The original thread can be found here: https://trashchan.xyz/robowaifu/thread/595.html --- Welcome to the Lemon Cookie thread, The goal of Lemon Cookie is to create a framework where a synthetic "mind and soul" can emerge through a "LLM as cognitive architecture" approach. This thread exists to collect feedback, ask for help & to document my progress. First I am going to try to give a high level overview of how this cognitive architecture is envisioned and the ideas behind it. I have spent time looking at cognitive architecture work, in the field there is now a consensus on how the mind works at a high level. An important mechanism is a "whiteboard", basically a global temporary memory that all the other systems read in and out of. Then there is different long-term memory systems that react to and add content to the whiteboard. Along with memory pattern matcher(s)/rules work on the content of the whiteboard. A key thing to consider is the difference in philosophy that cognitive architecture projects have, the intelligence is considered to emerge from the entire system. Compare this to LLM agent work where it's considered the intelligence is the LLM. My feelings on the general LLM space are conflicted, I am both amazed and really disappointed. LLMs possess an incredible level of flexibility, world knowledge and coherence. But everything outside of the model is stagnant. It's endless API wrappers & redundant frameworks all slight permutations on RAG & basic tool calling. I will believe that LLMs are misused as chatbots, simply put their pattern matching and associative power is constrained by chat format and shallow tooling. In the Lemon Cookie Cognitive Architecture so far here are the important aspects: 1. Memory is difficult. I do not think there is a singular data structure or method that is able to handle it all, several distinct types of memory will be needed. So far I plan for a PathRAG like system and a "Triadic Memory" inspired system for external associations (this is missing in most LLM solutions). 2. LLM as Kernel, The LLM's context window is the Whiteboard and has a REPL like mechanism. It holds structured data and logic in scripting-like format so it's both LLM & Human readable while staying easy to parse & allows for expressive structured data. The LLM's role will be to decompose data and make patterns and associations explicit as executable statements. 3. The language has to be LLM/CogArch-centric. There is a thousand ""agents"" that give LLMs a python interpreter as a tool. The two need to be more tightly coupled. Scripted behavior via pattern matching, The whiteboard is a bag of objects, this allows for programmable pattern matching (think functional programming like Haskell). It's also important to allow the LLM to observe code execution and to be able to modify state and execution flow. Data in languages have scoping rules, so should LLM context. Etc... I will go into more depth about the language in another post. 4. Another important system is the "GSR" Generative Sparse Representation and it will be a first class language & runtime type, This also needs its own post. But in general I am inspired by two things, "Generative FrameNet" paper where an LLM & an embedding model is used to automatically construct new FrameNet frames. The second source is "Numenta's SDRs"/"Sparse distributed memory" this representation has a lot of useful properties for memory (Please watch the videos under the "What the hell is an SDR?" segment in my links list for an easy introduction.) I think SDR unions & SDR noise tolerance will be especially useful. 5. A custom model, For all of the above to work well, a model will need to be fine tuned with special behaviors. I do want input on this. Baking facts & behaviors into LLM weights is costly, creating bloated models that are hard to run or train (why memorize all the capitals?), while letting authors gatekeep truth and impose "safety" detached from context. Blocking role-play "violence" or intimacy isn't protection: it's authors hijacking your AI companion to preach at you. Externalizing behaviors via whiteboard pattern matching shifts control: stabbing you in-game can be funny, but a robot wielding a knife isn't. Maybe you want intimacy privately, but don't want your AI flirting back at your friends. When put together I think this will be able to host a kind of synthetic "soul", In a living being what we call a personality is the accumulated associations, learned behaviors, beliefs and quirks molded by a unique set of experiences. I hope this will be true for this system too.

>Why organize IRL? This community is great and many individuals are already making progress on their prototypes. However this endeavor is not a one man job and organizing IRL would give better opportunities for collaboration and skill sharing/development. >Where should we organize? I propose we organize within a seven hour radius of Chicago. This would include the major cities of Milwaukee WI, St Louis MO, Detroit MI, Indianapolis IN, Louisville KY, Cleveland OH, Cincinnati OH, Columbus OH, Pittsburgh PA, Nashville TN, and Minneapolis MN. There are plenty of opportunities for jobs and universities in these cities. In particular Chicago has a booming tech industry with Google even moving their HQ to the city and the electronics manufacturing and biotech sectors are pretty good too and Detroit MI has pretty good robotics industry although it might not be the best place to live. Another wonderful thing about this area is that most of these homes have basements that could be turned into workshops. >How would this all be organized I propose a fraternity system. A fraternity would help build community and give us a vehicle to recruit others from STEM and skilled trades (machinists especially) The organization could also host a scholarship to help us build talent. Anons with enough money for a down payment could buy homes in the area and rent to below market rate to anons moving in. Different homes could specialize on different projects and collaborate and share equipment and skills with others nearby. What do you think /robowaifu/?

