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Robowaifus in media Robowaifu Technician 09/10/2019 (Tue) 06:24:00 No.82 [Reply] [Last]
After reading anon's Robowaifu fiction bread, I wondered what media is out there that already predominately features a robowaifu(s) as an important character. Animu and mango are obvious choices (pic related), but surely there are live action movies as well.


post robowaifu movies, books, etc.
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>>17163 that was kind of scary though ngl
>>9632 >robo stories are often overly cucked and illogical Coming back to that discussion, when complaining to someone that the guys in all these stories are often too shy and not taking advantage of the situation, that someone recommended Overlord to me: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/overlord - It seems to feature AI's in female bodies which is just another form of saying fembots. Didn't watch it yet, but I will. The show got recommended to me several times for different reasons.
>>16187 I just watched "Azusa will help" and it's quite good. I wouldn't enjoy it if it was a tv show or generally much longer, and it's not a "must watch" imo, but it's entertaining and not boring. It's rather comedy than drama, but not silly. Also, it's once again a bit of a reminder that we don't want proprietary robowaifus which are hard to repair. I also like that the guys aren't really shy about her. I also watched "I Am Mother", which I can't write much about without spoiling it. The mother robot and female lead are pleasant to watch. The movie is generally well executed and captivating. >>7014 >Tenchi Muyo! Looked into the description. The fact the the women are the pursuers and the guy might be acting shy might bother me. But I might try it one day. >El Hazard >Watch the OVA not the TV series. The OVA seems to be the second season. >>16367 >Hi no Tori 2772 - Ai no CosmoZone Seem to be very hard to find as a download. The version on YouTube is in Spanish.
>>17166 mightve taken something away from the plot if the second he got Chii home he just stuck his dick in there though o_O (though I'm sure 95% of all college age men would've by day 3 at least)
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>>17208 Here's Hi no Tori 2772: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:942b670fca2dd824fd75e9a937ac9dacd88d5b6f

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Actuators For Waifu Movement Part 2 Waifu Boogaloo Kiwi 09/02/2021 (Thu) 05:30:48 No.12810 [Reply] [Last]
(Original thread >>406) Kiwi back from the dead with a thread for the discussion of actuators that move your waifu! Part Two! Let's start with a quick refresher! 1. DC motors, these use a rotating magnetic field created through commutation to rotate a rotor! They're one of the cheapest options and are 30 to 70 percent efficient usually. The bigger they are, the more efficient they tend to be. 2. Brushless motors, these use a controller to induce a rotating magnetic field by turning electromagnets on and off in a sequence. They trend 60 to 95 percent efficiency 3. AC motors, Though there are many different type, they function similarly to brushless motors, they simply rely on the AC electricity to turn their electromagnets on and off to generate their field. Anywhere from 15 to 95 percent efficiency. 4. Stepper motors, brushless motors with ferrous teeth to focus magnetic flux. This allows for incredible control at the cost of greater mass and lower torque at higher speeds. Usually 50 to 80 percent efficient but, this depends on control algorithm/speed/and quality of the stepper. 5. Coiled Nylon Actuators! These things have an efficiency rating so low it's best to just say they aren't efficient. What they are though is dirt cheap and easy as heck to make! Don't even think about them, I did and it was awful. 6. Hydraulics! These rely on the distribution of pressure in a working liquid to move things like pistons. Though popular in large scale industry, their ability to be used in waifu's has yet to be proven. (Boston Dynamics Atlas runs on hydraulics but, it's a power guzzler and heavy) 7. Pneumatics, hydraulics lighter sister! This time the fluid is air! This has the advantage in weight. They aren't capable of the same power loads hydraulics are but, who wants their waifu to bench press a car? 8. Wax motors, hydraulic systems where the working fluid is expanding melted parafin wax! Cheap, low power, efficient, and produce incredible torque! Too bad they're slow and hard to control. 9. Explosion! Yes, you can move things through explosions! Gas engines work through explosions! Artificial muscles can be made by exploding a hydrogen and oxygen mixture in a piston, then using hydrolysis to turn the water back into hydrogen and oxygen. None of this is efficient or practical but, it's vital we keep our minds open. Though there are more actuators, most are derivatives or use these examples to work. Things like pulleys need an actuator to move them. Now, let's share, learn, and get our waifu moving! >--- < add'l, related links from Anon:

