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enduro/X >Enduro/X is an open-source middleware platform for distributed transaction processing. It is built on proven APIs such as X/Open group's XATMI and XA. The platform is designed for building real-time microservices based applications with a clusterization option. Enduro/X functions as an extended drop-in replacement for Oracle Tuxedo. The platform uses in-memory POSIX Kernel queues which insures high interprocess communication throughput. > ... AGPL It also has Python bindings. Hmm. Anyone worked with this?

>>25219 >>25214 I’m a little late (don’t have a lot of time to be checking robowaifu) but I think I can say something of value for Grommet. While good languages can have less foot guns and be designed to make mistakes harder. A language should not be chosen "for being safer" or for any other memed purpose. Are you picking Ada because it solves problems for you or are you picking it because it’s "safe and runs on my heckin airplanes TM"? >but unless you have years of experience it can cause all sorts of grief. This is true, that’s why I advice starting now and start clocking in hours and gain experience and confidence. Even if the language stops memory bugs, there are so many other mistakes can and will make. You can write good code in almost any language, Just pick a language and start writing, try to learn the language as well as you can, don’t be stuck in analysis paralysis. I guess there is some irony in me saying this in a thread called "Selecting a Programming Language" but I think it’s the most helpful thing to say. If you want safety I recommend you take a proven approach, Test everything!!! you need 100% coverage and the tests need to be good and not overfited. SQLite is a perfect example of this. It’s very reliable, runs on le hecking airplanes & is bug free while being written in pure C. it’s not a stagnant codebase of untouchable C, because the tests are good, they can afford to do large rewrites between even minor releases.

>>25359 Epic roast of AI corporations, the tech sector in general and the US government: https://youtu.be/S2FYs_nzqp8 Claiming it's just a shakedown for campaign donations, and the technology doesn't work well enough anyways, but also there won't be enough regulation because the politicians just want the money.

Anyone know more about this/where it's from? https://teddit.net/r/singularity/comments/16lhyo6/robot_walking_with_natural_human_gait/

>>25387 nvm, link posted here https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1CK4y1c7sD/ watako-lab：https://watako-lab.com/ Twitter：https://twitter.com/WatakoLab/status/1614999169089036289

>>25387 >>25388 Great example of the benefits of going smol Anon, thanks. When you have a 45cm tall robowaifu, the current SOA of actuators means that the Square-cube Law actually benefits you. This is an important part of why I'm encouraging most anons -- for the time being -- to pursue headpat daughteru designs until we all get this ball rolling along together. Nice control software he's got going BTW. Very human-like gait and 'controlled falling' balance anticipation programmed in. Thanks again.

Hey anons, after shit breakup that was also betrayal, i want to get into robotics that ive thought about doing before since ive always tinkered with mechanical stuff, im looking for some guidance on whats the best robot starter kit to try (i checked lego mindstorms EV3 is recommended but its a retired product now unless i get it from ebay. What can anons recommend?

>>24950 Didn't he explain it in the video or in the comments?

>>24950 >Would be very useful for print in place tensegrity. Ahh, the old 'necessity is the mother of invention' driving-force of nature, ehh? :^) Very innovative thinking Anon. Godspeed.

>>24952 I looked, it actually isn't. I could try in OpenScad... <the rabbit hole teases you, some call it they Abyss>

>>24749 and >>24994 Related: >>24996

Wraith Madoka's true form has a fascinating design that looks similar to a tensegrity structure. This concept could be modified into a cute and functional robot

>>25198 Interesting question. If I understand you correctly, then yes, compiled C++ code can be executed via a web browser today. https://emscripten.org/

>>25394 Haha, nice one. :^) >tl;dr Debugging is still your fren. https://emscripten.org/docs/debugging/Sanitizers.html

>>25391 >Neat. The first three classes during this five-class, 2nd phase of our classroom are all about building a std::vector facsimile from scratch. Awesome. Also, due to the size of the programs I am working on, that size being fairly small, I use "using namespace std;" because I really do not like typing "std:: cout << " I hate using this "; I have heard it's bad programming practice for one reason or another.

>>25398 >I have heard it's bad programming practice for one reason or another. I don't particularly consider it bad practice per se, particularly for students. It's simply that when you're working as a professional, things can grow to a state of complexity that you definitely want things such as scoping (std:: namepace, etc.) spelled out explicitly -- and very close to the usage site in the codebase. >tl;dr using namespace std; is just fine for this class, Anon. So, back to classes. Mind spelling out some problems you're having with them? AMA.