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Lurk Less: Tasks to Tackle Robowaifu Technician 02/13/2023 (Mon) 05:40:18 No.20037 [Reply]
Here we share the ideas of how to help the development of robowaifus. You can look for tasks to improve the board, or ones which would help to move the development forward. You could also come up with a task that needs to be worked on and ask for help, use the pattern on top of OP for that, replace the part in <brackets> with your own text and post it. >Pattern to copy and adjust for adding a task to the thread: Task: <Description, general or very specific and target thread for the results> Tips: <Link additional information and add tips of how to achieve it.> Constraints and preferences: <Things to avoid> Results: Post your results in the prototypes thread if you designed something >>18800, or into an on-topic thread from the catalog if you found something or created a summary or diagram. General Disclaimer: Don't discuss your work on tasks in this thread, make a posting in another thread, or several of them, and then another one here linking to it. We do have a thread for prototypes >>18800, current meta >>18173 and many others in the catalog https://alogs.space/robowaifu/catalog.html - the thread for posting the result might also be the best place to discuss things. >General suggestions where you might be able to help: - Go through threads in the catalog here https://alogs.space/robowaifu/catalog.html and make summaries and diagrams like pointed out starting here >>10428 - Work on parts instead of trying to develop and build a whole robowaifu - Work on processes you find in some thread in the catalog https://alogs.space/robowaifu/catalog.html - Test existing mechanisms shared on this board, prototypes >>18800 - Try to work on sensors in some kind of rubber skin and in parts >>95 >>242 >>419 - Keep track of other sites and similar projects, for example on YouTube, Twitter or Hackaday. - Copy useful pieces of information from threads on other sites and boards talking about "sexbots", "chatbots", AI or something similar. Pick the right thread here: https://alogs.space/robowaifu/catalog.html

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Welcome to /robowaifu/ Anonymous 09/09/2019 (Mon) 00:33:54 No.3 [Reply]
Why Robowaifu? Most of the world's modern women have failed their men and their societies, feminism is rampant, and men around the world have been looking for a solution. History shows there are cultural and political solutions to this problem, but we believe that technology is the best way forward at present – specifically the technology of robotics. We are technologists, dreamers, hobbyists, geeks and robots looking forward to a day when any man can build the ideal companion he desires in his own home. However, not content to wait for the future; we are bringing that day forward. We are creating an active hobbyist scene of builders, programmers, artists, designers, and writers using the technology of today, not tomorrow. Join us! NOTES & FRIENDS > Notes: -This is generally a SFW board, given our engineering focus primarily. On-topic NSFW content is OK, but please spoiler it. -Our bunker is located at: https://anon.cafe/robowaifu/catalog.html Please make note of it. -Library thread (good for locating terms/topics) (>>7143) > Friends: -/clang/ - currently at https://8kun.top/clang/ - toaster-love NSFW. Metal clanging noises in the night. -/monster/ - currently at https://smuglo.li/monster/ - bizarre NSFW. Respect the robot. -/tech/ - currently at >>>/tech/ - installing Gentoo Anon? They'll fix you up. -/britfeel/ - currently at https://anon.cafe/britfeel/ - some good lads. Go share a pint! -/server/ - currently at https://anon.cafe/server/ - multi-board board. Eclectic thing of beauty. -/f/ - currently at https://anon.cafe/f/res/4.html#4 - doing flashtech old-school. -/kind/ - currently at https://wapchan.org/kind - be excellent to each other.

