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Sophie Bot STL Files Uploaded Robowaifu enthusiast 07/15/2020 (Wed) 20:08:20 No.4198 [Reply]
I need to sort out her CAD files more before uploading them, but the .STLs are ready. Link to Google Drive shared folder: https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/folders/1xWilMfWDZnrt30E1Uw7hlWe6JmaigKQF
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not sure what this link was, but without any context and using a url shortener im assuming its cp if this was something on topic, my apologies, but with all these cp bots trying to advertise here we have to be careful
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>>22974 Its literately google drive
>>22974 I take it you rm'd a link for us? That's fine if it was suspicious looking, thanks! :^) So, if you were a legitimate poster from our board, please at least explain what a link is, if it's otherwise unclear to an uninitiate. Thanks. >>22975 >Its literately google drive Not having seen it, I can't confirm this one way or another. But I'm uncertain that 'it's G*ogle' is a solid validation Anon.
>>22975 If it was, my bad, since it was behind a link shortener I couldn't tell. Just a single line of text explaining what it was would have been enough for me to tell it was human though. >>22978 Yeah just a single link run through a link shortener, many of which we've outright filtered at this point simply because of how badly the cp posters abuse them. While we obviously won't ban link shorteners, if you're gonna use them making clear it's posted by a human is a good idea, since otherwise it looks nearly identical to the cp bots.
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>>22979 Got it. Thanks Gator. :^)

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Acclaim Your (Robo)waifu General! Robowaifu Technician 12/10/2022 (Sat) 02:38:59 No.18090 [Reply] [Last]
This is a thread to share pics & praise & approval of your (robo)waifus. Please keep it SFW, thanks Anon! warning warning warning Just b/c you've acclaimed your robowaifu ITT, doesn't mean that another anon might not also acclaim her here too. This is perfectly-acceptable! :^) >(For example: Chii is my own robowaifu-prime, but literally millions of others also love her. It's fine b/c after all, we'll be making many IRL ones. My own edition of her will still be personal & tuned just for me.) >t. Chobitsu >=== -revamp OP into a general
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>>22857 That's lovely DorothyAnon, thanks for sharing it here!
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>>22943 Who's the artist?
>>22954 piggomi, shes from an emmy the robot discord
>>22963 I see, thanks DorothyAnon!

Prototypes and Failures #3 NoidoDev ##eCt7e4 03/31/2023 (Fri) 19:20:29 No.21647 [Reply]
Post your prototypes and failures. We fail until we win. From now on with even more madness, while the prototypes are starting to look cute and have extras. Don't forget looking through the old threads here >>418 and here >>18800 to understand how we got to where we are now.
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>>22915 >>22916 >>22920 Good job Anon! Very wise following a tutorial you have good reason to believe works. >How should I celebrate? Since you're interested in Astronomy, I'd say go out to a dark site and ponder the universe for a while. :^)
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>>22922 Anon we need to talk. There's been too much talk about AI and nobody has yet done a decent cad file for the waifu. Where are the priorities here?
>>22934 Haha. Was it something I said? :^) >cad file OK you got me. What's a 'card file' for a (robo)waifu Anon?
>>22939 well you know... 3d files for the waifus various parts...
>>22940 >well you know... 3d files for the waifus various parts... Got it. So, I think we've had several anons here produce 3D files for the board. AFAICT, this is a ginormously-big systems engineering problem, and also-AFAICT no single entity has ever publicly released any full system-wide specs or prints, either. Please correct me if I'm wrong in this Anons. When we here manage it, we're likely to be the first in the world to do so. Regardless, we're pretty much off-topic. Please continue this in the current /meta if you'd care to, Anon. TIA. >=== -minor edit
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nandroid project Robowaifu Technician 01/29/2023 (Sun) 03:52:07 No.19226 [Reply] [Last]
over the last year I´ve worked on making a full scale nanny android (or nandroid for short, her name is "Emmy") over the last 10 months and decided to post the progress (this is a SFW project)
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>>22830 That is really coming together Emmy-Pilled. Nice job!
>>22832 gonna be a lot of glazed layers, so gonna set it to 75 ML. per batch
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blue glazing is done, now to the white parts
>>22928 What a great color-scheme this is looking to be for her, Emmy-Pilled. Nice work! :^)
>>22929 thanks, ordered some special epoxy buffing fluid this week as well. Gonna buff it with a sponge wheel

