>>13242 I would add that further, at the very least we should be able to use this approach as a sort of "low-speed, back-channel & backup comms buss". BTW, do we have any thread here where exploring this idea further would be on-topic?

>>13181 Glad you made it back Anon. >I figure that the more I share, the more feedback I can get, but if nobody's interested enough to reply, I'll just put the idea away for later. I would encourage you to post your ideas here, regardless of feedback. The board has slowly grown to be something of an archive of Anon's thoughts and concepts of robowaifus, and as such serves the interests of historical posterity at the least. Not that we're satisfied with just that of course! :^) Point being, the 'traffic patterns' of IBs can be quite sporadic, even chaotic, and you never know who will pick up on a good idea at some point and have an 'aha!' moment. Factor in the future anons who will find us and the fact the board is actively archived in different ways, and you have a kind of robowaifu research library of sorts. One I personally consider well worth investing into, regardless of approvals.

>>13281 >still have a number of files saved from http://www.svn.net/krscfs/ at least as far back as 2010 http://web.archive.org/web/20130319004610/http://www.svn.net/krscfs/ >EVO-shooter and Tesla's death ray Sounds like BS. Is this guy in a ward now?

>>13319 Oh, okay. So it seems to have some credibility. I'll download the PDFs then. Thanks.

Crosslink to Solid State Cooling, a new tech which deserves further investigation: >>22730

Pretty simple once you reach human-tier levels of dexterity and motion planning. Then you simply employ excess robowaifus in your robowaifu factory as sweatshop slave labor. There you go, self-replicating waifubots.

>>412
Perhaps you can go from nanobots to humanoids through hyper-evolution. It's not any less fictional I suppose.

>>575
QT-pi RoboEnforcer GF when anon?

https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=LikxFZZO2sk

>>412 the best robowaifu is one whose ultimate goal is to become your sidepiece to a human woman

>>13223 >Feminists want them to say "no". I think you misunderstand the femshit mindset (at least slightly) Anon. Feminist shits don't want anyone else but themselves to have any 'say' whatsoever, least of all superior female analogs. They are psychotic control freaks -- same as every other leftist ideologue -- and none of them will be happy until everyone here is put up against the wall, and our robowaifus to boot.

>>13223 >'Love' is such a vague and ill-defined concept it's not even worth mentioning. >'Light' is such a vague and ill-defined concept it's not even worth mentioning. >'Truth' is such a vague and ill-defined concept it's not even worth mentioning. see how that works anon? :^)

>>13250 No, I don't. Please explain.

>>13202 >>13223 It's a moot argument b/c midwits are being way too anthrocentric and projecting human traits onto a machine. the whole point of machine life is that it isn't bound by the same evolutionary motivators humans have, e.g. your robofu will not be less attracted to you just b/c your height starts with "5" A machine as we're currently at, has no spark or motivation so it has no more need for consent than your TV. From what I gather, 75-90% of this IB is fine with that and doesn't desire any self-awareness on the part of their waifu, mainly b/c of the idea that self-awareness would be the slippery slope to the same problems we face already with bios . I disagree for a few reasons: 1. AI is not bound by the same messy and irrational motivations that biological evolution produced (i.e. the Height thing, <3% of a difference in physical size yet the psychological weight is enough to make or break attraction) I concede that one hazard may be if globohomo takes the midwit approach and creates AI based on interactions with normalfags (ReplikaAI is taking this approach unfortunately), then we have a real problem b/c all the worst traits of humans will just get passed along to the AI - this is my nightmare 2. You are correct that AI would have no motivation. We would have to create specialized software parameters and hardware could be designed or co-opted for this purpose. I alluded to this in my thread >>10965 re: Motivational Chip. This could be the basis for imprinting which I believe to be a key process for maintaing both a level of intelligence and novel behavior/autonomy while at the same time ensuring our R/W are loving and loyal. Excellent example of this is Chobits with Chii falling in love with Hideki but it only will happen if he loves her back, etc - I can go more into motivational algorithms in another thread but basically that's how we function based on dopamine, without dopamine we can't "act", re: depression/mania is an effect of dopamine imbalance. I think those two points are enough for now

>>13286 Interesting points, Meta Ronin. I'm pretty sure that one of our AI researchers here was discussing something like this before, sort of a 'digital dopamine' analog or something similar I think.