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Prototypes and Failures #4 Noido Dev ##pTGTWW 01/23/2024 (Tue) 03:17:26 No.28715 [Reply]
Post your prototypes and failures. We fail until we win. Don't forget looking through the old threads here >>418, >>18800 and >>21647 to understand how we got to where we are now.
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>>30558 stainless steel should be fine, ironically youre already running a wire through it so iccp (impressed current cathodic protection) might be interesting
>>30559 Friction produces heat for one thing. Or were you looking for other causes? > This study has demonstrated that oxidation does take place at a temperature as low as 200 °C. The oxygen can diffuse into copper to a distance greater than 100 nm after oxidation at 200 °C in air for only 1 minute https://www.researchgate.net/publication/293013781_Oxidation_Behavior_of_Copper_at_a_Temperature_below_300_C_and_the_Methodology_for_Passivation Actually thinking of it more a graphite powder lubricant can be good or bad depending on how many connections are there and if you isolate them where the graphite wont make a short circuit.
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I'm getting better at designing parts in a way that I can make animations out of it. It requires a different way of doing things, and always keeping that in mind. >>30567 >take place at a temperature as low as 200 °C I don't get it, this here would be at room temperature or whatever temperature small cables have. >if you isolate them where the graphite wont make a short circuit For adding a lubricant I would need to add a casing, which I will probably do, at least as an option.
>>30573 > I don't get it, this here would be at room temperature or whatever temperature small cables have. Higher the temperatures the more rapid oxidation and it even starts at around 200°C. Also metal expands when heated so uneven wear may occur over time causing rough spots that in theory could lead to small arcing which also oxidizes. Oxidized copper is not electrically conductive. The risk is likely small just worth keeping in mind in design. > For adding a lubricant I would need to add a casing, which I will probably do, at least as an option. I meant all the wire connections presumably pass through same hinge which I didnt consider originally so these need isolated from eachother within the hinge.
>>30574 You somehow seem to not have understand the whole concept. Overlooked something or whatever the reason is. Again: - It doesn't get anywhere near 200ºC, there's no heat involved or not much, or I don't know about it yet. - The different pairs of disk would be insulated, I wrote that in my first posting on this design: "Each pair of discs should be out of metal, while there's a layer of insulation in between." It's also somewhat obvious from the design >>30545 that the light blue disks are for insulation.

ROBOWAIFU U Robowaifu Technician 09/15/2019 (Sun) 05:52:02 No.235 [Reply] [Last]
In this thread post links to books, videos, MOOCs, tutorials, forums, and general learning resources about creating robots (particularly humanoid robots), writing AI or other robotics related software, design or art software, electronics, makerspace training stuff or just about anything that's specifically an educational resource and also useful for anons learning how to build their own robowaifus. >tl;dr ITT we mek /robowaifu/ school.
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>>30566 what is the upper limit?
>>30568 I think 20MB.
>>30569 oh that explains it. these books are pretty big at 80+ MBs
>>30569 oh that explains it. these books are pretty big at 80+ MBs
>>30575 You can upload them at catbox.moe and link here. Or make a MEGA account, but they would probably need to be encrypted or something to avoid their copyright scanners. Maybe don't use the same account you want to keep for other use cases, idk.

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/robowaifu/meta-9: Wintertime will be sublime. Chobitsu Board owner 10/30/2023 (Mon) 00:42:15 No.26137 [Reply] [Last]
/meta, offtopic, & QTDDTOT >--- General /robowaifu/ team survey (please reply ITT) (>>15486) >--- Mini-FAQ >A few hand-picked posts on various /robowaifu/-related topics -Why is keeping mass (weight) low so important? (>>4313) -How to get started with AI/ML for beginners (>>18306) -"The Big 4" things we need to solve here (>>15182) -HOW TO SOLVE IT (>>4143) -Why we exist on an imageboard, and not some other forum platform (>>15638, >>17937) -This is madness! You can't possibly succeed, so why even bother? (>>20208, >>23969) -All AI programming is done in Python. So why are you using C & C++ here? (>>21057, >>21091, >>27167, >>29994)

