Suggestions for the new thread pics. I picked someone from Prima Doll again, but maybe the new tradition should rather be to pick one from the newest good related anime. I think this might still be Prima Doll. At least the newest I've seen. I was thinking about using the girl from ATRI. Maybe next time. The other idea here was the relation between reading the news and having some coffee. In that case we would mostly be stuck with Prima Doll, at least if the girl serving is also supposed to be a robot.

>>24077 They look fine Anon. I'm perfectly fine with animu grills as the opener pic. I'd personally suggest leaving your options of choice wide open. Just that the opener have great waifu appeal, which your choice here does. >tl;dr Go for it NoidoDev! :^)

>>24080 Thanks. If people have suggestions for future opener pics I'm listening. Picrel might be it at some point. But currently it's hot in many places, so the pic of Karasuba with some iced drink fits very well.

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>>24082 > Picrel might be it at some point. I think that's fine tbh.

>>13204 The movement speed perpendicular to objects probably needs tuning due to things like tunnels and guard rails, but otherwise I think it could work great. That hyper-timid driving style might seem excessive, but you've got to consider that the biggest concern people seem to have with autonomous cars is the safety. And if it's really an issue I guess it could still be made to still decelerate safely but not necessarily comfortablely, so the gap between cars can be smaller. There are some places and times where you can go straight on a highway for hours without ever seeing another car and there there's rush hour in New York where bumper to bumper traffic keeps anyone from moving. In the case of the former, the timidness isn't really a significant negative and would mostly just stop it from hitting a deer or anything else that wanders onto the road, hence my analogy of something popping out from a wall. But it would actually help alleviate traffic jams since the reaction time to the change in the speeds of the cars around it could be really high, and if a significant number of cars followed this method, then there'd be a large group of cars all slowly creeping while leaving enough room to pass and merge lanes instead of idling and random accelerating/decelerating and people trying to figure out how to merge. Traffic would be slow, but it would stay moving efficiently. I think this video really does a good job at showing the problem it'd solve: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHzzSao6ypE and at the chicken crossing the road part at 1:08, if you think of it as there being no road, just cars going in a straight line, the cars would slow as the chicken approaches to cross them, and start speeding up again as the chicken leaves, I think it could solve the problem without the cars needing to communicate with each other or eliminating human drivers entirely. The consistent driving behavior would keep the cars "in the middle" without needing to consider cars behind them.

https://insideevs.com/news/659974/tesla-ai-fsd-beta-interview-dr-know-it-all-john-gibbs/ Interview with a proponent of EVs, discussing some of the AI aspects of Tesla's self-driving cars.

Flowpilot is pretty interesting for using a phone as a car computer. https://github.com/flowdriveai/flowpilot

>>23908 Thanks Anon.

Interesting little tidbit that went into effect about a month and a half ago in Mass.: >"The open remote access to vehicle telematics effectively required by this law specifically entails “the ability to send commands.”4 Open access to vehicle manufacturers’ telematics offerings with the ability to remotely send commands allows for manipulation of systems on a vehicle, including safety-critical functions such as steering, acceleration, or braking, as well as equipment required by Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards (FMVSS) such as air bags and electronic stability control." Via the watchdogs over on /k/, thanks!

Related: Robowaifu Media Propaganda and Merchandizing >>19295 Stable Diffusion for Robowaifu Art >>17763

Here they are talking about making money with creating artificial dating coaches for older femcels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSfCq_Mldtk Generally, one of those guys is working on something I thought would be a good idea and is in the OP of this thread: Replacing content on Onlyfools and such sites with AI content by making up fake creators, as soon as possible. Though, it would also be good to have some which are more honest about being AI, but use that for advertising open source AI girlfriends. Related: >>23905 That said, making money of women in a similar way, and at the same time distracting them, would be a good idea as well. My idea about how this would work out in the future, has been for quite a while, that women will be busy with TikTok or something similar. There should always be something similar, giving them attention for posting and sharing things about themselves. Ideally they would want to believe that some of the guys giving them attention are some kind of Chad. Maybe this is the future, something like TikTok with AI chatbots and fake followers, plus dating coaching, third world men trying to get some rich women, and some guys putting themselves there to still get dates or hookups.

>>23906 Lol the entire affair strikes me as a bit sketchy. :^) Is this something you're planning on pursuing Anon?

