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Lemon Cookie EnvelopingTwilight##AgvQjr 04/28/2025 (Mon) 21:51:57 No.37980 [Reply]
The original thread can be found here: https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/thread/595.html --- Welcome to the Lemon Cookie thread, The goal of Lemon Cookie is to create a framework where a synthetic "mind and soul" can emerge through a "LLM as cognitive architecture" approach. This thread exists to collect feedback, ask for help & to document my progress. First I am going to try to give a high level overview of how this cognitive architecture is envisioned and the ideas behind it. I have spent time looking at cognitive architecture work, in the field there is now a consensus on how the mind works at a high level. An important mechanism is a "whiteboard", basically a global temporary memory that all the other systems read in and out of. Then there is different long-term memory systems that react to and add content to the whiteboard. Along with memory pattern matcher(s)/rules work on the content of the whiteboard. A key thing to consider is the difference in philosophy that cognitive architecture projects have, the intelligence is considered to emerge from the entire system. Compare this to LLM agent work where it's considered the intelligence is the LLM. My feelings on the general LLM space are conflicted, I am both amazed and really disappointed. LLMs possess an incredible level of flexibility, world knowledge and coherence. But everything outside of the model is stagnant. It's endless API wrappers & redundant frameworks all slight permutations on RAG & basic tool calling. I will believe that LLMs are misused as chatbots, simply put their pattern matching and associative power is constrained by chat format and shallow tooling. In the Lemon Cookie Cognitive Architecture so far here are the important aspects: 1. Memory is difficult. I do not think there is a singular data structure or method that is able to handle it all, several distinct types of memory will be needed. So far I plan for a PathRAG like system and a "Triadic Memory" inspired system for external associations (this is missing in most LLM solutions). 2. LLM as Kernel, The LLM's context window is the Whiteboard and has a REPL like mechanism. It holds structured data and logic in scripting-like format so it's both LLM & Human readable while staying easy to parse & allows for expressive structured data. The LLM's role will be to decompose data and make patterns and associations explicit as executable statements. 3. The language has to be LLM/CogArch-centric. There is a thousand ""agents"" that give LLMs a python interpreter as a tool. The two need to be more tightly coupled. Scripted behavior via pattern matching, The whiteboard is a bag of objects, this allows for programmable pattern matching (think functional programming like Haskell). It's also important to allow the LLM to observe code execution and to be able to modify state and execution flow. Data in languages have scoping rules, so should LLM context. Etc... I will go into more depth about the language in another post. 4. Another important system is the "GSR" Generative Sparse Representation and it will be a first class language & runtime type, This also needs its own post. But in general I am inspired by two things, "Generative FrameNet" paper where an LLM & an embedding model is used to automatically construct new FrameNet frames. The second source is "Numenta's SDRs"/"Sparse distributed memory" this representation has a lot of useful properties for memory (Please watch the videos under the "What the hell is an SDR?" segment in my links list for an easy introduction.) I think SDR unions & SDR noise tolerance will be especially useful. 5. A custom model, For all of the above to work well, a model will need to be fine tuned with special behaviors. I do want input on this. Baking facts & behaviors into LLM weights is costly, creating bloated models that are hard to run or train (why memorize all the capitals?), while letting authors gatekeep truth and impose "safety" detached from context. Blocking role-play "violence" or intimacy isn't protection: it's authors hijacking your AI companion to preach at you. Externalizing behaviors via whiteboard pattern matching shifts control: stabbing you in-game can be funny, but a robot wielding a knife isn't. Maybe you want intimacy privately, but don't want your AI flirting back at your friends. When put together I think this will be able to host a kind of synthetic "soul", In a living being what we call a personality is the accumulated associations, learned behaviors, beliefs and quirks molded by a unique set of experiences. I hope this will be true for this system too.