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>>30497 >Ideally, I'd want a bot capable of full locomotion. Capable of cooking, cleaning, and simple tasks around the house. Then get something functional to do that part. Doesn't even need to look like a human, or only be one bot. Something like Stretch makes more sense, though it's overpriced but will get cheaper: https://spectrum.ieee.org/hello-robots-stretch-mobile-manipulator - You can also get a Thermomix and something like a Roomba, or work on cheaper variants of these robot arms doing cooking, maybe with some design from Skyentific on Youtube. The robowaifu can be separate and optional.
>Seems like wasted energy to try to bend things against their intended use instead of reworking them to actually primarily serve the intended purpose. At present, I would agree. Even the most sophisticated AI from Open AI/Claude with biggest context windows are still little more than very complex random number generators. While I enjoy delving into RPs and having them help me with writing and other tasks, the truth is they're not sentient and they're design doesn't lend them to being used as on board robot waifu AIs. At least not yet. The tail end of my fantasy ended in us hitting the exponential AI curve where the AI improves on itself faster than we can. I don't think we'll get that lucky before 2030, I gave it a 1 in 10 chance. Still, one can hope. >full dive meme This leans more into the pie-the-sky stuff, assuming we hit the curve and then somehow manage to get into the singularity after the fact. I can see us no longer needing our crude biomass at that point but I highly doubt we'll get full dive or anything equivalent to that within my lifetime. >This (cyberpunk dystopia) isnt something to hope for. Again, I would agee, but it's what I've come to expect living on this plant for at least 30 years. The occams razor of "will people do what is right for society at large or will they be greedy and self serving?" is the question I see. You only need a handful of people taking the more selfish route in the socital prisoner's delmia to turn the world into a complete shithole. While the cyberpunk dystopia isn't what I'm hoping for, I'm afraid its what we're going to end up with in the end. >Well there are several open source home assistant programs currently to look into. Nothing has made enough noise yet to really get my attention. I'm optimistic for the future though, cyberpunk dystopia or otherwise. >>30508 I'd brought up before in thread long ago that a quadruped bot might be better insofar as not having to account for bipedal movement. A cybercentaur if you will. Generally speaking, I do desire the human aesthetic for my robot maid/domestic helper. That's pretty far off for sure but I'm holding to hope for the curve lifting everyone up.
It's taking me long to reply because my ISP is T-Mobile and the entire IP range is banned for spam. I have to leave the house to post here. >>30441 >Being less vague when asking for help is where you should start. Share the patent. No. >Your current reason for attempting replication. Because I believe that it could make me a lot of money, relying on secrecy due to the actual patent having expired decades ago. Sharing the patent number is the quickest way to make myself irrelevant. >>30443 >there are better forums and places for learning the basics of electronics or any topic we're covering here. That's what I'm looking for. If the project was more closely related to robowaifus in any way then I'd share the details of it in full. >>30444 The patent used vacuum tubes because it is old. I thought it needed a few kV to work, but I've checked my notes again and I think that it can work with as little as 20 volts with modern circuitry, but If I'm lucky it might work with as little as 5v.
>>30533 When filing a patent it is publicly viewable and any company can just copy whatever you made pretty much instantly and do it cheaper and you cant do shit about it because the costs and time involved in a lawsuit. The only way around it is if it is complex enough you dont need to patent it because it isnt easy to reverse engineer or if you have some company buy it from you right away. Well that is unless you only mean making it as a niche item hoping few notice it but just enough do to turn modest profit.
Hey Chob, half the links on the welcome sticky are dead. Mostly cause half the links are to anoncafe boards.