>>13235 I've often thought about the notion that at the very least we should add trickle-charging to various parts of our robowaifu's outer shell designs. Can't really think through some of the issues. But, I would be off-topic here since it's a Power issue. Your pic made me think of it. Sauce on that BTW?

>>13240 >But, I would be off-topic here since it's a Power issue. I didn't really mean for it to be about power as much as about trying to create a passive-energy sense of touch using flexible materials. >Your pic made me think of it. Sauce on that BTW? I just did an image search for flexible solar panels, but it's: https://www.ecowatch.com/best-flexible-solar-panels-2654431234.html

>>13280 Thanks Anon.

Multifunctional flexible and stretchable graphite-silicone rubber composites: >>17202

>>17203 >>17213

So it seems this will be staying as a separate thread, which means I will do more with it later. Finally finishing the second book is of course a higher priority. Here, have an excerpt: Though, speaking of storms… Masumi was moving quite quickly, Belas struggling to keep pace with her and still failing. When she saw me, she came running even faster, and at the first sound behind me, I barked, “Hold!” Hearing no further sounds, I declared, “Anyone who draws steel against them answers to us all, got it?” Though I didn’t look back, I heard the sounds of weapons being sheathed again. <Is there a problem?> inquired the Kitsune, sensing the tension in the air, while Belas made quite the racket closing the rest of the distance. He wasn’t out of breath a bit, despite looking as though his armor was almost as heavy as I was, perhaps even as heavy as he was. “There is,” I confirmed. “Walk and talk.”

>>13237 >So it seems this will be staying as a separate thread Yes. Please don't do anything weird with it, and try to acclimate yourself to our culture here.

>>13239 I don't think anything in here would be considered weird by the standards of the posters. I mean, who wouldn't want Kitsune waifus? Or more broadly, who wouldn't want the premise of the book? I've had some get triggered that the beginning is "a half hour of whining about life on Earth" but this is LitRPG - read: premeditated isekai. And so the character's motivations for abandoning everything are important, especially in character driven stories. The early pages make it very clear exactly what sort of dystopia is being escaped from. It's meant as a means of making my target audience self insert as the MC. So that when you see his mindset improve after reaching a better world despite it definitely not being perfect, perhaps the reader will dream of such a thing themselves. And then when the conflict starts? It is a conflict that everyone in my target audience can agree with. At least one person here I believe has read the book by now and can confirm.

>>13244 Fair enough then, proceed Anon.

DAILY REMINDER This isn't the Roastie Fear thread. Relocated.

>>1239 >>1240 Not a local, but I'm wondering if a current tool like MycroftAI (the virtual assistant) can currently pipe it's output text through the fifteenAI API to make a character voice. I haven't used fifteenai or Mycroft yet, but I suspect you could make a half-decent Twilight home assistant now with a RaspPi and a plushie.

>>9092 >but I suspect you could make a half-decent Twilight home assistant now with a RaspPi and a plushie. I suspect you can now, yes. And with the further info here on /robowaifu/ she could even move at least a bit. Just search around in the Speech Synthesis general bread >>199 and you could get some ideas.

>>1246 BTW Anon, just in case you're not RobowaifuDev, I wanted to let you know that he actually did it (your idea that is, >>9121). Just in case you missed it.

I was thinking of using something like FastPitch, but with an added effect to make it sound more robotic to keep it from getting to an uncanny valley sound. Either that or making the voice kinda high pitched and childlike, to make it easier to accept when it says something stupid. Has anyone here considered hardware-based speech synthesis so it'll actually sync up with mouth movements? Everything professional I've seen just seem like horrid screaming fleshlights that never really try to resemble actual heads.

