>>42747 Well our typical 3D morphtargets for hero digital double work ran around 120 different models (many were 50/50 splits, mirrored L & R). * I don't know if you consider that a smol number of, but I can tell you it takes weeks for a smol professional team to sculpt & tweak them all during pre-production for a single hi-fi 3D mesh! :^) --- * And this is just for facial -- not including anything from the lower neck down at all!

>>42748 I assume those are actual faces, right? For a Murder Drones/LAV/Astrobot/Kerfus/Galatea style face, you probably don't 120 or a professional team.

>>42749 >I assume those are actual faces, right? Yes. Big actors would go into a scan volume and have high-fidelity (hi-fi) mesh captures made of their faces. We'd take those and meticulously redo them as animatable (ie, well-formed) 3D quad meshes; then use those to do the actual "acting" (ie, 3D animations, typically using the sculpted morphtargets as mentioned). In many cases this "acting" is driven by real acting done in MOCAP volumes, then applied (or retargeted) onto the hero facial mesh. A control rig of some sort also drives the underlying mesh so that directoral/artistic control is available during production. Usually a lo('r)-fi, "blocking" mesh is used during production animation, then rendered with hi-fi for sampling and during post (-production/final). The same processes mostly apply for the rest of the body, but usually without nearly the attention to detail that facial demands. >For a Murder Drones/LAV/Astrobot/Kerfus/Galatea style face, you probably don't 120 or a professional team. No ofc not. For screen faces, such lo-fi work is fine. But for realworld, IRL robowaifus? Heh, let's just say "...it's complicated." :^)

>>42746 >As far as "real time" goes, remember this is a big-budget film: every.single.frame. is carefully-crafted by teams. In this case the work of professional animators during pre-production/production phases. So the >tl;dr in the specific case of M3gan 2, this is not realtime. I assumed as much for the movie, but I was talking about the actual toy, which surprisingly, seems to have about as much facial expression range. >>42747 >There's only a select amount of reasonable expressions you can make, I think a library is enough. When I think of animating facial expressions my mind goes to the Source engine's Faceposer, where the face mesh flexes to create as many facial expressions as any real face could make, but something like that would probably need to be simplified to run on a toy. The only other thing I think of is early 3D game graphics where there's textures for an eye and half of the mouth, and the most appropriate expression is picked by making the right combination of textures. But the Moxie face seemed better than that.

>>42751 >but I was talking about the actual toy, which surprisingly, seems to have about as much facial expression range. Ahh, understood. Yes (just like with a movie) you'd create a "library" of expressions (as I and @GreerTech indicated), then using some form of scripting (in the case of the toy), morph between them. We'd have to have the original programming from inside it to know precisely how it was done in that specific case, but this model is the general approach. As you suggested, the Moxie expressions are likely "baked out" beforehand into individual images and morphed between them with scripting (as with @Mechnomancer's & @GreerTech's approaches). Typical 2D stuff; and very low-cost, computationally. Great questions, Anon. Sounds like you're already well on your way... why not dive into the animatronics/programming aspects of IRL robowaifu faces (similar to @Mechnomancer's newer approaches)? :^)

>>41771 didn't see the new thread lol

>>41772 I guess FNAF counts if you include toy chica https://youtu.be/P1O9OEf6PaY?si=nras07TXqRgifvKe

>>41777 i was thinking of security breach actually, also checked

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Umamusume has a mind upload robowaifu, Sugar Lights, and her robot avatar ST-2. Kinda strange for a somewhat grounded universe. https://youtube.com/shorts/x2eEbBN61rk https://umamusu.wiki/Sugar_Lights https://umamusu.wiki/ST-2

>>42677 Young earth creationists are going have to explain circular DNA of plastids and the mitochondia as well as human chromosome 2. These are the strongest points for evolution, but I don't think evolution is incompatible with Christianity.

>>42699 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbiogenesis

>>42699 True, great point Riboss. BTW, there are hundreds of other systemic issues with their hottake. BTW, none of the organizations I've linked to are YEC -adherents. I'm not attempting to speak for anyone else here but just myself alone: I personally consider the YEC claims to be extraordinarily-harmful ones concerning the endeavor of Christian Evangelism. There is literally no evangelistic value in their positions. At all. While God won't lose any of His own in the end (preaching the Gospel even after death for those who would believe) [1], this has ravaged countless millions from living a full life in Christ, simply through (reasonable, IMO) offense at YEC's adamant (and non-biblical) take on the age of the universe. B/c (((reasons))), they have managed to spread this mindvirus far-and-wide in the West today...posturing themselves in the media as the """one-and-only-Christian-worldview""". Thankfully its actually a rather new concept (~150yrs now), and hasn't plagued most of human history. Only subsequent to Darwin's "On the Origin of Species..." has it come into being (and directly in an attempted-response to it). I love them as fellow Christians, but I strongly-oppose their position on this set of topics. As @GreerTech implicated before (though on other terms): "To deny physical evidence is fallacy" (cf. >>42651 ). They are attempting to claim that God's second "book" [2] has no authenticity or merit at all compared to biblical scripture (yet spend vast amounts of their considerable resources examining said 2nd book in an attempt to "hogtie" it with their presuppositions, lol). This is actually a very deep fallacy IMO. It simultaneously impugns both God's handiworks, as well as His moral character... as if He could contradict Himself in any way (ie, lie or be deceptive). This position is patently impossible, biblically-speaking. (It also rages against simple common sense.) --- >but I don't think evolution is incompatible with Christianity. Its not per se. Microevolution of smol organisms (ant-sized or smol'r -- but especially the microbes) is directly-observable under controlled conditions. And that fact isn't at odds with any biblical precepts, either. But so-called neo-Darwinian "Macroevolution" isn't in fact real at all. God directly-created all advanced life species. He is also the sole, one-and-only Originator of all life forms (and indeed the entirety of the universe) [3]. >tl;dr True, but neither is it necessary.