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Actuators For Waifu Movement Part 3 Kiwi 12/06/2023 (Wed) 01:18:16 No.27021 [Reply] [Last]
(1stl thread >>406 2nd thread >>12810) Kiwi back again with a thread for discussing actuators to move your waifu! Part Three! Let's start with a quick introduction to common actuators! 1. DC motors, these use brushes to switch the ferrous core electromagnets on a rotor to rotate its magnetic field relative to surrounding magnets! They're one of the cheapest options with an average efficiency range of 30 to 90%. Larger DC motors and motors with higher turn counts are more efficient. 1.5 Coreless DC motors, by removing ferrous materials, losses from hysteresis are almost eliminated, dramatically increasing efficiency to nearly 90% even in small motors. Eliminating the ferrous materials reduces flux focusing, resulting in weaker fields and higher speeds. 2. Brushless DC motors (BLDC), these use a controller to switch the electromagnets on a stator to rotate the magnets of a rotor! Without brushes, they have the potential to be more efficient with higher power density compared to DC motors. Their efficiency and behavior vary depending on the algorithm and sensors used to control them. Coreless brushless motors exist but are rare and only used for very niche applications. 3. AC motors, a wide and incredibly varied category. They all rely on AC’s frequency to control them. With single phase AC motors relying on shaded poles, capacitors, or some other method to induce a rotating magnetic field. 3 phase AC motors naturally have a rotating field which usually gives them higher efficiency and power density. Notably, most AC motors are brushless. The most commonly used brushed AC motor is the universal motor, which is 4. Stepper motors, brushless motors with ferrous teeth to focus magnetic flux. This allows for incredible control (stepping) at the cost of greater mass, subsequently giving them higher rotary inertia. Usually 50 to 80% efficient depending on control algorithm/speed/and quality of the stepper. Due to their increasing mass production (& ubiquitous low cost controllers), they have appeal as a lower cost alternative to BLDC motors if one carefully designs around them. 5. Coiled Nylon Actuators! These things have an efficiency rating so low it's best to just say they aren't efficient. (0.01% typical, 2% achieved under extremely specific conditions in a lab.) Though they are exciting due to their incredible low cost of fabrication, they’re far too slow and the energy requirements are nonsensical. https://youtu.be/S4-3_DnKE9E https://youtu.be/wltLEzQnznM 6. Hydraulics! These rely on the distribution of pressure in a working liquid to move things like pistons. Though popular in large scale industry, their ability to be used in waifu's has yet to be proven. (Boston Dynamics Atlas runs on hydraulics but it's a power guzzler and heavy) Efficiency varies wildly depending on implementation. They would work great for a giantess! 7. Pneumatics, hydraulics lighter sister! This time the fluid is air! This has the advantage in weight. They aren't capable of the same power loads hydraulics are but, who wants their waifu to bench press a car? (Too loud and inefficient for mobile robotics.) 8. Wax motors, hydraulic systems where the working fluid is expanding melted (commonly paraffin) wax! Cheap, low power, and produce incredible forces! Too bad they're slow and hard to control. 9. Explosion! Yes, you can move things through explosions! Gas engines work through explosions! Artificial muscles can be made by exploding a hydrogen and oxygen mixture in a piston, then using hydrolysis to turn the water back into hydrogen and oxygen. None of this is efficient or practical but it's vital we keep our minds open! Though there are more actuators, most are derivatives or use these examples to work. Things like pulleys need an actuator to move them. Now, let's share, learn, and get our waifu moving!

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Switched reluctance motors are great for gaining a better understanding of the physics which governs motor movement. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IUVjp03On8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAhF45AtsgA
>>30353 Yes, they're about 1~5% efficient, are slow, need high precision heat control, do not work in cold or hot environments without good engineering, etc... Though cheap and easy as crisps, they just have too many problems. I like them and wish they can be cheap and electroactive while requiring sub kV range voltages If you're interested, read papers published on them and try to make your own. There's plenty of room for improvements and I'd be grateful to have a viable alternative to heavy gear motors. PLA and plastic polymers based on it could be a great and cheap start to your research. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiOn-LqW4KI
>>30353 I don't know why I overlooked that, but some of us want to use water cooling inside, then store it and it might be used for muscles (e.g. nylon) which are just complementary. I also think small muscles might make sense in some places, e.g. the face. > SMP filaments Thanks, I'll look into it. >>30549 Interesting, especially with that video, thanks.
>>30549 Isn't that 1-5% just for one specific kind the kind of coiled nylon muscles or I may be getting mixed up. Though I came across info on why heat is a poor activator, it is faster to heat an object than cool it so it isnt exactly even how it operates. Doing more digging I just now came across solid state actuators which includes things such as ionic polymer metal composites which seemingly can operate at low voltage. Ive yet to figure out performance and possible use of them. Im not sure why they think only make a flat object instead of a design that can have pulling force like a cross pattern or something XXXXXXXXX but maybe it would be too weak to be of use? https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1385894723027079 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1jkAQ-pBpU >>30557 Id question using water. My thought was using electric heating wires to control the SMPs but Im second guessing using SMPs that require temperature changes.
>>30578 >Id question using water. My thought was using electric heating wires to control the SMPs We had this several times during the years, not sure if something changed. If you have wires bending then they might break. I recall some video testing these actuators and the results simply weren't good. Good look anyways, but always keep in mind it has to work 10k*X times or 100k*X times.