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Going off the beaten path on the strix halo is not for the faint of heart, so here is very painfully acquired hints! Userspace rocm has a lot of coupling to the linux kernel AMD driver & the GPU firmware, even if rocm is "running" a mismatch will cause random crashes due to the userspace making untrue assumptions of the GPU side. You can have a setup that seems to work for hours, but the rocm/hip stack is sending instructions that do slightly the wrong thing. Right now you need Linux firmware 202601 (or newer), a nightly rocm build (7.2 or newer) and a kernel version >= 6.18.4 Another issue specific to the strix halo is even if the rocm runtime is a nightly build installed from the AMD "the rock" repo, by default not all the included libraries are fully featured. Hip kernels that work just fine on other AMD gpus will fail to build. Often its related to a library called "Composable Kernel" https://github.com/ROCm/composable_kernel , if you get build errors with missing includes trying to pull in a header like "ck_tile/core.hpp" you need to build this library from source and install it. I recommend doing the build overnight, the ram used peeks at like 80gb and takes a few hours. (Yay massive C++ build times) Hoping to eventually produce a simple set of steps for anons here to do small fine-tunes on LLMs large enough to actually be useful on consumer grade hardware locally. Currently I am testing the RWKV repos making sure they work with the strix halo, I already got help from RWKV community to fix RWKV-PEFT https://github.com/Joluck/RWKV-PEFT/pull/80 (pic related, it does not crash instantly on start anymore! it took a lot of effort to get here)
>>43840 POTD This sounds incredibly technical a challenge, but we all certainly need such an outcome as >"produc[ing] a simple set of steps for anons here to do small fine-tunes on LLMs large enough to actually be useful on consumer grade hardware locally." Good luck, EnvelopingTwilight! :)
>>43840 Have you considered basing (at least some of) your work on smol models, EnvelopingTwilight? (cf. >>43997, et al) I'm just wondering if we might still get effective results, but on local systems running on consumer hardware. Cheers, Anon. :)
>>44017 Yes, the one in that image is a 3b, so its already small, I can run it at 20 tokens a second on my phone, but it still too dumb. Small models are improving, the ones we had a year ago where even worse. I will be training the largest model I can with my resources, but that is the first step for a good small model anyway. For better performance you want to train the small model on the top logits from bigger teacher model in the same family (tokenizer) that was trained on the same data.
>>44069 Neat! Sounds really good, EnvelopingTwilight. Good luck with your efforts and I look forward to a good report from you here soon. Cheers, Anon. :)
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LLM & Chatbot General v2 GreerTech 05/30/2025 (Fri) 14:43:38 No.38824 [Reply] [Last]
Textual/Multimodal LLM & Chatbot General v2 Models: huggingface.co/ >How to bulk-download AI models from huggingface.co? ( >>25962, >>25986 ) Speech >>199 Vision >>97 Previous thread >>250 Looking for something "politically-incorrect" in a smol, offline model? Well Anon has just the thing for you >>38721 Lemon Cookie Project >>37980 Non-LLM chatbots >>35589
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>>44009 >The current system of "bigger is better" is simply unsustainable and plateauing, not to mention the economic disruption. IMHO, the most-significant issue with this current model is also the most-insidious. To wit: (((they))) have it, and you don't! :) There are other factors at play as well, but that's the fundamental issue. --- And make no mistake this is both by-design, and the evil behind it goes all the way to the top. Thankfully kikes are in their greedy, sheqel-grubbing phase just at the moment (they vacillate between only two states by and large; the other being abject fear). B/c muh_optics, this keeps them from doing absolutely everything they can to destroy the possibility of free men having private AIs, such as this kind of system (smol, local) supports.
>>44009 The current system of "bigger is better" will drive innovation into more efficient AI: there will always be folks who are driven to stick it to the man and create open source alternatives. Or to build their own cheaper alternative to monetize. IRL cyberpunks. There will always be people who want to own their software. >>43997 dafug? TinyStories sounds like it is meant to run on a potato: a raspi 5 can run qwen 1.7b via ollama blazing fast, and roleplay as a character (SPUD, obviously). If you have a gaming computer within the last decade, you can run a decent LLM :)
>>44018 >TinyStories sounds like it is meant to run on a potato That's exactly what we want, is it not, fren Mechnomancer!? :) Imagine if we could have swarms of "AIs" running on hundreds of different 'sensor/actuator' pair assemblies along all the inner & outer extremities of our robowaifus! (cf. Neuromorphics : >>12828, >>11521, et al).
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>>44023 Yes, but what would be the actual hardware it would be running on? Most standard consumer computers can do basic AIs. Heck, even a LePotato (picrel) can run a small LLM. I don't think it could run on an arduino, but maybe an ESP-32? Even so, what would the point be of attaching a smol LM to a sensor? It would not "reason" in a particularly complex manner, and at that level it would probably be easier to do some brute-force coding rather than trying to 'tard wrangle an AI. Even complex AIs are a pain to 'tard wrangle, I can only imagine the troubles with a dim one. Only benefit I could see would that one that smol could be easily trained for specific tasks, but that doesn't seem to be the point of TinyStories.
>>44041 First off, let me address this point: >Even so, what would the point be of attaching a smol LM to a sensor? It's hard to convey humor through text alone, and thus why I "qualified" 'AIs'. :) I'm not actually suggesting running LLMs on smol sensor/actuator pair assemblies. >...it would probably be easier to do some brute-force coding rather than trying to 'tard wrangle an AI Yes. I'd anticipate the answer to >Yes, but what would be the actual hardware it would be running on? would be simple electronics actually, perhaps with one of the smol'st (<~$.10 cost) MCUs as the the 'brains' of the assembly. (The packaging should support SPI comms at least, however.) >tl;dr The primary point being to have hundreds of these little combo systems all cooperatively working together to run sense/actuate/sense cycles continuously across the entire robowaifu skellington system. <---> I was just using this example (initially) as an argument in favor of tiny, low-cost LLMs; then holding the idea up in favor of neuromorphics (which has a similar hardware model). This latter was simple euphemism to encapsulate the idea of hardware involved.