Vagoo. I can't speak for anyone but myself but I'd like to get.. intimate with my fembot. I'd like to know what my options are for her robopussy. I was thinking something like a flesh light with sensors that triggers voice and arm action. I'm using Myrobotlab is Anyone familiar with it?

Robosex general I guess

M boy need so many booboo why not just give them otherwise it ll explode like the old chinese emperor or something not getting involved going away giving up some things,trash and whatnot >=== -add thread subject

>"And as you wish that others would do to you, do so to them."[1] >-t. Jesus Christ I propose this thread to be a narrowly-scoped discussion on the OP's topic; informed primarily by 2 Christian-themed writings, and by our own efforts & practical insights in developing robowaifus : I. In Mere Christianity, C.S. Lewis asserts that all men "...have the Law of God written on their hearts."[2][3][4] This is certainly affirmed by various passages in the Holy Scriptures, as well. II. In The City of God, Aurelius Augustine of Hippo writes >"And yet they have within themselves something which they could not see: they represented to themselves inwardly things which they had seen without, even when they were not seeing them, but only thinking of them. But this representation in thought is no longer a body, but only the similitude of a body; and that faculty of the mind by which this similitude of a body is seen is neither a body nor the similitude of a body; and the faculty which judges whether the representation is beautiful or ugly is without doubt superior to the object judged of. >"This principle is the understanding of man, the rational soul; and it is certainly not a body, since that similitude of a body which it beholds and judges of is itself not a body. The soul is neither earth, nor water, nor air, nor fire, of which four bodies, called the four elements, we see that this world is composed. And if the soul is not a body, how should God, its Creator, be a body?[5][6][7] Now, starting from the fundamental basis & belief (a priori w/ no defenses given pertaining to it >tl;dr let's not descend into debate on this point, merely discuss the implications of it, kthx :^) that this immaterial, moral law inscribed on each of our hearts by God literally serves as the foundational stone for all good ethics & all good moralities out there; I'd like for us all lurkers, I'm looking at you! :^) to have a general discussion on: A) What does this all imply (and likely mean) regarding human behaviours within the general cultural/societal domain under discussion, and

Anything related to robowaifus, robotics, the AI industry, and any social/economic issues thereof. and /pol/ funposting containment bread! :D - Previous threads: > #1 ( >>404 ) > #2 ( >>16732 ) > #3 ( >>21140 ) > #4 ( >>24081 ) > #5 ( >>34233 )

So far I have plans to build Adam, Eve, and Abel robots. All of these are Bible characters. This thread will cover the Eve robot. Eve will have no "love holes" because adding those would be sinful and evil. It is a robot, not a biological woman after all and I will view her with all purity of heart and mind instead of using her to fulfill my lusts of my body. Instead I will walk by the Spirit no longer fulfilling the lusts of the flesh as the Bible commands. Eve will be beautiful because making her beautiful is not a sinful thing to do. However, I will dress her modestly as God commands of all women everywhere. This would obviously include robot women because otherwise the robot woman would be a stumbling block to men which could cause them to lust after her which would be a sin. To tempt someone to sin is not loving and is evil and so my robot will not do this. To dress her in a miniskirt, for example, would be sinful and evil and all people who engage in sinfullness knowingly are presently on their way to hell. I don't wish this for anyone. My robot will dress in a way that is a good example to all women and is aimed toward not causing anybody to lust as a goal. My robot will have a human bone structure. It will use either a PVC medical skeleton or fiberglass fabricated hollow bones. My robot will look realistic and move realistic. It will be able to talk, walk, run, do chores, play sports, dance, rock climb, and do gymnastics. It will also be able to build more robots just like itself and manufacture other products and inventions. I realized with just a head and arm, a robot can build the rest of its own body so that is my intention. My robot will use BLDC motors for drones, RC, and scooters that are high speed and low-ish torque but I will downgear those motors with a archimedes pulley system that will be custom made from custom fabricated pulleys that will be bearings based. By downgearing with pulleys, instead of gears, I will cut down the noise the robot makes so it will be as silent as possible for indoor use. By downgearing, I convert the high speed motors into moderate speeds with great torque. BLDC motors with large torque generally are too large in diameter for a human form factor and take up too much volumetric area to be useful which is why I go with the high speed smaller diameter type motors but just heavily downgear them 32:1 and 64:1. My robot will have realistic silicone skin. Thom Floutz -LA based painter, sculptor, make-up artist is my inspiration as it pertains to realistic skin. The skin for my robots has to be at his level to be acceptable. It must be nearly impossible to tell the robot is not human to be acceptable. I will have a wireframe mesh exoskeleton that simulates the volumes and movements of muscle underneath the skin which will give the skin its volumetric form like muscles do. Within these hollow wireframe mesh frameworks will be all the electronics and their cooling systems. All of my motor controllers will be custom made since I need them VERY small to fit into the confined spaces I have to work with. I need LOADS of motors to replace every pertinent muscle of the human body in such a way that the robot can move in all the ways humans move and have near human level of strength and speed.