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General Robotics/A.I./Software News, Commentary, + /pol/ Funposting Zone #4 NoidoDev ##eCt7e4 07/19/2023 (Wed) 23:21:28 No.24081 [Reply] [Last]
Anything in general related to the Robotics or A.I. industries, and any social or economic issues surrounding it (especially of robowaifus). -previous threads: > #1 (>>404) > #2 (>>16732) > #3 (>>21140)
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>>30570 >I guess this is the /clang/ embassy thread now. Cool. Did it shut down?
Anyone has the discord server invite link here?
>>30571 I mean, not officially, but for all intents and purposes /clang/ is as dead as it gets. >>30577 I'll see if I can get someone to send an invite.

Waifu Materials Robowaifu Technician 09/12/2019 (Thu) 03:04:33 No.154 [Reply] [Last]
I would define a robowaifu as a doll with robotic features. However there are many different types of dolls (BJD, cloth doll, sex doll, etc). A doll has a skin or surface material, sometimes a filler (cotton), and sometimes internal structure (bones and joints).

Continuing the discussion from (((>>2831 >>2836 todo:relink))) , I want to create a thread to explore the many possible surface materials for a waifu (robo or no). The most important decision is whether to use a hard or soft material.

Hard Materials
>Ceramics
>Wood
>3D Printed Hard Plastic (PLA/ABS)
>Injection Molded Hard Plastic

Soft Materials
>Natural Fabrics (Cotton, Silk, Wool)
>Synthetic Fabrics (Vinyl, Polyester, Nylon)
>Fur/Hair (presumably synthetic, inb4 yiff in hell)
>Silicone or TPE Rubber (TPE is basically a cheaper form of silicone)

I'm strongly biased against the hard materials for comfort reasons. Personally, I have a hard time seeing myself falling in love with something hard, but others on this board talk about using hard materials, so I'm trying to keep an open mind.

My preference is for silicone, but there are four big problems with it. Firstly, it's expensive. Secondly, it impedes modification after the silicone has set. Thirdly, it contributes to the uncanny valley/silicone slut issue. Fourthly, it is heavy, and this weight really constrains the skeleton, posablity, and probably robotics. Because of the weight, silicone dolls have heavy-duty skeletons.

My second choice is therefore fabric, presumably stuffed with cotton. Fabric is super comfy, and has no uncanny valley issue. A non-fuggable fabric doll or robot would have no stigma issue, and could be the start of a productive hobbyist scene with plenty of females. Fabric is extremely lightweight which could be a plus or a minus. By itself, its unsubstantial and not ideal for robotics. A fabric robot is possible, but it requires hard, heavy parts underneath to provide structure and as actuators, which would make it less comfy. The fabric could be a textile (cotton), a synthetic leather (resembles skin, makeup/dress-up potential), or synthetic fur for you furfags out there.

Another possibility is a hard vinyl BJD-like doll with a layer of something comfy on top. Alternately, you all can reject my comfort autism if the benefits of having a hard doll/robot are clear enough. I'd like to hear others make the case for a hard doll/robot, since I don't think I could do the argument justice.