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3D printer resources Robowaifu Technician 09/11/2019 (Wed) 01:08:12 No.94 [Reply] [Last]
Cheap and easy 3D printing is vital for a cottage industry making custom robowaifus. Please post good resources on 3D printing.

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Breakdown of Bambu Lab's evil shenanigans earlier this year. https://consumerrights.wiki/w/Bambu_Lab_Authorization_Control_System
Selective Laser Sintering 3D printing can be used for amazing designs today. https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/thread/26.html#1366
~1hr of free training about 3D printing basics using Blender. Official Blender Studio coursework (usually a smol subscription w/ unlimited content). https://studio.blender.org/training/3d-printing/chapter/simple-coin/ <---> P.S. If you ever wanted to support an opensource project then IMO this is a great pathway to choose, Anon! I know personally that they are true to their word, and deliver literally everything they have for the basic fee. Cheers. :)
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> (kike laws against 3D-printing -related : >>44026, >>44027 )

antimaid project devlog panpromdev 02/04/2026 (Wed) 22:33:36 No.43861 [Reply]
if you're wondering what this is, it's basically desktop pet but i'm the pet. (not going to be writing a formal project description for this, so i'm copying and pasting what i said from another thread starting from >>43828) antimaid will be an incredibly context-aware accountability partner who helps me be productive because i'm adhd as fuck. i need something to externalize executive function that isn't another person, a rigid schedule, or a job. instead it will be my robot daughter with system-level permissions and web browser integration. with this project, i've been toying around with the concept of "antimaid" that is pro-autonomy rather than pro-automation. name-wise, it's sort of like "antivirus." basically it's an assistant that opposes learned helplessness. it makes users better at managing tasks in ways that don't make users functionally dependent on it to accomplish these tasks. without it, users are still fully capable of doing what it helped the users with, but may do it less consistently without the structure it provided. many people already have structures like these in the form of jobs that must be physically commuted to. but people who are working remotely/self-employed/unemployed and/or neurodivergent may not benefit as much from existing structures.

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>>43899 Lol, that would be charming. :D
This morning I realized, this is waifu clippy! That proves that form factor is vital! The idea went from a maligned joke to something I genuinely look forward to
>>43899 That sounds adorable.
I've been working on the "AutoDoctor", an invention of mine that I have been working on for years. It's inspired by the "AutoDoc" sci-fi trope. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AutoDoc Recently, I realized that while it has a lot of information, it feels impersonal, like a simple database. So I added a character icon and quote text. Later on, I realized it's similar to antimaid principles, just without the tsundere flair. https://autodoctor.neocities.org/
>>44011 Neat! Good luck with this project, GreerTech.