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Related: >>17086 >Paradox Drive prototype >>17072 >Which BLDC for MaidCom?
I'm never sure if gears belong in this thread for actuators, but I think so. This video here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzJkD87eQNI made me understand why planetary gears are interesting for robowaifus. I thought most of us would go with cycloidal drives, and ignored the planetary gears. Maybe because I one read something negative about backdriveablity, idk. However, different gear ratios in one gear are of course very interesting. Still need to catch up on the "Paradox Drive", though.
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Drilled a hole in my 50$ 8318 and superglued in a magnet for the hall effect sensor. More progress to come on soldering to a moteus and printing the controller bracket before actuator is operational. If you guys put one of these in the hips, whoo boy, I can't remember the calculation result exactly but I think 80 amps or so and a 8318 bldc gives 4Nm torque without a gearbox. Going to assemble it and then test the torque with a cheap aluminum arduino force sensor.
>>17201 Thanks. Great to see some progress, I hope you succeed. I'm surprised you do this without a gearbox, and I'm curious about the results. (However, please try to size down your images, they don't loose detail while being 20% of that size, for Android 'Imagepipe' works quite well but it might be from F-Droid)
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>>17206 >pic related Not my best work, but the power is soldered together with 100 amp banana jacks. Once I re-print the bracket for the controller I will do a test to see if it works.

Waifu Materials Robowaifu Technician 09/12/2019 (Thu) 03:04:33 No.154 [Reply] [Last]
I would define a robowaifu as a doll with robotic features. However there are many different types of dolls (BJD, cloth doll, sex doll, etc). A doll has a skin or surface material, sometimes a filler (cotton), and sometimes internal structure (bones and joints).

Continuing the discussion from (((>>2831 >>2836 todo:relink))) , I want to create a thread to explore the many possible surface materials for a waifu (robo or no). The most important decision is whether to use a hard or soft material.

Hard Materials
>3D Printed Hard Plastic (PLA/ABS)
>Injection Molded Hard Plastic

Soft Materials
>Natural Fabrics (Cotton, Silk, Wool)
>Synthetic Fabrics (Vinyl, Polyester, Nylon)
>Fur/Hair (presumably synthetic, inb4 yiff in hell)
>Silicone or TPE Rubber (TPE is basically a cheaper form of silicone)

I'm strongly biased against the hard materials for comfort reasons. Personally, I have a hard time seeing myself falling in love with something hard, but others on this board talk about using hard materials, so I'm trying to keep an open mind.

My preference is for silicone, but there are four big problems with it. Firstly, it's expensive. Secondly, it impedes modification after the silicone has set. Thirdly, it contributes to the uncanny valley/silicone slut issue. Fourthly, it is heavy, and this weight really constrains the skeleton, posablity, and probably robotics. Because of the weight, silicone dolls have heavy-duty skeletons.

My second choice is therefore fabric, presumably stuffed with cotton. Fabric is super comfy, and has no uncanny valley issue. A non-fuggable fabric doll or robot would have no stigma issue, and could be the start of a productive hobbyist scene with plenty of females. Fabric is extremely lightweight which could be a plus or a minus. By itself, its unsubstantial and not ideal for robotics. A fabric robot is possible, but it requires hard, heavy parts underneath to provide structure and as actuators, which would make it less comfy. The fabric could be a textile (cotton), a synthetic leather (resembles skin, makeup/dress-up potential), or synthetic fur for you furfags out there.

Another possibility is a hard vinyl BJD-like doll with a layer of something comfy on top. Alternately, you all can reject my comfort autism if the benefits of having a hard doll/robot are clear enough. I'd like to hear others make the case for a hard doll/robot, since I don't think I could do the argument justice.

Finally, this is a discussion, not a debate. There are multiple paths we could take, and I'm sure different robowaifuists will try different techniques to see what works and what doesn't. I'm more interested in seeing what options are on the table than shutting down any particular approach.
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>>16916 One thing to add to this: casting the deadened internal silicone first and the outside skin around it within an external mold with no silicone deadener should leave the surface not tacky while the inside is flesh-like. The way I'd do this is by sucking up the material from the bottom with a tube in the top and bottom of the mold, with the bottom containing silicone in a syringe and the top connected to a vacuum. It would need a buffer chamber for bubbles to expand.
>https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jmrt.2020.11.021 Going to try this recipe for silicone sensors. If it works, then making a sensitive silicone part is as simple as mixing in some graphite and carbon powder to the same silicone used everywhere else, but attaching electrodes to the end of the shape. The possibilities are endless.
>>17202 I linked this in two other threads about skin and general engineering, since it's more about sensors than the materials. I'm sure such powders are available on AliExpress and other places. I want to mention the materials here, if someone wants to keep an eye out for them: >oft and stretchable conductive polymer composites (CPC) ... >Diverse fillers have been employed to accomplish CPC such as carbon nanotubes [7,8], graphene [9,10], graphite (GRP) [11,12], carbon black (CB) [13,14], silver [15,16] and gold [17,18]. Among the various fillers, GRP has shown to be a promising candidate over other fillers due to its good electrical conductivity [19], good thermal conductivity [20], biocompatibility [21,22], low percolation threshold owing their high aspect ratio [23], high compressive strength [24], along with their natural abundance [25,26] and low price [27].
>>17205 Thanks, bro.
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>>17205 I got mine from Amazon for their (sometimes as advertised) fast shipping. If time was not of the essence I'd get it through ebay or aliexpress. The EF20 will not be used (per paper EF30), but I included it in the picture. I'd also like to mention that you may need EF silicone thinner to have everything mix into part A and have all the powder break up nicely. This cost about 150$.