>>42702 Another point towards neo-lamarckianism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hologenome_theory_of_evolution

>>42706 Intredasting. While I'm not convinced, I'm also aware of so-called microchimerism, so I don't consider the idea so far-fetched as to be out of the realm of possibility. As to the basic idea of host/parasite symbiosis, that's well-proven. My favorite example to share with laymen out in the field are trees -- especially the really big ones: they are a vast collection of biomes & sub-biomes within their innate structures (often comprised of hundreds and thousands of different [and differing] species). They are practically an """economy""" of bio-riches "changing hands" moment-to-moment within/upon them! :^)

>>39414 Done.

>>39397 ok text is now a bigga

>>39429 Done.

>>42709 Done.

>>42667 >>42670 Simply put, we need to popularize local SLMs/LLMs. Too many people see AI as either a god, or a demon if you're a leftoid artist. This is no doubt the result of ((((marketing)))), but it's also just unfamiliarity with the technology and the power of the Turing Test. Personally, I see online AIs as a wise professor. He is very knowledgeable, but he is not my friend, nor is he infallible. And I don't use ChatGPT for anything other than image generation.

>>42673 >Personally, I see online AIs as a wise professor. He is very knowledgeable, but he is not my friend, nor is he infallible. That's a pretty good way of putting things, Anon.

>>42673 Wrangling with various AIs, I look at 'em more like fully automated space luxury autism :)

>>42683 ChatGPT is an HR employee that's really good at art Grok is autistic Claude is a neurotic mental patient Copilot is Microsoft Tech Support saar DeepSeek is the pic of chad Xi Jinping Gemini is a retarded DEI employee (glue pizza is part of they's culture, you bigotcel!!!)

>>42683 >>42684 Lel'd. :DD

I made this guide for myself for Google alternatives, as part of a project I'm working on, and I'm sharing the guide with you guys in the spirit of sharing information Bonus: Find the GreerTech invention

>>42426 Without looking, I'll guess Find Hub?

>>42438 Wrong It was FreeStream https://freestream.neocities.org/

>>42444 >digits Dang! Oh well. :D Nice work, Anon. Cheers. :^)

Ken Thompson's 1984 Turing Award lecture: https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/manage/thread/26.html#1334 He played a trick to shock people in the ACM about security threats in software. >related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ7lOus1FzQ

>>37151 >relatively negligible concern in this case it made a really big difference on my machine, its not just data, the instructions are also cached and theyre all the same after being optimized so its a big headstart after the first round also forgot to mention O3 doesnt really optimize it just messes up loops by going extreme with unrolling, no one uses it for that reason, its too much and has the opposite effect, declare the c function as bool c_find_id_get_val(std::vector<Widget> const &widgets, unsigned int id, double &value)__attribute__((optimize(2))); if you have to use O3, when not messed up by the optimizer a loop should have less overhead just cuz theres no function calls like when calling an object

>>37154 >the instructions are also cached and theyre all the same after being optimized Good point. >-O2 vs -O3 I simply went with the flag that produced the highest performance results on my machine. I tried both. But thanks for the further insights, Anon. Cheers.

C++ LLM usage >>38840 >>38841 >>38845 >=== -patch crosslink

I've been busy enough the past few months that I missed this. Reflection is accepted into C++26! This has the potential to transform the language entirely: a meta-generator of metaprogramming. I'm no expert, but I'm unaware of any other language that puts so many capabilities together into a single language now. Hopefully the compiler vendors will be on top of this quickly (after all, it will help them in their own work dramatically). The Committee Convener (Herb Sutter) wrote about this landmark: https://herbsutter.com/2025/06/21/trip-report-june-2025-iso-c-standards-meeting-sofia-bulgaria/

>>42680 >related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z9NNrRDHQU

>>42664 Lol. Welcome [redacted-Anon]. Have a look around the board. >vile troon's name It's no secret; it's in control of Apt for Debian. >=== BTW, I'm going to relo' this post to our basement throd ( >>39 ) soon-ish. I can't move your pic, but feel free to repost it there at your leisure. Cheers. :^)