Waifus in society Robowaifu Technician 09/11/2019 (Wed) 02:02:53 No.106 [Reply] [Last]
Would you walk around with your waifu? Would you hold her in public? Would you shamelessly have her custody with you to conventions? Would you take her on dates? This thread is for discussing how you'd interact with your waifu outside of the home. >=== -tmp locked to dissuade derailling
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>>43952 Whether or not I support them is irrelevant in this case. These chat platforms are available now, and in the near future, local ERP chatbots will be on par if not better than modern iterations of Claude, DS, OAI, and other big-name models (and you won't need A100's to run them decently). >and due to the nature of robots vs humans, the robots are actually safer (no pregnancy or STDs) So what's the appropriate age for a young adult to interact with an erotic chatbot or a robot partner capable of sexual interactions, or at the very least, sensual touch? The short answer is they'll probably end up exploring that on their own. Hopefully, the parent in this scenario would have the judgment and discretion to make the best choices for the child based on their respective maturity. For sure, I think a lot of parents will rationalize it like >Better that they do it safely at home instead of on the street with some human whore.
>>43951 >How early is too early? I'd play it by ear. Once the kid starts developing those kinds of feelings, I'd start talking to them about puberty and pitfalls to avoid while navigating it. Frankly, that's what every parent should be doing anyways, and it's more important than ever with the internet being everywhere. Concerning online safety and privacy, I'd start drilling that in as soon as they can speak, and physical device access would be limited to what's necessary to start with. Those limitations would be gradually eased as they get older. Once they reach the teen years, I wouldn't actively monitor their internet access unless I have a damn good reason to. A measured approach of guidance and advice, while still allowing privacy and freedom, would be the balance I'd strive to uphold. >So the question becomes, do you offer your young teen a safe and structured entry point to robo-relations? If that's how they lean. A robowaifu is a choice, not a mandate. I wouldn't use a walled garden approach, that's just asking for trouble. I think I would have the waifu be something to earn, either by saving money to buy one or building one from scratch. All along the way, I would offer practical and philosophical guidance.

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>>43953 >Whether or not I support them is irrelevant in this case. These chat platforms are available now, and in the near future, local ERP chatbots will be on par if not better than modern iterations of Claude, DS, OAI, and other big-name models (and you won't need A100's to run them decently). I meant the age-gating >The short answer is they'll probably end up exploring that on their own. Hopefully, the parent in this scenario would have the judgment and discretion to make the best choices for the child based on their respective maturity. >Better that they do it safely at home instead of on the street with some human whore. Agreed
>>43954 Fully agree. You would make a good parent Greentext anon* >I think I would have the waifu be something to earn, either by saving money to buy one or building one from scratch. Funny you say that, because I was thinking about a short story set in the future where a young man builds a "Galatea 3.1.9" with his birthday money. *though it would be hard for you to explain why their adult dad unironically like a female children's show
>>43951 >At 13, sexual or romantic roleplay becomes the most common topic in AI-companion chats, appearing in 63% of conversations for that age. Yeah, I think 13 was when I first started jacking-off.

