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Speech Synthesis/Recognition general Robowaifu Technician 09/13/2019 (Fri) 11:25:07 No.199 [Reply] [Last]
We want our robowaifus to speak to us right? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_synthesis https://archive.is/xxMI4 research.spa.aalto.fi/publications/theses/lemmetty_mst/contents.html https://archive.is/nQ6yt The Taco Tron project: arxiv.org/abs/1703.10135 google.github.io/tacotron/ https://archive.is/PzKZd No code available yet, hopefully they will release it. github.com/google/tacotron/tree/master/demos

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>>44693 POTD Thanks for the encouraging eval, Anon! Cheers. :)
>>44693 >Only need hardware to catch up at this point. that always been the million dollar question This complaint is decades old. Even in the 1970s AI researchers were already saying the main bottleneck was computational power. Same thing in the 2000s when gaming companies kept saying “we just need better GPUs.” Guess we just do the best we can with what we have now. Let the future wonder what we could’ve done with better tech.
>>44706 I kinda worded that badly as i meant to say specifically hardware/physical robowaifus as opposed to software waifus tbh, i didn't mean compute power, which both needs. But yeah compute power... companies have been investing dozens of billions given that the chance of making a leap similar to gpt-2 to gpt-4 yet again without scientific breakthrough is very likely with simply more compute, but if after that leap it can't train itself that's where the sci-fi stuff stops if i have to guess. Anyway, here's some zero-shot cloning tests attached, converted to mp3 for upload, so i can pretend i'm still on-topic, lol: thep_calm.mp3 : orginal jp sample (9 second) thep_eng_hi.mp3 : jp -> eng test (omnivoice) thep_eng_tendou.mp3 : jp -> eng test 2 (omnivoice.cpp) It's jp -> eng so it's goofy compared to eng -> eng or jp -> jp but it's cool it's even a thing to begin with. It still feels like basic bitch vocaloid at times but it does get bits of the character's intonation from short, mid samples alone :D, no fine-tuning or long audio needed.
https://cactuscompute.com/blog/whistle Better than whisper, smaller than whisper, faster than whisper.
>>45570 Wow! This sounds exciting, Anon. This would be very handy on our smol 'edge computing AI' model. Thank you.

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R&D General NoidoDev ##eCt7e4 07/21/2023 (Fri) 15:25:47 No.24152 [Reply] [Last]
This is a thread to discuss smaller or general waifu building problems, solutions, proposals and questions that don't warrant a thread or touch on more than one topic. In a way this is a technical meta, minus news. Keep it technical. A lot of topics in the old thread here >>83 have a thread on their own by now. The main topics in the old thread with the link to the related dedicated threads are listed here - it was mostly about actuation at the beginning: Topics in the old OP: - liquid battery and cooling in one (flow batteries) >>5080 - artificial muscles (related to actuators >>12810) - high level and low level intelligence emulation (AI) (related to AI >>77 >>22 >>250 >>27 >>201) - wear and maintenance, including repairs - sanitation >>1627 (related to actuators >>12810) > cheap hydraulic and pneumatic muscles > woven sleeves out of strong nylon fishing line > exhaust excess heat by breathing and panting (related to thermal management >>234) >>1635 (related to energy systems >>5080) > sitting in her 'recharging chair'