>>42660 Avoid transDesbian Avoid GlowHat Best Linux Distros; Beginner/ Just Works -Mint Certified Hood Classic. Can personally attest to it's comfy vibes -Bazzite Great for a dedicated gaming rig -PopOs! Newcomer on the block, heard good things, very Windows 10-esque UI design, comes preinstalled on System76 computers Power user -Gentoo -Arch

>>42668 >I use Mint btw How are you enjoying it, GreerTech? That where I got my start with Linux. I would add to your list: >Industrial-strength, safety-first OpenBSD (cf. >>37932 )

>>42669 Still enjoying it, and FOSS in general

>>42672 Excellent. Once you're comfortable with Mint as a platform in general, I'd recommend you begin dabbling with the terminal and learning some of the vast array of UNIX commands available to you now. Many of these programs are kind of fun and informative, like fastfetch [1] and htop [2] (or even better, btop [3] ). Good luck, GreerTech! Cheers. --- 1. (installing it is one command + enter, per line): sudo add-apt-repository ppa:zhangsongcui3371/fastfetch sudo apt update sudo apt install fastfetch fastfetch 2. sudo apt install htop htop 3. sudo apt install btop btop

Having trouble learning binary addition, Anon? Then just play with some marbles! :D https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/thread/26.html#1333

If you like Minecraft, then you might like this: https://openredstone.org/ https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdY48wAmI3aCCeRO83bjYrOSQNmrO_hE1

I have an project idea, but I need some general advise. The goal is to have a local LLM running on a Linux server, which it could control via CLI. The user could talk to it and give it some tasks to do, but the main part would be that when left with nothing to do, it could decide it's own goals to pursue. (coding, writing a personal website, browsing the web...) One could say that the goal of the experiment is to achieve an AI that could operate mostly by itself and achieve something meaningful while doing so. This would give the waifu the ability to have her own life outside of user interaction, making her both more useful and more realistic. I am planning on writing some LLM wrapper, which would implement API for interacting with the system, as well as handling multiple levels of memory and personality, both controlled by the model itself. More complex features like MCP API support or connection to some external hardware are being considered as possible extensions, but the current plan is a simple, Linux-controlling, AI companion. My knowledge of the current local LLM landscape is severely limited, however, so I come here to ask for help. Are local LLMs there yet? What is the least demanding model that you would consider capable of operating a Linux system and not freaking out when left alone? How powerful hardware would I need to run it? What backend should I use? (ollama, llamacpp, something else) Anything else I should know/consider?

>>41860 Hi Anon, welcome! I wish I could help you, Anon. If some other Anons here don't step up, then I'd suggest you check out /g/ 's threads on these topics in general. In particular, focus on the Local Models General ( /LMG/ ) threads. Good luck with your project, Anon! Please keep us here informed as to your progress. Cheers. :^)

>>41860 I can offer some insights. - having powerful hardware will improve quality immensely, but you can get a lower form of this up now with smaller models. - It will have context limit challenges which will need to be overcome with smart uses of tokens and how you store memories, but you can have a functioning thing as you describe, but detailed memories will eat into this heavily. having different ranked memory tiers and clearing lower ones and a mix of other clever ideas can improve all of these issues, at this stage it's just a matter of having a "lower resolution" AI companion, you could probably later update your methods as tech advances, and greater hardware means greater resolution. - I would suggest using multiple models to parse and make your AI companion smarter and not stuck into the patterns and paths that each models holds close to and deviates towards. to keep it simple, load one model, think for a bit, switch models, think a bit, especially with current limitations I would let a large chunk of time when the companion is by itself computing, to go over it's past and it's token database and refine it and have discussions and debates with itself to self-improve and refine itself. - I would have these personally as modes which you switch from her active life and talking to you, and her maintenance/sleep mode where she improves her database. - I will use sillytavern just as the idea vessel here, as I am used to it but I have not done this work myself properly since I'm busy with life. . . . use something like the memory and world lore books to store memories and events, they can each have a comprehensive recording into essentially "quants" of the lore books, where your chat history is fully recorded as non-quanted, then various levels of condensing and sorting out less important info/tokens, then your companion will think for each task and memory which quant of each lore book is suitable keeping in mind limitations hardware and current state of LLMs. - basically it will have a large database which it will parse and read through similar to how you will have it load models one at a time to use then switching to another, it will load different sets of the full database at a time to parse it. - You do the usual things you would expect, writing the personalities, creating the framework of the database, then you just have it use auto-mode similar to how sillytavern has group chats with different personality card as the other character, which is sort of her maintenance/ recursive improvement mode, again, multiple different reasoning/COT models being swapped through will be ideal here specifically.

The good news here is it's possible on local, and the bulk of the work will be in maintenance mode when you are not interacting with her, but for it to be good it will be very slow, but this will be when you are sleeping or away. When you are chatting, you will simply have to accept lower quality speech to you to make it run at a reasonable tokens/second generation, but pulled from the refined database which she created during her past maintenance phase where she runs a stronger model at an abysmally slow tokens per second/minute rate for precision.

>>42608 >>42609 POTD