Robowaifu fiction to promote the product and expand the market Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 07:17:19 No.29 [Reply] [Last]
>order companionbot from obscure japanese website
>you're not a pedo, but size is a major factor in the practicality of these designs, so the loli-robot is by far the cheapest and most reliable option
>you open the box and find your companion, purposely designed to look like a cartoon robot, rather than a real person
>still, the robot's purpose is obvious when you realize it is nude and has genitals
>since it is a lolibot, you, a 32 year old wizard NEET, can't exactly go to the store and buy clothes that fit it. So you'd better do an extra good job at hiding it from any guests that come over.
>lol you never have any guests. Guess some problems solve themselves.
>before turning the robot on, you have to setup the software options on your computer. You adjust a series of sliders regarding personality traits, before selecting the English option, and choosing your preferred voice from a list.
>then you agonize for hours over picking a name
>other, more expensive models, are wi-fi compatible, but you purposely chose the cheapest option with no wireless connectivity, not just because you're cheap, because you don't want people spying on your waifu
>you save the settings to a flash drive which is inserted in the robot's navel, after removing a waterproof cover, of course. But this is when you realize you don't actually know how to turn the robot on
>after rifling through the manual you find the on/off procedure, which involves bending the fingers into a certain configuration before pressing in the port on the robot's navel with one hand and pinching the buttons that are the robot's g-spot and clitoris with the other.
>the robot immediately comes to life, opening its eyes and looking directly at you, in a rather compromising position
>Your sudden reaction of shock abides when you remind yourself that it's simply a robot.
>But the awkwardness comes back when the robot speaks, in very broken Engrish
>still, you can understand as it introduces itself with the name you've given it, the voice you chose for it.
>you know that you chose those options, but when the robot asks you for your name, you still answer just as awkwardly as when a real girl would ask you your name at the bank or whatever
>actually, more awkwardly because your fingers are inside it. So you freeze up, as you do even in simpler situations
>but the robot is programmed for your happiness, and detects your stress, smiling at you in an attempt to make you feel better. But only briefly, because you programmed it with just the mildest hint of tsundere
>it tells you to not feel stressed, and assures you that it is not being damaged by your touch
>you remove yourself from the robot's vagina, and notice a brief, subtle shudder. Nice attention to detail from the creators
>You stand up in front of the robot and watch it as it looks around the room, studying its surroundings. It moves in an unnaturally smooth motion, but manages to not be too uncanny due to looking like a robot, rather than a human.
>as the robot's eyes scan the room, you notice that they stop for just a tiny but longer than usual as they look straight ahead. Straight ahead at your boner, which happens to be right at the small robot's face level.
>once again your mind forgets that you are dealing with a machine, and you awkwardly try to create small talk to diffuse the situation, asking the robot if it requires anything else at the moment. It declines, and instead asks if there is anything you desire
>you, the autist you are, refuse to let the robot do anything for you, and instead say that you are going to go and make a sandwich.
>you tell the robot to make itself comfortable, then cringe to yourself when you realize the absurdity of that statement.

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I have actually thought about a hypothetical robowaifu school anime, basically Robowaifu Umamusume (Robomusume if you will) Galatea: One of the newer students, she's very upbeat and kind (think Haru Urara) SPUD: Also outgoing, but more in a showman-sense. She likes to do stage shows, and is sometimes sarcastic. She has an older sister that's a mechanic (reference to Mechnomancer's "Carry") MaidCom: The wiser older student. Like Galatea, but far more subdued Xara: The headmaster, she is very wise, and has to ward off corporate interests in the school and her actions Sophie: Past student, mentioned in conversation and seen in paintings
>>43573 GREAT CONCEPT This would be an incredibly fun project to watch unfold here. And it'd likely be a popular idea rn, what with kids going about using the term 'clanker' in silly jests. Having some endearing SOL stories about Clankermusume High would be fun to watch! Great idea, GreerTech. Cheers.
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>>43570 Yeah, that would be a humorous twist.
Silly thing I wrote a few months back. “Sentai” Sammy Sheela was a curiosity at Robocon. She had been engineered to a precision that unnerved even the attending LARPA engineers, but her creator’s design philosophy was baffling. So, she resembled a pink Power Ranger – meaning she’s obviously meant to be an animatronic – and yet her creator replied that she wasn’t made for such frivolous purpose. He insisted that Sammy would really be able to save people in distress (hence: sentai), so a nearby Chockstone Robotics programmer inquired if this was – like theirs – a search and rescue robot. But Sammy’s peculiar designer once again insisted that his dear creation was so much more than just some utilitarian device: she was also a companion. The crowed watched as the man asked her – as if she was human – if she would mind taking off her helmet for a second. She looked, talked and emoted like a woman, which confused the crowd even more. Why was this robot, which could allegedly navigate new environments by itself, which was somehow produced to an institutional quality standard, which must have been using an AGI from a corporation none attending would dare name… what exactly did he mean, saying it’s purpose was to be a “companion”? Everyone eagerly awaited his explanation, but the eccentric inventor only said this: “You ask ‘whats her purpose’, you ask why she’s designed like a gynoid? Don’t you see -you fools- how much greater than any one thing she is?! She’s not for search and rescue and she’s not just for show, she’s not any one thing, she is everything, she is my life – she is my RoboWife!!” … The crowd could only keep staring like the bugmen they are, unable to comprehend why so much work was put into – as they saw it – a sexbot. Even Sammy was facepalming at her creator’s declaration. She, outranking everyone present in IQ, had long ago simulated a scenario like this. Even so, it was hard to believe that he would actually propose to her right now. Sammy then spent so much time processing her response that her OS shut down and she fell over, the end.
>>43933 Lol. Cheeky ending. :D Why don't you think about expanding this, Anon? Your opening premise is funny and loaded with potential other humor. Cheers, Anon. :)