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special tools that are also easily found https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8B-yw9JuQUw
Lol, I can't figure out where this should even go here so I guess this thread is the best compromise. www.rfcafe.com/index.htm Somewhat humorous, web 1.0, mostly electronics-ish -style magazine like thing. Not sure if it's even maintained today.
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>>45074 Your link is broken, so here is a tachikoma from like 4 years ago (it is slow and derp but looks nice) on pootube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGekn_74EHM
>>45581 It works if you copy it directly and make sure there is no l in html. Weird I know
>>45581 Very cool! Thanks, Mechnomancer. --- btw, dear SPUD needs her new thread! :)
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My Advanced Realistic Humanoid Robot Project - Eve Artbyrobot 04/18/2024 (Thu) 17:44:09 No.30954 [Reply] [Last]
So far I have plans to build Adam, Eve, and Abel robots. All of these are Bible characters. This thread will cover the Eve robot. Eve will have no "love holes" because adding those would be sinful and evil. It is a robot, not a biological woman after all and I will view her with all purity of heart and mind instead of using her to fulfill my lusts of my body. Instead I will walk by the Spirit no longer fulfilling the lusts of the flesh as the Bible commands. Eve will be beautiful because making her beautiful is not a sinful thing to do. However, I will dress her modestly as God commands of all women everywhere. This would obviously include robot women because otherwise the robot woman would be a stumbling block to men which could cause them to lust after her which would be a sin. To tempt someone to sin is not loving and is evil and so my robot will not do this. To dress her in a miniskirt, for example, would be sinful and evil and all people who engage in sinfullness knowingly are presently on their way to hell. I don't wish this for anyone. My robot will dress in a way that is a good example to all women and is aimed toward not causing anybody to lust as a goal. My robot will have a human bone structure. It will use either a PVC medical skeleton or fiberglass fabricated hollow bones. My robot will look realistic and move realistic. It will be able to talk, walk, run, do chores, play sports, dance, rock climb, and do gymnastics. It will also be able to build more robots just like itself and manufacture other products and inventions. I realized with just a head and arm, a robot can build the rest of its own body so that is my intention. My robot will use BLDC motors for drones, RC, and scooters that are high speed and low-ish torque but I will downgear those motors with a archimedes pulley system that will be custom made from custom fabricated pulleys that will be bearings based. By downgearing with pulleys, instead of gears, I will cut down the noise the robot makes so it will be as silent as possible for indoor use. By downgearing, I convert the high speed motors into moderate speeds with great torque. BLDC motors with large torque generally are too large in diameter for a human form factor and take up too much volumetric area to be useful which is why I go with the high speed smaller diameter type motors but just heavily downgear them 32:1 and 64:1. My robot will have realistic silicone skin. Thom Floutz -LA based painter, sculptor, make-up artist is my inspiration as it pertains to realistic skin. The skin for my robots has to be at his level to be acceptable. It must be nearly impossible to tell the robot is not human to be acceptable. I will have a wireframe mesh exoskeleton that simulates the volumes and movements of muscle underneath the skin which will give the skin its volumetric form like muscles do. Within these hollow wireframe mesh frameworks will be all the electronics and their cooling systems. All of my motor controllers will be custom made since I need them VERY small to fit into the confined spaces I have to work with. I need LOADS of motors to replace every pertinent muscle of the human body in such a way that the robot can move in all the ways humans move and have near human level of strength and speed.