R&D General Robowaifu Technician 09/10/2019 (Tue) 06:58:26 No.83 [Reply] [Last]
This is a thread to discuss smaller waifu building problems, solutions, proposals and questions that don't warrant a thread. Keep it technical. I'll start.

Liquid battery and cooling in one
Having a single "artificial blood" system for liquid cooling and power storage would eliminate the need for a vulnerable solid state battery, eliminate the need for a separate cooling system, and solve the problem of extending those systems to extremities.
I have heard of flow batteries, you'd just need to use a pair of liquids that's safe enough and not too sensitive to changes in temperature.
This one looks like it fits the bill. The downside is that your waifu would essentially be running on herbicide. (though from what I gather, it's in soluble salt form and thus less dangerous than the usual variety)

How close are we to creating artificial muscles? And what's the second best option?
Muscles are perfect at what they do; they're powerful, compact, efficient, they carry their own weight, they aren't dependent on remote parts of the system, they can be controlled precisely, and they can perform many roles depending on their layout alone.
We could grow actual organic muscles for this purpose already but that's just fucking gross, and you'd need a lot of extra bloat to maintain them.
What we need are strands of whatever that can contract using electrical energy. Piezo does the trick at small scales, but would it be enough to match the real thing? There have been attempts, but nothing concrete so far.
What are some examples of technology that one could currently use instead?

High level and low level intelligence emulation
I've noticed a pattern in programs that emulate other computing hardware.
The first emulators that do the job at acceptable speeds are always the ones that use hacks and shortcuts to get the job done.
It comes down to a tradeoff. Analyzing and recompiling or reinterpreting the code itself on a more abstract level will introduce errors, but it is a magnitude of order more efficient than simulating every part of the circuitry down to each cycle. This is why a relatively high level emulator of a 6th gen video game console has close system requirements to a cycle-accurate emulator of the SNES.
Now, I want to present an analogy here. If training neural networks for every damn thing and trying to blindly replicate an organic system is akin to accurately emulating every logic gate in a circuit, what are some shortcuts we could take?
It is commonly repeated that a human brain has immense computing power, but this assumption is based just on the amount of neurons observed, and it's likely that most of them probably have nothing to do with intelligence or consciousness. If we trim those, the estimated computing power would drop to a more reasonable level. In addition, our computers just aren't built for doing things like neural systems do. They're better at some things, and worse at others. If we can do something in a digital way instead of trying to simulate an analog circuit doing the same thing, that's more computing power that we could save, possibly bridging the gap way earlier than we expected to.
The most obvious way to handle this would be doing as many mundane processing and hardware control tasks as possible in an optimized, digital way, and then using a GPU or another kind of circuit altogether to handle the magical "frontal lobe" part, so to speak.
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What if ran cooling fluids through big elf/fox/cat ears or structures that looked like wings? We could use a lot of surface area without compromising her appearance. Maybe wing like structures could be used to help with balance too or a tail.
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>>16766 Wings with wheels would serve many functions admirably. They'd provide a large surface area that's often exposed to moving air as you mentioned. The balancing aspect would allow for her to be a quadruped while maintaining the aesthetics of a biped. I also have a thing for wings
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>>16767 Her wings could be folded to look like a dress while they provide balancing points of contact.
>>16767 You don't need to make her a quadruped to get better balance. The point of the "wings" would be to spread mass away from the pivot point thus increasing her moment of inertia. It's just like when you spread your arms out to help you balance.
Multifunctional flexible and stretchable graphite-silicone rubber composites: >>17202