Datasets for Training AI Robowaifu Technician 04/09/2020 (Thu) 21:36:12 No.2300 [Reply] [Last]
Training AI and robowaifus requires immense amounts of data. It'd be useful to curate books and datasets to feed into our models or possibly build our own corpora to train on. The quality of data is really important. Garbage in is garbage out. The GPT2 pre-trained models for example are riddled with 'Advertisement' after paragraphs. Perhaps we can also discuss and share scripts for cleaning and preparing data here and anything else related to datasets. To start here are some large datasets I've found useful for training chatbots: >The Stanford Question Answering Dataset https://rajpurkar.github.io/SQuAD-explorer/ >Amazon QA http://jmcauley.ucsd.edu/data/amazon/qa/ >WikiText-103 https://blog.einstein.ai/the-wikitext-long-term-dependency-language-modeling-dataset/ >Arxiv Data from 24,000+ papers https://www.kaggle.com/neelshah18/arxivdataset >NIPS papers https://www.kaggle.com/benhamner/nips-papers >Frontiers in Neuroscience Journal Articles https://www.kaggle.com/markoarezina/frontiers-in-neuroscience-articles >Ubuntu Dialogue Corpus https://www.kaggle.com/rtatman/ubuntu-dialogue-corpus >4plebs.org data dump https://archive.org/details/4plebs-org-data-dump-2020-01 >The Movie Dialog Corpus https://www.kaggle.com/Cornell-University/movie-dialog-corpus >Common Crawl https://commoncrawl.org/the-data/
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Even more instruction tuning data, this time with responses generated by GPT-4. A 7B LLaMA model finetuned with this dataset greatly outperforms Alpaca and is competitive with GPT-4 when rated by human evaluators on helpfulness. https://github.com/Instruction-Tuning-with-GPT-4/GPT-4-LLM
>>22240 Wow. This could be a big deal sounds like. Please keep us up to date with your research on it Anon! :^)
Anyone got a good sized and quality dataset for NSFW conversations? I'm gonna use it for the Falcon 40b or 7b, and I haven't found many ERP/NSFW dataset, mostly because I don't know where to look.
>>22923 I have a little bit of NSFW and randomly sampled ERP data but not much, roughly 40 and 8 MB: https://files.catbox.moe/gvc8cw.xz Could look for erotica on GoodReads and download them from z-library and scrape Archive of Our Own and the Bluemoon Roleplaying forums. There's also Elliquiy but you have to go through an approval process to get access.
>>22925 thanks. I'll do some scraping later on. Although I'll need to be careful because there's not much high quality erotic stuff online. Especially on Wattpad and archive of our own

Embedded Programming Group Learning Thread 001 Robowaifu Technician 09/18/2019 (Wed) 03:48:17 No.367 [Reply] [Last]
Embedded Programming Group Learning Thread 001

Greetings robowaifufags.
As promised in the meta thread, this is the first installment in a series of threads where we work together on mastering the basics of embedded programming, starting with a popular, beginner-friendly AVR 8-bit microcontroller, programming it in C on linux.

>why work together on learning and making small projects that build up to the basis of a complete robot control system instead of just posting links to random microcontrollers, popular science robot articles, and coding tutorials and pretending we're helping while cheerleading and hoping others will do something so we don't have to?
Because, dumbass, noone else is going to do it. You know why in emergency response training they teach you to, instead of yelling "somebody call an ambulance!," you should always point to or grab someone and tell that person to do it? Because everyone assumes someone else will do it, and in the end, noone does. Well, I'm talking to YOU now. Yeah, you. Buy about 20 USD worth of hardware and follow the fuck along. We're starting from zero, and I will be aiming this at people with no programming or electronics background.

>I suppose I could get off my ass and learn enough to contribute something. I mean, after all, if all of us work together we can totally build a robowaifu in no time, right?
No, the final goal of these threads is not a completed robowaifu. That's ridiculous. What we will do though, by hands-on tackling many of the problems facing robot development today, is gain practical and useful knowledge of embedding programming as well as a more grounded perspective on things.