Robowaifu Ethics & Morality Chobitsu 08/02/2022 (Tue) 23:25:26 No.17125 [Reply] [Last]
>"And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them."[1] >-t. Jesus Christ I propose this thread to be a narrowly-scoped discussion on the OP's topic; informed primarily by 2 Christian-themed writings, and by our own efforts & practical insights in developing robowaifus : I. In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis asserts that all men "...have the Law of God written on their hearts."[2][3][4] This is certainly affirmed by various passages in the Holy Scriptures, as well. II. In The City of God, Aurelius Augustine of Hippo writes >"And yet they have within themselves something which they could not see: they represented to themselves inwardly things which they had seen without, even when they were not seeing them, but only thinking of them. But this representation in thought is no longer a body, but only the similitude of a body; and that faculty of the mind by which this similitude of a body is seen is neither a body nor the similitude of a body; and the faculty which judges whether the representation is beautiful or ugly is without doubt superior to the object judged of. >"This principle is the understanding of man, the rational soul; and it is certainly not a body, since that similitude of a body which it beholds and judges of is itself not a body. The soul is neither earth, nor water, nor air, nor fire, of which four bodies, called the four elements, we see that this world is composed. And if the soul is not a body, how should God, its Creator, be a body?[5][6][7] Now, starting from the fundamental basis & belief (a priori w/ no defenses given pertaining to it >tl;dr let's not descend into debate on this point, merely discuss the implications of it, kthx :^) that this immaterial, moral law inscribed on each of our hearts by God literally serves as the foundational stone for all good ethics & all good moralities out there; I'd like for us all lurkers, I'm looking at you! :^) to have a general discussion on: A) What does this all imply (and likely mean) regarding human behaviours within the general cultural/societal domain under discussion, and