Robowaifu fiction to promote the product and expand the market Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 07:17:19 No.29 [Reply] [Last]
>order companionbot from obscure japanese website
>you're not a pedo, but size is a major factor in the practicality of these designs, so the loli-robot is by far the cheapest and most reliable option
>you open the box and find your companion, purposely designed to look like a cartoon robot, rather than a real person
>still, the robot's purpose is obvious when you realize it is nude and has genitals
>since it is a lolibot, you, a 32 year old wizard NEET, can't exactly go to the store and buy clothes that fit it. So you'd better do an extra good job at hiding it from any guests that come over.
>lol you never have any guests. Guess some problems solve themselves.
>before turning the robot on, you have to setup the software options on your computer. You adjust a series of sliders regarding personality traits, before selecting the English option, and choosing your preferred voice from a list.
>then you agonize for hours over picking a name
>other, more expensive models, are wi-fi compatible, but you purposely chose the cheapest option with no wireless connectivity, not just because you're cheap, because you don't want people spying on your waifu
>you save the settings to a flash drive which is inserted in the robot's navel, after removing a waterproof cover, of course. But this is when you realize you don't actually know how to turn the robot on
>after rifling through the manual you find the on/off procedure, which involves bending the fingers into a certain configuration before pressing in the port on the robot's navel with one hand and pinching the buttons that are the robot's g-spot and clitoris with the other.
>the robot immediately comes to life, opening its eyes and looking directly at you, in a rather compromising position
>Your sudden reaction of shock abides when you remind yourself that it's simply a robot.
>But the awkwardness comes back when the robot speaks, in very broken Engrish
>still, you can understand as it introduces itself with the name you've given it, the voice you chose for it.
>you know that you chose those options, but when the robot asks you for your name, you still answer just as awkwardly as when a real girl would ask you your name at the bank or whatever
>actually, more awkwardly because your fingers are inside it. So you freeze up, as you do even in simpler situations
>but the robot is programmed for your happiness, and detects your stress, smiling at you in an attempt to make you feel better. But only briefly, because you programmed it with just the mildest hint of tsundere
>it tells you to not feel stressed, and assures you that it is not being damaged by your touch
>you remove yourself from the robot's vagina, and notice a brief, subtle shudder. Nice attention to detail from the creators
>You stand up in front of the robot and watch it as it looks around the room, studying its surroundings. It moves in an unnaturally smooth motion, but manages to not be too uncanny due to looking like a robot, rather than a human.
>as the robot's eyes scan the room, you notice that they stop for just a tiny but longer than usual as they look straight ahead. Straight ahead at your boner, which happens to be right at the small robot's face level.
>once again your mind forgets that you are dealing with a machine, and you awkwardly try to create small talk to diffuse the situation, asking the robot if it requires anything else at the moment. It declines, and instead asks if there is anything you desire
>you, the autist you are, refuse to let the robot do anything for you, and instead say that you are going to go and make a sandwich.
>you tell the robot to make itself comfortable, then cringe to yourself when you realize the absurdity of that statement.

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>>16816 He opened the fridge, counted out 20 pizza rolls, and put them in the microwave. He'd done quite a bit of heavy lifting today. It was April and still cool outside, but a hundred kilos of android had been difficult to move. Not much could be done about the mess made with her packaging, so he moved it to the garage. As he did, Kirsch trained her eyes on the package. Since the scan was done, an object she'd scanned was getting moved. She would have to update its location. She didn't follow it out to the garage, but she would surely know it was there. The microwave beeped, to let him know his food has been cooked to subpar perfection. He grabbed his plate and sat at his computer desk to eat the "too hot to be in your mouth but cold enough to still hold" pizza rolls. Thomas began to read over some of the manuals and tutorials online while eating. What the bot could and could not do. When not to bring her outside. Where she did and did not have permission to go inside government buildings. In what countries outside of the United States androids were banned on aircraft. Those kinds of things. He finished his fine dining and placed his plate in the sink adding to an already awful-smelling pile that had been sitting there since Sunday. >"Hey, uh... Kirsch. I'm going to take a shower okay." <"Do you need any assistance?"> >"Oh, no-no. Every-everything will be fine. I'm fine." He backed away nervously to the master bedroom which wasn't far from the kitchen. He closed and reflexively locked the door, paused for a short moment, and then unlocked it. "She's just programmed that way." he whispered to himself. Shaking his head with bewilderment.
>>16824 He grabbed his clothes from his closet. He normally wore business casual attire. Khaki or blue dress pants. A literal blue-collar button-down shirt, black belt. This was the majority of his wardrobe, except for some anime, comic, and video game themed black tee-shirts. He didn't have an excuse to wear them as often as he'd like to. Wearing them on his days off alone at home would just get them stained. Thomas grabbed a washcloth and towel from the bathroom closet. Both the master bathroom and master bedroom were quite large. The master bath, which was inside the master bedroom was larger than the main bathroom of the house in the hallway. His bathroom had a combination shower and tub. The tub was a large diamond-shaped garden time easily large enough for two people. It was installed in the far corner of the room with a curtain installed around the ceiling. It was awkward to get in and out of, but undeniably spacious. On the side of the room was a large vanity mirror his mom had installed. It was lit will with a squared-off bar light around the mirror, with a strip of LEDs inside of a defuse material. A flat and clean lighting fixture, like an emissive render material. It was blinding hot light, pure white; almost nearly blue. Thomas approached the mirror with his head down before looking into it. Sandy hair, a thin mustache, and his poorly cultured triangular goatee. He thought his appearance was like that of a knock-off cartoon villain, or maybe the face of someone you expected to own a lawn care service. A robot doesn't care what you look like. Kirsch doesn't even have the technical capability to judge him about his appearance, right? The man undressed and stepped into the hot shower, standing alone for the first time since the afternoon, in the falling water; a place he could clearly think. He grabbed the green bar of soap to lather his washcloth.
>>16825 It was up to this point he hadn't considered that this is the first time she would be left alone in the house. He had no idea what she was doing or getting into. Could she be moving things around? Maybe she opened the bedroom door and would standing right in front of the locked bathroom door when he opened it. He mentally prepared himself for that possibility. He washed, shampooed, and conditioned his hair. Thomas planned to stand in the shower for a little while as he has always done. After a minute of standing there motionless, water running, trying to clear his mind of the curiosity; it had gotten the better of him. Thomas turned off the water and all was quiet, with only drips of water to the porcelain surface below. He stepped out as awkwardly as he'd gotten in and began to towel himself try. He had always walked into his room nude, as he lived alone. In fact, he seldom closed the bathroom door because he never had to. Now it was different. With the towel wrapped around his waist, unlocked the bathroom door. Expecting a face to be behind the door he opened the door slowly inward. There was nothing there. Holding the towel he peered around the room, but nothing was there either. He shrugged gesturing toward the door in a motion no one else but him would ever see and shook his head with anxiety. It's probably the fastest he'd gotten dressed since the city banged on his door about a weed violation a month ago. Only after buckling his black belt and practically throwing open the master bedroom door into the house's openness; did he see the android. Motionless, standing exactly where she had been before. She had not moved even an inch. Kirsch was staring at the door with an expectant smile of assurance to service. Nothing was going to happen while he was in the bathroom; while he was gone. She had gotten no order from her administrator, no command to follow. Thomas sighed and walked out to approach her. Kirsch gave an inquisitive stare as if waiting for him to speak, and he was going to.