>so we're just going to be blinking a bunch of LEDs and shit? lame.
Not quite. We will try to cover everything embedded here: basic I/O, serial communications, servo/motor control, sensor interfacing, analog/digital conversion, pulse-width modulation, timers, interrupts, I2C, SPI, microcontroller-PC interfacing, wireless communications, and more.
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>>22890 >pages are now execute only or no execute. For the uninitiate you could say that this helps keep corrupt (ie, 'hacked') code from executing. So Nagisa, off-topic; but what do you think would be involved in a practical sense of creating a robowaifu system based on OpenBSD? Remember that we have several hard-real-time constraints (though most isn't under this restriction). By this question I mean primarily her onboard systems, not just a home server setup.
>>22891 OpenBSD is the worst OS for real time among the ones I've used, its task scheduler has really bad fairness guarantees and big locks in the kernel can cause most of the kernel's functionality to block while one program uses it. The audio system defaults to 160ms latency and still gets audio drops, on Gentoo Linux I could get ~17-19ms with ALSA and no realtime tweaking. We all have much to gain from portability though. OpenBSD's strong memory protections can catch memory bugs that go unnoticed on every other OS. And while doing that, it's still fast enough that you can actually run your program and test it, you can't use e.g. Valgrind on a typical video game because then it will run at sub-1fps. OpenBSD's pthreads implementation catches destroying mutexes with waiters, mpv has that bug all over, Linux libcs don't do this. This goes for other platforms too, for instance, the diet libc for Linux warns when you use a libc function that makes binaries large, it's good for when you're optimizing binary sizes. I've fixed bugs in programs that I found because I ported the program to MSVC and Microsoft's compiler correctly warned where no other compiler warned.
I'm going to make the flashing leds either tomorrow or the day after tomorrow again.
>>22892 Thanks Anon! Yes that makes sense about realtime. I'm sure we'll figure things out in the end, but r/n it's a big giant puzzle. >We all have much to gain from portability though. Excellent point. It's certainly something to strive for in all our code, to the extent feasible. Certainly during R&D prototyping, I'd say it's a high priority to attempt testing on a wide array of systems. >I ported the program to MSVC and Microsoft's compiler correctly warned where no other compiler warned. They do have a really good debugger system. Ofc some would claim they needed to heh. :^)
>>22895 Please let us know how it goes Anon! :^)

New machine learning AI released Robowaifu Technician 09/15/2019 (Sun) 10:18:46 No.250 [Reply] [Last]
OPEN AI/ GPT-2 This has to be one of the biggest breakthroughs in deep learning and AI so far. It's extremely skilled in developing coherent humanlike responses that make sense and I believe it has massive potential, it also never gives the same answer twice. >GPT-2 generates synthetic text samples in response to the model being primed with an arbitrary input. The model is chameleon-like—it adapts to the style and content of the conditioning text. This allows the user to generate realistic and coherent continuations about a topic of their choosing >GPT-2 displays a broad set of capabilities, including the ability to generate conditional synthetic text samples of unprecedented quality, where we prime the model with an input and have it generate a lengthy continuation. In addition, GPT-2 outperforms other language models trained on specific domains (like Wikipedia, news, or books) without needing to use these domain-specific training datasets. Also the current public model shown here only uses 345 million parameters, the "full" AI (which has over 4x as many parameters) is being witheld from the public because of it's "Potential for abuse". That is to say the full model is so proficient in mimicking human communication that it could be abused to create new articles, posts, advertisements, even books; and nobody would be be able to tell that there was a bot behind it all. <AI demo: talktotransformer.com/ <Other Links: github.com/openai/gpt-2 openai.com/blog/better-language-models/ huggingface.co/