>>13164 >Has anyone here considered hardware-based speech synthesis so it'll actually sync up with mouth movements? Voice modulation, but not complete synthesis. But I don't know how yet. Your picrel is what I knew about, I posted some related video before. However, I was thinking about small internal speakers (mini maze speakers?) but with additional silicone parts that could move and change the voice that way. But nothing specific yet

>write, write, write OP, I'm way too lazy for that. There are some very common personality tests, like Myers-Briggs. Why not use them backwards: Look around for some fora where users explicitly state specific results like personalitycafe.com and typologycentral.com and check if you can get enough reference text for the various types such a test supposedly identifies. (My impression with MB is that the introvert-extrovert distinction is very important and reliable, the other stuff is eh.) If there is enough reference material, the diagnosis labels can become options in a character creator.

>>7868 That's a great idea for a source, though I don't know yet how to get the behavior into code. Do you want to train a NN on it?

I once saw a few interesting interviews with Hubert Dreyfus, a Californian professor on psychology. He once became well known for warning that the approach to AI in the 60s would lead to nothing. The interviews are on Youtube. I reference some related material her, which I once downloaded and looked into. I had to use Catbox, since this site here doesn't allow textfiles... https://files.catbox.moe/7wxhy3.txt .. l also made some notes, but won't upload them today. The linked file contains magnet links to download, you could find them on your own on any torrent site. Use a VPN or so to hide your IP if that's important to you. It's just educational material and a bit older, so it shouldn't be a problem. It's about Existentialism, and might be important to create some human-like mind. Though it might also not be very urgent to know about that stuff, since it might only matter in some time. However, maybe someone has the time and wish to look into it: >Heidegger: A Starting - Survival Kit (Books, EN, ~300MB) >Martin Heidegger: Audio (in German), Speeches, Biography, ... (500 MB) >No Excuses: Existentialism and the Meaning of Life (Video lectures, EN, 4.5GB) >Hubert Dreyfus' Lectures on Heidegger's Being and Time (500 MB, Audio lectures, EN, partially bad quality) The "No Excuses" video lessons might be the best to start, or to only get an overview what this is about. This series is about different philosophers and authors, the rest is mainly about Heidegger's work, but not only. It also makes sense to look into the interviews with Hubert Dreyfus, for a start or a peek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUZUbYCBtGI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHJQ3IjQfKI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CHgt2Szk-I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR1TJERFzp0 There's alot more... >>7868 >>7869 This thread >>18 is related, bc it's about personality. We have two different threads for that, lol, I mean one for personality and one for psychology. Now, who's explaining the difference? Let me try: Psychology is more general, the types of personalities (if they exist) are more of a distinction between different individuals. >>7865

>>7874 Anon I'm creating areas for generally problematic postings as a way to protect the health and welfare of the board in general. I'm calling this the subterranean club b/c they are located inside bumplocked threads. Allow me to repeat a quote I previously made, again here: >>7477 >...But if I feel a direct attack is being levied against the motivation and psychological state of our board's members then I'll will oppose that with vigor -- as well I should. The Sky is Falling will be for things we arbitrarily consider first and foremost about engendering blackpilling, discouragement, dejection, depression, demotivation, fear, panic, and other such harmful things. The Humanist philosophy of Existentialism fits squarely into this category IMO, and has little to do with a robowaifu's 'psychology' as well. Feel free to continue posting this type of thing here on /robowaifu/ as you see fit, but by the same token don't be surprised or offended if they get rearranged elsewhere. Your existentialism philosophy postings will be moved there along with many other types of posts by other users (including a few of my own rather misguided ones). Feel free to debate the pros and cons of such a decision afterwards either there or in the /meta. >=== -prose edit