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Thanks for the detailed breakdowns, Artbyrobot! a) I'm quite pleased to see you adopting a standard for your "long-distance trunk" wiring. (USB) b) Morse(-ish) is clearly a very tried-and-true way of doing text communications (potentially a little slow, but probably trivially so in this set of cases). The communications reliability is right up there! c) Simple set of programmable logic states. Simple is good. d) Implicit provision for future expansion of command sets. <---> I like everything you've said so far with one exception: >"...arduino that is going to be monitoring a shunt resistor and reading by that means the current being pulled by the motor and thereby know if the joint has collided with something due to current spikes that would happen in that case." This seems like both a risky approach from a safety perspective and also from a hardware wear perspective -- at least as the primary form of collision prediction/avoidance/detection schema. As a final safety failsafe fallback it's OK-ish. Any other alternatives you can think of for this set of needs? Regardless, again, thanks for keeping us all up to date with your progress Anon! Cheers.
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>>45251 >current spikes are not the best way for collision detection why not? in any case the primary way is the computer vision. It should map its environment and prediction collisons based on knowledge of what is around it that is gained visually. The collision detection mechanisms beyond that primary are for cases where it doesn't know its about to hit something because it was blind sided. Like humans, if we are looking away from something and we trip on it or w/e because we did not see it. Unlike us, I don't think it will "feel" things from its skin having countless pain receptors or w/e and I don't know how to make something like that. And that seems pretty complex. But I did mention strain gauges in fingertips those will detect collision of finger tips with targets and I can place some strategically throughout the body to do the same thing. But I can only have so many of those really. They are hard to deal with and tedious to make and install. But they are another way. Just can't put millions of them everywhere though. But they can be like "feeling" things it hits though. And can measure how hard it is pressing on the thing it hits too. So those are two ways besides the current spike method. Also desynchronization/skippage events of rotor and stator gets picked up by mismatch between expected joint angle and actual joint angle which can indicate a collision so that's another way. So there are several ways. I just am not sure I get why you are very anti-current sensing as a way.
>>45260 Hmm. Perhaps I overstated my position, or you misunderstood me Anon? Regardless, my primary concern on your behalf for such an approach is hardware wear on the robot's systems, and your human safety should such a scheme fail. Simple as.
So I realized embedded development is a whole field in itself. I had been listening to the embedded podcast for years and didn't realize until deep into my embedded programming project that I was entering that whole field unknowingly. They speak of oscilloscopes, debuggers, and all kinds of stuff. I don't have any of that. My goal is to simply code the software for my electronic speed controller microcontroller unit in Dev C++ and have it say things like ----- cout << "hello world"; ---- as test code to ensure all logic flows well, running it on my windows desktop. Then once it is all finished and perfect I can attempt to run it on the microcontroller by first commenting out all windows specific code and uncommenting out all microcontroller specific code. To do this mass commenting and uncommenting, I realized I could use the "find and replace" command. So for all windows code I use: /*-*/cout << "initializing microcontroller of ESC now\n"; /*-*/system("Pause"); and this acts as a non functioning comment since it only comments out the hyphen but can later be replaced via find and replace command with //-/ instead which will make it act as a actual commented out line. Then for all microcontroller specific code, it is actually commented out but does so like this: // Set P1.0/HIN1 latch LOW //-/P1 &= 0xFE; note that // Set P1.0/HIN1 latch LOW is a normal comment that will go unchanged between versions but ----- //-/P1 &= 0xFE; ---- is a actual comment that is distinct from a normal comment since it has -/ after the normal // which means that I can find and replace it with /*-*/ for the microcontroller specific build of the code. So with just two find and replace commands we can hot swap the whole codebase from microsoft windows runnable version to MCU runnable version. And we can jump back and forth whenever to fix things, test things, run tests on windows and on MCU whenever we want.
>>45583 Cool! Yes, the programming languages C & C++ are quite different languages (despite what some [apparently] uninformed professors & authors may think). I'd recommend you look at our C thread : ( >>367 ) (sadly, much/most of the thread was lost during the 8ch debacle transition here to my jewish mother->Alogs) for some good basic ideas to the commonplace approaches for embedded development. I'm personally working through the book Bare Metal C, which goes much more in-depth on this general topic. Good luck, Artbyrobot. Cheers. --- >oscilloscopes BTW, you can get cheap little ones now that fit in your pocket. They are just fine for basic work. IIRC, mine cost me less than US$80. I'll try to remember and include it in a future photo of the CartWaifu project.
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Robotics Hardware General Robowaifu Technician 09/10/2019 (Tue) 06:21:04 No.81 [Reply]
Servos, Actuators, Structural, Mechatronics, etc.

You can't build a robot without robot parts tbh. Please post good resources for obtaining or constructing them.