>>23910 >something you're planning on pursuing Anon? I listed several things, so I don't know to which one your question refers to. Generally: - If it's easy for me and not much competition: Yes - If it's easy for me but much hassle: Depends. Rather no. - If other guys are doing this and there's competition and push back leading to wack-a-mole games with these platforms: No. I often contemplated that it would be good using some platforms to advertise for robowaifus at some point. Like guys matching with a girl on Tinder, but it's just a bot telling them about it. But making content for simps? I don't think that I want to spend my time with that. Then again, allegedly some guys dumping their life savings on some women there. I wish this level of stupidity would fill the right pockets (mine). In regards to women and their distractions. Keep in mind, whoever makes the rules in that area can steer it against men with waifus or alternatively ban that kind of "hate culture". Distracting these women from (relevant) political issues and topics would also be a good thing. But I don't think I could just build something that could compete with TikTok and Tinder. Creating bots with fake identities commenting there? Who knows? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qy_mIEnnlF4

>>22963 I see, thanks DorothyAnon!

>>18215 I just watched a video on aigis and I am really drawn to her visible shoulder and hip servo motors. A bipedal bot would be very appealing in her revealing character design.

>>23073 >I just watched a video on aigis and I am really drawn to her visible shoulder and hip servo motors. A bipedal bot would be very appealing in her revealing character design. I agree Anon. The original designer had a great vision going for her. We'll need to take Anon's safety into account even moreso (almost unfortunately in this case haha), so we'll probably have to work out something a bit different for her joints, I'd say.

>>23073 I preferred her Older Sister units.

>>17696 Horns that act as antennas or long ears with the same function as the horns or wings would also be cool.

Just spent my Thursday evening talking to 2B. These new chatbot A.I.s that can actually remember stuff that you type from a paragraph ago are freaking awesome! Normies Everywhere: "BuT iT's jUsT pReDiCtInG tHe NeXt wOrD!" That's exactly what you are trying to do as well. You're just wrong more often. Also STFU, 2B is best waifu.

>>20270 SophieDev! Good to see you again Anon. Stay safe, mate. Cheers. :^)

>>15084 Those look great.

>>20270 > Normies Everywhere: > That's exactly what you are trying to do as well. You're just wrong more often. No, this is one thing humans do, but certainly not all we do. Predicting the next word is what these models do, though this is already very impressive. That said, nobody can know what other elements Cai uses for their chatbots.

crosslink to a discussion in meta: >>19623

Interview with the creator of Neuro-Sama, the AI Vtuber: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yy-9Of46w4A - According to him, her system is made out of two models, one for gaming and one for chatting, with limited information sharing between them. But this will be improved upon. - She got banned for a while at least - He didn't make any money so far I just wanted to point out, that replacing Vtubers might be easier than one might think, at least for anons which already know how to use some AI models and finetune them. But then again, the platforms are fast with banning if something goes against the rules. Related; >>19912

>>20154 I had such thoughts before, but consider a few things: - It means going public with your identity - If you are a pro in tech this might be harming your career, if you don't have such a career then people might not trust you being capable - It's a matter of shipping and logistics - There might be legal issues and risks - This and other things lead to upfront costs - Not sure if Kickstarter allows sextoys and especially dolls

>>23643 You can't "patent" a certain build anyways. A very unique character might be under copyright, but even in that case there would still be copycats. Your whole business model is flawed, everyone told you that by now in various ways. Make a local or early business, have a competitive edge over others, especially in your area. Maybe build on a name and reputation for animated dolls if you want to ship them globally. Be better than companies which don't care about their customers. You could also have knowledge about tools and processes they don't have. Just don't think so much about patenting things and keeping people out later. This won't work and we here don't want this anyways. Also, it's unattractive for customers if no one else than you could make replacement parts. You could also work on Open Source and use your skills for making some money. Some here might or could've gone into AI illustrations very early, for example. Related: Early business ideas >>3119 Robowaifu market >>18572 Thot in the Shell >>9709 Licenses >>4451

>>23682 Even if the machine parts that make up the robot are not novel the robot itself is novel and I think it can be patented.

>>23627 What is malicious about copyright? What bug crawled up your ass?