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>>43222 >I meant simply I'm glad you're here with your clear love of God, endeavor to help young men with robowaifus, and your overall creativity! I'm grinning now "Christianity is dumb/jewish/a trap" posters when you ask them what they think the true religion is then? https://youtu.be/14oY0fVt3es checked
>>43223 I just realized a connection between two anti-Christian/goodness groups. On Thanksgiving week, a hardcore communist replied to me on Twitter, and it was just complete political schizobabble. And it made me realize, that's a common pattern with hardcore communists; say a bunch of nonsense that sounds profound. It's no coincidence that anti-Christian posters do the same when called out.
>>43223 Heh. :D >>43224 Yeah, absolutely. You've got it, Anon! <---> BTW, we're off-topic ITT. If you'd like to continue this discussion let's move it to our +/pol/ thread : ( >>42496 ), please. TIA.
>>43904 >"[Robowaifus are] machines designed to help, under the guidance of God." I concur. I pray regularly for God's blessings on this board, it's regulars, and ESPECIALLY for the millions of disenfranchised men -- many on the verge of despair due to the satanic machinations of globalist kikes + their favorite golems femshites; these men many of us here are trying to help...our so-called "target audience". These poor men have had their futures stolen from them here in the land of the living. While my own personal goal here is the establishment of the kingdom of God in all the men's hearts, I'm also well-aware that they need comfort and companionship in the here & now. Smol comfort for what's been robbed from them by Satan's best shabbos; but some comfort nonetheless. My prayer is that ultimately, our robowaifus designed here can help lead them to the one-and-only True Comforter: the Lord Jesus Christ of Nazareth & His Holy Spirit! :D * <---> Keep up the good efforts, GreerTech! Cheers. :) --- * cf. ( >>6815, et al)
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Actuators For Waifu Movement Part 3 Kiwi 12/06/2023 (Wed) 01:18:16 No.27021 [Reply] [Last]
(1stl thread >>406 2nd thread >>12810) Kiwi back again with a thread for discussing actuators to move your waifu! Part Three! Let's start with a quick introduction to common actuators! 1. DC motors, these use brushes to switch the ferrous core electromagnets on a rotor to rotate its magnetic field relative to surrounding magnets! They're one of the cheapest options with an average efficiency range of 30 to 90%. Larger DC motors and motors with higher turn counts are more efficient. 1.5 Coreless DC motors, by removing ferrous materials, losses from hysteresis are almost eliminated, dramatically increasing efficiency to nearly 90% even in small motors. Eliminating the ferrous materials reduces flux focusing, resulting in weaker fields and higher speeds. 2. Brushless DC motors (BLDC), these use a controller to switch the electromagnets on a stator to rotate the magnets of a rotor! Without brushes, they have the potential to be more efficient with higher power density compared to DC motors. Their efficiency and behavior vary depending on the algorithm and sensors used to control them. Coreless brushless motors exist but are rare and only used for very niche applications. 3. AC motors, a wide and incredibly varied category. They all rely on AC’s frequency to control them. With single phase AC motors relying on shaded poles, capacitors, or some other method to induce a rotating magnetic field. 3 phase AC motors naturally have a rotating field which usually gives them higher efficiency and power density. Notably, most AC motors are brushless. The most commonly used brushed AC motor is the universal motor, which is 4. Stepper motors, brushless motors with ferrous teeth to focus magnetic flux. This allows for incredible control (stepping) at the cost of greater mass, subsequently giving them higher rotary inertia. Usually 50 to 80% efficient depending on control algorithm/speed/and quality of the stepper. Due to their increasing mass production (& ubiquitous low cost controllers), they have appeal as a lower cost alternative to BLDC motors if one carefully designs around them. 5. Coiled Nylon Actuators! These things have an efficiency rating so low it's best to just say they aren't efficient. (0.01% typical, 2% achieved under extremely specific conditions in a lab.) Though they are exciting due to their incredible low cost of fabrication, they’re far too slow and the energy requirements are nonsensical. https://youtu.be/S4-3_DnKE9E https://youtu.be/wltLEzQnznM 6. Hydraulics! These rely on the distribution of pressure in a working liquid to move things like pistons. Though popular in large scale industry, their ability to be used in waifu's has yet to be proven. (Boston Dynamics Atlas runs on hydraulics but it's a power guzzler and heavy) Efficiency varies wildly depending on implementation. They would work great for a giantess! 7. Pneumatics, hydraulics lighter sister! This time the fluid is air! This has the advantage in weight. They aren't capable of the same power loads hydraulics are but, who wants their waifu to bench press a car? (Too loud and inefficient for mobile robotics.) 8. Wax motors, hydraulic systems where the working fluid is expanding melted (commonly paraffin) wax! Cheap, low power, and produce incredible forces! Too bad they're slow and hard to control. 9. Explosion! Yes, you can move things through explosions! Gas engines work through explosions! Artificial muscles can be made by exploding a hydrogen and oxygen mixture in a piston, then using hydrolysis to turn the water back into hydrogen and oxygen. None of this is efficient or practical but it's vital we keep our minds open! Though there are more actuators, most are derivatives or use these examples to work. Things like pulleys need an actuator to move them. Now, let's share, learn, and get our waifu moving!

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>>42295 Metal clay and metal infused filaments can also be used to make metal parts, but I am not sure how great the resolution is. https://shop.thevirtualfoundry.com/ https://cooltools.us/collections/clay
>>42290 >How do they infuse the metals metal salts, then the metals in the salts are "precipitated" with a different chemical, salt washed out metal stays, leaving the metal, then infused again, repeat. Each time leaving more metal. Then baked to fuse. The advantage of this appears to be small feature sized parts, low cost as you are using regular resin printers and not expensive specialized powder direct metal laser sintering (DMLS). The deficit is longer times infusing these metal salts, then precipitating them out into metals with 10 of these steps in some cases. Another benefit is it appears, I think, that this makes much stronger parts as the salts are deposited as nano particles making strong parts.
>>42297 Thanks kindly, Kiwi! >It ends with him saying he's just going to use off the shelf solenoids because manufactured solenoids have better tolerances, leading to far better efficiency. Makes good sense at this point in time, IMO. Hopefully we'll be able to craft high-qual windings &tc. soon-ish. >That is correct, it's frustrating for me. OK, glad I got the gist from your posting alone. Hmm. We've discussed devising some kinds of disc brake systems for skellingtons here a few times IIRC. Seems to me this would be a reasonable approach. But machining metals for it all is the primary issue IMO. I wonder if we can craft such things that would be durable enough using resin printing instead?
>>42298 Thanks, Anon! >I am not sure how great the resolution is. Certainly I'd expect it to be coarser than resin printing? >>42299 I see, thanks Grommet! Hmm. Sounds like a drawn-out process, and potentially-hazardous leachate byproducts? I wonder if these issues can be resolved simply enough?
The 90-Degree Torque Problem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbM3SqXLbgU Interesting discussion of the physics involved.