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>>12208 > I've also always held the belief that the west's christian foundation "only humans have souls, ... was the difference in each culture's attitude toward robots and AI - The (((Golem story))) - The general leftist and "liberal" sentiment that we can't have human-like creatures which are dependent or subservient to us - Economic and political interests against men being less dependent on women, which is a cause for competition, hard work and general motivation, but also women's spending habits are important for consumption. - Many people really are so simple minded that they're influenced in real life by the stories they know and once established it's recycled again and again. If some trope works well in entertainment for a broad audience, then over time it becomes part of how people think in general. Which is probably the most horrendous flaw in the human mind.
>>17193 Butlerian Jihadists can go kindly autofellate themselves

Visual Waifus Robowaifu Technician 09/15/2019 (Sun) 06:40:42 No.240 [Reply] [Last]
Thoughts on waifus which remain 2D but have their own dedicated hardware. This is more on the artistry side though ai is still involved. An example of an actual waifu product being the Gatebox.

My favorite example is Ritsu, she's a cute ai from assassination classroom who's body is a giant screen on wheels.
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>>17180 Still working on my 3D modelling since I started with M-66 >>11776 I made a hell of a lot of topology and workflow errors when I first started out, so I decided to find and follow some proper tutorials. Thanks to the series by CG Cookie - focusing on anatomically-correct edge modelling in Blender - I managed to make my first head that isn't just ripped from a game. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oa9ZRyBFcCg (Be warned though, this is extremely time-consuming work! The proper edge modelling starts from video 2 onwards). It looks horrendous. But people do when they have no hair or eyebrows! Although this is realistic, I prefer modelling stylised cartoon or anime characters because they are simpler and cuter. When modelling from life, not only is it really hard to accurately represent the underlying muscles, it is sooooo easy to drop into the Uncanny Valley because certain features of your topology will always be a little off. Nothing is going to be 100% correct (even professional models that use photogrammetry and mocap can look 'off'). Even if the topology is 99.99% correct, small errors with environment lighting and animation can creep in (I am thinking particularly of how they 'de-aged' Jeff Bridges for the 2010 movie Tron: Legacy).
>>17183 On the subject of de-aging, turns out deepfake programs are the best way to go! Makes sense if you can get ahold of enough footage. This side-by-side comparison video illustrates what I was just saying about many small errors accumulating to drag a character into the Uncanny Valley: https://youtu.be/vW6PKX5KD-U
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>>17183 >>17184 Thanks, very fascinating and informative. I don't think your first pic looks horrible, but if it's a lot of work while even not finished, then maybe it's not the right way. Not sure what your goal is, though, beyond learning. Modelling head for robowaifus or making an animated girlfriend. It's good that you tried out the hard stuff, but it seems it would be easier to go with a simpler model. Tbh, I think for a animated girlfriend a 2D anime style (low-poly?) might be sufficient. Your difficulties also explain why there aren't that many 3D heads freely available. I considered a while ago to use a service like Fivrr to get some female head modeled. This seems to be done in poor countries (by children, maybe). I hope you know, just in case if you planned to make a job out of it. If you want to build some kind of program or produce a short movie, then maybe only work on the sketch and then source the rest of the work out to Pakistan.
>>17185 > Not sure what your goal is, though, beyond learning. > Just in case if you planned to make a job out of it. Yeah, I just wanted to learn so it's easier for me to make 3D models and art. Just for personal enjoyment. Because making digital art of robot waifus is much cheaper and easier than making actual physical robot waifus! Plus there are no constraints and you can make whatever the hell you want! If you get really good at it, you can put completed, rigged models up for sale on various websites, but this would be a small side-hustle at best. Nobody actually needs 3D art. Especially not as Clown-World continues down it's spiral of self-destruction
>>17191 Okay, but you could try to make simpler animations which can be used for a "chatbot" or virtual robowaifu. Also, for telling animated stories, which would still be interesting to people and a competition to the established media. That's just what I would be doing if I would be going for 3D art, and I might one day when my robowaifu is finished.