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>>22847 >japanese Love plus game on Nintendo 3ds. Have to look into that. >possible with the transformer LLMs we have now. They have no agency or anything. One problem is that many people are trying the same thing. It's necessary to build a chatbot or rather a cognitive architecture around an LLM. The bigger the requirements are, the more difficult would it be. This will require taking code as modules from other projects, since working together doesn't really work. >such an app should be small and efficient enough to run on a phone. The really doesn't make things easier. Sorry but no, it will need to run at a server at home.
>>22849 >One problem is that many people are trying the same thing. It's necessary to build a chatbot or rather a cognitive architecture around an LLM. The bigger the requirements are, the more difficult would it be. This will require taking code as modules from other projects, since working together doesn't really work. The first step ofc would be an outline of the code but unfortunately I don't even know what are the things required. I guess we can use an LLM just for the conversations part, but need other NNs for the rest of the authentic experience. The biggest problem as always, is memory. Esepcially since this AI is supposed to remember important dates. >The really doesn't make things easier. Sorry but no, it will need to run at a server at home. yeah its pretty unrealistic. I forgot we could just run a home server. Incase some people rent one of the big cloud service providers, it'd be smart to have a backup of the memory, definitions and conversations, so your entire gf doesn't get wiped out. Guess, I'm getting way ahead of myself. Should just learn to code first and wait a few years till the tech catches up.
>>22859 >unfortunately I don't even know what are the things required I made a posting in the Stop Lurking Thread asking people to think about this >>22488 - Maybe I should have explained it better, and started with it. In a way I did partially in the requirements level list: >>9555 >>The biggest problem as always, is memory. Esepcially since this AI is supposed to remember important dates. That's the simplest of all problems. More complex memory isn't. Dave Shapiro's Raven Project is very much addressing it, though. >>it'd be smart to have a backup of the memory We need that in any way. Encrypted data on Blu-ray and more recent on HDDs. >>and wait a few years till the tech catches up. Learning basic coding doesn't need much time. I'm trying to recruit people the whole time, trying to do something. Do you need very specific instructions to do anything?
>>22865 >That's the simplest of all problems. More complex memory isn't. Dave Shapiro's Raven Project is very much addressing it, though. Its still brand new, I guess I'll wait and see how it pans out. >Learning basic coding doesn't need much time. I'm trying to recruit people the whole time, trying to do something. Do you need very specific instructions to do anything? I've never coded something very complex yet so I'm not confident in my abilities. I think I should just pick one project an get started, however slow it might be.
>>22868 >think I should just pick one project an get started, however slow it might be. Think about what you want from an early AI girlfriend work on it. Look into what's available and if it's good enough or needs something attached to it: Oobabooga, Raven, scripted and fast responses from an AIML chat system, vector databases, traditional NLP/NLU, connecting LLM with other software like a task planer (Langchain maybe), ...

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Robowaifus in Media: Thread 02 Robowaifus in Media: Thread 02 01/14/2023 (Sat) 23:49:54 No.18711 [Reply] [Last]
Post about whatever media predominately features at least one fembot aka gynoid (female form of an android) as an important character, ideally a robowaifu or synthetic girlfriend. Some freedom with the topic is allowed, virtual waifus or bodiless AI might also qualify if she is female. Negative framing of the whole topic should be mentioned with negative sentiment. Cyborgs with a human brain or uploads of women don't really fit in, but if she's very nice (Alita) and maybe not a human based cyborg (catborg/netoborg) we can let it slide. Magical dolls have also been included in the past, especially when the guy had to hand-made them. Look through the old thread, it's worth it: >>82 - Picrel shows some of the more well know shows from a few years ago. I made a long list with links to more info's on most known anime shows about fembots/robowaifus, without hentai but including some ecchi and posted it here in the old thread: >>7008 - It also features some live-action shows and movies. I repost the updated list here, not claiming that it is complete, especially when it comes to live action and shows/movies we don't really like. >In some cases I can only assume that the show includes robogirls, since the show is about various robots, but I haven't seen it yet. A.D. Police Files: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/ad-police-files Andromeda Stories: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/andromeda-stories Angelic Layer: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/angelic-layer Armitage III: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/armitage-iii Azusa will help: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/azusa-will-help Blade Runner 2022: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/blade-runner-black-out-2022 Busou Shinki: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/busou-shinki-moon-angel Butobi CPU: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/buttobi-cpu Casshern Sins: https://www.anime-lanet.com/anime/casshern-sins Chobits: https://www.anime-planet.com/anime/chobits