Why is it that no philosophers are interested in building an AGI? we need to change this, or at least collect relevant philosophers. discussion about philosophy of making AGI (includes metaphysics, transcendental psychology, general philosophy of mind topics, etc!) also highly encouraged! Ill start ^^! so the philosophers i know that take this stuff seriously: Peter Wolfendale - the first Neo-Rationalist on the list. his main contribution here is computational Kantianism. just by the name you can tell that he believes Kant's transcendental psychology has some important applications to designing an artificial mind. an interesting view regarding this is that he thinks Kant actually employed a logic that was far ahead of his time (and you basically need a sophisticated type theory with sheaves to properly formalize). Other than that he also thinks Kant has interesting solutions to the frame problem, origin of concepts, and personhood. CONTACTS: He has a blog at https://deontologistics.co/, and also has posted some lectures on youtube like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWDZyOWN4VA&ab_channel=deontologistics Reza Negarestani - this is another Neo-Rationalist. he has written a huge work (which I haven't read yet ;_;) called "Intelligence and Spirit". It's massive and talks about various grades of general intelligence. this includes sentient agents, sapient agents, and Geist. this guy draws from Kant as well, but he also builds on Hegel's ideas too. his central thesis is that Hegel's Geist is basically a distributed intelligence. he also has an interesting metaphilosophy where he claims that the goal of philosophy is the construct an AGI. like other Neo-Rationalists, he heavily relies on the works of Sellars and Robert Brandom Recc: Ray Brassier (recent focuses) - I dont think he is working on artificial general intelligence, but his work on Sellars, and in particular rule following is very insightful! Hubert Dreyfus - Doesn't quite count, but he did try to bring Heidegger to AGI. He highlighted the importance of embodiment to the frame problem and common sense knowledge. I personally think Bergson might have explicated what he wanted to achieve but better, though that guy is like way before AI was even a serious topic, lol. Murray Shanahan - This guy has done some extra work on the frame problem following Dreyfus. His solution is to use global workspace theory and parralel processing of different modules. Interesting stuff! Barry Smith - Probably the most critical philosopher on this list. He talks about the requisite system dynamics for try strong AI, and concludes that our current methods simply don't cut it. One of the key stressing points he points out here with a colleague is that our current AI is Markovian when fleshed out chat dialogue would be a non-Markovian task (you can find the arxiv link of his criticism here: https://arxiv.org/abs/1906.05833). He also has knowledge on analytic ontology (and amongst other thing has some lectures about emotion ontology). I think his main genius however is in coming up with a definition of intelligence that puts a lot of the problems with our current approaches into context (which can be found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0giPMMoKR9s&ab_channel=BarrySmith) CONTACTS: He has a yt channel here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0giPMMoKR9s&ab_channel=BarrySmith

A thread to discuss topics such as, potential products, marketing, consumer demand, customer bases, robowaifus on the market, etc...

This is a thread to discuss smaller or general waifu building problems, solutions, proposals and questions that don't warrant a thread or touch on more than one topic. In a way this is a technical meta, minus news. Keep it technical. A lot of topics in the old thread here >>83 have a thread on their own by now. The main topics in the old thread with the link to the related dedicated threads are listed here - it was mostly about actuation at the beginning: Topics in the old OP: - liquid battery and cooling in one (flow batteries) >>5080 - artificial muscles (related to actuators >>12810) - high level and low level intelligence emulation (AI) (related to AI >>77 >>22 >>250 >>27 >>201) - wear and maintenance, including repairs - sanitation >>1627 (related to actuators >>12810) > cheap hydraulic and pneumatic muscles > woven sleeves out of strong nylon fishing line > exhaust excess heat by breathing and panting (related to thermal management >>234) >>1635 (related to energy systems >>5080) > sitting in her 'recharging chair'