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Thot in the Shell 1 Robowaifu Technician 04/10/2021 (Sat) 06:58:56 No.9709 [Reply]
TITS Robowaifus The basic idea is that IRL females will be plugged into remote-operation consoles; from there they will have some teleoperational control of robowaifus during engagements. The basic point being human contact for Anon. Obviously, this situation is fraught with both possibilities and hazards. As a board, we had a somewhat extensive discussion and debate on the topic in our first-ever /robowaifu/ council over in the /meta-3 thread (>>9712). As the BO, I had to come to some type of decision on the matter in the end, and here it is: (>>10194). While we didn't actually manage a consensus, my decision was to go ahead and proceed with developing the concept more fully here on /robowaifu/. Therefore, the TITS Robowaifus thread #1 is now open for business -- with two fundamental caveats. 1. Absolutely no free-form, 'open-mic', unconstrained, verbal or physical control by TITS thots of any TITS Robowaifus themselves. The most problematic issues with the whole idea all stem directly from failing to enforce this basic rule. Also, the intricacies of pulling off implementing these restraints correctly, and still allowing for an appealing, effective, and fun engagement for the Anon himself is actually quite a dramatic challenge & achievement. Solving all this will advance many different robowaifu-related areas all together at once. 2. Men will be free to turn off 'safetys' if they desire to plug their IRL GFs into the remote-end of a TITS connection. They are taking their own lives in their hands with such a risk, and they will be clearly informed of that. Note that this is a privately-conducted connection between Anon and his GFs, and isn't in any way associated with any business-oriented systems utilizing professional prostitutes (whether they are labeled as such or not). Basic safetys are not to be disabled in that context whatsoever. Because we are cutting new trails here on robowaifu frontiers (yet again), it's unclear to me yet whether these 'rules' will be sufficient. They probably will receive (potentially extensive) revisions as we move forward. After all, this entire premise represents a significant increase in the complexity of the many issues involving robowaifus already, and puts several new items onto that table as well. Note: please keep all TITS Robowaifus discussions contained to just the TITS threads themselves. >---

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>>9709 there is already a movie about a future society like this, its actually a great reference movie, also based on a comic >game experience may change in online player vs player i kinda actually like the idea but that said you shoud have bot offline and online options you'll probably end up paying like a prostitute for a better experience pros and amateurs will change a lot probably subcriptions to servers with player choice on bot ends, so you could win money being male probably many fags pretending to be girls, some actually making a better job also lesbians with strapons free servers online as bat-crazy and risky as gaming online, or full of weird fetish subservers there are already pay to playgames with girls online, and shit like onlyfans so the industry will bloom, if the metadata is stored and given to IAs it could improve to get the best experiences and a shitload of profiles in a coulple of years making online almost obsolete, but people will keep conecting for the "human" experience factor, just like campaing drived games or multiplayer exclusive games the future will be great
>>17176 >there is already a movie about a future society like this, its actually a great reference movie No it absolutely isn't. (I'm OP). Also, the movie is boring. > so you could win money being male probably many fags pretending to be girls No thanks, and this isn't what this whole idea is about. It was explicitly NOT about giving anyone the control over the whole body or playing a role. The idea was about letting the AI do as much as possible and in some cases ask humans to decide or to put in textual responses, but only constraint to certain limits, and also using an abstraction layer so there would be as less personality as possible going into the TITS robowaifu. Also, very likely, the human decisions would be more about complex (social) situations and conversations, not during the bot getting used for intercourse in some regular fashion. The human input would only be about the things the AI hasn't learned yet, or where it can't decide fast or well enough. Having that said, Sandman MGTOW had the idea of using the availability of such employment options to work around a possible initial resistance against synthetic girlfriends or sexbots. If some women would hope for a job or work around something like it, then it would be harder to be opposed to it. There would be more division among them and they also could still believe that we're going to need them forever and ever. >some actually making a better job also lesbians with strapons We don't do male bots here. It's completely OT, we don't want to read about it or discuss it. Not our department. Sexbots is in a way already a stretch, any remote input on top of it is very controversial. >but people will keep conecting for the "human" experience factor I don't need that, especially not with women through social media, and I don't understand people who do. Anyways, AI will make this whole thing obsolete, I hope. I don't believe in the need for "human connection" between men and women, especially online with some entitled feminist thots.
>>17177 dude your're gonna get disapointed day one when it gets to the users, just like many inventors it's like yourr're planing to make the iphone to improve human life and bringh mankind a new age of wonder, and look it now it's an idiotobox 95% of the time
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>>17181 If me or someone else would create such a TITS copilot, then people could still use robowaifu bodies for their own schemes. True, but I don't care. Not my responsibility, not my problem. I think AI or TITS would be better than using it with remote control by some human, so it wouldn't make much sense to use it in any other than the recommended way. Except maybe for couples. In regards to humanoid robowaifu bodies in general, I care even less about anyone using them in a different way then I would. I'm working on this project primarily for myself, then in a wider sense for men which want the same option. If others use it for something else, then I don't care. I'm not into moral policing and I don't see any relevant social harm compared to where we are now. The positive benefits, at least for me and others like me, are way more relevant, than anything people could do which I wouldn't.