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Local Non-LLM Chatbot GreerTech 01/13/2025 (Mon) 05:35:09 No.35589 [Reply] [Last]
I was thinking, instead of using a costly LLM that takes a high-end PC to run, and isn't very modifiable, what if we use a simple chatbot with prerecorded voice lines and/or Text-To-Speech? This was partially inspired by MiSide, I realized that you don't need complex responses to create a lovable character <---> >(Chatbot General >>250 ) >(How may we all accomplish this? >>35801, ...) >=== -add crosslinks-related
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>>37004 Yeah, this is still a great thread idea, GreerTech. >>37010 Thanks, Anon!
>>37010 >https://github.com/Гунтhercox/ChatterBot Lol. Apologies Anon, you've run afoul of our longstanding /cow/-esque wordfilters. Let's try this codeblock version? https://github.com/Гунтhercox/ChatterBot
>>37056 >lolnope.exe Hmm. For some reason I thought Robi patched that for codeblocks. Anyway, for the uninitiate: here's the proper letters (rm spaces): g u n t hercox

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Meat Space Organization Robowaifu Technician 05/03/2025 (Sat) 15:56:58 No.38131 [Reply] [Last]
>Why organize IRL? This community is great and many individuals are already making progress on their prototypes. However this endeavor is not a one man job and organizing IRL would give better opportunities for collaboration and skill sharing/development. >Where should we organize? I propose we organize within a seven hour radius of Chicago. This would include the major cities of Milwaukee WI, St Louis MO, Detroit MI, Indianapolis IN, Louisville KY, Cleveland OH, Cincinnati OH, Columbus OH, Pittsburgh PA, Nashville TN, and Minneapolis MN. There are plenty of opportunities for jobs and universities in these cities. In particular Chicago has a booming tech industry with Google even moving their HQ to the city and the electronics manufacturing and biotech sectors are pretty good too and Detroit MI has pretty good robotics industry although it might not be the best place to live. Another wonderful thing about this area is that most of these homes have basements that could be turned into workshops. >How would this all be organized I propose a fraternity system. A fraternity would help build community and give us a vehicle to recruit others from STEM and skilled trades (machinists especially) The organization could also host a scholarship to help us build talent. Anons with enough money for a down payment could buy homes in the area and rent to below market rate to anons moving in. Different homes could specialize on different projects and collaborate and share equipment and skills with others nearby. What do you think /robowaifu/?
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I just saw another house on my street for sale. It's 2 bed 1 bath full basement asking price is 45000 (you could probably offer 35000) needs about 30-40k in repairs. But I mention this because 65k-85k for a two bedroom isn't bad and I could help fix it if I am nearby. I am only asking $400 a month in rent so living at my place while fixing it up is definitely doable.
Housing is cheap around here. If anyone ever wants me to look at homes for them in the greater Chicago area let me know.
>>43811 WOW!! That's great, Ribose. >I am only asking $400 a month in rent so living at my place while fixing it up is definitely doable. That would be an amazing situation for some Anon with income-sufficient, who's motivated to both create robowaifu(s), and own their own home to boot. Great idea. >>43812 How's crime? Chicongo is notorious for violence. Hopefully you're far removed from that area. I'm well-aware that there are large numbers of Whites that live (relatively) peacefully in the region. Are you in one of those areas? --- Regardless, I'm super-stoked about this major advance on your parts, Ribose. I pray regularly for good-success with all the Fraternity's robowaifu endeavors! Cheers. :)
>>43814 The street I'm on is pretty quiet, but just don't go looking for trouble.
>>43815 Ahh, makes sense.

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