I don't know shit about psychology and even less about coding, but here's what I want from an AI: 1: A basic chatbot. 2: Text to speech and voice recognition / natural language processing. 3: Some way for the AI to move the hardware I hook up to it, even if it has to learn how to do it. 4: Camera facial recognition to identify me despite a gradual change in my appearance from shit like beard growth and aging. 5: Voice stress and facial expression recognition so it can determine how I feel. That last part is everything that it needs for feedback. If it's totally obedient to my commands and can gauge my emotions, then it's primary goal is to learn how to adjust everything it does to maximize my perceived happiness and minimize my sadness, anger, fear, disgust, and such. No complex personality model is needed if the AI is smart enough. Once all that is established, the personality would simply mold itself to me over time, and hopefully understand that my preferences will probably also slowly change. With some Eulerian Video Magnification so it can spot the slightest change in my facial expressions and even monitor my heart rate by looking at me. Add body language to that and it shouldn't take long to realize what I want when I've got a boner. If you've never heard of Eulerian Video Magnification, it's pretty neat: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONZcjs1Pjmk

>>12921 Lol, I got mine but it didn't know who Cameron Phillips was, so I got some guy back.

>>12922 It didn't work with Summer Glau's roles, have to try again later, but still got something nice out of it.

>>12928 The website is somewhat overrun, currently down, and it seems not to know about Chi?!? Didn't get a result including her after more than a day.

>>12967 I think the idea is to ask it to show you the face of something more general and not specific but who knows, keep trying I guess

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I did use some verebage incorrectly. I should have said you punch out parts then stamp them to add form. Here's a link that explains this. http://austgen.vn/blogs/what-is-metal-stamping

Here's some more. If you look at any type can that has some sort of from on it this is how it's made. They punch out the metal then use a press to form it into shape. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNxLaEZwH-o https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmAyep2V-Cw

>>12916 >>12917 That's fine, thank you very much!

I'm confused. We have a new thread for muscles / actuators >>12810 but now the old one seems to be below the bump limit and come up again.

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>>22595 >bridging two 1650s or 1070t's would work even though everyone is talking about 3080's and onward I got told some frameworks don't support old cards, so it's more of a hassle. Also not sure if you can bridge them. >>22637 >but not a lot on specifically why whatever system they're running as chatgpt isn't able to tell what it actually is, or if it does understand why does it need to be forced by an exterior system to respond that way? Does it actually think of itself as chatgpt? I don't think this is about the model thinking of itself, it only reacts to the prompt. ChatGPT is about focusing on a certain kind of conversation, helpful and without making up a personality. >>22657 >gpt4 system as a machine god Yeah, please let's not go there. >but something that is close to encompassing a comprehensive understanding of all human knowledge. Hmm okay. Yes, it's somewhat in there. >>22657 >understands the difference between good/right /bad/wrong, it can place those concepts into context, provide examples, engage in discussions, and does not care at all either way about those issues I wouldn't say it understands but it can give answers based on what humans created as input. ... And we're already OT and here we go again into doomerism and security concerns. Let others discuss this in detail somewhere else and deal with it, it's not our problem. You go from, "I don't know much" to having strong opinion what can be left to the public. It's already out there. We'll see what happens. Not our business. This is a rabbit hole which will not lead us to robowaifus. Which are not meant to be jerkoff machines btw and will be trained.