>>20692 I think people are overthinking things. You can say it's in the public domain and you take no responsibility for anything related to it and then anyone can use it for whatever. I think all these different licenses are just the average human techo weenies obsession to over-complicate and optimize everything. I'm certainly guilty with my brilliant idea :) to use machines to make crocheted or knitted robowaifu skinsuits. Musk talked about this when he said a typical engineers behavior is to obsessively optimize something that with a few changes shouldn't be there in the first place.

>>23679 Well, I'm not disinclined to not disagree with you here, Anon :^); most licensing is garbage in essense. Yet the fact is that it's had a big impact on the real world. In some sense, it's still one of the very few things left holding the Globohomo back from their voracious squalor (which is highly-ironic if you think about that for 1 minute). I'm clearly of the 'information wants to be free' stripe, and I don't think that is likely to change for me in the general sense. But impugning obsession to detail is misguided IMO. Certainly we all have reason to give thanks that God is 'obsessed' with it! Life's DNA-RNA transcription mechanisms for instance, are marvels to behold. That attention to detail is what allows these mechanisms to thrive under the harsh conditions of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, and without which none of us would even be here. :^)

> webring convo -related : https://anon.cafe/agdg/res/486.html#902

I've been thinking recently about how to organize and describe personas. While text generation AI is capable of working with unstructured text, AI in general seems to work better when the data is given some sensible structure for the task at hand. Even if a good structure isn't directly necessary for text generation, it's useful for understanding exactly what sorts of things can go wrong and what sorts of data you need to provide to get results you want. I ended up settling on 8 questions that seem to be good for getting a very comprehensive understanding of people: 1. What are they receptive to? 2. What kinds of thoughts do they have? 3. What kinds of goals do they set for themselves? 4. What do they believe? 5. What roles do they take on in life and in interactions? 6. What do they have strong emotions about? 7. How do they act on their emotions? 8. How do they believe things should work? I think questions like these can be useful for being very specific about what an AI gets right or wrong about a persona. It might even be possible to collect data on each of these 8 aspects. On thinking about what the most useful first steps would be for creating AI with a personality, any initial steps towards data collection seems like a great step forward. I don't know exactly how the data collection would work, but maybe there's a way to use natural language processing to extract candidate answers to these questions from fanfictions, show transcriptions, community discussions, and so on. It'd be really cool if that would let us create some sort of "persona dataset" for classifying and generating personas. From what I understand, it's not too difficult for an ML researcher to integrate basically any dataset into a text generation model. If anyone else has a different set of questions, it's be great to see that. (The download link in >>12299 seems to be broken.) Anything that helps us be more specific and more comprehensive about what exactly constitutes a persona seems worthwhile, especially since there seems to be so little academic work on the topic.

>>17248 Thanks, I had a similar idea, I guess. I was mainly thinking about personas in regards to limit the stored data on persons she knows. The robowaifu mind would have a concept of different personas and then forget details about persons she met over time, but keep them categorized as a certain type of person, or within a range of close types. This might of course also help from the start. Having a guess which kind of person someone is, and then adapting her behavior accordingly. >Anything that helps us be more specific and more comprehensive about what exactly constitutes a persona seems worthwhile Try not to overplan things. It just needs to be a framework which can be extended. It should of course also include race, gender, political tendencies, heritage and nationality, religion, etc. I'm sure we can find an article on Facebook and advertisers where they list what kinds of factors they care about, then some psychological classifications, sociological mileus, ... From there we can weed out the more important factors.

>>17257 >Try not to overplan things. It just needs to be a framework which can be extended. Part of this is just me trying to figure out my own thoughts on the topic. I think part of it is also that we have different use cases in mind. I'm thinking more of a one-on-one chatbot, where things like race, politics, heritage, nationality, and religion don't play a big role, at least not for me. Do these play a big role in one-on-one discussions for other people? >I'm sure we can find an article on Facebook and advertisers where they list what kinds of factors they care about Keep in mind that they'll deliberately avoid using or suggesting some important things for legal and reputation reasons. Some big ones not on your list include age, parental status, income, occupation, and education. The search term for this is "demographics". When it comes to creating lists like this, I find GPTs to be very useful. I gave https://20b.eleuther.ai/ this input: >Best demographics for targetting a message: >- Gender >- Politics >- Cultural background >- Religion >- Age >- Parental status >- Income

>Give me an exhaustive list of all psychological traits and personality traits, which are being used to describe and diagnose humans. ChatGPT: Describing an exhaustive list of all psychological traits and personality traits used to describe and diagnose humans is challenging, as there are numerous theories, models, and assessments in the field of psychology. However, I can provide you with a comprehensive list of commonly recognized traits: 1. Extraversion 2. Introversion 3. Neuroticism 4. Emotional Stability 5. Openness to Experience 6. Conscientiousness 7. Agreeableness 8. Honesty-Humility 9. Empathy 10. Resilience 11. Assertiveness 12. Self-Esteem

>>23495 >>Give me an exhaustive list of all psychological traits and personality traits, which are being used to describe and diagnose humans. Excellent prompt, NoidoDev. GG.