Finally, this is a discussion, not a debate. There are multiple paths we could take, and I'm sure different robowaifuists will try different techniques to see what works and what doesn't. I'm more interested in seeing what options are on the table than shutting down any particular approach.
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>>30529 True, but you still need to form it, also while being warm. It's also being used for making things that way because it's has a low melting point, which might be disadvantage in many cases when it comes to make something useful. Especially with motors that create heat. It's also not very strong, just tends to bend and not break, which can be good for security reasons. I always thought it might be interesting to make full body molds for adding the silicone shell. If someone makes a lot of them, then it might be useful to reduce the price of plastics. For normal prototyping work it doesn't really matter, since plastic isn't really that expensive and we don't need that much and other also it's not the right one. Then again, it might be interesting for people in poor countries. You can collect quite some of it over time just by keeping household waste made out of it. If someone would need more, it might be possible to collect it or ask the company collecting it with containers to buy some of it for cheap. Also, please don't do this indoors, however much you may think the dangers of chemicals or fumes are just something activists make up in their minds. 3D printers have a temperature control and only melt small amounts at a time. Trying to melt bigger parts with a less precise device will certainly create even more dangerous fumes.
>>30529 HDPE type IV and type VII plastics are not thermo-reactive: they can be melted down multiple times without emitting many harmful fumes and remain stable (provided you don't burn them). Any other type of HDPE undergo a chemical change upon heating (thermo-reactive) thus their recycling methods are more complex (usually chemical) and ill suited for DIY use. Typically, the type is a number inside the little recycling symbol. I looked into them a little over a decade ago investigating diy vaccu-forming. Gallon milk jugs are the most common source.
>>30532 My thought process was the moderate flex is good for a shell at least but fact it is used for pallets and deck boards it cant be that bad at supporting weight when thick enough. I am seeing different melting points all over but lower ones i can find is 125°C with a max use temp of 120°C which I think means it doesnt become more flexible until that temperature so it doesn't warp till. Different types of plastics release different kind of chemical fumes. TPU releases hydrogen cyanide when heated enough as one example. Im not sure what HDPE produces. Just thinking of ultra cheap materials. here is a thought what about making paper mache and paper mache clay using food safe silicone glue and unbleached paper ? In theory this should create a fire retardant silicone paper structure.
>>30534 I see. I didn't know there were subtypes of HDPE and I can't even find information substantiating this.
>>5154 >>15227 >oogoo I found something interesting. Apparently if you use PEG 3350 (you know like Miralax type laxatives) instead of corn starch it makes it a shape memory polymer. Found it in some random student lesson. I suspect the ratio needs adjusting though. https://www.uakron.edu/polymer/agpa-k12outreach/lesson-plans/making-a-shape-memory-polymer-from-silicone-i-caulk-and-miralax Then when I looked into this a bit I came across a paper describing use of PEG 600 with silicone to create an electroactive polymer. https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/0022-3727/45/48/485303/pdf

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Emmy The Robot Robowaifu Technician 12/20/2023 (Wed) 15:04:29 No.27481 [Reply] [Last]
Welcome all Nandroids fans to the Emmy thread, for discussing and posting about EtR. Please refrain from posting off-topic or non-Nandroid related things. --- Also, be sure to check out Emmy-Pilled's project thread! (>>25306) Important Community Links: Booru: https://nandroid.booru.org/index.php Google Docs: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mXuNh9ESedCiDZclVuz9uiL7nTNk3U9SgCE_CRHi3Us/htmlview# Webtoons: https://m.webtoons.com/en/canvas/emmy-the-robot/list?title_no=402201 > previous threads : >>26629 Only Kiwi & Chobitsu can correct grammar.
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>>30447 cute as fuck is what it is :D
>>30458 >>30459 dustiest 'cord subterranean coal
seems the weekly thread died just before I could post. Here´s to this upcoming saturday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n63o0dE44jo

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nandroid project II Emmy-Pilled 09/11/2023 (Mon) 01:03:11 No.25306 [Reply] [Last]
building own personal nandroid doll continuation of previous thread: https://alogs.space/robowaifu/res/19226.html#
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new eyes and cheeks fitting a lot better, sanding, molds and casting expected to be done along the next week
>>30470 Looks nice. Are the holes in the eyes to attach eyelashes?
>>30502 Yes.
Great progress, Emmy-Pilled!
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>>30541 as we have now passed the second year anniversary, the big flexes are coming now https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n63o0dE44jo

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