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Broad supply of hardware, etc. https://www.mcmaster.com/
>Biomimetic Humanoid Robots & Artificial Muscles | Ian Pritchard https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFBCGiD6ZoM
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>FiberMotor: a flexible linear coaxial electrostatic motor in fiber format https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lANIMRoOJeo
>>45520 POTD Wow this looks like it could have amazing potential for us and for humanoid/robotics in general. It seems like we could even figure out how wind/manufacture these as DIY projects. Thanks, Anon! Cheers. :D --- >related: https://advanced.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/adma.75156 https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/thread/26.html#1673
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>>45521 saw the video and read the comments - which point out every reason - and there are many - that these are a non starter for any robotics application

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Single board computers & microcontrollers Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 05:06:55 No.16 [Reply] [Last]
Robotic control and data systems can be run by very small and inexpensive computers today. Please post info on SBCs & micro-controllers. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-board_computer https://archive.is/0gKHz beagleboard.org/black https://archive.is/VNnAr >=== -combine 'microcontrollers' into single word
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Integrated kits like this are fun & useful. I already have a few. Now I'm planning to get the advanced version of this one when I've saved up the money for it (sometime this year is my plan rn). https://www.elecrow.com/crowpi-3-ai-learning-and-development-station.html
Raspberry Pi has made some notable changes to their public product lineup since I first started using them years ago. Its been a while since I looked it over. Especially the single-chip & embedded-focused designs are intredasting for us here, I think. www.raspberrypi.com/products/ --- > related : ( >>4969 )
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Very informative video for those new to hardware comparisons https://youtu.be/rPGJhrunbxo Galatea and SPUD are in the Mini Computers Class. Her Raspberry Pi setup is actually a lot like SPUD
>>45526 This woman is incredibly annoying to listen to. Just imagine having to do that all day. Every day.
>>45530 I disagree, but you can watch the video on mute with subtitles on

C++ General Robowaifu Technician 09/09/2019 (Mon) 02:49:55 No.12 [Reply] [Last]
C++ Resources general The C++ programming language is currently the primary AI-engine language in use. >browsable copy of the latest C++ standard draft: https://eel.is/c++draft/ >where to learn C++: ( >>35657 ) >The history of C++: ( >>45161 ) isocpp.org/get-started https://archive.is/hp4JR stackoverflow.com/questions/388242/the-definitive-c-book-guide-and-list

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>"The Beman Project >Tomorrow's C++ Standard Libraries Today" >mentioned in ( >>45220 ). https://bemanproject.org/ https://github.com/bemanproject An evolution of the Boost project; intended to streamline C++ Standard library inclusions going forward.
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>"C++26: A Curated Tour of What's New - Marc Gregoire - CppCon 2026" https://redirect.invidious.io/watch?v=ak1zrDo2y-U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak1zrDo2y-U Really good 10'000ft overview of the new features of C++26. The exhaustive list is yuge, and this is only a subset. But its a really good subset, and Gregoire is an important member of the Committee who understands the topic well. Recommended if you're an active C++ developer.
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ITT: Anons derail the board into debate about Christianity :^) Robowaifu Technician 04/02/2020 (Thu) 02:24:54 No.2050 [Reply] [Last]
I found this project and it looks interesting. Robots wives appeal to me because i'm convinced human woman and humans in general have flaws that make having close relationships with them a waste of energy. I'm a pathetic freshman engineering student who knows barely anything about anything. Honestly, I think current technology isn't at a place that could produce satisfying results for me at least. I'd like something better than an actual person, not a compromise. Even then the technology is there, I have my doubts it'll be affordable to make on your own. Fingers crossed though. Anyway, what kind of behavior would you like from your robot wife? I'd like mine to be unemotional, lacking in empathy, stoic and disinterested in personal gain or other people. I think human woman would be improved if they were like that. Sorry if this thread is inappropriate.
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On how paganism is just edgy new atheism
>>45266 What's funny is that he blocked me shortly after. Such cowardice from a great warrior of odin
>>45266 >>45267 I have a simple philosophical & theological analogy for such attempts by the enemy to dissuade ppl (believers in-particular, if he could manage it) away from the singular truth of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, the risen Son of God come in the flesh; imagine the pursuit of truth as being a big bullseye target, which people launch their own thoughts & ideas at: there can be a million misses onto that target... a billion lies... (any of which Satan the deceiver may be directly involved with). But the simple fact is there is only One perfectly aligned, dead-center spot. So, Truth with a capital ' T '. * >tl;dr Its always 'endless genealogies' with these kikes & kike tools, GreerTech. I'd direct you to the section in Mein Kampf where Adolf Hitler described the (endlessly) fruitless attempts to debate with such folk. [1] And if they are fundamentally dishonest & deceptive (the very definition of a kike, AFAICT), then why should you think they would ever acknowledge the Truth regardless? [2] >ttl;dr Just walk away is my best advice in this specific case. But if you are attempting to pursue the benefit of others through such discourses, then be led by the Holy Spirit's guidance alone in it -- not your own will or pride. God's guidance will always strengthen you; human folly will always weaken you. May God bless you with His Wisdom in such things, Anon. Cheers. :) --- * BTW, there are no """versions""" of the truth!! :D 1. A passage very often quoted within redpilled circles:

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An interesting interview done at RTB: >"What Every Christian Needs to Know About AI" * https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzH6gu90mz4&list=PLUwTeBAi_JFG-J6mqU3em0LV7pFUiq9wp --- A general Christian apologetics -focused AI chatbot as an exemplar (need I remind any'non here that this thing a) is not God, and b) is not even a Christian? :D: https://apologist.ai/ --- * related; mentioned during show: "Is AI Merely Artificial Imitation?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZWIWnQEnvE&list=PLUwTeBAi_JFG-J6mqU3em0LV7pFUiq9wp
> This is Derek Prince with a word for you from the Word. > “Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God. For a thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by or like a watch in the night.” (Psalm 90:2, 4 NIV) > That’s the difference between time and eternity, the mountains were born, the earth and the world were brought forth, that’s a past tense. But when the psalmist turns to God he says, “From everlasting to everlasting you are God.” Not, “You were God,” but “You are God.” With God there is never a past tense, never a future tense. God doesn’t indwell time; He indwells eternity. Eternity is not just a very long period of time; it’s a different mode of being. It’s something from another world. It’s higher than time. With God it’s always, you are. His name is, “I AM.” And from the serenity and the heights of eternity He beholds time. > The psalmist says that “a thousand years with God are just like a day that’s gone by or a watch in the night.” The night, in biblical times, was divided into four watches of three hours each, so a thousand years with God is just like three hours that have passed in our experience. That’s what it is to be related to God. It’s to have a relationship that extends out of time into eternity, that’s not subject to the changes and fluctuations of time, that’s anchored in the very being of God Himself. www.derekprince.com/word/c-w063

Business, Finance, Organizations, Operations, Logistics, & Legal Thread Greentext anon 07/04/2025 (Fri) 04:40:32 No.39717 [Reply] [Last]
This thread is for discussing potential robowaifu startups, everything required to make them work, and pitfalls to avoid when operating. Potential topics to discuss: >How much money is really needed for a robowaifu startup? >What needs to be done to ensure solvency and growth? >How to navigate (or circumvent) government red-tape? >How to deal with tariffs and import/export restrictions? >How to keep the work environment safe and secure? >How to manage presence and public opinion? >Which countries would be the easiest to work with? Hardest? >How to manage legal needs and work with lawyers? When discussing, keep in mind that not all nations are equal and may have different benefits and challenges in respect to all of these concerns. <---> Please Stay On-topic ITT

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>>41269 Don't get me wrong, I would absolutely love for it to completely anonymous, and if it can be done, that would be amazing, but as far as I know, with a completely anonymous system, you basically have to communicate and decide beforehand that you're sending money, and that money is coming from you. That would be hard to do on a mass scale, since you would just see a wave of anonymous recipients, and nowhere to send the product. Maybe on the blockchain you can have a system where you can analyze the blockchain for the ledgers, and be able to send files?
Very interesting perspective on how Japan avoids credit card monopolies https://youtube.com/shorts/q7Ph1vaE8kQ
>>43575 >post about a way to break the payment processor monopoly >immediate fed you-know-what posting hmmmmm
>>43575 Similar, a list of ways to do commerce online without payment processors
>>44757 Updated manual