AI Design principles and philosophy Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 06:44:15 No.27 [Reply] [Last]
My understanding of AI is somewhat limited, but personally I find the software end of things far more interesting than the hardware side. To me a robot that cannot realistically react or hold a conversation is little better than a realdoll or a dakimakura.

As such, this is a thread for understanding the basics of creating an AI that can communicate and react like a human. Some examples I can think of are:

ELIZA was one of the first chatbots, and was programmed to respond to specific cues with specific responses. For example, she would respond to "Hello" with "How are you". Although this is one of the most basic and intuitive ways to program a chat AI, it is limited in that every possible cue must have a response pre-programmed in. Besides being time-consuming, this makes the AI inflexible and unadaptive.

The invention of Cleverbot began with the novel idea to create a chatbot using the responses of human users. Cleverbot is able to learn cues and responses from the people who use it. While this makes Cleverbot a bit more intelligent than ELIZA, Cleverbot still has very stilted responses and is not able to hold a sensible conversation.

Taybot is the best chatbot I have ever seen and shows a remarkable degree of intelligence, being able to both learn from her users and respond in a meaningful manner. Taybot may even be able to understand the underlying principles of langauge and sentence construction, rather than simply responding to phrases in a rote fashion. Unfortunately, I am not sure how exactly Taybot was programmed or what principles she uses, and it was surely very time-intensive.

Which of these AI formats is most appealing? Which is most realistic for us to develop? Are there any other types you can think of? Please share these and any other AI discussion in this thread!
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Bayesianism : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hHA-oqpNig >The philosopher Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz had a dream. He hoped that progress in philosophy and mathematics would eventually yield a method to systematically figure out the truth. This video explores an approach to that dream that takes us some of the way there: Bayesianism. The basic idea of Bayesianism is to represent beliefs as probabilities and update them using the formal rules of probability theory to the best of our ability. In particular, Bayes' rule tells us how to update our degree of belief in a hypothesis after observing some evidence. Bayes' rule can inform many central tenets of scientific reasoning. One example is Cromwell's rule, which tells us with the language of probability theory that our empirical beliefs shouldn't be absolute dogmas, but always potentially put into question when new evidence comes in. Please keep elaborate speculation on the human mind and philosophy around AI in this (containment) thread: >>11102 From the description of the video: > @3Blue1Brown 's explanations: > 1. https://youtu.be/HZGCoVF3YvM > 2. https://youtu.be/U_85TaXbeIo > 3. https://youtu.be/lG4VkPoG3ko > 4. https://youtu.be/ZA4JkHKZM50 > 5. https://youtu.be/8idr1WZ1A7Q > @Julia Galef's explanation of bayesian thinking: https://youtu.be/BrK7X_XlGB8 >Two beautiful books containing many essays on bayesian thinking and truth-seeking: Books ( Amazon links in the description to the original video): > 1. Map and Territory, by Eliezer Yudkowsky > Playlist audio book (not tested yet): https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsrfJq_DJi4vJ7-VBeR9xVW_6blBrVzET

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>>17140 Coming from the read-only mode just to write this: Yudkowsky is a sociopathic cultist, and lesswrong is a type of poison for the autistic mind. One time you read about Bayesian inference, then about ai risk, and in the end you buy a maid costume and donate to miri (which, by their own words, failed). We don't need this here. Even accelerationism is better than that.
>>17161 I don't know how you mean that. We shouldn't just ignore something useful because the person writing about it is doing weird stuff.
>>17161 >Yudkowsky >Eliezer (((Shlomo))) Yudkowsky .. an American decision and artificial intelligence theorist and writer, best known for popularizing the idea of friendly artificial intelligence. He is a co-founder and research fellow at the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, a private research nonprofit based in Berkeley, California. Wikipedia Born: September 11, 1979 (age 42 years), Chicago, IL Spouse: Brienne Yudkowsky (m. 2013) >Blog: LessWrong I see
>>17161 >>17164 I haven't read the books I mentioned above. I'm generally very skeptical about the whole "AI will eat the world"-bunch, but I still read and listen to their arguments from time to time. Even more so, if one of them gives me a good introduction into a useful topic, I might still take it. Same goes for Jews in influential positions. Learning from people you disagree with or even see as opponents or enemies, can be very useful or even necessary to beat them.