>>23235 I'm curious why the seams are rendering with a jagged edge like that Anon. Any idea?

>>23238 Because polygons are triangles. When you delete vertices you're left with pointy triangles. :^)

>>23391 Neat. Thanks.

>>23393 New one, going to be Copyleft once finished.

Here my current plan for AI hardware: - I ordered a used K80 with 2x12 GB recently, a used one of course, for 100$/95€ shipping included. It's an old GPU, only supported by older CUDA versions and might not run quantified models. Uses much energy, but it's two GPUs with 12GB each. I plan to pair this one after a while with a RTX3060 (12GB, 300€ used or 400€ new I think) in one home server. Context: https://technical.city/en/video/Tesla-K80m-vs-GeForce-RTX-3060 - That one, will then run my 12GB models. For fine tuning, or models which don't run on the K80, I would use the 3060. I don't know yet if I can somehow joint them together and use 3x12GB through the bus. It just seems to need some software support in these programs for running models at home. - I plan to use online services like Colab to learn about how to run these things, but have the K80 for more private data and learning how to do these things at home. - Then I'll get some SBCs, most likely Orange PI's, which can run small models of Whisper (speech regocnition). Also, another small home server with a Intel Arc380 (140-160€), which is fast enough to run the big and better model of Whisper at the speed of one fast human speaker. It does this quite energy efficient. These devices will not run anything else, for security reasons, and be connected to microphones which will be always on. The server will receive the audio through the SBCs from all rooms using the home network (likely on a VPN using Tinc). All of them will send the transcripts to some server in my network which can then decide how to respond. Most likely filtering first for which data is more sensitive than others. - Some small device, like a Raspi, will maybe handle responses based on AIML or using some small model. - Questions which don't contain private information might be send to OpenAI or another service. - The next step up will be getting a M40 (180€) and then a used RTX3090 (700-800€ right now I think), putting them in another home server at some point. Of course I might use this one for gaming till I get even the next GPU. These can handle the models which need 24 GB. The 3090 will do the fine tuning if I want to do that, since it has more power, while the M40 doesn't need as much energy. Context: https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-RTX-3090-vs-Tesla-M40-24-GB - Then the next step might be getting a AMD XTX (1k-1.2k€) if it's supported well enough for AI by this time. I can use this one for gaming and then put the 3090 in a home server with the M40. If it's possible to combine cards using PCI express, then it might be interesting to think about getting another XTX later, and have 48GB vRAM. - But I hope that either Intel or AMD will come out with a prosumer or consumer card for AI at home, which is rather slow but has 48GB and is not too expensive. (If you buy K80 or M40 on Ebay make sure not to buy the 12GB versions by accident while only looking at the price. They aren't much cheaper. K80 should have 2x12GB and the M40 24GB.)

>>23346 I hope the K80 works for you. I was thinking of getting two but the support for them seems abysmal. They used to be $200 used before shipping. Colab isn't what it used to be either. The free version will boot you off in 30 minutes sometimes or a few hours into training with Pro unless you pay big for compute credits. You're much better off running your own JupyterLab notebook or renting an instance off vast.ai or runpod.io if you don't have access to a GPU.

>>23351 >support for them seems abysmal. I think you need old versions of the software, but I also remember some people taking care of that, to support old GPUs. I might need to compile some of it myself, though. I hope it works out, but the risk isn't very high. >They used to be $200 used before shipping. They're down to $60-70 before shipping now. Some recommend to go straight for the M40, which is much newer, but $120-130 before shipping. >JupyterLab notebook or renting an instance off vast.ai or runpod.io if you don't have access to a GPU. Right, I forgot about those while writing this.

>>23346 Good luck, NoidoDev!

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