Virtual Waifus and Holowaifus GreerTech 01/09/2026 (Fri) 05:44:19 No.43578 [Reply] [Last]
Thoughts on waifus which remain 2D/virtual but have their own dedicated hardware and AI. This is more on the artistry/visual design side though AI and high-tech is still involved. Examples of an actual waifu product are the Gatebox and Code27 https://www.gatebox.ai/ https://www.code27.co/ My favorite fictional example is Cortana from Halo Another good fictional example is Ritsu, she's a cute ai from Assassination Classroom whose body is a giant screen on wheels. Another good IRL example is the game MyRobot https://sgthale.itch.io/myrobot Previous thread >>240 Thumbnail source: https://www.deviantart.com/halomika/art/Cortana-Halo-4-426713488
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I've been slacking off on this thread, but I've been pretty busy. I'd like to get back into this a bit more, so let's start with some news: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3nJcwuthDk&t=154 Of course it's Meta, so it's guaranteed to be full of spyware bullshit. But VR/AR visors are still an area where motivated smaller developers could compete with big tech. I always thought it would be cool if cyberdecks started competing with mass-produced traditional laptops and phones too, but that's a fever dream for many reasons.
>>45382 I'm glad VR glasses are becoming more practical. This will definitely advance VR gaming. I can't wait until other people make them. >I always thought it would be cool if cyberdecks started competing with mass-produced traditional laptops and phones too The problem is that cyberdecks have no use-case for 99% of people, and are just a cyberpunk LARP project for "makers". However, a cyberdeck-style laptop would be very nice. What's needed is a cyberdeck smartphone. I would also want an "AI core" for Galatea, with an activation word.
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>>45386 >cyberpunk LARP project I've increasingly come to the conclusion that almost everything about cyberpunk is a LARP. Most self-described cyberpunks don't have any programming or hacking skills, being nothing but passive consumers of Big Tech products, and most of those who do sold out to globohomo while still laughably portraying themselves as anti-establishment. That meme where the millennial who's in total agreement with the media, academia and corporations about every major issue but still thinks he's the resistance describes just about every "cyberpunk" I've ever seen. Cyber augmentation turned out to only be useful for restoring lost functionality, not giving yourself superhuman powers. But then hilariously, when AI turned out to be one of the few parts of cyberpunk tech that wasn't vaporware, they immediately started seething about it. Also, there have been some great new AI art models released recently, so I decided to redo my holowaifu concept art. It's not much, but I thought it was nice.
>>45387 Very pretty waifu rendering, HoloAnon! >Think different...just like the rest of us! Lol. Tale as old as time. :D

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Business and Marketing GreerTech 09/03/2025 (Wed) 21:58:34 No.41055 [Reply]
A thread to discuss topics such as, potential products, marketing, consumer demand, customer bases, robowaifus on the market, etc...
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>>42534 Good thinking, Anon.
The wisest thing to do is to learn from both your friends AND enemies The Art of the Deal 1. Think big 2. Protect the downside and the upside will take care of itself (prepare for the worst) 3. Maximize the options 4. Know your market 5. Use your leverage 6. Enhance your location 7. Get the word out 8. Fight back 9. Deliver the goods 10. Contain the costs 11. Have fun Rules for Radicals 1."Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have."

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>>43183 I'd say thats good wisdom, GreerTech. Thanks! :^)
I've discussed this before, but I fully believe we need to have our robowaifus do other tasks. Not only will it help immensely with acceptance, it will also help with people deciding if they want to spend money on buying it. In this economic age, an emotional/sexual luxury would be a hard sell.
>>45396 Probably a good point, GreerTech. I'm pretty sure most of us here intend such capabilities for our robowaifus already, so we're basically in a good position for that strategically-speaking.

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