Robot skeletons and armatures Robowaifu Technician 09/13/2019 (Fri) 11:26:51 No.200 [Reply] [Last]
What are the best designs and materials for creating a skeleton/framework for a mobile, life-sized gynoid robot?
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>>15191 I'm sure there are literally thousands of examples of silicone casting over armatures in the Dark Rides (theme parks) industry. And for the Creature EFX sub-industry in cinema, the results can be pretty remarkable. But for our DIY garage-factory Robowaifu prototyping, I'm fairly sure that silicone's density pretty much precludes most other industries' usage of it. For example, solid-casting a thigh would basically weigh about the same as the same volume of a real human's. Much too heavy tbh. The Medical Prosthetics industry may inform our approaches with the material however. For example, the notion of using a thin-ish sheet (or film) of medical-grade silicone over a sub exo-shell/structural mechatronics could be a very suitable approach for us all. Good luck with your prototyping efforts Anon. Please keep us up to date!
>>15194 Interesting. I will look into making negatives of my molds so that the silicone can go over a shell.
>>15215 Sounds great! You might consider an initial rough prototype using wooden dowels like MeidoDev (>>11446), or Kiwi (>>15214). Over that you might fashion some of that flexible craft EVA foam that's popular as a base for cosplay & accessories at conventions like the various 'Cons, etc. (>>6506) and fasten it over your wooden framework. This outer shell would become the basis of a form for a negative mold, right? Create her 'skin' using your hi-grade silicone, color it, decorate it, etc. and Bob's your uncle! :^) Looking forward to seeing your progress Anon.
>>8062 dude should 3d scan these and make it a STL file for the glory of mankind
>>8062 >>17149 I had memory holed this boner inducing monstrosity thanks for bringing it back to burn into my retinas anew

Important things about building living robots Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 05:38:28 No.19 [Reply]
Robots in our price range would have to be made of cheap, but sturdy materials.

3D printed nylon is a good material, as it is sturdy, doesn't shatter like PLA, and is tolerant of many temperatures. Aluminum pieces like those in a VEX set are good for things like the thoracic vertebrae, or the femurs.

AI is also not born perfect. It is created like a child. You must raise it to be social. To accommodate this, an infant model must be built for the robot to learn basic social skills, movement, etc. Even MLAATR itself has shown this, though I imagine a head on a small body with simple legs or wheels would suffice. You could simply remove the head and place it onto the older body as a birthday gift for it.

I also have to point out something that might disappoint, do not read this spoiler if your dreams of a robot wife are delicate. You cannot fuck your robowaifu unless it's an already-existing girl's consciousness stuck into the robot. Making your own waifu's mind is like father and child incest.
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I wouldn't be worried about incest for several reasons: 1. incest is not bad if both parties want it and you're not producing offspring 2. it's not really incest because my robowaifu is not genetically related to me, would be based on a fictional character created by someone else, and I probably wouldn't be creating her from scratch but with the help of other specialists. It'd maybe be at most like a teacher fucking their student. 3. who cares anyway lol
>>17102 it may be such a process activates pathways in our brain that should signal revulsion (for those biological reasons) - however we are more than our instincts, so at worst this would be a matter of dubious taste, if one wanted so badly to clutch at pearls however NPCs are born pearl clutchers when it comes to segments of the population they want to marginalize for nonconformity, so it is a consideration at least as far as appearances go
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another point, as I've stated before really boils down to branding robotic companion is inoffensive as it gets anything sex or tinged with desperation or "misogyny" will get piled upon and a crusade waged against The group, I forget and could care less about their name, who is already beating the war drums against "Sex Bots" is mostly fueled by the idea that there will be pedos or people enacting rape / abuse fantasies. We really need to steer the discourse off this track because for one robots cannot be "children" and secondly anyone who is psychologically damaged enough would honestly probably benefit from a waifubot's unconditional love and attention and this point is grossly overlooked
>>17106 Be concerned if you want to be concerned. The problem will be handled with keeping it open source and the resources decentralized. We don't have to make any concessions to bullies and extremists. Twitter is not the reality, and the crazy people there have no power outside of it, except it is given to them by making concessions. This is exactly what all these woke corporations did and why we have all these tainted franchises now, among other things.
>>17105 >NPCs are born pearl clutchers when it comes to segments of the population they want to marginalize for nonconformity, True words Anon. >>17107 >Twitter is not the reality, and the crazy people there have no power outside of it, except it is given to them by making concessions. Also true words, Anon.

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