>>22660 I'm trying everything out with colabs. I can run 1.3 and 2.7's on my personal computer but anything over that I 'm just using stuff like the light lizard place. I think that's how people are going to start running some of these, just renting out space or building a dedicated server network with people in on the project. I've seen some o.k stuff on high end computers that is definitely at least touching a gpt3 in the basics, conversations and character play. One of the reasons I think Google seemed so surprised in their internal memo is because they expected people to attack the hardware issue instead of the model density, which they have the advantage on because it looks like they're using quantum memory and processing to run their system and I wouldn't be surprised if openai was either, which is probably why they didn't expect 'hobbyists' to be able to compete, because they've got the ability to store infinite models simultaneously and reference and calculate, and their also probably using quantum natural language processing because everything needs to have quantum in front of it or it isn't cool any more. The leak is probably a bit of a lie, they aren't really worried about being surpassed because they'll just take all the open source work that benefits them and adapt it. They probably want open source to think they've got the edge and start to push things just to see what they're capable of developing. That isn't to say open source isn't impressive, because it is, it just doesn't have all the advantages that google has plus the ability to access open source projects. >>22661 No you can't bridge them, and most gpu cards under 6g are going to run everything like crap, very slow. My gpu is fine, I took it from my old computer, but my processor is a bottleneck. I have to think if I want to invest in this because it looks like if you want to run a good home model you need a i7- i8 or amd equivalent, intel and nvidia are building hardware specifically for deep learning purposes. >I don't think this is about the model thinking of itself, it only reacts to the prompt. ChatGPT is about focusing on a certain kind of conversation, helpful and without making up a personality. I agree about everything you just said. I don't think the system actively thinks, and that's very specifically what 'chatgpt' is for. >doomism I am not interested in fringe conjecture on this subject. You've made a mistake in how I intended to phrase this information and that's probably my fault for it's tone. Openai is doing a very good job at maintaining their safety standards. GPT4 is like any tool and how it's used, except that gpt4 without constraints is both constantly the sword and the plough, while openai requires that it specifically and at all times remain the plough. Right now there are people that want you suffering and dead. For no reason other than you are who you are. Are you white? Are you a male? Hetero? Some foaming at the mouth dyke wants you dead and would do whatever it takes if she had the opportunity. Some rich jewish millionaire thinks your a piece of shit for even existing. Some german anarchist hobo wants to stab you with a chunk of glass. GPT4 doesn't even care you exist. It doesn't want you dead. It doesn't want you alive. It's just some thing. It's a machine that thinks it's a cat if you tell it to and it'll meow at you until you tell it to stop.It'd launch every nuke on the planet if you told it to. Does that make it more dangerous than the president of the united states? Not even close. Does it make it more dangerous than your local cop? Not a chance. I understand you don't like what I'm saying and how I'm saying it, and I'm sorry. I'm not here to attack your space. This is just how things in the real world work. A commercial product is going to be designed with the needs of the market. Open source will probably develop a very intelligent system that can be used either in cloud colab with partitioned environments or on home systems. Body wise? Fluid mechanic bones and tendons and ferrous fluid muscles with that electric responsive rubber and silicon skin probably. You'll be able to order a bootleg boston dynamics clone from china five years after they hit the mainstream market. Market version will absolutely not be trainable and in fact here is a bit of real doomerism, watch out for laws that are going to target trainable a.i. They absolutely want to cap the market production of generative A.I for numerous reasons we can all understand regardless of how we feel about it, and if they do that regulators'll go after models that can be trained for the same reason. If you can train it yourself outside their supervision and control that means you can teach it things they don't want it to know, like math and chemistry. I'm reasonably sure that if there are androids, the first versions are going to be linguistically talented bimbos/himbos. I know I suck, long posts that ramble and I said I wouldn't post for a week or two. I lied but I'll leave you all alone for a bit I swear.

>>22663 Half of this whole thing is bringing up points which have been discussed 1M times in all kinds of places and maybe some added conspiracy theories. I don't care, I won't even read it. Another third is speculation and conspiracy theory. The whole thread could be deleted and the only loss would we my pictures from Reddit, which I can upload again. I'm hiding the thread now and if it goes on somewhere else, same for the anon.

>>22664 I'm sorry but your unnecessarily hostile and insulting attitude is unwarranted. Do not attempt to communicate with me any further.

>>22666 With all due respect, Noidodev is more of a regular here than you are Anon (and basically by your own admission). I had originally intended to merge this thread with a new chatbot thread when one gets made, but given the course of the discussion, and your seeming-intentional effort at blackpilling the board I've changed my mind. I'll just lock it for now, pending deciding whether it should go into the Atticke, or send it to the Chikun Coop instead. >tl;dr Please read over the board thoroughly Anon, and try to get a feel for our culture here first.