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>>22069 I've never been a fan of the film media. I don't like to sit and passively consume media, with the exception of some films like LOTR. The only reason I've watched anime was because it was a new media to me. But now that the novelty's wore off, its the same as any other film. I prefer media where I'm actively engaged like reading books or playing video games.
>>21593 Thanks for that recomendation, I would also like to share this work Ushinawareta Mirai wo Motomete, this was the one that gave me the idea of ​​developing, creating and having a robowaifu by my side before even knowing such an end, surprisingly it is rarely mentioned
>>22810 >this was the one that gave me the idea of ​​developing, creating and having a robowaifu by my side before even knowing such an end How does the robowaifu angle come in for you, Anon?
>>22823 Do you mean how did the idea come about? If so, then I can tell you that after watching the anime and seeing in the last chapter the protagonist's motivation that in some future he may end up creating his robowaifu. I thought I could do something similar, although at the time it was a minor idea. But as time passed and after seeing her again, I ended up turning that idea into a motivation. Creating a robowaifu or at least trying to, give me excitement, maybe it will help me make my life a little better or maybe it will end up disappointing me but I would like to see if I can be with my rowaifu like in the anime, after looking for info I found this place
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This might be a little bit of a stretch, but it only recently occurred to me that Mega Man Legends 2 is basically a story about how a guy with eternal youth lived in a paradise for thousands of years with robots tending to all his needs like a God, but eventually got so bored of it that he decided to upload his consciousness/die and his robowaifu tries to get revenge on the robot that allowed him to do it and/or get him to kill her too.

HOW TO SOLVE IT Robowaifu Technician 07/08/2020 (Wed) 06:50:51 No.4143 [Reply] [Last]
How do we eat this elephant, /robowaifu/? This is a yuge task obviously, but OTOH, we all know it's inevitable there will be robowaifus. It's simply a matter of time. For us (and for every other Anon) the only question is will we create them ourselves, or will we have to take what we're handed out by the GlobohomoBotnet(TM)(R)(C)? In the interest of us achieving the former I'll present this checklist from George Pólya. Hopefully it can help us begin to break down the problem into bite-sized chunks and make forward progress. >--- First. UNDERSTANDING THE PROBLEM You have to understand the problem. >What is the unknown? What are the data? What is the condition? Is it possible to satisfy the condition? Is the condition sufficient to determine the unknown? Or is it insufficient? Or redundant? Or contradictory? >Draw a figure. Introduce suitable notation. >Separate the various parts of the condition. Can you write them down? Second.

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>>22480 Nice Noidodev, thanks! Good luck with your concept designs Anon! :^)
>>22493 Good luck Meta Ronin, I wish for your team's good success! Cool pic BTW. :^)
AI and tools as your Second Brain, helping organization, searching, overview, understanding papers (Matt Wolfe): https://youtu.be/3u80Zuwf2Zo StatQuest Made a map about learning everything around machine learning: https://www.reddit.com/r/statistics/comments/wfwl9c/e_statquest_released_a_free_map_of_his_videos/ Mindmaps about relationships by ChatGPT: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/13cld5l/created_using_chatgpt/
>>9555 More like 3-5 sex positions. Waifu v1 should be a mechanical sex doll. The wright brothers didn't make a jumbo jet you know.
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>>22827 Different guys might have different priorities. Think about different areas, and then sort how hard it might be to get there. Then these are options. Depth or height is the (assumed) difficulty to develop and implement for each option, but width is all the options in different areas (skills) to choose from. I somewhat agree with you, a early gynoid would only need to be able to move into different positions. That said, we try to not call them sexbots, since this exaggerats this point too much. Even owners of such dolls often rather call them lovedolls. In case of a gynoid, she would at least somewhat hear and speak some sentences. So there would be some emotional bonding involved for some guys. The term sexdoll also implies a sex toy which would be hidden away, while a synthetic girlfriend would of course sit on the couch and be shown to at least some visitors. Also being used for some AI conversations.

Bipedal Robot Locomotion General Robowaifu Technician 09/15/2019 (Sun) 05:57:42 No.237 [Reply] [Last]
We need to talk about bipedal locomotion. It's a complicated topic but one that has to be solved if we are ever to have satisfyingly believable robowaifus. There has surely already been a lot of research done on this topic, and we need to start digging and find the info that's out there. There are some projects that have at least partial robolegs solutions working, but none that I know of that look very realistic yet. We likely won't come up with some master-stroke of genius and solve everyone's problems here on /robowaifu/, but we should at least take a whack at it who knows? We certainly can't accomplish anything if we don't try.

I personally believe we should be keeping the weight out of the extremities – including the legs – while other anons think that we should add weight to the feet for balance. What's you're ideas anon? How do we control the gait? How do we adjust for different conditions? What if our robowaifu is carrying things? What about the legs during sex? Should we focus on the maths behind MIP (Mobile Inverted Pendulum), or is there a different approach that would be more straightforward? A mixture? Maybe we can even do weird stuff like reverse-knee legs that so many animals have. Robofaun waifu anyone? What about having something like heelys or bigger wheels in the feet as well?

I'm pretty sure if we just put our heads together and don't stop trying, we'll eventually arrive at least one good general solution to the problem of creating bipedal robot legs.

>tl;dr
ITT post good robowaifu legs

>tech diagrams sauce
www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgaEE27nsQw
www.goatstream.com/research/papers/SA2013/SA2013.pdf
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>>22814 I just asked bard to arrange it Here is the list of the items from easiest to hardest to do: Robot skin Robot hands Robot arms Robot legs Robot head Robot balance Robot mouth Walking Robot skin is the easiest to do because it is simply a covering for the robot's body. Robot hands are also relatively easy to do, as they can be made from a variety of materials and can be designed to perform a variety of tasks. Robot arms are also relatively easy to do, as they can be made from a variety of materials and can be designed to reach and grasp objects. Robot legs are also relatively easy to do, as they can be made from a variety of materials and can be designed to walk and run. Robot head is more difficult to do than the other items on the list, as it needs to be able to perform a variety of tasks, such as seeing, hearing, and speaking. Robot balance is also more difficult to do than the other items on the list, as it needs to be able to keep the robot upright and stable. Robot mouth is also more difficult to do than the other items on the list, as it needs to be able to perform a variety of tasks, such as eating, drinking, and speaking. Walking is the most difficult item on the list, as it requires the robot to be able to coordinate its movements in order to move forward.

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>>22819 lol I just reread that eating and drinking wtf
>>22820 okay got a completely different answer from chatgpt Arranging these tasks from easiest to hardest: 1. Robot skin: Adding a protective or decorative covering to the robot's body is relatively straightforward and doesn't involve complex mechanics or functionality. 2. Robot mouth: Constructing a robot mouth to mimic basic movements, such as opening and closing, can be achieved through simple mechanisms like servos or pneumatic actuators. 3. Robot hands: Designing and building robot hands that can perform basic grasping and manipulation tasks requires more complexity and precision, but it's a well-explored area in robotics. 4. Robot arms: Developing robot arms involves creating articulated structures with joints and implementing motorized actuators for movement. It requires a higher level of mechanical design and control. 5. Robot legs: Designing and implementing robot legs for walking or locomotion involves complex mechanisms for stability, balance, and coordinated movement. It requires advanced control algorithms and sensor integration. 6. Robot head: Building a robot head involves integrating various components like cameras, sensors, actuators for facial expressions, and potentially speech synthesis capabilities. It requires mechanical design, electronics, and programming skills.

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>>22821 one last thing we really should give that anon that made the robot head some props considering its so up there. Hope he didn't leave.
>>22808 Thanks, but we have a whole thread with making overviews, planning, diagrams, and subtthread does something quite similar what you're doing here: >>9554 - breaking down the development into smaller steps. Also, please consider the LLMs are likely not better than his board in knowing things in regards to robowaifus, since sadly we're somewhat the experts on this. On top of that, they're libtard censorship challenged, which means they might not know a robowaifu is supposed to be something like woman, what a good looking women is supposed to look like, and so on.

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